Accudraw
Steven Schenk
I have just one small problem with Accudraw, and
would like to know if any one has come up with a fix, trick,
or work around?
When moving text, or drawing line that are close to a axis,
the Accudraw snaps to the axis, but I don't want it on the
axis. Is their any way to stop Accudraw from snapping to the
axis? I just shut Accudraw off, and after the text move or
line placement I just turn it on.
Allso does anyone have copying from referenct files with Accudraw on?
I seem to have probles with this operation.
Still think Accudraw is the eight wonder of the world. Best tool they
ever came up with.
Rob Brown
Steven Schenk wrote in message <348980...@dreamscape.com>...
>I have just one small problem with Accudraw, and
>would like to know if any one has come up with a fix, trick,
>or work around?
>
>When moving text, or drawing line that are close to a axis,
>the Accudraw snaps to the axis, but I don't want it on the
>axis. Is their any way to stop Accudraw from snapping to the
>axis?
Yep. (this is cut&pasted from a previous post retrieved via dejanews)
If you have any of the vault enhancement versions, this issue is
approached in a few different ways. One is to just turn off the
"indexing" altogether (indexing is the tendency to snap onto the
x and y axes, as well as the last distance used). You can turn
off either or both axis and distance indexing (its in the "more
settings" dialog box.
If you just want to disable it temporarily (say you want to place a
point real close to the axis or to the last point placed) there is a
shortcut <L> which locks the current indexing state. It has the
additional ability of allowing you to index to one axis but not the
other (because it preserves the state when you press the shortcut).
It's effects are negated when you place another point (or press L again).
Finally, in more recent versions, you can set the tolerance the
indexing uses (independently of the locate tolerance) if you prefer it
doesn't index unless you get within a pixel or two.
(btw, on all versions of accudraw you may simply use shortcut <O>, to simply
move the origin and therefore the "sticky" axes to an out of the way place)
>Allso does anyone have copying from referenct files with Accudraw on?
>I seem to have probles with this operation.
I'm not aware of a problem...can you be more specific?
>Still think Accudraw is the eight wonder of the world. Best tool they
>ever came up with.
I was gonna say that about dejanews, but okay, I guess I'm with ya on that.
<g> I'm glad to see people are actually starting to use it, for a long
while it sure seemed to have kinda flopped.
-r
L Miles
Rob Brown wrote:
> >Still think Accudraw is the eight wonder of the world. Best tool they
> >ever came up with.
>
> I was gonna say that about dejanews, but okay, I guess I'm with ya on that.
> <g> I'm glad to see people are actually starting to use it, for a long
> while it sure seemed to have kinda flopped.
Don't worry, Rob. Us newer users are HELPLESS without it!
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Thomas Voghera
Steven
RQ is what I use.
But I agree, something that released Accudraw for one datapoint would be
fine. Like HOLD.
Thomas V
Schenk wrote:
> =
> I have just one small problem with Accudraw, and
> would like to know if any one has come up with a fix, trick,
> or work around?
> =
> When moving text, or drawing line that are close to a axis,
> the Accudraw snaps to the axis, but I don't want it on the
> axis. Is their any way to stop Accudraw from snapping to the
> axis? I just shut Accudraw off, and after the text move or
> line placement I just turn it on.
> =
> Allso does anyone have copying from referenct files with Accudraw on?
> I seem to have probles with this operation.
> =
> Still think Accudraw is the eight wonder of the world. Best tool they
> ever came up with.
-- =
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Chad Berreau
Thomas, Steve, et al,
This is a constant question and comment up here. I have seen on several
occasions Rob comment on this and provide the solution.
Evidently he has not been successful in full articulating the solution
which exists in both SE and an mdl update released about 9 months ago
for the Select lot. Perhaps Bentley might want to consider making it
available to all. This may seem to be a very nice Christmas present.
Although the Accudraw Enhancement I speak of does not contain the Pop Up
Calculator, but does have lock indexing.
The solution is an added shortcut key built into accudraw. "L"
This shortcut thought isn't a singular purpose. I think it is for this
reason that most don't realize that it either exists or think it works.
L stand for Lock index.
It has three (3) states
- lock the angle index to the nearest axis
- temporarily suspended axis indexing. (one time, simliar to the "p"
shortcut in comparison to the "m" short cut.)
- reset.
I think, imho, it might have been less confusing had this been made into
a two versus one key shortcut. say...
la - lock to nearest axis
ls - suspended indexing
lr - reset accudraw, (either unlocking indexing, or reinstating the
suspended status.
hth,
chad
Thomas Voghera wrote:
>
> Steven
>
> RQ is what I use.
> But I agree, something that released Accudraw for one datapoint would be
> fine. Like HOLD.
