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David J

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Mar 28, 2002, 11:41:18 AM3/28/02
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Could anyone reccomend a good emulator to connect windows based pcs to a D3
server.

Thanks in advance

David J


Michael Blake

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Mar 28, 2002, 12:44:21 PM3/28/02
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AccuTerm at www.asent.com

HTH
Michael


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mike ryder

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Mar 28, 2002, 6:17:56 PM3/28/02
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www.anzio.com

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sdavmor

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Mar 28, 2002, 8:15:44 PM3/28/02
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I 2nd the Anzio recommendation. It does secure shell as well as telnet. A
lot of product for small $$$. If I didn't need a pick-centric Windows
terminal emulator, Anzio would be the one I'd go for.
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John Winward

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HostAccess 7.20g is the BEST Telnet product around. I have tried
AccuTerm , W-Integrate and they come nowhere near the ease of use and
functoinality of HostAccess. The company used to be called Pixel
Innovations (www.pixel-group.com) but have now been taken over by
Quovadx Ltd (www.quovadx.com).

HostAccess costs £299.00 in the UK for the network version. However,
you can purchase it as a "Competetitve Upgrade", for £90.00. Therefore
I only ever order "competitve upgrades" as you can get any FREE Telnet
product off the WEB and use that as your qualifying product.

John

sdavmor

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Mar 29, 2002, 3:47:04 AM3/29/02
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Does it support secure shell? If not, it's useless to me.

John Winward

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Mar 29, 2002, 12:11:41 PM3/29/02
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PASS,

Pixel / Quovadx have many versions of HostAccess (Think Client,
Gateway etc) so it would be best to simply ask them. I do not use the
features, if they are there, as they are not required for my
application. I would finfd it strange NOT to see Secure Shell
implemented as they offer many Intranet / Internet integration links.

John

sdavmor

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Mar 29, 2002, 1:25:45 PM3/29/02
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Thanks, John. I'll contact Pixel for more info. The competitive upgrade
pricing makes it _very_ attractive to me if a network version with secure
shell can be had in that price range. My main clients are Dry Cleaners, and
they are notoriously price sensitive...okay as a group they're annoyingly
cheap! Any real savings to them without loss of functionality or security
would be a plus, since it would one less thing for them to whine at me about
<laughs>.

Ryengoth

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:56:53 PM3/29/02
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:41:18 +0000 (UTC), "David J"
<whart...@btinternet.com> scribbled on the wall:

Accuterm has been an exact replica to a real Wyse60 screen
AND keyboard. The others do well for screen, but the
function key strings and such aren't exactly the same as the
real terminal. I know this for a fact, I've tested quite a
few myself. If all you need is screen emulation and regular
alpha-numeric keys, any of the emulators on the market
support Wyse 60. But, if you want a *true* Wyse60 terminal
emulator, get Accuterm. Look at the name of the product. A
lot of detail has been put into correctly emulating the real
hardware. That's why they don't support tons of emu types,
just the popular ones.

We operate exclusively on Wyse60 graphics and
normal+extended keys. No product except Accuterm has been
able to work with our software properly. I haven't tested
any emulators in the last 12 months, so someone may have a
comperable product now. Drop me a note in e-mail if you
think the product you use can beat or match Accuterm97. I'll
download it and test it on our software.

Glen
http://www.picksource.com

Barry

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Mar 29, 2002, 7:25:25 PM3/29/02
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Hi,

If price is a consideration, have a look at netterm. I have been using it
for
some time and works very well, has SSH and a lot of other goodies.
For a plain but fully functional emulator it is hard to beat (and the price
is right)

http://securenetterm.com/

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John Winward

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I have used NETTERM before and I also believe it to be very good. In
Price terms, not much can beat it. However, I perform tasks such as
switching between 80 & 132 column display, but this does not operate
correctly on NETTERM as the WINDOW keeps shifting SIZE and POSITION.
You never have this problem in HOSTACCESS, and whilst ordering via a
"competitve upgrade", you get far more facilities (integration to
Windows products).

John

John Winward

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Mar 30, 2002, 3:32:40 AM3/30/02
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OK,

One other thing to remember, on HostAccess 7.2 (not Thin Client or
Desktop) you get D3 integration programs to enable HostAcess to pass
data to Windows. Therefore you can perform TCL commands and PASS data
directly into EXCEL, LOTUS, WORD etc. They also have "host" programs
which are subroutines and you can perform the same tasks inside your
program simply by calling them.

