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Neil Truby

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Mar 25, 2010, 8:17:15 PM3/25/10
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IDS 11.5 FC6 on RHEL 5.4

More JavaShite problems with the normal install and get the stuff below
starting ++++++. Even Surnam's workaround of extracting the .jvm.bin can't
save me this time.

Try the RPM install:
sh CZ79JEN_ids_115_fc6_ee_rpm.bin
Preparing to install...
Extracting the JRE from the installer archive...
Unpacking the JRE...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...

Launching installer...

Failed to find VM - aborting

Fixed that by Googling and unsetting some vital security feature ;-))))

[root@jp-1 11.5]# rpm -i iif-11.50.FC6-0.x86_64.rpm
Installation failed
exit status = 1
error: %post(iif-11.50.FC6-0.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1

Why IS this so difficult????????!!!!!!!!!

Any ideas greatefully received,. thanks.
Neil

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Initializing InstallShield Wizard........
Verifying JVM.Exception in thread "main"
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.7rh)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: version not found in
gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./],
parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.7rh)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.7rh)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.7rh)
at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.7rh)
Verifying JVM.Exception in thread "main"
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.7rh)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: version not found in
gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./],
parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.7rh)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.7rh)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.7rh)
at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.7rh)
Searching JVM........

This application requires a Java Run Time Environment (JRE)
to run. Searching for one on your computer was not successful.
Please use the command line switch -javahome to specify
a valid JRE. For more help use the option -help.

Chin, Paul (TSG-OSDO)

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Mar 25, 2010, 8:39:34 PM3/25/10
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This works for me installing IIF_11.50.FC6W1, no java home set, no path to java.

# which java
/usr/bin/which: no java in (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/root/bin)
# ./installserver

Do you want to run installer in GUI mode [y/n] :
n

Initializing InstallShield Wizard........
Launching InstallShield Wizard........


Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version
11.50

The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.50
on your computer.
To continue, choose Next.

IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.50
IBM Corporation
http://www.ibm.com


Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1]

Launching installer...

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Neil Truby

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Mar 26, 2010, 4:58:17 AM3/26/10
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"Chin, Paul (TSG-OSDO)" <pc...@hp.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.65.126956442...@iiug.org...

This works for me installing IIF_11.50.FC6W1, no java home set, no path to
java.

Yes, it's worked for me fine on other servers too. I have problems on
perhaps one install in ten. It's not within my power always to use the same
Linux distro or version. This one is an RHEL 5.4 install straight out of the
box.

My point is that the Java-based scripting was introduced for, so far as I
can see, no good reason at all. It adds no discernible functionality BUT,
if there's an issue, you are basically stuffed, and can't install IDS. I
resent its introduction.

I've tried 2 or 3 times but never managed to install with the new rpm
method.

Bogdan BOTEZ

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Mar 26, 2010, 5:12:08 AM3/26/10
to Neil Truby, inform...@iiug.org
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:58, Neil Truby <neil....@ardenta.com> wrote:
>
> My point is that the Java-based scripting was introduced for, so far as I
> can see, no good reason at all.  It adds no discernible functionality BUT,
> if there's an issue, you are basically stuffed, and can't install IDS.  I
> resent its introduction.
>
> I've tried 2 or 3 times but never managed to install with the new rpm
> method.
>

In your case it seems that the GNU java is installed and used.
The answer from the previous poster should work.

Otherwise, I can only agree with you (in my purely personal
opinion).

Regards,
Bogdan BOTEZ.

Art Kagel

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Mar 26, 2010, 7:08:22 AM3/26/10
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Neil, I agree, the Java installer was a bad idea.  It underlying purpose was noble - to have a single installer everywhere, but as with other noble causes, the results weren't as good and the purpose.   I'm not revealing anything proprietary by saying that this is addressed in the Panther installer.  In my testing so far no problems.

