The First No Bullshit Blog Devoted To Telling The Truth About Both CAD And CAM
jon_banquer
know jack shit about manufacturing or the tools really needed in a
CADCAM system?
Tired of SolidWorks bloggers who only start talking about better
technology when Siemens/UGS makes it beyond obvious that SolidWorks is
far behind the technology curve.
Tired of Franco Folini's / Novedge agenda of getting people to buy the
software he sells by pretending to do real interviews?
Love Deelip Menezes fresh approach but realize he's not going to
offend lying scumbags like Alibre's Greg Milliken by pointing out how
Alibre's CEO Greg Milliken lies like a rug?
Love upFront.eZine and WorldCAD Access but want a harder edge?
Wish Paul Salvador's "Surfs Up" published more and went further?
Tired of the clique that runs E-Mastercam that won't allow honest
discussion of Mastercam? That would be James Meyette, John Paris and
Dave Thompson.
Tired of the jackasses who run Practically Worthless Machinist?
Tired of the ads on CNC Zone and an owner who is a whore and will do
anything to not offend advertisers?
Tired of the hype of OneCNC and BobCRAP?
Tired of the McNeel not getting the importance of mechanical CAD and
the clique on their newsgroup?
Tired of idiot CADCAM users who don't have a fucking clue?
Realize that SolidWorks is in deep shit and has lost touch with the
tools that are really needed and that Siemens/UGS announced last
week?
Wish you had a better choice than Mastercam or SolidWorks?
Now you have a choice:
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/
Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
madcadman
that he is a CNC Machinist / CNC programmer!!!
Hey banquer, I thought you pimped this worthless tripe blog as a "no bs"
blog. You're a pathetic jackass.
"jon_banquer" <jon_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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jon_banquer
CarCr...@gmail.com
> Jon Banquer
> San Diego, CA
jon_banquer
jon_banquer
madcadman
> Tired of jon banquer's never ending bullshit and realize he doesn't
> know jack shit about manufacturing or the tools really needed in a
> CADCAM system?
> Tired of jon banquer pretending to be a blogger who only starts talking
> about better
> technology when Siemens/UGS makes it beyond obvious that jon banquer is
> far behind the technology curve and is a total jackass.
> Tired of jon banquer's agenda of getting people to buy the
> software he pimps by pretending to use real software?
> Love cliffy's fresh approach but realize he's not going to
> offend lying scumbags like jon banquer by pointing out how
> jon lies like a rug?
> Love alt.machines.cnc but want a harder edge?
> Wish jon banquer would stfu?
> Tired of the idiot jon banquer?
> Tired of the jackasses jon banquer and his gay lover cliffy ?
> Tired banquer and his ex wife who is a whore and will do
> anything ?
> Tired of the hype of jon banquer?
> Tired of jon banquer not getting the importance of mechanical CAD and
> everything else of worth on this newsgroup?
> Tired of idiot jon banquer who doesn't have a fucking clue?
> Realize that SolidWorks is totally awesome and jon has lost touch with the
> tools that are really needed and that jon has no clue?
> Wish you had a better choice than jonny or cliffy?
> Now you have a choice:
> http://jonbanquer-is-a-jackass.blogspot.com/
madcadman
> Tired of jon banquer's never ending bullshit and realize he doesn't
> know jack shit about manufacturing or the tools really needed in a
> CADCAM system?
> Tired of jon banquer pretending to be a blogger who only starts talking
> about better
> technology when Siemens/UGS makes it beyond obvious that jon banquer is
> far behind the technology curve and is a total jackass.
> Tired of jon banquer's agenda of getting people to buy the
> software he pimps by pretending to use real software?
> Love cliffy's fresh approach but realize he's not going to
> offend lying scumbags like jon banquer by pointing out how
> jon lies like a rug?
> Love alt.machines.cnc but want a harder edge?
> Wish jon banquer would stfu?
> Tired of the idiot jon banquer?
> Tired of the jackasses jon banquer and his gay lover cliffy ?
> Tired banquer and his ex wife who is a whore and will do
> anything ?
> Tired of the hype of jon banquer?
> Tired of jon banquer not getting the importance of mechanical CAD and
> everything else of worth on this newsgroup?
> Tired of idiot jon banquer who doesn't have a fucking clue?
> Realize that SolidWorks is totally awesome and jon has lost touch with the
> tools that are really needed and that jon has no clue?
> Wish you had a better choice than jonny or cliffy?
> Now you have a choice:
> http://jonbanquer-is-a-jackass.blogspot.com/
jon_banquer
know jack shit about manufacturing or the tools really needed in a
CADCAM system?
Tired of SolidWorks bloggers who only start talking about better
technology when Siemens/UGS makes it beyond obvious that SolidWorks is
far behind the technology curve.
