Oracle 8.0.6 on Windows 2003
Karen Middleton
that works only with Oracle 806 it is not certified for Oracle 816 or
Oracle 9x or Oracle 10g.
Can any of you please confirm whether Oracle 806 runs on Windows 2003.
I managed to install Oracle 806 on Windows 2003 and it as been
behaving miserably I cannot start some of the utilities like the TNS
utilities I managed to uninstall most of it from Ora installer but not
all of it before uninstalling I tried using Oradim80 to delete the
Oracle instance created it just did not work.
Please clarify where I am going wrong.
Also, how do I clean up a messed Oracle install. The ora installer as
removed some components and refuses to remain the remaining quite a
few TNS listener and Oracle instance Windows Services is still
remaining lingering. Is there any other tool apart from the
Orainstaller that can cleanup an messed Oracle install. Is there a
cleanup tool to forcefully cleanly remove an Oracle install.
Thanks
Karen
Michel Cadot
"Karen Middleton" <karenm...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
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Neihter 8.0 nor 8i are certified on W2003.
Only 9iR2 (9.2) and 10g are certified.
To clean (almost) all Oracle components (after trying with OUI) use Del key in Windows explorer
and Regedit (HKLM\Software\Oracle, HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services).
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Regards
Michel Cadot
Daniel Morgan
As Michel has stated 8.0.6 is not supported on any current Windows
platform. And your reference to 8.1.6 equally problematic as it too
is not certified for any current Windows platform.
What troubles me most is your assumption that your application wouldn't
work just fine under 9i or 10g. My first instinct would be to install it
on 9.0.1 or 9.2.0.5 and find out. Most likely your worst case scenario
would be setting the compatibility parameter in the init.ora.
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University of Washington
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Harvey
I agree with Daniel - I'd try to run it under 9i. What may be an issue
more than on the database side would be the client side. As an example,
if your frontend app is written under Centura Windows, depending on the
development version you may have a .dll incompatibility with the 9i
client software. The solution for that is simple - use the Net8
software to connect.
Good luck,
Harvey
Paul Drake
> I need to install Oracle 806 on Windows 2003 for a legacy application
> that works only with Oracle 806 it is not certified for Oracle 816 or
> Oracle 9x or Oracle 10g.
installing on windows 2000 is not an option?
> Can any of you please confirm whether Oracle 806 runs on Windows 2003.
no entries currently exist on metalink under certify and availability
for 8.0.6 for w2k or w2k3.
> I managed to install Oracle 806 on Windows 2003 and it as been
> behaving miserably I cannot start some of the utilities like the TNS
> utilities I managed to uninstall most of it from Ora installer but not
> all of it before uninstalling I tried using Oradim80 to delete the
> Oracle instance created it just did not work.
can you at least use an 8.1.7.4.16 tns listener (or 9.2.0.5.3) on the
server?
It should work well on w2k3, and should support connections to an
8.0.6 database instance.
have you tried using 8i R3 database server + patches (8.1.7.4.16) with
compatible set to 8.0.6?
as far as I have read no patches are going to be released for security
alert #68 for 8.0.x.
I believe that the 8.1.7 dbca (database creation assistant) had an
option to select a compatible of 8.0.5 (instead of the usual 8.1.0).
> Please clarify where I am going wrong.
> Also, how do I clean up a messed Oracle install.
Metalink Note:124353.1
WIN: Manually Removing all Oracle Components on Microsoft Windows
Platforms
> The ora installer as
> removed some components and refuses to remain the remaining quite a
> few TNS listener and Oracle instance Windows Services is still
> remaining lingering. Is there any other tool apart from the
> Orainstaller that can cleanup an messed Oracle install.
regedit - remove HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORACLE for starters.
remove all oracle_homes, oracle_base and c:\program files\oracle.
purge and reboot.
> Thanks
> Karen
consider opening an iTAR to determine if there might be EMS (extended
maintenance support) available for 8.0.x.
hth.
-bdbafh
Paul Drake
I would strongly recommend NOT removing the key
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services
I believe that the poster meant removal of individual services.
Before making any changes via regedit please backup the registry.
-bdbafh
David Fitzjarrell
Is there some reason you're using Windows 2003? 8.0.6 isn't certified
for any Windows platform newer than NT 4.0, so I'm afraid you are out
of luck with respect to installing and running this release on Windows
2003. Possibly you can find an old Windows NT 4.0 system, or the
installation disks (hopefully including SP6) to use. I understand the
legacy application won't run on anything more recent than 8.0.6 (my
sympathies) so the suggestions to use said versions are useless to
you. Your only recourse is to find Windows NT 4.0 and use it for your
database server O/S.
Oracle certifies versions with certain platforms for reliability and
supportability issues. Yes, you did get 8.0.6 installed on Windows
2003, however the fact that most utilities won't work. or work
reliably and repeatably, is one reason 8.0.6 is not certified for
Windows 2003. Of course, the fact that 8.0.6 is a long desupported
release is another reason; 9i, 9iR2 and 10g have all been released
since Windows 2003 was announced by Microsoft, making them the
releases of choice for this O/S.
