I know it has happened many times in the past to me but since I do not
do many drawings it's not a major issue and I just assign a custom #.
What gets me is I do not see post on this issue.
So, since today was one of the rare drawing assembly bom days, IT SUCKS
and a JOKE!!!!
THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. HEY SW COMPETITORS, USE IT AGAINST THEM.
FIX IT SW INC!!!!!
"Paul Salvador" <pa...@zxys.com> wrote in message
news:3BB7A2E5...@zxys.com...
First, I do not hate you or anyone (take that and manipulate it if you
like). I just do not like the VAR system and the VAR's who do a bad job
at supporting and selling product.
And by the way, I have to respond to a earlier thread you wrote, about
AE/Selling being more difficult than Design Engineering work... being a
AE was EASY (but fun because of the new people you meet), designing REAL
product is by far more challenging. Tools like SW and Pro/e give us
many ways to do things and many ways to get into doing more things in a
non-productive way which defeats or retards the design process. As much
as I like 3D modeling, that's the hard reality. But tools as simple as
BOM item balloons that do not work properly is bull.
Anyhow, to all your questions/guesses, "no".
So, it's a "Problem/BUG/Pain/Fubar/.." and SW Inc should FIX IT!
..
---------------Kevin Silbert response----------------
Paul,
Since you already seem to hate me personally, and VARs in general and
seem
to want the worst for SolidWorks, which I believe in wholeheartedly, I
figure you at least won't be pissed if my advice doesn't help:
1) Is you drawing RapidDraft? If you try to open it and see the option
"Convert to rapiddraft" the answer is no. If it is, try copying/pasting
the
views into a new, non-rapiddraft drawing as a workaround, and send the
originals to your VAR so SolidWorks can fix the problem.
2) Have you tried pointing the balloons to edges instead of faces? I'm
wondering if the assembly interference that has been so lovingly
mentioned
recently may be a problem. It's easier for SW to recognize by an edge.
I
think.
3) Any chance that the BOM was made off a different view? One that has
different items suppressed/unsuppressed? If this is the case,
everything
would make sense as those items may not be on in the view the BOM is on.
Good luck.
-Kevin
BTW- if you really want them to fix a problem, we need a little more
info to
go on. Stuff like the above details may help.
As far as I know, it works under the standard numeric system but you can
use custom on the balloons and manually assign letters to the
spreadsheet(which are lost with a rebuild/regen/ or click on the bom).
I remember something on boms and using different item callouts.
Search Google newsgroups on this.
..
And no, "Rows numbers follow assembly order" does not help. And yes,
ALL my assemblies follow a assembly order so why that is screwed up is
another issue.
Again, it's a weakness in program that needs to be fixed.
You seem to take the path of workarounds when this is a core problem,
and I understand just making your customers happy by doing a quick fix
but again this is a core problem and the more people just keep allowing
things to be half baked, nothing will be addressed and we will be feed
marketing features we do not need.
Ultimately a auto balloon assign routine will be wanted but today I want
it to work as it says it does.
(and please do not post to me directly, this is a newsgroup and it is
about sharing information here, regardless, I will continue posting
whatever your post to me directly. Have a nice sabbatical from the
newsgroup)
Well, you did not directly say or compare it to design work but reading
it again, how could it not say that?
Quote:
"Anyone who thinks that my job is easy would probably be suprised to
try it themselves.
Even worse- try to hire an experienced Design Engineer and tell him/her
about all the work involved, and that they really won't get to design
things
that much any more..."
And btw, I did design things while I helped support my then clients and
on the side.
So I do not agree with you, being a AE was actually quite easy. The
difficult part was trying to cover up (bend the truth, workarounds, or
not say anything) the weaknesses of the products I helped support, train
and sell.
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Kevin Silbert wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> I never did actually say being an AE was more difficult... Dealing with
> people is ;)
>
> Sorry my advice did not help. Good luck now and in the future... I'm goin
> on sabbatical from the NG before my company finds out I'm pissing off users.
>
> One more thing- try turning off "Row numbers follow assembly order" in the
> BOM properties- this may be the problem; if it is, it's on the list for
> SP10.
>
> -Kevin
Being an *excellent* AE is more difficult than specializing in
something, because people expect you to know everything thoroughly, from
sheetmetal to mold design, translations to drawings, complex shapes to
analysis, photoworks to toolbox, file management to the latest video
cards. Besides that, your tech support crystal ball and extra sensory
powers must be dead on all the time without room for mistakes. There
are very few people who can pull all that together.
If I'm not mistaken, I think Kevin has a Professional Engineer license,
which is TONS more than most people who post or read here can say.
If you want to fixate on a VAR to bash, try this Brett Dunn chap. He
called me at home tonight. Just another telemarketer. Or try Dennis
Wentworth of Axis Technologies who sends gay lover email to a generic
email address at my work. Or some var who is hopefully defunct,
Paradigm? Hagelmeister? in CT who was going to take the world by storm
selling SW to his Iron Cad customers over the telephone, taking
advantage of a talented AE kid who didn't know any better, or another
local (Rochester - I can't bring myself to name these people)
barely-a-reseller who has only one tech guy and he can't even bend
sheetmetal. They picked up SW for the free use of licenses in the design
side of his business. These are the sleaze balls you should be bashing,
not Kevin or Trimech.
Matt.
I've never seen this one, but every once in a while very bizarre things
start to happen in SW. This sounds like similar kind of stuff. I save my
work, exit SW, and restart. Stuff is usually back to normal at that point.
Sometimes, when I've been logged on for quite a while I will restart the
computer instead of just SW.
Jerry Steiger
At Work Computers