Tired of Franco Folini's / Novedge agenda of getting people to buy the
software he sells by pretending to do real interviews?
Love Deelip Menezes fresh approach but realize he's not going to
offend lying scumbags like Alibre's Greg Milliken by pointing out how
Alibre's CEO Greg Milliken lies like a rug?
Love upFront.eZine and WorldCAD Access but want a harder edge?
Wish Paul Salvador's "Surfs Up" published more and went further?
Tired of the clique that runs E-Mastercam that won't allow honest
discussion of Mastercam? That would be James Meyette, John Paris and
Dave Thompson.
Tired of the jackasses who run Practically Worthless Machinist?
Tired of the ads on CNC Zone and an owner who is a whore and will do
anything to not offend advertisers?
Tired of the hype of OneCNC and BobCRAP?
Tired of the McNeel not getting the importance of mechanical CAD and
the clique on their newsgroup?
Tired of idiot CADCAM users who don't have a fucking clue?
Realize that SolidWorks is in deep shit and has lost touch with the
tools that are really needed and that Siemens/UGS announced last
week?
Wish you had a better choice than Mastercam or SolidWorks?
Now you have a choice:
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/
jon.b...@gmail.com
Just wait and see....I'll be the #1 blogger too.
I've started writing my own line of books too.
I'm using Abode to publish, just like the commericals on TV.
Once I get the demo I can help Adobe improve their products too.
My line of books will be the BS line.
Our motto is to provide more BS than we could make up.
Remember to contact my company if you need your CAD models changed to
match your machined parts.
Our company can make your models match every time.
http://jonbsbanquer.blogspot.com/
Joe788
What happened Jon? Got tired of your "published" comments being
deleted by "reputable" bloggers.
Perhaps your time would be better spent *learning* the software you're
blogging about?
Steve Mackay
<SNIP>
John, please stop spamming us. We get the hint. You've got a blog.
Cliff
wrote:
>Tired of Matt Lombard's never ending bullshit
He nailed you as utterly clueless ("my instructions don’t take shit-for-brains
into account"):
http://dezignstuff.com/blog/2007/07/26/back-to-the-grindstone-sw08-bible/trackback/
[
***Editor’s note: I have decided to put all of Jon Banquer’s comments together,
because I want them to be easy to skip over. They’re still here, but they won’t
show up in the comments list on the right. This is mainly to avoid the problems
Jon creates where ever he goes. Most of what he posts is either factually or
conceptually incorrect. Here and there he makes a mistake and says something
that makes sense. Simple mistake, anyone could do it. I will still simply delete
any comments which are solely intended to be inflammatory.
Page 174, Tutorial: Making A Simple Drawing. For 2/3 of the page one is still
working with an assembly.
You should mention that when you start “Tutorial: Making A Simple Drawing” that
you need to switch to the part rather than stay in the assembly.
This becomes a problem when the reader has to do the section view on page 179.
****I’m sorry you had difficulty with this, but my instructions don’t take
shit-for-brains into account. Maybe you should stick to the SolidWorks for
Dummies book, or the new version called SolidWorks for ShitForBrains. It uses
small words and big type.
The picture quality in the SolidWorks Bible is often so bad you have to really
struggle to make out the fillet previews. Examples of very difficult to see
fillet previews can be found on page 234 and 246.
***This is actually valid. I’m surprised. It’s one of my disappointments too.
Unfortunately this is mostly about the publisher.
The chapter on modeling with Multibodies should appear much sooner than chapter
26!
In my opinion Multibodies should most certainly appear before Organizing
Assemblies (chapter 12).
Perhaps a good place to introduce Multibodies might be chapter 8.
***Nope. It’s good where it is. People need to know about assemblies before
multibodies. There should be no confusion. This is why they call you clueless,
isn’t it?
]
--
Cliff
jon.b...@gmail.com
barn_...@excite.com
Wow...there was a time when you were only "published". Now I guess
you're a "book author". Blog....book....book....blog. Whats the
difference.
jonnie hemingway....MY HERO. u sure are one funny lil dude.
Keep me smilin ol' buddy
YourPalBarn
Cliff
>> Now you have a choice:
>
>
>> http://jonbanquer-is-a-jackass.blogspot.com/
LOL ....
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>never ending bullshit
"JON BANQUER"
LOL
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>Tired of idiot CADCAM users who don't have a fucking clue?
Sad to hear that you are moving.
Do keep in touch from time to time !!!!
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>Wish you had a better choice than Mastercam or SolidWorks?
>
>Now you have a choice:
>
>http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/
And what, exactly, are you selling that is a "better choice than Mastercam"
and/or a "better choice than SolidWorks"?
