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Dec 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/4/98
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Oracle, SQL Server, and the Alternatives
Xephon Briefing
10-11 December 1998
Holiday Inn, Kensington, London

http://www.xephon.co.uk


Managing relational data across the enterprise
----------------------------------------------

Most sizable organizations now support several different DBMSs on different
platforms. Should they standardize on a single system? If so, which one? If
not, can the existing databases be integrated, or at least be made to
cooperate?

DB2 is firmly entrenched in the data centre and Oracle is established as the
dominant relational database on open systems platforms, but their boundaries
are by no means fixed. IBM is moving across all platforms with its UDB,
Oracle is establishing itself as a serious challenger in mission-critical
data management with Oracle8; while version 7.0 of
Microsoft's SQL Server represents a new but very serious contender in the
data centre environment.

There are, of course, other alternatives to consider. Sybase, Informix, and
CA-OpenIngres, for example, all have individual strengths and a sizeable
installed base, and their influence within the enterprise should not be
underestimated. There may also be desktop applications based on Access or
Paradox which need to be scaled up for enterprise deployment; while object
or object/relational databases may be the way forward for certain
applications.

There are clearly many players and a broad range of product options to
consider within the heterogeneous database market. Running these systems in
isolation is a challenging enough task; choosing the right 'strategic'
database products, and integrating them with 'legacy' database applications
requires a deeper level of understanding.

Oracle, SQL Server, and the Alternatives is a two-day technical briefing
which examines the issues faced by organizations with multiple database
environments. The event provides a detailed analysis of the integration
issues facing the large enterprise, and considers the strengths and
weaknesses of the leading database products available today.

Researched and presented by
---------------------------

Neale Armstrong
IBM

Des Atkinson
Metron Technology

Dr Akmal Chaudhri
Logica

Kim Dennis
DataMirror

Dr Paul Gretton-Watson
DMR Consulting

Prof Martin Healey
Technology Concepts

Julian Stuhler
Triton Consulting


Key questions answered
----------------------

* What facilities exist on each database platform for Web development?
* How can physical data storage be managed efficiently and what are the new
issues to be considered?
* How can performance problems be identified and solved?
* What are the key design considerations in building applications for
distributed database environments?
* How can potential performance problems be avoided during the application
development process?
* What are the main security issues and how can they be avoided?
* What capacity modelling tools and techniques are available for developers?
* How can the maintainability of complex database systems be improved?
* How can a data warehouse be implemented and managed?
* What are the issues to be considered when replicating data?


Programme topics
----------------

Positioning database products
- Client/server and the RDBMS, stored procedures
- Database in conjunction with TP monitors
- Limitations of SQL, ODBC etc
- Data warehouses and OLAP/ROLAP
- Repositories
- DB2, Oracle, and SQL Server compared

Server packages
- The integrated server suite
- RAnge of server functions
- The AS/400 model
- Microsoft BackOffice and NT
- IBM server packages
- Netscape
- Who will win?

A distributed database (DDB) perspective
- History of distributed databases
- Main technical developments in distributed databases
- Main requirements of DDB users
- Design issues
- Communications issues
- Some examples of DDBs and DDB applications
- Some of the main players

The performance monitoring of Oracle, SQL Server, and Sybase Adaptive
Server - how do they compare?
- What range of performance metrics is available on each RDBMS?
- How are they derived?
- What visual or command line tools are available to access this data?
- How well can the resource usage of individual users/sessions be
identified?
- How well integrated are the RDBMS metrics with operating system level
reporting tools and metrics?
- What are the critical metrics to monitor on each of the RDBMSs?
- Is there a clear leader in terms of the breadth and depth of performance
monitoring data provided and the tools to exploit this data?

