User friendly Pick Basic Editor?
Wendy Liang
Hi, all Pick Basic Experts:
Is there anybody know any user friendly Pick Basic Editor out there? I
used to work on Visual Basic / Borland C++ type program editor where you
can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
Thank you very much for your respond.
Wendy
RH720
I'm so used to the line editor that I have actually grown to like it. But if
you are using AP or D3, you might try the "update processor." In addition to
its many other highly touted (overrated ?) benefits, it does work pretty well
as a full screen editor.
If you are working on a UNIX or NT platform, you can always export the source
code, use the word processor of your choice, and then import it back. I
suppose you could do the same with a DOS/WINDOWS PC using terminal emulation
software. If you are using a dumb terminal on a native platform, then I
suppose you are stuck with the update processor.
I'll stick with the line editor though.
Robert Herbin
>Subject: User friendly Pick Basic Editor?
>From: "Wendy Liang" <fang...@flash.net>
>Date: Tue, Jun 2, 1998 16:13 EDT
>Message-id: <01bd8e73$d5375b40$120000c0@e28p1>
Steve
I would also be interested in a Pick Basic Editor that will run in
NT/Universe
environment. The Line Editor is driving me crazy. We are migrating from
a Mainframe enviroment where we use a full screen editor for programming.
Thanks,
Steve Moore
smo...@amerex-fire.com
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Mark Flint
I know what you mean. I too came from the land of full screen editors, and
was shocked and amazed at how many cling to the 70s. In any case, if you
can FTP fairly easily to your PC, you might want to look at MultiEdit by
American Cybernetics. I've used the DOS, Win 3.1, and now the Win 95
versions with great success. See their web site at http://www.amcyber.com/
for more details and special web prices. It is very customizable and easily
adapted to InfoBASIC.
Steve Van Dine
Aren't there any real programmers in the world anymore? Write your own.
:-)
Steve <tb...@usit.net> wrote in article <6l1tqk$pq3$1...@news.usit.net>...
> I would also be interested in a Pick Basic Editor that will run in
> NT/Universe
> environment. The Line Editor is driving me crazy. We are migrating
from
> a Mainframe enviroment where we use a full screen editor for programming.
> Thanks,
> Steve Moore
> smo...@amerex-fire.com
>
>
> Wendy Liang wrote in message <01bd8e73$d5375b40$120000c0@e28p1>...
> >
> >Hi, all Pick Basic Experts:
> >
> >Is there anybody know any user friendly Pick Basic Editor out there? I
> >used to work on Visual Basic / Borland C++ type program editor where you
> >can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
> >
> >Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
> >
Luke Webber
"Steve Van Dine" <svd...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>Aren't there any real programmers in the world anymore? Write your own.
>:-)
Yeah! In PROC.
As an aside, it's probably all a matter of what you're used to. I'd go
crazy trying to write VB or Delphi with anything other than a
full-featured IDE. I'd go spare if I had to write C with a line editor.
Yet I have real trouble writing Pick BASIC with anything other than the
dumb old Pick line editor. I must be getting old, but I automatically know
to set my tabs correctly and all of the other necessary things, the bugger
doesn't try to second-guess me and do smart tabs (that drives me nuts).
There's a lot to recommend it as long as you're used to it.
Then again. for real programmers, there's nothing better than toggle
switches on a BIG front panel. <g>
--
Luke Webber
* Note: The opinions expressed by Luke Webber are in no way supported *
* by his employers, Luke Webber Consulting Services *
Brian Bergquist
I have a full-screen editor that runs in universe and AP/Dos. If you
let me know
how your system is set up, I might be able to help.
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Wendy Liang <fang...@flash.net> wrote in article
Simon Carter
Wendy Liang wrote in message <01bd8e73$d5375b40$120000c0@e28p1>...
