TO ALL SUPPORTERS OF ARNO R AND HIS GOONS
PC Datasheet
Today I received over 1000 bounced emails. Arno R and his goons are sending
mass emails with my email address to fictitious addresses and they are
bouncing back to my inbox. DO NOT tell me this could be a virus because it
has been verified that IT IS NOT!! I have also been receiving other unwanted
email at my office from Arno R and other forms of harassment at my office
from Arno R and his goons.
I will begin posting full page advertisements in the newsgroups unless all
the following is done immediately:
1. Arno R and his goons stop sending fictitious emails with my email
address
2. Arno R stops sending emails to my office
3. Arno R and his goons stop all other forms of harassment at my office
4. The slanderous website about me is shutdown permanently
5. All tracking of my posts to the newsgroups stops immediately
6. All subversive responses to my posts to the newsgroups stops immediately
You all have supported, promoted and encouraged Arno R and his goons long
enough.
IF YOU THINK THIS IS A BIG JOKE, YOU DON'T CARE A DAMN ABOUT THE
NEWSGROUPS!!!
IF YOU THINK I AM KIDDING, DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT ARNO R AND HIS GOONS AND
YOU WILL BEGIN SEEING LOTS OF ADVERTISING!!!!
Any subversive responses to this post will be taken as a green light to
begin posting full page advertising.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help. My fees are very reasonable.
Tom Lake
> AND YOU WILL BEGIN SEEING LOTS OF ADVERTISING!!!!
No we won't. We'll just PLONK you and never see anything.
Tom Lake
Duane Hookom
So, you will seek some kind of revenge against the 1,000s of people who use
the public news groups for something that you BELIEVE was caused by one or a
few participants? That is a stupid as a city setting speed limits to 10 mph
because the police believe a couple motorists were speeding.
I would never agree with and I am not aware of any of this behavior that
your are blaming on others. I have never seen any kind of proof and find it
a little difficult to believe that anyone would take the time or effort to
do this to you.
If your behavior went beyond your normal advertising, I would expect several
others to take additional measures to convince you to use news groups only
as they were intended.
--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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PC Datasheet
along.
I'm not kidding!!!!
<<find it a little difficult to believe that anyone would take the time or
effort to do this to you.>>
How much time and effort do you think it took Arno R to create his
slanderous website about me?
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.
"Duane Hookom" <duane...@NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tim Marshall
> ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
Thank you, does this mean you'll stop advertising?
> IF YOU THINK THIS IS A BIG JOKE, YOU DON'T CARE A DAMN ABOUT THE
> NEWSGROUPS!!!
Hypocrisy - You've already shown enough contempt for cdma's charter so
as to brand yourself accordingly as "not caring about the newsgroups".
> Any subversive responses to this post will be taken as a green light to
> begin posting full page advertising.
"Subversive"? It's amusing that you have such an overblown view of your
own importance so as to call something "subversive". Must we now ask
your permission or clear your committee of "UnStevelike usenet behaviour"?
Wow, I've seen some self-important usenet loons before, but this is
ridiculous.
Nevertheless, I think email bombing is not a good thing to do,
regardless of whether or not you morally deserve it. Whoever is
involved, SHOULD STOP and it you would be advised to get some of the
headers and make appropriate complaints to ISPs.
Your threat, by the way, is typical of that of a psychotically abusive
spouse - "if I can't have things my way, I'll just destroy you and
everything around". The results of which all of us, all over the world,
see sad news stories on all too frequently. You should really examine
your reaction to this.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Wayne Gillespie
>YOU WILL BEGIN SEEING LOTS OF ADVERTISING!!!!
This should make complaints to your ISP all the more likely to be acted upon.
Wayne Gillespie
Gosford NSW Australia
Duane Hookom
you from advertising. I have also made a very consistent attempt to never
call anyone names. I still recall as a 5th grader telling someone in class
to "go to h...". I was embarrassed as a elementary school student for having
said this.
