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Going to Open World in San Francisco? Come two day early and get no charge DB2 tech training with certification testing
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crus...@us.ibm.com
Jun 14, 2012, 12:46:48 PM6/14/12
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In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
Agenda and registration: www.ibm.com/db2workshop. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
Agenda and registration: www.ibm.com/db2workshop. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
joel garry
Jun 14, 2012, 3:50:23 PM6/14/12
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On Jun 14, 9:46 am, cruss...@us.ibm.com wrote:
> In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
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> This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
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> Agenda and registration:www.ibm.com/db2bullshit. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
> In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
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> This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
>
This is a commercial message and so doesn't belong here, belongs in
comp.databases.oracle.marketplace instead. Please delete from
comp.databases.oracle.server.
Interesting marketing attack vector though. Is there _one_ good
technical reason you can give me to go to such a thing? I see "big
data" and I think "marketing bullshit."
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Noons
Jun 15, 2012, 1:43:34 AM6/15/12
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joel garry wrote,on my timestamp of 15/06/2012 5:50 AM:
> Interesting marketing attack vector though. Is there _one_ good
> technical reason you can give me to go to such a thing? I see "big
> data" and I think "marketing bullshit."
*there* is your technical reason! "MB" is always applicable.
> Interesting marketing attack vector though. Is there _one_ good
> technical reason you can give me to go to such a thing? I see "big
> data" and I think "marketing bullshit."
If not, there is always the dba1.0 crap to fall back on...
Mladen Gogala
Jun 15, 2012, 10:41:05 AM6/15/12
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crus...@us.ibm.com
Sep 19, 2012, 11:14:50 AM9/19/12
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And Big Data is not a bunch of "bullshit" as someone alluded to in this stream. IBM has a bunch of products that help people do more with their data. Take a look: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/bigdata. And yes, the site does have a professional look done by the marketing people but the products are real. DB2 plays a role in the solutions. My point is that it doesn't hurt to know more about industry solutions.
joel garry
Sep 19, 2012, 11:55:41 AM9/19/12
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On Sep 19, 8:14 am, cruss...@us.ibm.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:46:48 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> > In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
>
> > This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
>
> > Agenda and registration:www.ibm.com/db2workshop. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
>
> Well I felt that this post was really relevant. We have run a number of these workshops worldwide and people come out of them pleased with what they learn -- especially because the course
Just because _you_ felt it was relevant just means _you_ are incapable
> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:46:48 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> > In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
>
> > This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
>
> > Agenda and registration:www.ibm.com/db2workshop. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
>
> Well I felt that this post was really relevant. We have run a number of these workshops worldwide and people come out of them pleased with what they learn -- especially because the course
of reading and understanding a group charter. The
comp.databases.oracle.* hierarchy has a charter, which you could
easily find by googling, say:
comp.databases.oracle.server charter
What you might be able to glean from that is cdos (that's the
abreviation style that is common on usenet, it stands for
comp.databases.oracle.server, the group where you have now posted
twice in violation of the charter) is a technical group, and only
technical postings are allowed here. That doesn't mean your post is
not allowed, or even not encouraged: it simply means that commercial
postings go in comp.databases.oracle.marketplace, not here. It
doesn't matter if they are interesting, or point at an interesting
website. Now, one might think there is argument on where to draw the
line here, and there have been. So you are also expected to have
followed the group and observed the zeitgeist. Personally, I would
lean towards allowing posts such as yours, because I'm a liberal. But
this has been gone over again and again, the potential for abuse is
(and the potential realized has been) so high, that posts like yours
are clearly for cdom. It doesn't matter if it is free as in beer.
> is tailored to existing professional database knowledge -- so it doesn't teach what you already know but rather teaches what is different. People coming out of the workshop understand DB2 in a much deeper way and really appreciate the skills and knowledge of the instructors who teach this technical workshop. The no charge certification testing opportunity helps people validate their skill set -- and increases flexibility when it comes to looking for a new job. In any case I will put it over in marketplace.
anticipated antipathy posting about a competitor in the group? Surely
no one needs Captain Obvious to think it is a provocative gesture to
advertise such a class at OOW? So I can only conclude that you and
your company are assholes on purpose. I can appreciate that in an
underdog.