Distributed data: propagating and joining IBM and other databases
- Multiple locations, platforms, and suppliers
- Application access to distributed, heterogeneous databases
- Managing different degrees of synchronisation and concurrency
- Achieving the required levels of performance
- Maintaining data integrity

Intranet connectivity - delivering the data
- TCP/IP and network connectivity
- Static versus dynamic pages - the need for database access
- WWW/database connectivity products
IBM DB2/WWW
Oracle WebServer
Sybase web.sql
Informix Web Interface Kit
ISV products
- Implementation issues
- Accessing ODBC

Object database management systems in the enterprise
- Problem statement
- Choices available
- Case studies
- Benchmarks and performance
- An evaluation framework


Objectives
----------

Oracle, SQL Server, and the Alternatives is an update and analysis of key
developments in the database environment. Delegates attending Oracle, SQL
Server, and the Alternatives will gain a clearer understanding of the
evolution and integration of databases across multiple platforms, and will
be able to exploit the relative strengths and weaknesses of different
database systems.

Who should attend?
------------------

Oracle, SQL Server, and the Alternatives is designed for IT managers and
professionals working with RDBMSs, including database managers and
administrators, systems programmers, and technical support managers in user
organizations. Vendors and designers of software products for the database
marketplace should also be represented at Oracle, SQL Server, and the
Alternatives, as should consultants specializing in database technologies.


Chau...@logica.co.ukk

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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"No Name" <blank> posted:

> Path: su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!
> news.gtei.net!news.shore.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!
> join.news.pipex.net!pipex!logica.co.uk!usenet
...................................^^^^^^^^^^^^

Could this be from Akmal Chaudhri's employer, Logica
(logica.co.uk) ??

> From: "No Name" <blank>
.........^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Could this be another pseudonym for Akmal Chaudhri of Logica ??

> Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.databases.sybase,
> comp.databases.ibm-db2,
...^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What really does the quoted article have to do with DB2 ?? The
advertizement promotes ORACLE and MS SQL Server, not "the
Alternatives".

> comp.databases.ms-sqlserver,comp.databases.oracle.server
> Subject: [ADVERT]: Oracle, SQL Server, and the Alternatives
......................^^^^^^..................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Should read "ORACLE" and "options", throughout.

> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:44:36 -0000
> Organization: blank
...^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Put Logica (logica.co.uk) here (see below).

> Lines: 178
> Message-ID: <7493hn$n...@romeo.logica.co.uk>
..........................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

More evidence that Akmal Chaudhri of Logica wrote the quoted
forgery.

NTP-Posting-Host: 158.234.57.56
......................^^^^^^^^^^^^^

From: http://www.ripe.net/db/whois.html :

Whois 158.234.57.56

% Rights restricted by copyright. See
http://www.ripe.net/db/dbcopyright.html

inetnum: 158.234.0.0
netname: LOGICA
descr: Logica International
country: GB
admin-c: Tony Catley
tech-c: Phil Harris
rev-srv: ns.logica.co.uk ns.pipex.net ns.uu.net
changed: t...@pipex.net 930224
source: RIPE

route: 158.234.0.0/16
descr: LOGICA
origin: AS1849
mnt-by: AS1849-MNT
changed: ripe...@ripe.net 941121
source: RIPE

person: Tony Catley
address: Logica International
address: 68 Newman Street
address: London
address: W1A 4SE
address: England, UK
phone: +44 171 637 9111 x 2202
fax-no: +44 171 817 7008
e-mail: cat...@logica.co.uk
nic-hdl: TC216
mnt-by: AS1849-MNT
changed: kev...@pipex.net 950926
source: RIPE

person: Tony Catley
address: Logica International
address: 68 Newman Street
address: London
address: W1A 4SE
address: England, UK
phone: +44 171 637 9111 x 2202
e-mail: cat...@logica.co.uk
mnt-by: AS1849-MNT
changed: kev...@pipex.net 950926
source: RIPE

person: Phil Harris
address: Logica International
address: 68 Newman Street
address: London
address: W1A 4SE
address: England, GB
phone: +44 71 637 9111 x 2230
fax-no: +44 71 637 2191
e-mail: har...@logica.co.uk
changed: t...@pipex.net 930224
source: RIPE

person: Phil Harris
address: Octavian Computer Services
address: 56-58 Parkstone Road
address: Poole, Dorset
address: BH15 2PH
address: United Kingdom
phone: +44 1202 671117
fax-no: +44 1202 666054
nic-hdl: PH421-RIPE
notify: mi...@vnet.ibm.com
changed: mi...@vnet.ibm.com 970122
source: RIPE


Definitive proof that Akmal Chaudhri of Logica wrote the quoted
rank pabulum.