>
>Hi, all Pick Basic Experts:
>
>Is there anybody know any user friendly Pick Basic Editor out there? I
>used to work on Visual Basic / Borland C++ type program editor where you
>can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
>
>Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
>
>Thank you very much for your respond.
>
>Wendy
If Jet's still available, I can strongly recommend it. Used to be part of
TermiTe for Windows I think, perhaps someone out there knows what became of
Jet???
kib...@finnegan.com
I use an NFS link to the host (an HP-UX machine). This allows me to edit
with Codewright on the PC. ED is OK for quick changes, but a full screen
editor is a great help to me.
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Altsys1
Sure I have a one that I wrote that's full screen.
Also have a stacker that works like DOSKEY but with alot of added features.
They work best in Addsviewpoint enhanced mode.
weidler
Wendy Liang wrote:
>
> Hi, all Pick Basic Experts:
>
> Is there anybody know any user friendly Pick Basic Editor out there? I
> used to work on Visual Basic / Borland C++ type program editor where you
> can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
>
> Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
>
> Thank you very much for your respond.
>
> Wendy
Wendy,
A couple of options. You could use a Pick based word processor for
editing (KeyWord for Pick or WordMark for Ardent) and have quite a bit
of functionality or use Weaver Consulting programmer editors.
Jeff Weidler, WordMark Liberty
Morph
If you're using PC/OS or Mentor, then there's always DocuMentor, or DE,
which is a vi like (without the ugly bits :) screen editor.
Pete
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weidler
Simon Carter wrote:
>
> Wendy Liang wrote in message <01bd8e73$d5375b40$120000c0@e28p1>...
> >
> >
> >can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
> >
> >Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
> >
> >Thank you very much for your respond.
> >
> >Wendy
>
> TermiTe for Windows I think, perhaps someone out there knows what became of
> Jet???
Jet was silently acquired by VMark about 4 years ago and no future
enhancements were given to the grounded bird. In fact, now there is Jet
Lag as it is not available for competing Ardent platforms such as D3/NT
or mvBASE or mvENTERPRISE. You might consider KeyWord which has a Jet
to KeyWord document conversion utility built-in and has been ported to
all the latest and greatest platforms.
Jeff Weidler, WordMark Liberty
S. Davies-Morris
If you're running Wintegrate as desktop piece of middleware, you could
use WINED (written by Charlie Rubeor and myself). WINED is a BASIC
program that uses Wintegrate API calls to package any item on your
MV DBMS side (code, JCL, dict or data), ship it to Windows, and use
DDL to start up the desktop editor of your choice. When done you
close the Windows app and OK/NOT OK sending the item back to the
host. The current v1.9 version has been tested with AP/D3, UV (NT
and Unix), UDT (NT, Unix and VMS). For other MV hosts, some minor
tweaking might be required, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work
properly with any other MV host. Email me if you'd like a copy.
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Richard Ginsburg
Wendy,
I've tried JET-EDIT several times and found it to be a step backward from
the line editor, our old friend ED. As many have suggested an export to the
windows environment will probably be the best solution if that is the
environment you feel to be the most user-friendly. For my 'druthers', after
19 years of using ED it's become 'user-friendly' to me...
If you are using a version of Pick that has the update processor, don't
waste your time. However using ctrl-D and these 3 md items you will find ED
a bit easier to use: MD E
001 PQ
002 HED FILENAME (what ever you call your Program file)
003 A(3,90)
MD B
001 PQ
002 HBASIC FILENAME
003 A(3,90)
MD C
001 PQ
002 HCATALOG FILENAME
003 A(3,90)
Example: :E TEST <enter>
top
.
001 CLEAR
.FI
'TEST' filed.
:<ctrl-D>
:E TEST
:B TEST <enter>
TEST
.
[241] Successful compile! 1 frame(s) used.
:<ctrl-D>
:B TEST
:C TEST <enter>
Just a few keystrokes to edit, compile, and catalog.
