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Jay Greenfield

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Apr 8, 2003, 7:36:44 PM4/8/03
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I can't find the that contains the inane 'THRU ALL' variable used in hole
callouts so I can edit it to just say 'THRU'. One .dll came up in a search
but I'm hoping that the solution to this problem isn't replacing it manually
every time I use a hole callout...anyone else get around this yet?

Jay Greenfield
Machine Designer
Carlsbad, California


Dale Dunn

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Apr 8, 2003, 8:49:00 PM4/8/03
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"Jay Greenfield" <jgr...@adelphia.net> wrote in
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Search for calloutformat.txt and calloutformat_2.txt in the install
directory. Search the help for that too to get some important information.


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Dale Dunn
Design Engineer
www.jamestool.com

Jay Greenfield

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Apr 8, 2003, 11:21:38 PM4/8/03
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I looked at that file and the sister, less grownup file (calloutformat.txt)
too but it didn't look like you could edit the actual value for hw-holedepth
(or whatever it's called). I'll look more closely tomorrow...

Jay
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Jim Sculley

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Apr 9, 2003, 7:56:18 AM4/9/03
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Jay Greenfield wrote:
> I looked at that file and the sister, less grownup file (calloutformat.txt)
> too but it didn't look like you could edit the actual value for hw-holedepth
> (or whatever it's called). I'll look more closely tomorrow...

It's not there. Perhaps it is in the mdb files.

Jim S.

Chris Angevine

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Apr 9, 2003, 5:30:46 PM4/9/03
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I've been trying to change the THRU ALL as well, with no success. If
you happen to get an answer, please let me know. I tried changing the
calloutformat.txt file. I replaced the <hw-thru> with THRU. No luck.

Dale Dunn

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Apr 9, 2003, 6:09:34 PM4/9/03
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"Jay Greenfield" <jgr...@adelphia.net> wrote in
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> I looked at that file and the sister, less grownup file
> (calloutformat.txt) too but it didn't look like you could edit the
> actual value for hw-holedepth (or whatever it's called). I'll look
> more closely tomorrow...

Ah. Those I don't know how to edit.

cupaday

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Apr 9, 2003, 7:25:17 PM4/9/03
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Dale Dunn wrote:
> "Jay Greenfield" <jgr...@adelphia.net> wrote in
> news:6lMka.3193$mH.9...@news3.news.adelphia.net:
>
>
>>I looked at that file and the sister, less grownup file
>>(calloutformat.txt) too but it didn't look like you could edit the
>>actual value for hw-holedepth (or whatever it's called). I'll look
>>more closely tomorrow...
>
>
> Ah. Those I don't know how to edit.
>

And run replace 'THRU ALL' with 'THRU'

Chris Angevine

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Apr 10, 2003, 9:39:10 AM4/10/03
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I figured out how to change the 'THRU ALL' callout to 'THRU. The file
that needs to be modified is calloutformat.txt. The file is broken up
into sections; COUNTERBORED HOLES, PLAIN HOLES, etc. Below is a sample
for the plain hole callout. The "<hw-thru>" variable is what puts in
the "THRU ALL" comment.

** PLAIN HOLES **

HOLE-THRU=;<MOD-DIAM> <hw-diam> <hw-thru>
*with farside csink*

Just replace that variable with the word 'THRU' as shown below.

** PLAIN HOLES **

HOLE-THRU=;<MOD-DIAM> <hw-diam> THRU
*with farside csink*

This will work for almost all the hole callouts throughout the file.
The only screwy one is for the tapped thru callout. Below is a sample
from that section.

** TAPPED HOLES **

*with cosmetic thread*
TAP-DRILLTHRU(ct)=<MOD-DIAM> <hw-tapdrldia> <hw-thru>;\
<hw-threaddesc> - 2B <HOLE-DEPTH> <hw-threaddepth>

Here you change the tap drill callout to THRU just like the previous
example. But the thread description will still come thru with 'THRU
ALL'. The way around that is to change the '<HOLE-DEPTH>
<hw-threaddepth>' to 'THRU' as shown below.

** TAPPED HOLES **

*with cosmetic thread*
TAP-DRILLTHRU(ct)=<MOD-DIAM> <hw-tapdrldia> THRU;\
<hw-threaddesc> - 2B THRU

Using Find and Replace throughout this file makes it go quick. Make a
backup of this file first.
Good Luck

Jay Greenfield

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Apr 10, 2003, 9:07:32 PM4/10/03
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Perfect! I didn't stop to think that if it was always going to say 'THRU',
then it didn't have to be a variable anymore! Doh! I can't wait to get to
work and ix this thing!

Jay


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Andrew Rodgers

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Apr 15, 2003, 3:46:15 PM4/15/03
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In message <b7123...@enews3.newsguy.com>, Jim Sculley
<nic...@wisdomteeth.tlanta.com> writes

>
>It's not there. Perhaps it is in the mdb files.
>
>Jim S.
>
Right, I have searched my drives for "calloutformat.txt" and not located
it.
SW2001+ SP0
Is this a new feature?
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Andy Rodgers

Dave H

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Apr 16, 2003, 8:35:24 AM4/16/03
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It's new to 2003. It works in conjunction with much improved hole callouts
in drawings.

Dave H

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Doug Dorton

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Apr 17, 2003, 11:18:15 AM4/17/03
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Jay,
It took me a minute to understand your complaint.
I'm using SW2003 and I've never had my hole call-outs indicate 'THRU
ALL.' They always come out as 'THRU.'
It seems that when you use Hole Wizard, if you select the 'End
Condition & Depth' as 'Through All,' then you get 'THRU ALL' as your
call-out. If you select 'Up To Next' as the 'End Condition & Depth'
you get 'THRU' as your call-out. I alway select 'Up To Next' and alway
get 'THRU.'
Could this be a simple solution to the 'THRU ALL' vs. 'THRU' problem?
Hope this helps,
Doug


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Jerry Steiger

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Apr 17, 2003, 3:50:48 PM4/17/03
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> If you select 'Up To Next' as the 'End Condition &
Depth'
> you get 'THRU' as your call-out. I alway select 'Up To Next' and alway
> get 'THRU.'

Doug,

I recall reading in this group quite some time ago that "Up to Next" is much
slower than "Through All" or "Blind" or "Up to Surface", since the software
has to search the whole part to find the next surface. Seems like you could
take a pretty significant hit if you have a lot of through holes with
callouts.

It would be nice if SW would just fix the silly callout.

Jerry Steiger
At Work Computers


Jay Greenfield

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Apr 17, 2003, 9:36:47 PM4/17/03
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I did edit the callout file to change the thru all variable to just say THRU
and that has fixed everything. It WOULD be nice if it was worded properly to
begin with, though maybe THROUGH ALL will become a new standard...

Jay

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