I am disappointed in myself because I once called you "stupid". I have tried
to limit my criticisms to your actions and not you personally. I'm sure if
you dig, you can find a post where my target was your rather than behavior.
--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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Tim Marshall
Steve's posts if you are offended by his abuse of the cdma charter. If
someone IS actually doing the supposed email bombing Steve described,
then IMO that person is violating their own ISP's acceptable use policy
and should have their account revoked.
It should also be pointed out that Earthlink, Steve's ISP, or the means
by which he posts to usenet, has the following policy on usenet, found
under "Acceptable Use" at http://www.earthlink.net/about/policies/use/
"m.News. EarthLink Members should use their best judgment when posting
to any newsgroup. Many groups have charters, published guidelines, FAQs,
or "community standards" describing what is and is not considered
appropriate. Usenet can be a valuable resource if used properly. The
continued posting of off-topic articles is prohibited. Commercial
advertisements are off-topic in most newsgroups, especially regional
groups not specifically named for such. The presence of such articles in
a group is not indicative of the group's "intended" use. Please
familiarize yourself with basic Usenet netiquette before posting to a
newsgroup."
If you do feel Steve is violating the newsgroup charter, then forward
the full headers of the offending post to ab...@earthlink.net. Most
ISPs will be unable to do anything without the full headers, and most
will ignore any email complaint which includes the offending post as an
attachment. Send it in line.
The usual and civilized method of complaining about a poster's behaviour
is to first admonish him publicaly or privately, and, if that fails,
then complain to the ISP. I think the first part of the above process
has been done exhaustively.
David C. Holley
Maybe you'll get over it.
Lyle Fairfield
Sorry about all the fuss. I've remonstrated with all the goons about
messing with your e-mail and they promised never to do so in the
future.
Just in case they want to get in touch with you for legitimate purposes
though, I taught them how to send free anonymous faxes to your fax
number.
So, you see, something has been done and you can just calm down now and
get a great night's sleep.
Hope this helps!
Your buddy,
(Evil Twin) Kyle
PS
Did you take all your pills today? C'mon guy, you promised and it's
REALLY important!
David C. Holley
around moderated forums. I'm quite tired of this and would love to
revoke your posting privledges if at all possible.
John Marshall, MVP
will mean that he can prey on his victims, the new users, with impunity.
John... Visio MVP
"Tom Lake" <tl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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PC Datasheet
Actually you are to be commended!! Your reaction is very sensible and
mature.
If the handful of jerks just took your approach, the problem would quickly
just go away.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.
"Tom Lake" <tl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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Duane Hookom
participant in these threads (other than you) is "advertising is out of
place in public news groups". Are you suggesting that you will do your best
to not advertise in news groups?
--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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tina
> ISPs will be unable to do anything without the full headers, and most
> will ignore any email complaint which includes the offending post as an
> attachment. Send it in line.
Tim, i understand the reference to "in line" as opposed to email attachment.
but what do you mean by "full headers"? do you mean the "From:", "To:", and
"Subject:" lines? or something else that should be included in the email?
tia, tina :)
Randy Harris
receiving spam.
Everyone with an email address gets spam. When Steve gets spam, it must be
a conspiracy. Don't fret Steve, you're not paranoid. Everyone really is
out to get you.
Br@dley
PC Datasheet wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Actually you are to be commended!! Your reaction is very sensible and
> mature.
Is holding the entire group to randsom with the threat of a spam
compaign mature?
> If the handful of jerks just took your approach, the problem would
> quickly just go away.
>
>
>
> "Tom Lake" <tl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eN0qdGs$FHA...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> IF YOU THINK I AM KIDDING, DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT ARNO R AND HIS
>>> GOONS AND YOU WILL BEGIN SEEING LOTS OF ADVERTISING!!!!
>>
>> No we won't. We'll just PLONK you and never see anything.
>>
>> Tom Lake
--
regards,
Bradley
A Christian Response
http://www.pastornet.net.au/response
Br@dley
Nope. The full headers includes a lot more info. (In Outlook Express,
open a message and then go to File/Propertis/Details.
eg.