>
> And Big Data is not a bunch of "bullshit" as someone alluded to in this stream. IBM has a bunch of products that help people do more with their data. Take a look:http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/bigdata. And yes, the site does have a professional look done by the marketing people but the products are real. DB2 plays a role in the solutions. My point is that it doesn't hurt to know more about industry solutions.
good technical reason why I should. Here's some hints: I work with
ERP and MRP enterprise software. I work for people who have long been
upset with Oracle. So if your market isn't bullshit for my situation,
give me one good reason. Otherwise, all I can do is conclude you are
indeed, just a spammer. Time wasting marketeering does hurt. There
are also people here (not me so much) who see "certification testing"
as a negative marker.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/sep/18/prolific-disabled-access-lawyer-be-disbarred/
crus...@us.ibm.com
Sep 19, 2012, 12:02:59 PM9/19/12
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John Hurley
Sep 20, 2012, 9:38:03 AM9/20/12
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cruss:
# Well I felt that this post was really relevant.
I for a sample size of one also feel that this post is relevant.
Subject line states clearly what the value proposition is.
As someone who in a former life spent a whole bunch of years doing IMS
and then later some DB2 database admin ... and many of us here in cdos
land may have similar experiences ... seems quite relevant. This guy
is not asking for resumes and not selling something.
If DB2 was potentially ever going to be a player again in my career it
might be worth doing. For me that is not the case ... but it could be
for some.
It kinda sounds like IBM is sorta desperate though to fill seats here
if they are resorting to posting this item on cdos.
# Well I felt that this post was really relevant.
I for a sample size of one also feel that this post is relevant.
Subject line states clearly what the value proposition is.
As someone who in a former life spent a whole bunch of years doing IMS
and then later some DB2 database admin ... and many of us here in cdos
land may have similar experiences ... seems quite relevant. This guy
is not asking for resumes and not selling something.
If DB2 was potentially ever going to be a player again in my career it
might be worth doing. For me that is not the case ... but it could be
for some.
It kinda sounds like IBM is sorta desperate though to fill seats here
if they are resorting to posting this item on cdos.
joel garry
Sep 20, 2012, 11:56:19 AM9/20/12
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On Sep 20, 6:38 am, John Hurley <johnthehur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> cruss:
>
> # Well I felt that this post was really relevant.
>
> I for a sample size of one also feel that this post is relevant.
> Subject line states clearly what the value proposition is.
>
> As someone who in a former life spent a whole bunch of years doing IMS
> and then later some DB2 database admin ... and many of us here in cdos
> land may have similar experiences ... seems quite relevant. This guy
> is not asking for resumes and not selling something.
Selling something that is free is still selling something. That by
> cruss:
>
> # Well I felt that this post was really relevant.
>
> I for a sample size of one also feel that this post is relevant.
> Subject line states clearly what the value proposition is.
>
> As someone who in a former life spent a whole bunch of years doing IMS
> and then later some DB2 database admin ... and many of us here in cdos
> land may have similar experiences ... seems quite relevant. This guy
> is not asking for resumes and not selling something.
definition makes it irrelevant, since there is no actual technical
content, merely an offer to get you into a workshop, which may or may
not be a sales or "pre-sales" presentation, though posting it here
sure looks explicitly like trying to drum up business. The subject
line clearly states a "value proposition," as you put it. I wonder
how you get that to not be "services offered," an explicit part of
cdom in the charter.
From wikipedia: Big data usually includes data sets with sizes beyond
the ability of commonly-used software tools to capture, manage, and
process the data within a tolerable elapsed time.
So does that rule out the contents of the workshop? That's why I call
bullshit. Just as I would for something actually Oracle related that
didn't actually give what is advertised. The sad thing is I called it
before I even looked at the contents, and was right. I would like to
see someone using any kind of compatibility mode on petabytes of data.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/sep/17/wildfire-settlement-raises-utility-cost-recovery-s/
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