Disappearing details/lines!!!!!!!

[Ray L. Nicoli]

Occasionally when working in a drawing, the object lines disappear. The
dimension lines are still visible. The visible and hidden lines do not
print and do not show on the monitor. The mouse recognizes that lines
exist, the lines are just not visible. Right clicking to show or hide lines
does not fix the problem.
Any Ideas?

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Thanks
Ray L. Nicoli
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[S. Baugh]

Sounds like a video card problem! Post your computer hardware and SP.

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[Leonard Hursh (Escofab)]

I've occasionally had this problem as well, but have yet to find a cure.

SW2000 sp10
Win 2000
3dLabs VX1

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Leonard Hursh
Escofab Inc.

"Ray L. Nicoli" <rni...@SPAMBLOCKiddaerospacecorp.com> wrote in message
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[Fred Kemp]

I've had the same problem. If you change the section line slightly (e.g.,
by lengthening or shortening it a little), in the case of a section or the
diameter of the circle slightly, in the case of a detail view, the offending
drawing will redraw as advertised. This does not solve the underlying problem -
whatever that may be - but it is a good work around.

Good luck!

[Edward Eaton]

Just out of curiosity... is this an assembly? And if you do an interference
detection on the assembly, does it turn out that you have some interference?
What you have described is a classic example of the behavior of a drawing of
an assembly with parts that project into each other.

trivia note - this problem will even occur if the interfering part is
hidden. The interfering part needs to be corrected or suppressed to prevent
the line-drop problem.
good luck
-ed

"Ray L. Nicoli" <rni...@SPAMBLOCKiddaerospacecorp.com> wrote in message
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[kellne...@my-deja.com]

Hidden or suppressed and you can get this kind of problem. I think they
need to fix this. Interference is a normal and correct thing in many
kinds of assemblies. Wonder why they haven't clued in on this yet?

In article <h9b56.54982$Y6.12...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>,

[Michael Winter]

I have also had this problem, try pressing the control and Q buttons on the
keyboard at the same time, this usually works for me.

Ray L. Nicoli <rni...@SPAMBLOCKiddaerospacecorp.com> wrote in message
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[jake7...@my-deja.com]

In article <0YJ66.16426$B11.2...@monolith.news.easynet.net>,

"Michael Winter" <m...@zoom.co.uk> wrote:
> I have also had this problem, try pressing the control and Q buttons
on the
> keyboard at the same time, this usually works for me.

What does Crtl+Q do?
I often have this problem, and I'm very Frustrated by it.

[S. Baugh]

A force rebuild. From my understanding it rebuilds from the very
beginning of the part or assembly.

[tme...@my-deja.com]

Ray:

This probably is not your problem but I'll mention it anyway. Make
sure that your line color is not the same as the background color. If
it is then go to:

>options
>view system defaults
>wireframe/hlr
>edit
"choose a non background color"
ok

I replicated half your problem. I got the line to dissapear but when I
printed the drw it all printed out ok.

good luck
tony

In article <3a534...@news.foxinternet.com>,

[jake]

My problem is very frustrating....
Take two square blocks (3x3x1) mate them together in an assembly.
Create a circular hole thru one of the blocks.
Make a drawing of the assembly, create a section thru the circular hole.
The line representing the hole where the two blocks are mated will
disappear?!?

Please, If you can reproduce this problem, is it a BUG?
Thank You

[tme...@my-deja.com]

How is the hole orientated in that one block? Is its axis perpendicular
or parallel to the block?

In article <93idbq$b7h$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

[jake]

In article <93ijof$hfa$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

tme...@my-deja.com wrote:
> How is the hole orientated in that one block? Is its axis
perpendicular
> or parallel to the block?
>

The axis is perpendicular to the mating surfaces

[Jerry Steiger]

"jake" <jake7...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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I can't reproduce it. I get exactly what I would expect. I tried it by
putting the hole in the block first, and also as an assembly feature.The two
blocks are mated on one of the 3x3 surfaces. The hole goes through the
center of the 3x3 faces on one block. The section line is parallel to a 1x3
surface, through the center of the hole.

Jerry Steiger

[tme...@my-deja.com]

I couldn't reproduce the problem either. I did the same thing that
Jerry did both ways. My section is perpendicular to the (3inch wall).
(along the axis of the hole). I couldn't tell you why it's not working
for you.

In article <3a534...@news.foxinternet.com>,
"Ray L. Nicoli" <rni...@SPAMBLOCKiddaerospacecorp.com> wrote:

[Don Jackson]

I get the same results as Jerry did.

NT 4.0 SP5
SW2000 SP10
Dell Precision 410
PII 750Mhz
1Gb Ram
GVX 420 Video
8GB SCSI drive

Don Jackson

[Chen Gingold]

Ray, be sure to set wireframe to custom high under
tools->options->document properties->image quality
and set black and white under file->page setup->drawing color

[jake]

My problem demonstrated by SolidWorks Instant Website...
http://www.3diw.com/login.asp?u=f40d32cf6&f=Assem15469
password: guest

Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks

[Jerry Steiger]

"jake" <jake7...@my-deja.com> wrote in message

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>
>
>
> My problem demonstrated by SolidWorks Instant Website...
> http://www.3diw.com/login.asp?u=f40d32cf6&f=Assem15469
> password: guest
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful.
> Thanks

Jake,

That's exactly what I expected to see from your description, and I finally
found a way to get something like it. After making the drawing, I changed
which part had the hole in it. Now the drawing is confused and looks like
yours. Regenerating the assembly doesn't fix the drawing.

