Which mouse for Microstation?
Joel
longer available. Is any model particularly better for cad than any other?
What about the wheel models? Can that wheel be used for zooming or
scrolling? Thanks in advance for your input.
MPalicki
to-be-released v7.1, and as an enhancement to v7.0
It works pretty well, and supports zoom and pan. It's a little buggy in
MicroStation dialogs, but mainly because of keyboard focus issues.
Overall though, I find it much easier to navigate through windows with
my wheel than with a tradional mouse. I'm suddenly finding myself lost
without it when have to sit down at another computer.
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Before you buy.
Galilee
The 4 button Logitech wheel mouse, never used CAD with any other mouse. The
wheel scrolls in the latest /J 7.1. I was looking in a computer store this
evening for a second one but there was no stock. I never had a Logitech die
on me, how many years have you been using it? There is a MDL imouse.ma
included in mdlsys. I don't know if it zooms.
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mouse (cordless) about 3 weeks ago and wonder how I ever survived before.
Excellent choice.
Donna Roberts
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Joel
clicks before responding.
Reset, Reset, Reset, Reset
Joel
P.S. I couldn't locate imouse.ma on my machine. Should this have been loaded
w/Microstation?
Jack
Microsoft Pro, it looks like a Logitech 4 button. Might get one whe my
logitech dies.
Jack
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Jim Weisgram
>My Logitech 3 button mouse is dying and needs a replacement, and is no
>longer available. Is any model particularly better for cad than any other?
>What about the wheel models? Can that wheel be used for zooming or
>scrolling? Thanks in advance for your input.
>
If you check out the Logitech web site www.logitech.com you can see their mice.
I am very pleased with my 4 button wheel mouse but I lust for the cordless
models that are suddenly pretty cheap. That "tail" drives me crazy. Of course,
being left handed, I had to learn long ago to mouse with my right hand.
On the other hand, I am getting sick of cleaning that rubber ball and the scum
that collects on the rollers inside, and I am interested in the new Microsoft
"intellieye" mouse (can you say that fast 3 times?) that uses an optical sensor
instead of any moving parts and doesn't need any sort of pad. It "only" has 5
buttons, a shame it is not cordless. It looks quite sleek on their web site.
Something tells me there is a new Logitech model right on the horizon.
By the way, since everyone else has imouse.ma working with /J, I should relate
it hasn't happened for me. I am not sure what I did wrong. This is all at home
and in demo mode only (we still are running SE at work) but I am thinking to get
ready for an upgrade, I should check it out.
I got an email from a knowledgeable source that the problem could be Win95, some
versions didn't work with imouse. I recently bit the bullet and moved to Win98
to handle my new hard drive, and it still doesn't work. I have a recent download
of /J 7.0.
Any thoughts from the gallery would be welcome. I know the documentation gives
specific mouse settings but I don't see that those are available with the Logi
software.
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email: jwei...@hotmail.com
All opinions expressed are mine and not my employers (but they ought to be)
Damon
You can load the mdl imouse.mdl and get all the functionality
that Microsoft intellimouse gets. ie. zoom in & out with wheel.
I have had no problems with this mdl.
The 4th button is cool. I set it up for ctrl and then I don't need to
use my other hand on the keyboard to multiselect objects in a
drag fence operation and for my function key's. Now all I nedd
is another button for alt key.
But my Co-worker bought the microsoft itellimouse trackball.
guess what. imouse.ma does not work. It comes with
intellimouse software but will not work.
Another Co-worker is using Mirosoft mouse with wheel and
doesn't have a problem.
Anyone know why trackball won't work???
In regards to wheel mouse. I don't know how I did without it.
When I go home to my normal mouse without a wheel I
get pissed off. It is so handy far everything on the computer.
Cheers
Damon Aspden
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>You are so right. I replaced my mouse with the 4 button Logitech wheel
>mouse (cordless) about 3 weeks ago and wonder how I ever survived before.
>Excellent choice.
>
>Donna Roberts
>
>Galilee <gal...@global.co.za> wrote in article
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>> Yup,
>> The 4 button Logitech wheel mouse, never used CAD with any other mouse.
>The
>> wheel scrolls in the latest /J 7.1. I was looking in a computer store
>this
>> evening for a second one but there was no stock. I never had a Logitech
>die
>> on me, how many years have you been using it? There is a MDL imouse.ma
>> included in mdlsys. I don't know if it zooms.
>> --
>> Kind Regards
>> Samuel G McCammond
>> Galilee Engineering Design Services
>> gal...@global.co.za
>> http://home.global.co.za/~galilee
>> <newsgroup-m...@bentley.com> wrote in message
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>> >
Dennis Barker
Intellimouse and use the wheel functions. If you can't update with select,
then get another three button mouse.
