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Informix 4GL to Java Migration Tool and Y2K

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Gustavo Adolfo Murillo Fuentes

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Jun 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/23/98
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Mr. Oscar:

The aclaration is valid, the perspective of this mail is diferent of the
article was i read in a magazine of Costa Rica. In this article the
ArtInSoft company, say other things over Informix, concretely say over this
OBSOLETE tool, problems with Y2K without aclaration over of bad programming
practices, etc. In essence in this article the ArtInSoft company put
importance over the translation Informix--Oracle. Althougt, if your
perspective is diferently from the magazine article, i think what this is a
excellent oportunity to your company for make a excellent news for your
product.

Thanks.
Gustavo Murillo.

Notes: Again, excuse the bad english.

At 11:23 AM 6/23/98 -0500, Oscar Calvo wrote:
>In a recent email, a person from Costa Rica make an indirect
>reference to a technology called "RESCUEStudio: Informix 4GL to JAVA"=20
>developed by ArtInSoft S.A. (www.artinsoft.com).
>
>The provided information is somewhat incomplete and ambiguous.
>We want to state very clearly the following facts about RESCUEStudio:
>
>1. RESCUEStudio automatically migrates INFORMIX 4GL applications
>to the Java(tm) programming language, SWING interfaces, and JDBC
>connectivity. The tool recovers 99% of the original application logic
>and functionality and enables the easy evolution of the application
>by using the Visual Programming, Structure Analysis, and other tools
>available for Java market today.
>
>2. RESCUEStudio can change your database vendor
>from INFORMIX to Oracle (which the currently available version),
>but also could be extended to leave the application working
>against INFORMIX databases.
>
>3. In essence, almost no programming language have the Y2K problem;
>the Y2K problem occurs because of bad programming practices.
>RESCUEStudio tool and our migration services help you detect and
>correct those programming practices.
>
>We believe RESCUEStudio is the only way by which your valuable INFORMIX
>4GL
>applications can be rejuvenated to the latest technologies such as
>browsers,
>multi-tier architecture, Microsoft NT support, and hardware platform
>independence.
>
>If you want more information about our migrations tools and services
>please do not hesitate to contact us at rst...@artinsoft.com or visit
>our web site at http://www.artinsoft.com/rescue.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Oscar Calvo Rodr=EDguez
>RESCUE Product Manager, ArtInSoft
>oca...@artinsoft.com Interlink 256
>+(506) 283-3144 P.O.Box 526770
>FAX: +(506) 283-2655 Miami, FL 33152, U.S.A.
>
>
>
>


Oscar Calvo

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Jun 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/23/98
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Peter Lancashire

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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It all sounds wonderful. But that's a product manager's job. Is there
anyone out there who has used it and still believes it is wonderful? Of
course, it still won't be object-oriented, just in a potentially
object-oriented language.
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Billy Wheeler

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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> At 11:23 AM 6/23/98 -0500, Oscar Calvo wrote:

> >In a recent email, a person from Costa Rica make an indirect
> >reference to a technology called "RESCUEStudio: Informix 4GL to JAVA"

> >developed by ArtInSoft S.A. (www.artinsoft.com).
> >
> >The provided information is somewhat incomplete and ambiguous.
> >We want to state very clearly the following facts about RESCUEStudio:
> >
> >1. RESCUEStudio automatically migrates INFORMIX 4GL applications
> >to the Java(tm) programming language, SWING interfaces, and JDBC
> >connectivity. The tool recovers 99% of the original application logic
> >and functionality and enables the easy evolution of the application
> >by using the Visual Programming, Structure Analysis, and other tools
> >available for Java market today.
> >
> >2. RESCUEStudio can change your database vendor
> >from INFORMIX to Oracle (which the currently available version),
> >but also could be extended to leave the application working
> >against INFORMIX databases.
> >
> >3. In essence, almost no programming language have the Y2K problem;
> >the Y2K problem occurs because of bad programming practices.
> >RESCUEStudio tool and our migration services help you detect and
> >correct those programming practices.
> >
> >We believe RESCUEStudio is the only way by which your valuable INFORMIX
> >4GL
> >applications can be rejuvenated to the latest technologies such as
> >browsers,
> >multi-tier architecture, Microsoft NT support, and hardware platform
> >independence.

The rest is all fine, but I must correct this last point:

4Js, Querix *and* SuperNova all have different (i.e. non-Java)
solutions to many or all of these problems. Also, Informix have
recently licensed 4Js technology and are now offering their own
"Dynamic 4GL" to address some of these issues. These are the vendors
I'm aware of, there might even be more.

All in the interests of general correctness.

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Ciao,
Billy

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Billy Wheeler

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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Nils Myklebust

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:05:08 +0100, Peter Lancashire
<Peter.Lanc...@bayer.co.uk> wrote:

>It all sounds wonderful. But that's a product manager's job. Is there
>anyone out there who has used it and still believes it is wonderful? Of
>course, it still won't be object-oriented, just in a potentially
>object-oriented language.

We are looking at it.
They seem to create a Java class out of every module in your 4GL
source code with every function in that module implemented as methods
in the class. Lately we have written our code in separate modules in
such a way that these classes can actually be usefull. Sometimes we
realy want to instantiate more than one object from these "classes".
That's of course not possible in 4GL (a potentially very interesting
and probably not very hard to do extention of 4GL that someone should
look into). After the code is converted it may not be too hard to use
the classes, possibly with some minor modifications, in a truly object
oriented design.

We haven't realy looked at the GUI part of the product yet. They claim
to construct intelligent classes for that as well, but that remains to
be seen for us. However the code we are most interested in converting
is plain batch oriented programs where even the issue of an object
oriented design isn't all that big.


Nils Myklebust
NM Data AS
Norway
E-mail: Nils.My...@nmdata.com
FAQ at: http://www.iiug.org/techinfo/faq/faq_top.html
(Now with ODBC info under "Third party products".)

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