A "better choice" for WHAT, *exactly*? WHY?
Have YOU ever actually *used* any of it? For WHAT?
Not AFAIK.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Perhaps your time would be better spent *learning* the software you're
>blogging about?
What a clever idea !!!!
But it counts as a free clue.
Not that such have ever done any good in the past.
--
Cliff
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
discussion of Mastercam? That would be James Meyette, John Paris and
Dave Thompson."
Jon, Jon, Jon... You're just pissed because every reputable user's
forum has shown you the door (and for good reason too). NOBODY in
eMastercam minds constructive criticism of the software, functions,
lack of functions, etc... It's the mindless drivel you have been
spouting for the last 15 years or more that pisses people off. Your
unceasing rants about "graphical toolpath editing" were just
ridiculous efforts to garner attention to yourself and your lame
cause. Jon, "graphical toolpath editing" is nothing more than a
coverup for ineffictive machining routines, get over it.
The reason eMastercam is so successful at helping users because we
don't put up with the kind crap you slather up in spades. We value
honesty, integrity, constructive criticism and contribution. We don't
support software pirates. If that makes me one of the leaders of the
"clique" so be it. It's a worthwhile online community and I don;t want
to see it degenerate into someting like alt.machines.cnc where
people's dirty laundry gets arired.
The ONLY reason you started this blog is because people are seriously
tired of your idiotic rants on CAD/CAM. The reason nobody at at
SolidWorks, OneCNC, GibbsCAM, CNC Software, etc... ad infinitum
listens to you is because you have nothing meaningful to say or
contribute regarding CAD/CAM/CAE/PLM, etc... So get over yourself and
find a new hobby like SOFTWARE DEVELOPEMENT since you know so much.
Cliff
>The ONLY
Hi, James.
Long time since you've posted IIRC.
Nice to see you are still about & kicking.
--
Cliff
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:01:41 -0700 (PDT), jmeye...@mastercam-cadcam.com wrote:
> >The ONLY
>
> Hi, James.
> Long time since you've posted IIRC.
> Nice to see you are still about & kicking.
> --
> Cliff
Yes, alive. Kicking, yes, usually kicking fools out of eMastercam
since we're just a bunch of fanbois anyway. LOL
I see you're still smaking Jon around. <grin> Good job, you guys
smacked him so hard he landed in eMastercam. LOL, but alas, he just
could not behave in a civil manner so we had to ban him. So sad... he
has such a wealth of knowledge... ROFLMAO
How you doing Cliff?
Cliff
>On May 12, 12:07 pm, Cliff <Clhupr...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:01:41 -0700 (PDT), jmeye...@mastercam-cadcam.com wrote:
>> >The ONLY
>>
>> Hi, James.
>> Long time since you've posted IIRC.
>> Nice to see you are still about & kicking.
>Yes, alive. Kicking, yes, usually kicking fools out of eMastercam
>since we're just a bunch of fanbois anyway. LOL
I gathered that only two had been banned there over all of
time. Perhaps both jb?
Watched jb get asked for proof he was a legal user & saw his
BS replies (or the start of them, anyway) <G>.
Then his clueless posts vanished in a puff or purple smoke IIRC ... LOL ...
I probably just missed his more coloured prose by a few hours.
>I see you're still smaking Jon around. <grin>
He's funny & I'm probably his sole remaining fan.
>Good job, you guys
>smacked him so hard he landed in eMastercam.
Sorry about that. Keep him busy & he has little time ...
so much for that plan <shrug>.
Not that force-feeding him clues ever did any good either.
Not with his private language (made up in his head) from
guessing at what the ads are about.
>LOL, but alas, he just
>could not behave in a civil manner so we had to ban him.
He's made some rather tasteless dumps on Usenet too.
As usual.
>So sad... he
>has such a wealth of knowledge... ROFLMAO
Yep. All sorts of beginner's problems attract him just like
flypaper. He sees some newbie posting someplace & copies
the whine as his own most of the time I think.
Latest really good one was a few days ago ... he wanted
MasterCAM to automatically "link"/select the active WCS to
whatever view he was looking at.
Before that he had the WCS & "fixture offsets" confused. Thinks
they are the same thing. He'd seen a brief on-line training video
demonstrating something else ....
Lots of other good stuff too <VBG>.
But he can always "solve" his problems by rebooting,
as he advises others to do.
It's (Buzz)Word salad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
all over again.
>How you doing Cliff?
Not much change. See you are near Los Angeles.
Beware; jb has moved to the San Diego area (in case
you did not already know).