>
> Oracle, SQL Server, and the Alternatives
>
> Xephon Briefing
> 10-11 December 1998
> Holiday Inn, Kensington, London

...


>
> Managing relational data across the enterprise
> ----------------------------------------------
>

...


> DB2 is firmly entrenched in the data centre and Oracle is
> established as the
> dominant relational database on open systems platforms, but
> their boundaries
> are by no means fixed. IBM is moving across all platforms with

> its UDB,
> Oracle is establishing itself as a serious challenger in
> mission-critical
> data management with Oracle8; while version 7.0 of
> Microsoft's SQL Server represents a new but very serious
> contender in the
> data centre environment.
>

What is not stated above is that there is no competition and that
the topic should be "How DB2 runs away from the competition".

Recent controlled tests show that:

1. DB2 UDB 5.2 is about 12-times faster than Personal ORACLE 7.2;

2. DB2 UDB 5.2 is about 28-times faster than Microsoft SQL Server
7.0; and

3. Personal ORACLE 7.2 is about 2-times faster than Microsoft SQL
Server 7.0.

That makes it extremely unlikely that Ellison's bogus Comdex bet
will win, which spawned the new buzz-words of vapor-bet and
vapor-performance.

...


> Researched and presented by
> ---------------------------
>
> Neale Armstrong

...^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> IBM
...^^^

Please someone from IBM UK (or IBM USA), post who Neale Armstrong
really is, and if on IBM company time he really had anything to
do with the outrageous quoted ad from Akmal Chaudhri of Logica.

>
> Des Atkinson
> Metron Technology
>
> Dr Akmal Chaudhri

...^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Logica
...^^^^^^

Here we go again for Akmal Chaudhri of Logica, and don't forget
the "Dr" part.

>
> Kim Dennis
> DataMirror
>
> Dr Paul Gretton-Watson
> DMR Consulting
>
> Prof Martin Healey
> Technology Concepts
>
> Julian Stuhler
> Triton Consulting
>

All total unknowns, at least across the pond in the US.

>
...
>
> Programme topics
> ----------------


> Server packages
> - The integrated server suite
> - RAnge of server functions
> - The AS/400 model
> - Microsoft BackOffice and NT
> - IBM server packages
> - Netscape

....^^^^^^^^

What? So Netscape is now a server? Has Akmal Chaudhri of Logica
totally lost his mind?

> - Who will win?

Who will win is IBM R6000 nodes -- not mentioned above -- which
can be chained together almost infinitely for almost infinite
processing power (say good bye to N-Cube, Larry).

...

> The performance monitoring of Oracle, SQL Server, and Sybase
> Adaptive Server - how do they compare?

Notice that DB2 is not mentioned here.

...
>
> Who should attend?
> ------------------

No one will attend, obviously.

Boycott any and all presentations by false academician and
internet forger Akmal Chaudhri of Logica.

No Name

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Dec 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/7/98
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This is a one-off on which I'll comment. The posting is indeed by me (Akmal
B. Chaudhri). Normally, I include my signature on postings (those who read
comp.databases.object can confirm). Anyone that wishes to check can do a
search for me at dejanews.

Unfortunately, I work in an environment where machines are not configured in
a standard way, so didn't check the set-up for the machine from which I
posted (I'm posting from the same one - so it will print the same username,
etc.).

It is clearly obvious that someone has taken extreme displeasure form this
posting (and have themselves attempted to cover their tracks as the header
below clearly shows - again people can check at dejanews).

As for false academician - details of my research, previous presentations,
etc. - can be checked at the following web site:

http://www.soi.city.ac.uk/~akmal/

Make-up your own mind and draw your own conclusions.

Thank you for allowing me bandwidth.

Regards,

akmal

--
email: akmal(at)bigfoot(dot)com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~akmal/


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