Art

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prasad

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Mar 27, 2010, 1:20:00 PM3/27/10
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On Mar 26, 4:08 pm, Art Kagel <art.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Neil, I agree, the Java installer was a bad idea.  It underlying purpose was
> noble - to have a single installer everywhere, but as with other noble
> causes, the results weren't as good and the purpose.   I'm not revealing
> anything proprietary by saying that this is addressed in the Panther
> installer.  In my testing so far no problems.
>
> Art
>
> Art S. Kagel
> Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com)
> IIUG Board of Directors (a...@iiug.org)
>
> See you at the 2010 IIUG Informix Conference
> April 25-28, 2010
> Overland Park (Kansas City), KSwww.iiug.org/conf
>
> Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and
> do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any other
> organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by
> inference.  Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals
> affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the
> entities themselves.
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Neil Truby <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote:
> > "Chin, Paul (TSG-OSDO)" <pc...@hp.com> wrote in message
> >news:mailman.65.126956442...@iiug.org...
> > This works for me installing  IIF_11.50.FC6W1, no java home set, no path to
> > java.
>
> > Yes, it's worked for me fine on other servers too.  I have problems on
> > perhaps one install in ten.  It's not within my power always to use the
> > same
> > Linux distro or version. This one is an RHEL 5.4 install straight out of
> > the
> > box.
>
> > My point is that the Java-based scripting was introduced for, so far as I
> > can see, no good reason at all.  It adds no discernible functionality BUT,
> > if there's an issue, you are basically stuffed, and can't install IDS.  I
> > resent its introduction.
>
> > I've tried 2 or 3 times but never managed to install with the new rpm
> > method.
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Informix-list mailing list
> > Informix-l...@iiug.org
> >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

In my installation on Ubuntu, steps below seem to work, please check
this

1) cd $INFORMIXDIR
2) . ./.jvm-bin
3) ./ids-install -javahome /home/informix/ids1150

Thanks
prasad

Sundar Shunmugam

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Mar 28, 2010, 10:25:37 AM3/28/10
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With new 11.50 fixpacks, we are offering two different Media types for Linux.

1. Regular media, continues to work the same way as all previous fixpacks.
2. RPM media, which uses a wrapper installer (.bin file), to copy out the RPM based install media.

As far as installation goes, after invoking the . bin file, going through installer prompts, it copies out a RPM file.

Follow the enclosed steps:

1. Prior to invoking the RPM file, ensure no external java is picked up as indicated in earlier response
# which java
/usr/bin/which: no java in (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/root/bin)
PS: RPM installer has internal JRE dependancy.

2. Start RPM installer using rpm command with switches.
3. To override defaults, modify bundle.ini provided in the media.
        Set the IFXRESFILE variable as needed for your environment, to the path/bundle.ini

For more details, refer to IDS unix installation guide. It can be accessed via infocenter link as enclosed
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/idshelp/v115/index.jsp

Hope this helps.

Thanx,
Sundar




From: "Chin, Paul (TSG-OSDO)" <pc...@hp.com>
To: "inform...@iiug.org" <inform...@iiug.org>
Date: 03/25/2010 07:47 PM
Subject: RE: More IDS install woe ...
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 This works for me installing  IIF_11.50.FC6W1, no java home set, no path to java.

# which java
/usr/bin/which: no java in (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/root/bin)
# ./installserver







           Do you want to run installer in GUI mode [y/n] :
n







         Initializing InstallShield Wizard........
         Launching InstallShield Wizard........


Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version
11.50

The InstallShield Wizard will install IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.50
on your computer.
To continue, choose Next.

IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.50
IBM Corporation
http://www.ibm.com


Press 1 for Next, 3 to Cancel or 4 to Redisplay [1]

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Obnoxio The Clown

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Mar 28, 2010, 10:28:12 AM3/28/10
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Sundar Shunmugam wrote:
>
> With new 11.50 fixpacks, we are offering two different Media types for
> Linux.
>
> 1. Regular media, continues to work the same way as all previous fixpacks.
> 2. RPM media, which uses a wrapper installer (.bin file), to copy out
> the RPM based install media.
>
> As far as installation goes, after invoking the . bin file, going
> through installer prompts, it copies out a RPM file.

That's lovely, but can't the mentally enfeebled among just get a
frickin' tarball?

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da...@smooth1.co.uk

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Mar 28, 2010, 2:35:50 PM3/28/10
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root's path should be simple (default for the os), just export
INFORMIXDIR and then run

./installserver -legacy to extract the installation files into an
'old' type folder, cd into there and install as before

I had no problems with 11.50.FC6W1 on RHEL4.

Ian Michael Gumby

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Mar 28, 2010, 6:21:09 PM3/28/10
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Sorry but that's the stupidest thing.
Not the RPM but the shipping of a specific JRE with the install.


But hey unset JAVA_HOME is pretty easy except that you have to probably also remove /usr/bin from your path so you don't pick up /usr/bin/java.

Wouldn't it be easier to require that a version X or later of Java be found and then if you're using RPM, check the RPM repository to see what was installed?

Hmmm, that would be too simple.

Note: This isn't something Gumby thought up. Too many RPM packages are already doing just this.



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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:25:37 -0500
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With new 11.50 fixpacks, we are offering two different Media types for Linux.

1. Regular media, continues to work the same way as all previous fixpacks.
2. RPM media, which uses a wrapper installer (.bin file), to copy out the RPM based install media.

As far as installation goes, after invoking the . bin file, going through installer prompts, it copies out a RPM file.
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