Path:
news-server.bigpond.net.au!ken-transit.news.telstra.net!ken-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
Reply-To: "tina" <nos...@address.com>
From: "tina" <nos...@address.com>
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Br@dley
> Is this a hoot or what! The king of newsgroup spam complaining about
> receiving spam.
>
> Everyone with an email address gets spam.
Nah, I don't get any :)
> When Steve gets spam, it
> must be a conspiracy. Don't fret Steve, you're not paranoid.
> Everyone really is out to get you.
--
Piri
Sniff!
PC Datasheet
Here are your own words --
<<I would not have criticized you if this thread was about 10 replies long
and
it was clear that the OP needed to find a contractor.
--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--
>>
And how about this one --
Yep, and this was after your posts a few months ago that said to the
effect that some of PC's posts/responces were misleading because the person
would not know that for more extensive help there would be a charge for it.
I thought this was a bogus and still do, people can figure that out for
themselves.
Just like the links that others have supplied to their webstsites,
people will know that for more extensive help there will be a price. For
example: I have not yet seen a comment from you about Kevin Hill of 3NF
Consulting. Do you really think that anybody that goes to the "Newsgroups"
(that is not a newsgroup listing) page think that any furthur help is free.
One link on there is only emil, but the other is for phone support at 1.39
per minute, and of course they can go to the menu items for services,
pricing, etc.
(Name omitted so Arno R and his goons could not attack him)
And how about ---
Larry Linson asked me some time ago if I would subcontract to him some of
the work I was doing for people from the newsgroups who came to me for help
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.
"Duane Hookom" <duane...@NoSpamHotmail.com> wrote in message
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PC Datasheet
Take a look at what follows this guy's name ---
It has absolutely nothing to do with Access which makes it pure advertising
and no one says a word about it. This guy posted twice in this thread and
frequently posts to the newsgroups.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.
"Br@dley" <br...@usenet.org> wrote in message
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Arno R
Comments inline
> Today I received over 1000 bounced emails. Arno R and his goons are sending
> mass emails with my email address to fictitious addresses and they are
> bouncing back to my inbox. DO NOT tell me this could be a virus because it
> has been verified that IT IS NOT!! I have also been receiving other unwanted
> email at my office from Arno R and other forms of harassment at my office
> from Arno R and his goons.
IF this fairy-tale about emails-to-the-office is at all true, I guess it is only you who gave somebody an idea??
Remember: Even yesterday I asked you to show me ONE unwanted email...
But IF it is true, it is *not me* buddy, and none of my so-called goons AFAIK.
I am convinced that we are too much civilized to do so.
> I will begin posting full page advertisements in the newsgroups unless all
> the following is done immediately:
> 1. Arno R and his goons stop sending fictitious emails with my email
> address
> 2. Arno R stops sending emails to my office
> 3. Arno R and his goons stop all other forms of harassment at my office
Again: It is *not me* buddy...
I don't know who this might be. But it is simple enough to do though ...
Hmmm... just got an idea: Bet you will like a chain letter about you...??
> 4. The slanderous website about me is shutdown permanently
Would be a pity...wouldn't it ?
Although the website is doing good (> 125 first-time-visitors until now)...
I don't think enough of your *potential* customers have seen the website yet.
Btw: Are you finally 'getting it' Steve??
Are you finally understanding that this website might indeed cost you money??
> 5. All tracking of my posts to the newsgroups stops immediately
We *will* track your posts!!
But all that is needed is a link to the website as soon as you have posted here.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (soon to be updated ...)
No arguing, no shouting, no name-calling is needed, just the link.
For the rest I think you are to be ignored!!
As I already said in the ms.public.access.gettinggstarted group:
"Everyone is FREE to use the link".
> 6. All subversive responses to my posts to the newsgroups stops immediately
If you post a nonsense answer I guess someone will correct you.
