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natanz

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Jul 25, 2007, 4:50:29 PM7/25/07
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when i enter a file the snap mode is set to keypoints. I want to
change this so that every time i enter any file, the snap mode is set
to Multi-snap 1. Is this a variable that i can control at the user
level? How do i set it?

lorys

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Jul 26, 2007, 5:58:41 AM7/26/07
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natanz wrote:

if you change it to keypoint snap then use th save settings it should
work...
other wise create a new interface from the microstation manager
and set it to have all the default settings you want then save settings
and exit.
mow everytime you want to open dgn you must run microstation first,
choose to use your created interface and then choos the file you want
and it should have remebered your settings..
if its still not working then your adminstrator has blocked you from
changing the look and feel of microstation... go and cry on his/her
shoulder and as for help.
Lorys

AL-MARAGHI

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Aug 1, 2007, 5:12:57 AM8/1/07
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Hi Natanz..

The easiest way is when you are selcting the desired snap mode, in
same time click shift. It works for me.
I hope it does also for you.

natanz

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Aug 1, 2007, 5:09:05 PM8/1/07
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actually the answer was different than what either of you suggested,
and that may be because the question was not clear. In our office we
are trying to discourage individual users from saving settings. with
snap mode that is a particular problem. imagine if you working on a
team, where each user had a different preferred snap mode, and they
were all regularly going into to drawings and changing it. you would
never end up with your preferred mode. The problem is that
microstation saves the snap mode with the drawing, which from this
former autocad users perspective is bizarre, if not just plain dumb.
So there are two possible approaches. you could write some macro,
that ran at the opening of every drawing to set the snap mode to your
user preference. That is beyond the scope of my capabilities at this
point (but probably not for long. ) Well, fortunately microstation
recognized that having the drawing set snap mode rather than user was
errant, so they have a variable that you set at the network level to
give control back to the user. I am mystified why bentley doesn't
have this as the default, but here is the suggestion from Askinga.com

you'll find a new variable that enables you to tell MicroStation where
to get the default snap mode and multi-snap settings from.

MS_SNAPMODE_SOURCE = 0 (or undefined) is the legacy setting whereby
the default snap mode comes from the current design file.

MS_SNAPMODE_SOURCE = 1 stores the default snap mode as part of the
User Preferences and applies it to each file upon opening. In the clip
below, pay attention to the snap mode and note how it's retained from
file to file.

Ralph Hertle

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Oct 13, 2007, 8:03:16 PM10/13/07
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natanz:


natanz wrote:

> The problem is that
> microstation saves the snap mode with the drawing, which from this
> former autocad users perspective is bizarre, if not just plain dumb.
>


That is not correct. The snap mode setting may be saved with the drawing
with Save Settings. Snap settings are what they are set to be or as
saved at any given time.

They may be, however, also be saved as a setting that will open the next
time MSTN is opened. The View Attributes, <ctrl-B>, Levels ON/OFF
settings, and Snap settings, by means of [Save Settings, File Design, or
<ctrl-F>], can be changed either with or without Save Settings. If Save
Settings is not set to the new View Attribute values, for example, MSTN
will next open the file with whatever settings were last saved. If view
attributes, levels, or snaps are changed and Save Settings is set, MSTN
will next open the file with whatever settings were last saved, e.g.,
with the new values.

I use Save Settings regularly, and the View Attribute settings may be
set differently for each view and saved. The levels, level symbology
schemes, Saved Views, windowing set-ups and perspective set-ups are also
saved via Save Settings.

AutoCAD has a deficiency in those areas, and it most rigidly relies upon
the Layer table for its settings.

You say,

> In our office we are trying to discourage individual users from
saving settings.

> With snap mode that is a particular problem.

Save Settings restrictions are totally arbitrary, when in fact they are
a most useful tool - not only for single drawings; they are greatly
useful on large referenced projects.

Snap Settings in MicroStation are set by choice at any given time, and
the settings may be saved in the file by Save Settings.
For changing the snap settings as you work, keep the Snap Menu icon
permanently on screen. You may also tear off the entire Snap Menu and
dock that on screen. The advantage to that is that the Accusnap switch
is available, and that brings forth an entire range of marvelous
selection and command possibilities for drawing in MSTN - especially in 3D.

Without Save Settings there is no way to set and save to the file the
view attributes, levels, level symbology, reference file level
symbology, View Attribute settings for reference files, and view data
windowing set-ups.

Reference files are the all time great feature of MSTN. Reference files
are one the several reasons why MSTN is used by the larger engineering
firms, especially on large and complex projects. MSTN has it all over
ACAD in that regard.

Learn to save your active file settings and your referenced model file
settings to good advantage with Save Settings.

Ralph Hertle

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