--
Cliff
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
Actually Cliff, I'm an AE for a Machine Tool Dealer in SoCal and
believe it or not, Jon was actually one of my customers for about a
month or so (perhaps longer - not sure when he actually started where
he was at). Didn't end up staying too long after we had spoken a few
times on the phone for whatever reason. Had some good intelligent
questions for a change. I was able to provide some useful information
to him. He uncovered a bug in Fanuc's Manual Guide-i that I was
unaware of (but that the builder in question was aware of) Regardless
of my personal feelings towards him and his opinions, I treated him
like I treat every other customer; with class, respect, dignity and
"go the extra mile".
"Latest really good one was a few days ago ... he wanted MasterCAM to
automatically "link"/select the active WCS to whatever > view he was
looking at."
YIKES!!!!! I'm SOOOOOO glad CNC does not listen to him! That could be
catastrophic.
"I gathered that only two had been banned there over all of time.
Perhaps oth jb?"
IIRC, there have been 5 or 6 bans total.. JB 2x, Kuei (sp?) 2x, and
some guys named "mult-ax" (i believe) 2x as well. For over 8 years,
over 380,000 posts, and over 20,300 registered members, that's pretty
remarkable really. It's a testament to the quality of it's membership
IMHO. Yeah we get a little out of hand on occasion on the Off Topic
area, but by and large, it's a great group of users with a WIDE
variety of skillsets.
"Buzz Word Salad"... WOW!!! Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!!! Can I use that???
ROFL!!!! That's a VERY good observation.
Cliff
>"Buzz Word Salad"... WOW!!! Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!!! Can I use that???
>ROFL!!!! That's a VERY good observation.
Feel free to use <G>.
[
I expect that an advanced form of an MRI scan would be interesting.
http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/schiz.brain.htm
[
UCLA brain researchers using a powerful new technique have created the first
images showing the devastating impact of schizophrenia on the brain. The
findings, published in the Sept. 25 issue of the Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences*, show how a dynamic wave of tissue loss engulfs the brains
of schizophrenic patients in their teen-age years.
The findings may have key diagnostic implications. Aided by a better
understanding of how psychosis develops, researchers can detect aberrant loss
early and treat patients as early as possible. Future medications might fight
the rapid loss of brain tissue, and their effectiveness could be assessed using
the imaging technique.
"This is the first study to visualize how schizophrenia develops in the brain,"
said Paul Thompson, an assistant professor of neurology at the UCLA School of
Medicine and the study's chief investigator. "Scientists have been perplexed
about how schizophrenia progresses and whether there are any physical changes in
the brain. We were stunned to see a spreading wave of tissue loss that began in
a small region of the brain. It moved across the brain like a forest fire,
destroying more tissue as the disease progressed."
]
It seems that brain loss exists & progreses in many cases of schizophrenia
and/or psychosis. Starts at the back of the brain & moves forwards over
several years IIRC.
Perhaps it's akin to a piron disease such as Kuru or a bit like
Alzheimer's. I wonder if it's contagious or transmissible.
And if one listens while shaking I'd wager his head rattles
much like a gourd with a dried pea inside.
Probably all the little voices & delusions fit in the remaining
(& growing) empty space.
Might even explain why he had to leave school & cannot comprehend
even simple shop math or gets kicked out of any trade school he's tried
on day one.
Also, consider:
[
In the mental health field, schizophasia, commonly referred to as word salad
(see "word salad" for other meanings), is used to describe the symptom of
confused, and often repetitious, language that is symptomatic of various mental
illnesses. It is usually associated with a manic presentation and other symptoms
of serious mental illnesses, such as psychoses, including schizophrenia. It
describes the apparently confused usage of words with no apparent meaning or
relationship attached to them. In this context, it is considered to be a symptom
of a formal thought disorder. In some cases schizophasia can be a sign of
asymptomatic schizophrenia ....
]
Word salad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
And we wondered why he's so confused & loves buzzwords & being so
utterly clueless ....
]
--
Cliff
brew...@aol.com
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com wrote:
>Fanuc's Manual
So you heard the rant on background editing with PCMCIA card and the
G12-G13 issue.
I even went so far as to write him a FANUC macro to get him started if
he felt G12-G13 were so valuable http://tinyurl.com/5fex9t doubt he
ever did anything with or about it.
Tom
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
Yes. It was a known issue (but not to me). I don't know if there is
any resolution yet. My understanding is that there were 3 people that
experienced it. There is a workable solutin that involves some
parameter changes and the purchase of the Background Edit Option.8-/
Don't shoot the messenger. <grin>
"...G12-G13 issue..."
I was unaware of that. I have a G12-G13 MACRO that I give to customers
that ask for it. In all honesty RARE is the company with a $500k HMC
that they manually write code for and request it. Usually it's asked
for my companues with VMC's and small shops. Nearly all the companies
I know of use a CAD/CAM system. It's just a little more productive
that way IMHO.