If you call that subversive??
<snipped sort of a real frightening threat and advertising>
Arno R
Keith W
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Hi Steve,
Comments inline
>> Today I received over 1000 bounced emails. Arno R and his goons are
>> sending
>> mass emails with my email address to fictitious addresses and they are
>> bouncing back to my inbox. DO NOT tell me this could be a virus because
>> it
>> has been verified that IT IS NOT!! I have also been receiving other
>> unwanted
>> email at my office from Arno R and other forms of harassment at my
>> office
>> from Arno R and his goons.
> IF this fairy-tale about emails-to-the-office is at all true, I guess it
> is only you who gave somebody an idea??
> Remember: Even yesterday I asked you to show me ONE unwanted email...
> But IF it is true, it is *not me* buddy, and none of my so-called goons
> AFAIK.
> I am convinced that we are too much civilized to do so.
Nor is it me, FWIW, I have much better things to do with my time,
thankfully.
Keith.
Tim Marshall
> Tim, i understand the reference to "in line" as opposed to email attachment.
> but what do you mean by "full headers"? do you mean the "From:", "To:", and
> "Subject:" lines? or something else that should be included in the email?
From your headers, you used Outlook Express to post your message 8)
I'm afraid I don't know how to set Outlook to display full headers as I
use Netscape. Perhaps somebody else can help you out, sorry 8(
For example, full headers on your last post would be (don't worry this
is publicly available - it's just that most folks turn off "full
headers" for routine browsing):
Path:
coranto.ucs.mun.ca!News.Dal.Ca!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
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Rob Oldfield
"Keith W" <he...@there.com> wrote in message
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> Nor is it me, FWIW, I have much better things to do with my time,
> thankfully.
>
> Keith.
>
>
Personally, I'm a bit unclear about whether I count as a goon or not. What
are the qualifications necessary and is there any kind of certification
required?
Keith W
news:OKT0zQw$FHA...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>
> Personally, I'm a bit unclear about whether I count as a goon or not.
> What
> are the qualifications necessary and is there any kind of certification
> required?
>
>
engraved on your headstone ;o) I'm now confused as to whether I'm supposed
to be a Goon or a Dimwit or both.
Keith W
news:dnjekk$5ui$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
>
> From your headers, you used Outlook Express to post your message 8) I'm
> afraid I don't know how to set Outlook to display full headers as I use
> Netscape. Perhaps somebody else can help you out, sorry 8(
>
John Marshall, MVP
> 4. The slanderous website about me is shutdown permanently
You need to get a dictionary. Considering the amount of libelous things you
have posted, I thought you would at least know the
difference between slander and libel. Considering the webpage in question
also includes links to copies of newsgroup posts as
proof of the allegations, I can not see how you can claim the statements as
being false.
John... Visio MVP
Keith W
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>
> begin posting full page advertising.
>
David C. Holley
the problem of only sending out 1,000 emails. We should be able to send
out the 10,000 that we discussed during our weekly conference call. Hope
everyone is looking forward to our 2006 Annual Meeting here in Orlando.
Randy Harris
I'm pretty sure I'm a dimwit but maybe I can be both?
David C. Holley
Check out the requirements to be a goon at
www.spamPCDatasheet.org/membership/goons.html
The certification exam will be held on the 2nd day of the 2006
Conference so that we can have them scored in time for the closing
ceremonies. The Deadline to apply is this Friday.
Randy Harris
"David C. Holley" <DavidC...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:eVW9YKy$FHA...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> FYI - I just posted a new VB app at www.spamPCDatasheet.org which fixes
> the problem of only sending out 1,000 emails. We should be able to send
> out the 10,000 that we discussed during our weekly conference call. Hope
> everyone is looking forward to our 2006 Annual Meeting here in Orlando.
Whoa! That's not funny. I don't know anything about sending any spam mail
to anyone, nor anything about a conference call. I know absolutely nothing
about the spam mail that Datasheet claims to have gotten. I don't know why
you would suggest otherwise.