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Wendy Liang <fang...@flash.net> wrote in article
Lee Meng Hong
>Wendy Liang wrote in message <01bd8e73$d5375b40$120000c0@e28p1>...
>>
>
>If Jet's still available, I can strongly recommend it. Used to be part of
Is Jet is availabel when we install Universe.. , And it function is
almost the same with VI editor in Unix..
>TermiTe for Windows I think, perhaps someone out there knows what became of
I also use Termite now and it work great with wyse50 emulation
>Jet???
>
>
Homer Hazel
If you are using any flavor of Pick that supports Doug's PicLan software,
there an editor called PickED that I found somewhere on the internet that
works quite well. It uses the PicLan API to read the data from the Pick
file, then uses full screen editing under Win95. It lets you have four
documents in memory at one time. It has crash protection and saves your
data to Win95 to protect against a crash. It does great cut and paste
between any Windows applications, not only itself. I really like it.
It's not quite perfect. If it was perfect, it would do the following:
1. Allow me to compare the files from two of the windows. Anybody ever use
the Norton NE editor?
2. It would allow me to set indent levels and it would structure indents
properly when it read it from the Pick computer.
3. It would allow me to change to overstrike mode. Maybe I'm stupid, but I
cannot figure out how to make it do anything but "INSERT" characters. This
isn't so terribly bad, but it's inconvenient.
Unfortunately, it does not check syntax directly, or compile, and I'm not
sure it should. It does allow you to do a save and compile - (another
feature I cannot figure out how to work)
Other than these few comments, I really like the editor.
Larry Hazel
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joe igo
> Wendy Liang wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all Pick Basic Experts:
> >
> > Is there anybody know any user friendly Pick Basic Editor out there? I
> > used to work on Visual Basic / Borland C++ type program editor where
you
> > can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
> >
> > Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
> >
> > Thank you very much for your respond.
> >
> > Wendy
>
There is a full screen aditor available from STRATEGY7 - way better that
the JET editor
Joe
David Zigray
> >
> >Is there anybody know any user friendly Pick Basic Editor out there?
> I
> >used to work on Visual Basic / Borland C++ type program editor where
> you
> >can change, cut and paste, and compile the program within the editor.
> >
> >Line editor is really driving me crazy..............h...e...l...p...
> >
> >Thank you very much for your respond.
> >
> >Wendy
> >
if you are running with AP or D3, then "Bridge2Win" GUI terminal
emulator provides a phenominal editor interface surprising using the
update-processor. if you are familiar with 'update', you will have many
thoughts coming to mind when the noun is spoken -- however, OUR software
not only makes it work like a Windows editor (mouse, keyboard,
refreshing, cut/paste) -- BUT GOES ONE BIG STEP FURTHER for editing
Pick/BASIC code: we do full colorized syntax editing, on-the-fly. see
"http://www.dimensional.com/~zigray" for a sample.
KeyGroup4
David Zigray wrote:
>if you are running with AP or D3, then "Bridge2Win" GUI terminal
>emulator provides a phenominal editor interface surprising using the
>update-processor. if you are familiar with 'update', you will have many
>thoughts coming to mind when the noun is spoken -- however, OUR software
>not only makes it work like a Windows editor (mouse, keyboard,
>refreshing, cut/paste) -- BUT GOES ONE BIG STEP FURTHER for editing
>Pick/BASIC code: we do full colorized syntax editing, on-the-fly. see
>"http://www.dimensional.com/~zigray" for a sample.
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I use the Bridge2 Win terminal emulator as David describes on a daily basis.
The best 2 features are the page size of 99 by 42, and the color coding of the
program code. The other features are great too, but being able to see 42 lines
of code rather than 23, and to spot variables, labels, quotes, and syntax
errors based on color are pure... efficiency.
David, I would be very happy to be used as a reference.
Jeffrey Kaufman
Key Data Systems Group
key...@keydat.com
Jeffrey Kaufman
Key Data Systems Group
www.keydat.com