As a customer he asked me the kinds of questions I like as an AE -
challenging, ones that make me do some digging and looking, and cause
me to think about things a little differently ON THE MACHINE SIDE.
IMHO he does not know enough about Mastercam to give the kinds of
assessments he is giving, again only IMHO.
Joe788
> Actually Cliff, I'm an AE for a Machine Tool Dealer in SoCal and
> believe it or not, Jon was actually one of my customers for about a
> month or so (perhaps longer - not sure when he actually started where
> he was at). Didn't end up staying too long after we had spoken a few
> times on the phone for whatever reason.
>
James, is that particular company still in business?
Cliff
>"Latest really good one was a few days ago ... he wanted MasterCAM to
>automatically "link"/select the active WCS to whatever > view he was
>looking at."
>
>YIKES!!!!! I'm SOOOOOO glad CNC does not listen to him! That could be
>catastrophic.
But FUNNY !!!
He was also whining that, while in the middle of constructing a chain
in MasterCAM, (he's confused as to what chains & chaining are/is & he
sez GibbsCAM does not use, have or need them) he cannot just reselect
*his chosen starting point*. But he needs to newest release of MC to see
if this huge bug has been fixed (probably tired of rebooting).
Plus, he has to keep changing depths .... he has to "transform his Z levels"
for chains to work <G>.
AND he has to extract wireframe geometry from solids to get drive
curves (to chain). Can this be true? I'd have just used the drive
surfaces but ...
>"I gathered that only two had been banned there over all of time.
>Perhaps oth jb?"
>
>IIRC, there have been 5 or 6 bans total.. JB 2x, Kuei (sp?)
Kuei or thief cp or ...
Actually "Chris Plane" from just West of Milwaukee I think.
Perhaps steals cars too?
>2x, and
>some guys named "mult-ax" (i believe) 2x as well. For over 8 years,
>over 380,000 posts, and over 20,300 registered members, that's pretty
>remarkable really. It's a testament to the quality of it's membership
>IMHO. Yeah we get a little out of hand on occasion on the Off Topic
>area, but by and large, it's a great group of users with a WIDE
>variety of skillsets.
Well, I've never been banned there <G>.
--
Cliff
brew...@aol.com
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com wrote:
>. I have a G12-G13 MACRO that I give to customers
>that ask for it.
What about non-customers?
I like to see how others write macros.
Tom
Cliff
>
>Actually Cliff, I'm an AE for a Machine Tool Dealer in SoCal and
>believe it or not, Jon was actually one of my customers for about a
>month or so (perhaps longer - not sure when he actually started where
>he was at).
Perhaps about a week or so before?
>Didn't end up staying too long after we had spoken a few
>times on the phone for whatever reason.
Place had a "1/2 million dollar Matsuura horizontal with 12 pallets has a
conveyor that dumps chips into a small dumpster."?
Except he had problems counting the pallets? And it almost never
made any parts because of all the time needed to stand at the control &
MDI edit all the G-code?
[
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:48:44 -0700, jon_banquer
<jon_banq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"So what your saying is you can't program using MasterCAM or configure
>its post processor to output good G-Code for you 100% of the time?"
>Some of our posts do need some work. Fixing them is not our shops /
>the owners / my highest priority right now.
]
The Zen of the RED button:
[
When my mind is deep in the code and I'm standing at the machine
editing or creating a program I can see the tool in my mind as cuts
the part. I'm like in another world.
] - jon banquer
[
In better shops people know when not to bother you. When
this happens on a frequent basis it's a good sign that
perhaps one should move on.
] - jon banquer
"One word sums it up.....HANDWHEEL"
>Had some good intelligent
>questions for a change. I was able to provide some useful information
>to him. He uncovered a bug in Fanuc's Manual Guide-i that I was
>unaware of (but that the builder in question was aware of)
Was he trying to edit a program as one was running?
Perhaps the same program that was running?
>Regardless
>of my personal feelings towards him and his opinions, I treated him
>like I treat every other customer; with class, respect, dignity and
>"go the extra mile".
Not to be unexpected.
--
Cliff
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
> believe it or not, Jon was actually one of my customers for about a
> month or so (perhaps longer - not sure when he actually started where
> he was at). Didn't end up staying too long after we had spoken a few
> times on the phone for whatever reason.
"James, is that particular company still in business? "
AFAIK yes. I don't know (and don;t want to) know the particulars of
his departure. <grin> NOMB <grin>
brew...@aol.com
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com wrote:
>I was unaware of that. I have a G12-G13 MACRO that I give to customers
>that ask for it. In all honesty RARE is the company with a $500k HMC
>that they manually write code for and request it. Usually it's asked
>for my companues with VMC's and small shops. Nearly all the companies
>I know of use a CAD/CAM system. It's just a little more productive
>that way IMHO.