Randy Harris
PC Datasheet
Dough J: I cant tell you the exact number but it seems to be more than 11oo
Dough J: I mean 1100
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Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
reso...@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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> ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!
>
> Today I received over 1000 bounced emails. Arno R and his goons are
> sending mass emails with my email address to fictitious addresses and they
> are bouncing back to my inbox. DO NOT tell me this could be a virus
> because it has been verified that IT IS NOT!! I have also been receiving
> other unwanted email at my office from Arno R and other forms of
> harassment at my office from Arno R and his goons.
>
> I will begin posting full page advertisements in the newsgroups unless all
> the following is done immediately:
> 1. Arno R and his goons stop sending fictitious emails with my email
> address
> 2. Arno R stops sending emails to my office
> 3. Arno R and his goons stop all other forms of harassment at my office
> 4. The slanderous website about me is shutdown permanently
> 5. All tracking of my posts to the newsgroups stops immediately
> 6. All subversive responses to my posts to the newsgroups stops
> immediately
>
> You all have supported, promoted and encouraged Arno R and his goons long
> enough.
>
> IF YOU THINK THIS IS A BIG JOKE, YOU DON'T CARE A DAMN ABOUT THE
> NEWSGROUPS!!!
>
> IF YOU THINK I AM KIDDING, DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT ARNO R AND HIS GOONS
> AND YOU WILL BEGIN SEEING LOTS OF ADVERTISING!!!!
>
> Any subversive responses to this post will be taken as a green light to
> begin posting full page advertising.
>
>
Randy Harris
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
> Response from Earthlink Spam/Internet Fraud Engineers --
>
> Dough J: I cant tell you the exact number but it seems to be more than
11oo
> Dough J: I mean 1100
>
>
> --
> PC Datasheet
Can they tell you the source?
Danny J. Lesandrini
--
Danny J. Lesandrini
dlesa...@hotmail.com
http://amazecreations.com/datafast
"Lyle Fairfield" <lylefa...@aim.com> wrote ...
> Hi Steve
>
> Sorry about all the fuss. ...
>
> Your buddy,
> (Evil Twin) Kyle
>
> PS
> Did you take all your pills today? C'mon guy, you promised and it's
> REALLY important!
>
Duane Hookom
I recognize the first reference and I stand by the fact that I would not
have criticized you in the public news group for offering paid assistance in
that particular thread under those conditions. This doesn't mean that I
would agree with advertising, only that I would not have taken the time to
publicly criticize a poster under those conditions.
I have no idea what the rant following "And how about this one --" I can
assure you that if anyone else began blatantly advertising, they would get
similar criticism from me and others.
--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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Keith W
> Response from Earthlink Spam/Internet Fraud Engineers --
>
> Dough J: I cant tell you the exact number but it seems to be more than
> 11oo
> Dough J: I mean 1100
>
So what? What did they have to say about your spamming this group, or
didn't you mention it? Is there really such a thing as an "Internet Fraud
Engineer"?
StopThisAdvertising
"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:qI5nf.2683$nm....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> How much time and effort do you think it took Arno R to create his
> slanderous website about me?
It took me some time indeed (> two days), but it's not bad ehhh??
It *is* really bad HTML-code, but the info and the links provided are both good don't you agree?
We think it is important that people 'get the message'.
I am satisfied with the website for now. IMO it's not slanderous at all...
It is a sad story... would be slanderous if it would not be true.
I might ask here for some help to make the website more like a comic book.
But I guess it is not needed. You are making a fool of yourself again and again already.
Arno R
StopThisAdvertising
IMO you are a goon for stripping this post's newsgroups! ;-)
So WHY is this offer not available for comp.databases.ms-access readers??
Or is this some sort of Microsoft-only certification?
Question:
Can one become an Goon-MVP or Dimwit-MVP?
(Would be nice... Steve really hates all sorts of MVP's.