I know you are in a position you can't change given the legacy
software you are required to support. I hope you can find a Windows
NT 4.0 machine to use, or that you can find the installation disks/CDs
to put NT 4.0 on a more modern box (presuming it will install on a
recent machine). It is the only operating system you can use for
Oracle 8.0.6.
David Fitzjarrell
Mladen Gogala
> Can any of you please confirm whether Oracle 806 runs on Windows 2003.
It's not supported. Upgrade to something newer, like 8.1.5 or 9.0.1
--
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Mladen Gogala
>
> no entries currently exist on metalink under certify and availability
> for 8.0.6 for w2k or w2k3.
Of course they don't because 8.0.6 was desupported in the year 2001,
which is the year when Win2k appeared. The 8.0.6 is only supported
on NT 4.0, which, in itself, is no longer supported.
Niall Litchfield
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>I need to install Oracle 806 on Windows 2003 for a legacy application
> that works only with Oracle 806 it is not certified for Oracle 816 or
> Oracle 9x or Oracle 10g.
Interesting question. Your app is only certified for an unsupported version
of Oracle that will not run on any supported windows platform. If the client
side is also 8.0.x then you will likely have the same issue with the client.
I'd suggest one of
1. Run the app against a current version of Oracle.
2. Do not change what you have now. (keep the legacy system running as is).
3. Run against Oracle 8.0.x on some stable Unix box (at least you get a
supported OS).
I'd plump for 2. It sounds from the tenor of your question that support is
important to you and there is no way on earth to get all the elements of the
system supported.
Obviously I'd also be looking for ways to migrate away from this vendor (and
discuss with them why this is).
--
Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
http://www.niall.litchfield.dial.pipex.com
Michel Cadot
"Paul Drake" <bdb...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
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I meant Oracle services under HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services,
I can't imagine someone is enough insane to delete all services!
I should have been more precise, thanks for the clarification.
--
Regards
Michel Cadot
Mark Bole
> karenm...@yahoo.com (Karen Middleton) wrote in message news:<a5fd468a.0409...@posting.google.com>...
>
>>I need to install Oracle 806 on Windows 2003 for a legacy application
>>that works only with Oracle 806 it is not certified for Oracle 816 or
>>Oracle 9x or Oracle 10g.
>>
[...]
>>Thanks
>>Karen
>
[...]
>
> I know you are in a position you can't change given the legacy
> software you are required to support. I hope you can find a Windows
> NT 4.0 machine to use, or that you can find the installation disks/CDs
> to put NT 4.0 on a more modern box (presuming it will install on a
> recent machine). It is the only operating system you can use for
> Oracle 8.0.6.
>
> David Fitzjarrell
Are you sure this vendor's product is certified for the 21st century? ;-)
As Daniel said, just because it's not "certified" for newer versions of
Oracle doesn't mean it won't work. There is typically a high degree of
backwards compatibility in Oracle's RDBMS products.
However, installing NT 4.0 on a modern PeeCee can be done, if you find
you must go that route. (I wouldn't trust the reliability of a piece of
hardware old enough to have come with NT 4.0 as the original OS). The
biggest problem you may have, other than getting your hands on the NT
4.0 disks and downloading SP4 or higher, is not recognizing an IDE hard
drive larger than 8 GB. See Microsoft document Q197667 for workaround.
--Mark Bole
Jeremy
says...
>
> It's not supported. Upgrade to something newer, like 8.1.5 or 9.0.1
>
>
Why suggest these versions - surely nobody would upgrade to 8.1.5 it's
not supported any more is it?
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jeremy
_______________________________________
jeremy at hireserve dot com
Mladen Gogala
> Why suggest these versions - surely nobody would upgrade to 8.1.5 it's
> not supported any more is it?
No. And neither is 9.0.1.
Jeremy
says...
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:14:16 +0100, Jeremy wrote:
>
> > Why suggest these versions - surely nobody would upgrade to 8.1.5 it's
> > not supported any more is it?
>
> No. And neither is 9.0.1.
>
>
joke that I missed ;)
Sybrand Bakker
<gog...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:22:41 -0700, Karen Middleton wrote:
>
>> Can any of you please confirm whether Oracle 806 runs on Windows 2003.
>
>It's not supported. Upgrade to something newer, like 8.1.5 or 9.0.1
Both 8.1.5 and 9.0.1 aren't supported anymore
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Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA
Michael D. Long
get 8.0.6 running on any Windows version newer than NT 4. When Windows 2000
was first released I was working with a client that wanted to deploy on it
instead of NT 4 as originally planned, and also planned to upgrade to Oracle
8.0.5 from 7.3.4 at about that time. They insisted we test against 8.0.5,
so rather than mess up our primary Oracle development platform I tried
installing 8.0.5 on Win2K. Big mistake. After 2 weeks of working with
Oracle Support (a great team, BTW) we threw in the towel.
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Michael D. Long
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