Could that be how your drawing got messed up?

Jerry Steiger

[jake]

> That's exactly what I expected to see from your description, and I
finally
> found a way to get something like it. After making the drawing, I
changed
> which part had the hole in it. Now the drawing is confused and looks
like
> yours. Regenerating the assembly doesn't fix the drawing.
>
> Could that be how your drawing got messed up?
>
> Jerry Steiger
>

My example is quite simple compared to the drawings I create in SW2000.
These drawings will contain from 20 to over 100 components.
I will export them into ACAD to "FIX" them up. Before I send them out
for production because the lines that are missing will not print or
export into DXF or DWG.

I'm using:
PII 450 mhz
384MB RAM
WinNT 4.0 SP5
SW2000 sp10
Accell Graphics Accell Star 8 II (8megs)

Thanks for your input
Jake

[Janos]

Hi,
Did anyone hit his/her head into this?
Working on medium size assemblies (project approx. 200 MB) and having some
15 files open at the same time, from a time onwards (say 1 1/2 hours plus)
SolidWorks (or Windows?) starts to make mistakes: if I want to go to a
given open file, I go to Windows/"More files"/Filename - and SolidWorks
opens something else, not the requested file. This is one of my lovely
pre-warning signes: if I am not cautious, and try to close SolidWorks
itself, it crashes. If I do not take care of the pre-warning sign, SW
crashes in 5-10 minutes anyhow. The only way out is to close the open files
one after the other (and if I am lucky SW does not crash during this
procedure). Then I close SW itself and usually restart the computer.
This is _not_ computer-specific, this is happening all the way along on
three different machines (all NT 4 6a, SW 2000 Sp 10, 512-768 MB RAM, ASUS
CU4VX, 2 SCSI-s and 1 ATA 66, 2 VX1-s and one Elsa Gloria II) - and I have
already seen the same happening in SW2k1.

Anyone else...?

Regards:
Janos

[Peter Duennebeil]

Hello

unfortunately we have trouble with Solidworks 2000 and 2001.

SolidWorks abends when I try to load drawings from a network drive and
then I get a "blue screen". Loading drawings from local drive C: works
fine.
The network seems to be fine and there are no problems with other
applications (ME10, SolidDesigner, AutoCAD, MS-Office...). We can copy
large files without any error from and to the network.

What could be wrong?

DELL Dimension 4100 PIII 866 MHz, 128 MB RAM NVIDIA 4xAGP
Novell NetWare 5.1 SP2a, NetWare Client 3.21 P1 (German)

Has anyone encountered this and is there an easy fix? Thanks in
advance.

Peter Duennebeil

[Janos]

Peter,
we have had problems on the network (NT) - SolidWorks sometimes crashes and
can not even be started under circumstances. The culprit was in this case
the user profile. We deleted and re-created and it works fine now. My VAR
helped in this issue.

Regards:
Janos

[msm]

Janos,

Now that you mention it, your crashing could be caused by network problems.,
SWX requires a pristine connection if you are loading and saving your work
over the network. SWX is constantly querying open files. A corrupted or
dropped packet can cause the program to lock up, behave strangely, or error
out (Dr W.). I found this to be the problem with a couple of machines we
have that were connected to the same hub. The symptoms were very much like
the ones you describe. It took alot of trial and error to isolate this
phenomenon.

A quick way to check is to open the assembly, do a "file, find referances,
copy" and copy all of the files locally. Just drag and drop copying from
explorer won't work because all of the network paths are imbeded in the
assemblies. Using this method strips all of the files of external (external
to the folder in which they were copied) referances. Work on the assembly
from this local folder and see if it does the same thing.

We'll be getting Win2000 Server pretty soon. It's supposed to have some
built in utillities that help track these spooky problems

Regards

Mark

Janos wrote in message <3AA3F29A...@oznet.net.au>...

[Janos]

Mark,

msm wrote:
>
> Janos,
>
> Now that you mention it, your crashing could be caused by network problems.,
> SWX requires a pristine connection if you are loading and saving your work
> over the network.

We are working on a network, but not from a network. Ie. I am backing up to
the network drive and have access to some other resources on it but that's
all. We strictly work from the local drive. This is what I am suggesting to
other guys working on AutoCAd as well but they tend not to listen and they
have a continuous struggle with all sorts of problems.

>SWX is constantly querying open files. A corrupted or
> dropped packet can cause the program to lock up, behave strangely, or error
> out (Dr W.). I found this to be the problem with a couple of machines we
> have that were connected to the same hub. The symptoms were very much like
> the ones you describe. It took alot of trial and error to isolate this
> phenomenon.

The problem we were stuggling with was that SolidWorks itself crashed (and
then did not even start) because of this user profile problem. As it
happened and also before it we worked as described in the previous
paragraph, strictly from the local drive.

>
> A quick way to check is to open the assembly, do a "file, find referances,
> copy" and copy all of the files locally. Just drag and drop copying from
> explorer won't work because all of the network paths are imbeded in the
> assemblies. Using this method strips all of the files of external (external
> to the folder in which they were copied) referances. Work on the assembly
> from this local folder and see if it does the same thing.

We are working on big assemblies (220+ MB). For backup we ZIP the project
(size down to 35-75 MB) and only the zipped project is backed up on the
network drive and afterwards on CD's.

>
> We'll be getting Win2000 Server pretty soon. It's supposed to have some
> built in utillities that help track these spooky problems

I am a bit afraidd of using W2k as yet - probably in a year tie or so I
will make an attempt.

Thanks for your feedback.

Regards:
Janos