I don't believe in programming at the machine so we are on the same
page there. However for boring a set of soft jaws to hold a round part
as a canned cycle it can be a handy little tool.
Tom
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
>for chains to work <G>. AND he has to extract wireframe geometry from solids to get >drive curves (to chain). Can this be true? I'd have just used the drive surfaces but ...
Depending on the topology of the feature(s) you may need to extract
wireframe. It just depends. I'd have to see it do determine what's
necessary.
Often times I find that a little training goes a LOOOOOOOONG way with
Mastercam, or any other relatively involved piece of software. That's
not to say people can;t figure out things for themselves because
people do every day, but taking a class to learn the basics helps. As
a matter of fact, I sat in on a class a while back and I have well
over a decade of experience with it and was able to pick up some cool
things, shortcuts and tips. Definitely worth the time investment
IMHO.
Changing depths... :headscratch: Ummmmmmm.... if you select your chain
that is modeled in the correct location relative to the other
features, select the top of the stock and have depth cuts selected, it
should do what's necessary to cut multiple depths... again I'd have to
see what we're talking about to make an educated evaluation.
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 13:42:07 -0700 (PDT), jmeye...@mastercam-cadcam.com wrote:
>
> >Actually Cliff, I'm an AE for a Machine Tool Dealer in SoCal and
> >believe it or not, Jon was actually one of my customers for about a
> >month or so (perhaps longer - not sure when he actually started where
> >he was at).
>
> Perhaps about a week or so before?
> Place had a "1/2 million dollar Matsuura horizontal with 12 pallets has a
> conveyor that dumps chips into a small dumpster."?
Ummm, it actually has 11 Pallets... <grin> but that's ok, who's
counting <grin> Actually 11 is a somewhat odd number in his defense.
<grin>
> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:48:44 -0700, jon_banquer
>
> <jon_banq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"So what your saying is you can't program using MasterCAM or configure
> >its post processor to output good G-Code for you 100% of the time?"
> >Some of our posts do need some work. Fixing them is not our shops /
> >the owners / my highest priority right now.
>
When is having a Post and Run Post Processor NOT a
priority??? :headscratch: Possibly when all you do is ask for stuff
and never actually accomplish anything??? (just thinking out loud and
not saying anything in particular)
> >Had some good intelligent
> >questions for a change. I was able to provide some useful information
> >to him. He uncovered a bug in Fanuc's Manual Guide-i that I was
> >unaware of (but that the builder in question was aware of)
>
> Was he trying to edit a program as one was running?
> Perhaps the same program that was running?
I think that was my first question IIRC. His answer was no. Matsuuras
with 30i Controls run in Manual Guide-i always - unless you change the
14000 paramaters to operate with the standard FANUC Operator
Interface. Now the bug/issue is between Loading Programs via PCMCIA/
MEM CARD... while the machine is in cycle. I don;t knwo all the
particulars so I will not elaborate further. On other machines with
31i controls, this can be accomplished (reading programs into memory
while the machie is in cycle) I even wrote a procedure with Control
Screen Shots and everything.
Cliff
>> Place had a "1/2 million dollar Matsuura horizontal with 12 pallets has a
>> conveyor that dumps chips into a small dumpster."?
>Ummm, it actually has 11 Pallets... <grin>
That's what others said as well.
But he kept on & on about 12 <G>.
>but that's ok, who's
>counting <grin> Actually 11 is a somewhat odd number in his defense.
><grin>
IIRC It's even on the machine ..... or in it's name .... "11".
He did seem concerned about chips & a dumpster
though ... http://barn_rubble.tripod.com/
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Nearly all the companies
>I know of use a CAD/CAM system. It's just a little more productive
>that way IMHO.
Far too sane for him to consider.
But perhaps the actual programmer there ...?
--
Cliff
Cliff
>>Plus, he has to keep changing depths .... he has to "transform his Z levels"
>>for chains to work <G>. AND he has to extract wireframe geometry from solids to get >drive curves (to chain). Can this be true? I'd have just used the drive surfaces but ...
>
>Depending on the topology of the feature(s) you may need to extract
>wireframe. It just depends. I'd have to see it do determine what's
>necessary.
Cannot imagine it being any more complex than a piston rod ...
we know he does no 5-axes & no 3-axes surface machining & just
imagine anything with MDI endless edits at the control .... 2 1/2
axes at best ... but my money is still on the broom.
--
Cliff
Joe788
James, Cliff is referring to one of JB's insane rants about chaining.
This comes right back to Jon having no clue about even the most basic
functions of the software.