>
> Thomas V
>
> Schenk wrote:
> >
> > I have just one small problem with Accudraw, and
> > would like to know if any one has come up with a fix, trick,
> > or work around?
> >
> > When moving text, or drawing line that are close to a axis,
> > the Accudraw snaps to the axis, but I don't want it on the
> > axis. Is their any way to stop Accudraw from snapping to the
> > axis? I just shut Accudraw off, and after the text move or
> > line placement I just turn it on.
> >
> > Allso does anyone have copying from referenct files with Accudraw on?
> > I seem to have probles with this operation.
> >
> > Still think Accudraw is the eight wonder of the world. Best tool they
> > ever came up with.
>
> --
> ******************************************************************
> Thomas Voghera, TVAK
> Box 8215, 163 08 SPÅNGA, SWEDEN
Thomas Voghera
Thanks Chad,
you have tought me something.
I have a weak recollection of the posting but it didn't work in the '95
I had. I see it works in SE and I'll try to use it.
I have no problem with the tree states. On the contrary, I think it is
very good. Saves keys to remember. I can use moore of that.
Imho it is bad documentation that don't reach users. A yellow flag when
pointer over Accudraw shortcuts would do the trick.
Thomas V
Rob Brown
I just tried making a "put accudraw on hold for one datapoint" command, and
it was possible with just a couple lines of code (surprising since I now
have to work like everyone else....from the outside!). It may be simpler to
use than the L thing, but not necessarily as powerful. And it won't require
SE (but you're missing out on a lot of cool stuff if you don't have SE, of
course).
So in case you prefer it to the L shortcut, I'll make it available once I
have a chance to make a proper little app out of it. I'll see if I can put
another goody or two in there to make it worth the effort of
downloading/installing it. It won't be as cool as Chris's Infosnap, but hey
its something. :)
BTW, the reason the L shortcut is the way it is is because sometimes you may
want to index to one axis but not the other, or to an axis but not to the
last distance, or something. Maybe it does need some rethinking.
-rob
Thomas Voghera wrote in message <349433...@ibm.net>...
Thomas Voghera
Rob
We are starting a website in TMC Sweden now. It's in Swedish but if you
go to www.comwell.se/maf and find SNUTTAR in the list to left I'm sure
understand. Click on THOMAS HOLM and send him a description.
If you then e-mail a zip-file to audun.e...@rcgruppen.no he will put
it on ftp.
We will make a proper anouncment of this after holidays.
Thomas V
L Miles
I remember the posting on the L key too. I also remember trying it in
MS95 and it didn't work for me either. Haven't tried it in SE yet. I
muddle thru with turning Accudraw off when it bothers me. It takes
several key strokes, but always works.
Louise Miles
--
L Miles
Thomas Voghera wrote:
> We are starting a website in TMC Sweden now. It's in Swedish but if you
> go to www.comwell.se/maf and find SNUTTAR in the list to left I'm sure
> understand. Click on THOMAS HOLM and send him a description.
I think we have finally found the perfect name for Bill Clinton's dog:
SNUTTAR!
Gary N. Wood
>
>BTW, the reason the L shortcut is the way it is is because sometimes you may
>want to index to one axis but not the other, or to an axis but not to the
>last distance, or something. Maybe it does need some rethinking.
>
>-rob
>
Rob,
The "L" shortcut works very well the way it is.
The two problems I have seen are caused by:
1. End user does not have latest greatest... This is not specific to
AccuDraw,. Folks who don't manage to get updates from Web Site don't
have the version with the "L" switch.
2. Folks who get the "L" switch version don't realize that the "L"
switch is context sensitive.
Once I have shown folks how it works they really think it is slick.
Most folks appreciate not having to use several different commands
when the one will do.
Context sensitivty is just something that most users haven't come to
expect from their software yet.
-Gary
Benjamin Kemp
Rob Brown wrote:
>
> I just tried making a "put accudraw on hold for one datapoint" command, and
>
> So in case you prefer it to the L shortcut, I'll make it available once I
> have a chance to make a proper little app out of it. I'll see if I can put
> another goody or two in there to make it worth the effort of
> downloading/installing it. It won't be as cool as Chris's Infosnap, but hey
> its something. :)
It would be a lot. Accudraw is the greatest, but my biggest problem with
it is the one described in this thread. I have tried using the L
shortcut, with limited success. Seems when I don't want accudraw, I
don't want any part of it, including the compass. A one-key one-shot
suspension, without having to restart, would be ideal.
bjmn
Rob Brown
Hi Benjamin,
Well you got your wish....I just posted it (the title is "Christmas Toys")
and it also has a "rotate to element" thing that I hope you'll like. If you
can't get attachments from newsgroups, send me an email. Chris Z has
offered to put the app on his web site also, I'm sure when he does he'll let
everyone know.
Please let me know (preferably through the newsgroup) how it works for you.
-rob
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