Arno R
"PC Goons" <PC Go...@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht news:10E87D5D-BA45-4FA8...@microsoft.com...
>I can offer you full training and certification in becoming a goon. Please
> contact me, and we can discuss some reasonable fee for this training. For an
> extra fee, you can also become trained and certified in being a dimwit.
>
> --
> PC Goons
> Your Resource For Help Doing Harassment, Fictitious Emails, Subversive
> Responses
> reso...@pcgoons.com
> www.pcgoons.com
Larry Linson
> OK Duane Hookum and all you other jerks ---
>
> Take a look at what follows this guy's name ---
> It has absolutely nothing to do with Access which makes it pure
advertising
> and no one says a word about it. This guy posted twice in this thread and
> frequently posts to the newsgroups.
I am not Duane and I do my dead-level best not to be a "jerk", but I did as
you asked, Steve, from the quote right in your post. Here's what I saw:
>> A Christian Response
>> http://www.pastornet.net.au/response
That doesn't look to me as if that is "advertising"... it is a perfectly
acceptable two-line SIG with a link to a website (that would have fit on a
single line, for that matter), and, does not appear to be promoting or
selling any goods or services.
If the site is doing so, it is your option to not click through, or to leave
if you don't like it, unlike your advertising which is there in the
newsgroup with every post. I be willing to wager that if you had only posted
a SIG containing just the name of your PC Datasheet site and the hyperlink,
people wouldn't be complaining about your advertising.
Not having a connection to Access does _not_ make it _advertising_, though
you might make a case for it being _off-topic_. If you find it so off-topic
and egregious that it offends you, I suggest you complain to his news
server. It does not offend me, so I am not going to do so.
Larry Linson
Larry Linson
I couldn't say about that, but there is an address to report abuse shown in
the headers of Steve's posts. You'll need to view and copy the headers in
order to complain, anyway.
Mike Preston
wrote:
>
>"David C. Holley" <DavidC...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:eVW9YKy$FHA...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> FYI - I just posted a new VB app at www.spamPCDatasheet.org which fixes
>> the problem of only sending out 1,000 emails. We should be able to send
>> out the 10,000 that we discussed during our weekly conference call. Hope
>> everyone is looking forward to our 2006 Annual Meeting here in Orlando.
>
>Whoa! That's not funny.
Whoa! Yes, it was, and is.
How much will the t-shirt concession cost? Geeks like t-shirts.
Geeks that like to send lots of emails especially like t-shirts.
mike
Randy Harris
"Mike Preston" <mbpa...@pacbell.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:439dbce5....@news.INDIVIDUAL.NET...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:22:15 GMT, "Randy Harris" <ra...@SpamFree.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"David C. Holley" <DavidC...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >news:eVW9YKy$FHA...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> FYI - I just posted a new VB app at www.spamPCDatasheet.org which fixes
> >> the problem of only sending out 1,000 emails. We should be able to send
> >> out the 10,000 that we discussed during our weekly conference call.
Hope
> >> everyone is looking forward to our 2006 Annual Meeting here in Orlando.
> >
> >Whoa! That's not funny.
>
> Whoa! Yes, it was, and is.
>
> How much will the t-shirt concession cost? Geeks like t-shirts.
> Geeks that like to send lots of emails especially like t-shirts.
>
> mike
Well, alright, I guess it was funny. I was just worried that our resident
troll would accuse me of sending him spam messages.
Randy
Lyle Fairfield
reminded to zipper up my wallet, check the lock on my chastity belt and
get ready for a bunch of lies.
Larry Linson
> Sure, I have no problem with "A Christian Response"; it's helpful to be
> reminded to zipper up my wallet, check the lock on my chastity belt and
> get ready for a bunch of lies.
Lyle,
Not knowing nor assuming what "A Christian Response" might be, I am/was not
offended.
That is just as I stated to Steve -- if someone includes a link in a post,
no one is obligated to follow the link to see what's there -- I didn't
follow that one. If Steve, for instance, included a link to "A Spammer's
Response", I wouldn't follow that one either.