He was getting EXTREMELY frustrated with branch points while trying to
chain wireframes. But instead of asking for help, he decided to go on
a rampage about chaining being a "stupid waste of time." If he had
any idea what he was doing, he'd have simply used the plane mask to
make sure the chain goes around the contour in one click, instead of
being forced to pick a direction at every intersection.
Later, he went on an Insane CAD Jihad about not being able to see
which WCS a particular operation was using by looking at the OP
Manager, without "multiple mouse clicks." After I pointed out that
it's right there in the name of each operation, and he realized he
just didn't have the display turned on, he changed his Jihad. Now he
wanted to CHANGE the WCS from outside the operation. Just another
example of Jonnie complaining for something, then realizing he had it
all along, then changing his complaint.
He's just a habitual malcontent.
jon.b...@gmail.com
address, 72.199.251.224. I can now see that my trust in Jon was
misplaced.
http://joncluelessbanquer.blogspot.com/
Jon Banquer
Atlanta, GA
jon_banquer
brew...@aol.com
wrote:
>habitual malcontent.
And poseur:
[
You never chain geometry in Gibbs or SmartCAM. It's not necessary.
] - Jon Banquer - May 20, 2005
[
Create the elements in any order, and sequence them later, using
modeling tools such as Chain.
] -SmartCAM Manual -
------------------
[
I hope I provided some good info on Gibbs Machining Markers and the
FACT that Gibbs doesn't have chaining tools.
]-Jon Banquer-
[[
<bottlebob> wrote:
>Now a quickie explanation about the Machining Markers.
>
>The blue arrow is the direction the tool will go
>(you can choose backward >or forward movement),
>you highlighted one of the three circles, they tell
>the tool to either go on the outside of the geometry, the inside of
>the geometry, OR centered on the geometry. The white round marker is
>where the toolpath starts, and the black round marker is where it
>ends. The square black & white markers are the particular section of
>the geometry chosen to start on. The red line it the toolpath, the
>purple like is the geometry (it is purple, right? I'm color blind and
>it looks like dark blue to me)
Can you show us how you "chained" that geometry in Gibbscam, Bob?
] - Jon Banquer-
[
For someone like Dr. Battleboob, GibbSCAM is the PERFECT
system.
] -Jon Banquer-
Jon did you even read Bob's post, the one you copied above?
I can show you how the geometry in GibbsCAM is chained. Here you go,
the program needs to know this as a minimum to chain:
1) profile start
2) profile end
3) direction
4) offset
So lets look at machining markers and what Bottle Bob describes:
1) start:
"The white round marker is where the toolpath starts,"
2) end:
"the black round marker is where it ends."
3) direction:
"blue arrow is the direction"
4) offset:
"they tell the tool to either go on the outside of the
geometry, the inside of the geometry, OR centered on the geometry."
>ROTFLMFAO
Now if BB clicks on the blue arrow and reverses it he just reversed
the chain direction. If BB clicks on the white box and drags it to
another position he just edited the chains start point.
>Love those Machining Markers! Great idea!
You can call it "Chaining" (since that is the original widely accepted
term) or you can call it "Machining Markers", hell you can even
call it "Santa Clause" if you want as long as it tells the CAM program
where the profile start, end, direction and offset is. All CAM
programs have to know that information in order to calculate the
offset tool path by any other name it's still "chaining".
] -Tom-
jon_banquer
reidm...@msn.com
Joe788
> Tired of Matt Lombard's never ending bullshit and realize he doesn't
> know jack shit about manufacturing or the tools really needed in a
> CADCAM system?
>
> Tired of SolidWorks bloggers who only start talking about better
> technology when Siemens/UGS makes it beyond obvious that SolidWorks is
> far behind the technology curve.
>
> Tired of Franco Folini's / Novedge agenda of getting people to buy the
> software he sells by pretending to do real interviews?
>
> Love Deelip Menezes fresh approach but realize he's not going to
> offend lying scumbags like Alibre's Greg Milliken by pointing out how
> Alibre's CEO Greg Milliken lies like a rug?
>
> Love upFront.eZine and WorldCAD Access but want a harder edge?
>
> Wish Paul Salvador's "Surfs Up" published more and went further?
>
> Tired of the clique that runs E-Mastercam that won't allow honest
> discussion of Mastercam? That would be James Meyette, John Paris and
> Dave Thompson.
>
>
> Tired of the ads on CNC Zone and an owner who is a whore and will do
> anything to not offend advertisers?
>
> Tired of the hype of OneCNC and BobCRAP?
>
> Tired of the McNeel not getting the importance of mechanical CAD and
> the clique on their newsgroup?
>
> Tired of idiot CADCAM users who don't have a fucking clue?
