>ORACLE ANNOUNCES NEW FEATURES AND FUNCTIONALITY FOR SECOND
>GENERATION, CLIENT/SERVER DEVELOPERS
[Press release follows...]
Wow, at almost $4k per developer, this should be SOME HOT development tool.
We're running PB against Oracle Rdb (NEVER thought I'd see myself write that!
[Shudder!] Used to be DEC Rdb, and I used to work for DEC.] With the described
native access to Rdb, this sounds on paper like a great product for use to use,
rather than PowerBuilder. But we just moved to PB, and have overspent our
budget getting there. It's about 8 months too late for us to switch (from
formerly DEC RALLY, now Oracle RALLY, soon to be DOA?).
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Note that the person who posted it works for Oracle - no big surprise there!
Not a slam, just to make it obvious to folks that might not have read the bottom
of the press release.
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Stew Stryker sstr...@sover.net
"All opinions are my own, except where noted otherwise"
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Drag-and-drop application partitioning is also a feature of New Era?
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Alberto Teszkiewicz
m...@dia.edu.ar
[SNIP]
Anybody got any lupins?
Aaaaaaagghhh :-)
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Cheers,
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We spent the summer negotiating with CA over their OpenROAD pricing, and
along the way we also spoke to Oracle about Developer/2000.
For a variety of reasons we chose OpenROAD, but we did feel that Oracle's
pricing strategy made more sense than CA's, because Oracle does not
charge for runtime use of the product. You pay up front for the
developer package, and then you can distribute your applications to as
many users as you want for free. (You pay separately for the database
server, but this would be true in most cases anyway). This is a great
marketing strategy, because once a customer buys into the developer
package, he/she will want to use it for as many applications as possible.
The more Developer/2000 applications you find out on people's desks, the
more exposure the product has to other potential customers. In contrast,
CA charges a much lower price per developer, but charges again for each
runtime version of the product, which has the effect of discouraging
customers from distributing OpenROAD apps. How does PowerSoft handle
this?
Elena M Yatzeck
Graduate School of Business
University of Chicago
Not immediately. Informix is talking about an a.p. wizard, but have not said
when it will be available. (Ver. 3.0?)
I don't think this is the most important issue right now. What you drag and drop
in Developer/2000 is SPL code so the only server side execution you can do
is stored procedures in an Oracle database. NewEra at least generates machine
code executed as normal OS programs (or P-Code to be interpreted if you want,
but still under the OS). You don't need any database on the application
server, and you can do a lot more under the OS than in stored procedures.
Someone has called Developer/2000 2 1/2 tier, while NewEra is true 3 to multi
tier. But be aware also: For many it may not matter too much, for others it may.
Of course much more than drag and drop a.p. will be needed shortly in a
competitive marketplace. Run time partition administration, performance tuning
+++ comes to mind. With a lot of automation and GUI wizards.
Nils.My...@ccmail.telemax.no
NM-data, Dalsbergstien 7, N-0170 Oslo, Norway
My opinions are those of my company