Larry
Randy Harris
"Larry Linson" <bou...@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:Vslnf.21949$qF6.14707@trnddc01...
Maybe I "just don't get it", as Steve keeps insisting, but I can't imagine
that anyone would object to the sig line that Bradley uses. I don't think
that many people would put that in the same category as the Datasheet
advertising.
--
Randy Harris
I'm pretty sure I know everything that I can remember.
Br@dley
> "PC Datasheet" wrote
>
>> OK Duane Hookum and all you other jerks ---
>>
>> Take a look at what follows this guy's name ---
>> It has absolutely nothing to do with Access which makes it pure
>> advertising and no one says a word about it. This guy posted twice
>> in this thread and frequently posts to the newsgroups.
> I am not Duane and I do my dead-level best not to be a "jerk", but I
> did as you asked, Steve, from the quote right in your post. Here's
> what I saw:
>>> A Christian Response
>>> http://www.pastornet.net.au/response
> That doesn't look to me as if that is "advertising"... it is a
> perfectly acceptable two-line SIG with a link to a website (that
> would have fit on a single line, for that matter),
It could but IMO as long as it's 4 lines or less that fine.
> and, does not
> appear to be promoting or selling any goods or services.
Nup. It's not.
> If the site is doing so, it is your option to not click through, or
> to leave if you don't like it, unlike your advertising which is there
> in the newsgroup with every post. I be willing to wager that if you
> had only posted a SIG containing just the name of your PC Datasheet
> site and the hyperlink, people wouldn't be complaining about your
> advertising.
> Not having a connection to Access does _not_ make it _advertising_,
> though you might make a case for it being _off-topic_. If you find it
> so off-topic and egregious that it offends you, I suggest you
> complain to his news server. It does not offend me, so I am not going
> to do so.
> Larry Linson
Complain to my news server? They'd laugh at anyone complaining about it.
It's basically my homepage at the moment so if anyone has a problem with
it then I'd suggest they get over it:)
PCDatasheet, you are really struggling if you are trying to make an
issue of this.
--
regards,
Bradley
Br@dley
It's a pretty lame attack. Best to ignore it.
--
regards,
Bradley
David W. Fenton
news:oPlnf.18490$ea6....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
> It's a pretty lame attack. Best to ignore it.
I wish you people would learn that basic lesson -- ignore all of it,
including the advertisements.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
rkc
> Lyle, you're my favorite person on this newsgroup ... always have been, always will be.
Ditto.
Lyle Fairfield
Lyle Fairfield
I meant to convey something by overstatement. Obviously I didn't do a
good job or perhaps any job at all.
Having tried for the last twenty minutes to explain that something and
failed completely I will erase what I have written and just hope this
will silently fade away.
Randy Harris
missed. We lose the advantages of the subtle ancillaries - inflection,
pause, expression, etc. Humor and sarcasm are frequently overlooked.
;-{)
Randy
"Lyle Fairfield" <lylefa...@aim.com> wrote in message
news:1134430775.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Rob Oldfield
news:439da533$0$2342$ba62...@text.nova.planet.nl...
Completely off topic, but I think it's a very good web site. It's simple,
clear, and with the content clearly visible and easily accessible. And with
no fatuous, imbecilic flash animations/rollover graphics/blinking
text/information tickers/other b*llocks serving no useful purpose.
For reference, take a look at http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ - that's the
site of Jakob Neilsen, the bloke who is pretty much the king of web
usability. A pretty similar design.
Well done.
Larry Linson
> Now I'm afraid to post anything!
Lonely at the top, eh, Lyle?
David C. Holley
(Serious note - This'll be my last post concerning this most recent spat.)
Trevor Best
> One of the shortcomings of electronic communication media. Intent is often
> missed. We lose the advantages of the subtle ancillaries - inflection,
> pause, expression, etc. Humor and sarcasm are frequently overlooked.
>
> ;-{)
Smileys help.