>
> Realize that SolidWorks is in deep shit and has lost touch with the
> tools that are really needed and that Siemens/UGS announced last
> week?
>
> Wish you had a better choice than Mastercam or SolidWorks?
>
> Now you have a choice:
First sentence on the Jon Banquer Insane-CAD-JiBlog: "I’m a Mastercam
user. I've been using Mastercam pretty much everyday for the last
year."
Jon, your blog couldn't even make it one day without you sticking your
foot in your mouth with an out-and-out lie.
Just four months ago, you were on a full blown Insane-CAD-Jihad about
FeatureCAM, claiming to be a user, and even posting screen shots (from
your cracked copy, no doubt). Now you're claiming you've used MC every
day for the last year?
Gets tough to keep your lies and bullshit all lined up, huh?
jmey...@mastercam-cadcam.com
> good to see you around here James!!
Hello Darrell,
Jon besmirched my name and my favorite online community so I felt
compelled to defend myself as well as eMastercam(even though it stands
on it'sa own merits well enough by itself) because what he said was an
outright lie. New people may someday read his rant and decide based on
that - eMastercam is not an useful resource for Mastercam users.
winnie....@gmail.com
schizein (σχίζειν, "to split") and phrēn, phren- (φρήν, φρεν-,
"mind"), is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental illness
characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of
reality, most commonly manifesting as auditory hallucinations,
paranoid or bizarre delusions or disorganized speech and thinking in
the context of significant social or occupational dysfunction. Onset
of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood,[1] with approximately
0.4–0.6%[2][3] of the population affected. Diagnosis is based on the
patient's self-reported experiences and observed behavior. No
laboratory test for schizophrenia currently exists.[4]
Cliff
>auditory hallucinations
There's a little list of many of those voices floating about.
>No laboratory test for schizophrenia currently exists
Just check under his bed.
If Bill Gibbs is NOT under it (whispering to him in his sleep) he has it.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>First sentence on the Jon Banquer Insane-CAD-JiBlog: "I’m a Mastercam
>user. I've been using Mastercam pretty much everyday for the last
>year."
What a hoot !!!
Lots of steaming piles of funny stuff !!
Sadly, much of it is just copied from his prior rantings (with
a few real-banquer parts of "speach").
--
Cliff
jon_banquer
Cliff
>"[
>Mastercam Reliability
>
>
>I sure hope that when Mastercam X3 is released in the next few months
>that it's better coded than X2 MR2. I cranked out 6 programs in
>Mastercam today. Had to kill Mastercam and restart it 4 times. Shit
>just stops working. Example: I'm chaining and wish to move the start
>point. The move start point dialog box won't open until I kill
>Mastercam X2 MR2 SP1 (latest download from CNC Software's website)
>and
>restart.
>
>
>Posted by Jon Banquer at 7:45 PM 0 comments
>Labels: Mastercam X2 X3 Reliability
>]
>"
>
>That's odd behaviour.
I'd guess not once you realize what he "thinks" he's
trying to do.
Can you edit a chain by changing it's starting point
while *still creating the chain*?
That "new" starting point might be miles away & unconnected.
If I had written the chaining function(s) I'd not allow the editing
of an entity (the chain) until the user had created it, beyond
a "back one step" function & similar.
A chain is sort of like an array entity ... and it's kind of
hard to write to both ends of an open array at the same time.
Plus a decent chaining function needs to check that the chosen
entities actually can form a chain as it goes. Else you could select two
1" circles 10" apart .... and it has to do that one by one in sequence
as the entities are selected *in order*.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>his reseller shoudl be able to
>assist him in getting Mastercam to output edit-free code
That presumes an actual legal copy with an actual user.
Anybody can beg for free videos.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>From what I gather, from his complaints, there was nothing truly
>significant preventing him from making the machine in question sing.
Being clueless.
I think he's "programming" in the machine coordinate system
& copying toolpaths instead of repeating the same ones with
fixture offsets. Among other blunders (or is there a control
limitation?)
He never ever did get "part coordinate system" per ISO-4343.
And he claimed to be editing code because his Z values were off
due to bad posts (clearance plane issue) IIRC .
Since when do posts have anything to do with the user's chosen
clearance plane?
Pass the popcorn.
--
Cliff
jon_banquer
CarCr...@gmail.com
jon_banquer
http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/
Crazym...@gmail.com
You mean shut down lol
jon_banquer
"Many blogs are being shut down for uncomfortable thoughts and ideas.
We will not do that. Our goal is to protect freedom of speech and your
thoughts. As long as you don’t break any Swedish laws in your blog, we
will defend it."
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/
Break out the crying towels you sniveling little whiners; I'm back and
more in your face than ever.