John

CWNoah2

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Mar 30, 2002, 6:07:00 AM3/30/02
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Barry,

For the most part, netterm works for us (Jbase on AIX). However, we cannot get
line graphics to display no matter what we do (lines, corners, tees, etc.). We
cannot write to the top bar of the netterm window from the host. We cannot
program the function keys from the host. And video attributes as colors are
rather strange, and difficult to control (all xterm emulation). Come to think
of it, after reading this, it doesn't do the things we need very well after
all. Their customer support was rather rude and suggested that everyone else
could do the things I was trying to do, and if I couldn't, I was an idiot. :^(

Regards,
Charlie Noah

"Barry" <bgr...@bigpond.net.au> writes:

>
>Hi,
>
>If price is a consideration, have a look at netterm. I have been using it for
>some time and works very well, has SSH and a lot of other goodies.
>For a plain but fully functional emulator it is hard to beat (and the price
>is right)
>
>http://securenetterm.com/

Charlie Noah (CWN...@aol.com)

Bill H

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> For the most part, netterm works for us (Jbase on AIX)...

[snip]

> Their customer support was rather rude and suggested that everyone else
> could do the things I was trying to do, and if I couldn't, I was an idiot.
:^(
>
> Regards,
> Charlie Noah

Welcome to the club. :-)

Bill


Nikolai Lukin

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Apr 1, 2002, 4:57:11 AM4/1/02
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I'd like to support your Anzio recommendation, Steven.

For lower-end not-much-Pick-centric customers it's the best, especially from
the angle of supporting different code pages on the host, client and local
printer. Anzio's capability to differentiate useful data from ESC-sequences
in "smart" manner seems very useful too. Wy60 emulation works fine, but IMO
SCOANSI is better due to its color support and Linux console compatibility.

For high-end users SBClient is the best choice here.

Nick

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sdavmor

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Apr 1, 2002, 2:41:13 AM4/1/02
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Nick,

nice to see you here. Are you back working with MV dbms' or are you just
cruising through? Concur on the SCOANSI for Anzio. It's excellent.

BTW, I really like the "Arsenal" CDs you gave me.


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Paul Stanley

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Apr 3, 2002, 5:27:24 AM4/3/02
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David

We use NetTerm for the majority of users and wIntegrate for the "power"
users, where we need interaction between D3 and the desktop.

wIntegrate is very nice (so many features and good scripting, host
subroutines, configurable colour emulations, web browser integration) but
it's still too expensive to put on every desktop as standard.

Paul Stanley


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Victor Marneweck

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Apr 10, 2002, 12:07:58 AM4/10/02
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I concur on both, I currently use wIntegrate because of the other features,
but for plain dumb green screen, Anzio is great. One blue though, Anzio's
graphics is not crash-hot (line drawings) in Wyse format. I have had to use
| - and + to achieve the boxes etc I use, but from a cost of ownership
perspective, Anzio is functional and works in serial and telnet. I would
also like to see it branch out to SSH as well.

Victor Marneweck

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mike ryder

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Apr 12, 2002, 7:03:34 PM4/12/02
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Victor,

To get the line drawing graphics to work, you have to use a font that
supports this character set and is fixed spacing. Lucida Console works
nicely - but you may need a later version - I'm on 12.3

hth

Mike

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Anthony W. Youngman

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Apr 16, 2002, 6:39:23 PM4/16/02
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In article <3ca4c416....@www.picksource.com>, Ryengoth <spamless-
ryen...@ec.rr.com> writes

>On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:41:18 +0000 (UTC), "David J"
><whart...@btinternet.com> scribbled on the wall:
>
> Accuterm has been an exact replica to a real Wyse60 screen
>AND keyboard. The others do well for screen, but the
>function key strings and such aren't exactly the same as the
>real terminal. I know this for a fact, I've tested quite a
>few myself. If all you need is screen emulation and regular
>alpha-numeric keys, any of the emulators on the market
>support Wyse 60. But, if you want a *true* Wyse60 terminal
>emulator, get Accuterm. Look at the name of the product. A
>lot of detail has been put into correctly emulating the real
>hardware. That's why they don't support tons of emu types,
>just the popular ones.
>
I have to butt in here and shout for wIntegrate. Expensive,
unfortunately, but it's programmable on the emulator side as well. When
we bought it, the pt250 support was laughable, but with a bit of effort
I updated the definition file. The result is a very good pt250 emulation
now - so good it works fine with WordPerfect/SCO. I've even got the
basic graphics working fine, and presume I could achieve more should I
so choose.

The only real problem I've had (with any and ALL emulators) is that they
get confused if fed one escape sequence while trying to decode another
sequence. Because the DEC "answerback" code is char(5), which screws up
my wIntegrate setup, I've defined answerback as ESC:char(5). Works fine
in wIntegrate, and with a real Wyse in vt100 emulation, but screws up a
Wyse winterm (which uses Pericom terminal emulation, as far as I can
make out - that takes me back ... :-)

Cheers,
Wol
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