Dennis Barker
Joel <rmfce*NO*SPAM*@erols.com> wrote in message
Galilee
The MDL imouse.ma only comes with the latest release, I am testing /JBeta 3
and it is in the directory mdlsys/required. I think SELECT can download it
from stream.
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Galilee Engineering Design Services
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Galilee
They have stopped selling the normal 3 button. I got the last one in S.A,
after hunting through several stores. They seem to only sell the Pilot mouse
at the low end and the 4 button at high end. Don't ever buy their cordless,
I did and sold it again. Useless for CAD.
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Samuel G McCammond
Galilee Engineering Design Services
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thoughly recommend it. The wheel is way easier to roll than the old one, and
the mouse is easier to hold without getting cramp.
Does the Logitech come with the associated software that Imouse does? I find
the "acceleration" feature vital with two screens, getting from one side to
the other with the flick of a wrist (no comments please Sam!).
As with the other comments, I would be lost without my wheel now. Zooming
and scrolling is now a "no-think" operation, which pretty much decribes most
of my days anyway! How come it took them so long to introduce it?
Regards
Keith Laurie
Jack wrote in message <7u2qr3$2vo$1...@oak.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>Check in the Select web site for the Imouse.ma. I have been looking at the
>Microsoft Pro, it looks like a Logitech 4 button. Might get one whe my
>logitech dies.
>
>Jack
>
>
>Joel <rmfce*NO*SPAM*@erols.com> wrote in message
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Galilee
Note my comments from another message:
Don't ever buy their cordless,
I did and sold it again. Useless for CAD.
When I say useless, I really mean useless.
Reasons: batteries run out fast, it loses co-ordination over the screen, the
little box connected to the port on the back of the machine has to be
positioned in clear view of the mouse. Not worth the hassle.
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Galilee Engineering Design Services
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> "Joel" <rmfce*NO*SPAM*@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >My Logitech 3 button mouse is dying and needs a replacement, and is no
> >longer available. Is any model particularly better for cad than any
other?
> >What about the wheel models? Can that wheel be used for zooming or
> >scrolling? Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
>
ssea...@my-deja.com
either the Logitech Marble or Marble FX... I use the FX at work and once
I got used to the oversized 'marble' and the wierd button layout it is
extremely comfortable and accurate with Microstation. Best part is,
their both optical driven so the only moving part is the marble
itself...
Just my 2 cents,
ssearles
In article <UEEFOBIQPU4rPfr=yRvC3B...@4ax.com>,
Joel
with imouse.ma it works great in MS/J. The scrolling feature is nice, just
roll the wheel and the view scrolls up/down, hold down shift and it scrolls
left/right. I programmed the thumb button for shift, so this is a simple
operation. This allowed me to turn off the scroll bars, which frees up a
little screen area. To zoom, just hold down ctrl while rolling the wheel
and it zooms in/out centered on the cursor location. The only thing is when
I try to tentative w/the wheel/button, sometimes I roll the wheel and scroll
instead of placing a tentative point. That wheel/button seems kind of stiff,
maybe it will get better w/use. Also the "ratio" settings for imouse do not
seem to work. No matter how I set them the mouse always works the same. The
shape of the mouse is nice and I like the rubber grips on the sides.
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Galilee
I programmed the thumb button as tentative, more positive than the wheel
button. My wheel has remained stiff after a lot of usage. I programmed the
wheel button as CTRL for selecting multiple elements in conjunction with the
data button. But you are correct that the wheel tends to move when you push
the wheel button, maybe that is why they made it a little stiff so that it
doesn't move easily. I think that wheel button would be annoying to use as
tentative.
There are quite a few settings in the Logitech software which you can set to
your liking.
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>.....The only thing is when
>I try to tentative w/the wheel/button, sometimes I roll the wheel and
scroll
>instead of placing a tentative point. That wheel/button seems kind of
stiff,
>maybe it will get better w/use. Also the "ratio" settings for imouse do not
>seem to work. No matter how I set them the mouse always works the same.
This may be a throwback of the fact that I believe Imouse.ma was written to
work together with Intellimouse software, so some features may require it.
The Imouse Pro wheel is great for clicking without rolling or rolling
without clicking - something the older version found difficult.
>shape of the mouse is nice and I like the rubber grips on the sides.
>
Pro also.
Keith Kakerbeck
thumb button set a tentative snap (left-right cord) in Microstation.
Works for me!
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:34:58 -0400, "Joel"
<rmfce*NO*SPAM*@erols.com> wrote:
>My Logitech 3 button mouse is dying and needs a replacement, and is no
>longer available. Is any model particularly better for cad than any other?
>What about the wheel models? Can that wheel be used for zooming or
>scrolling? Thanks in advance for your input.
>
>
If you think education is expensive try ignorance.
Joel
Logitech MouseMan? Has anyone tried both? Maybe we should have a mouse poll
on this NG.
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Damon
I have a Logitech Mouseman+ with wheel and Keith has Intellimouse PRO
There is no diference in the operation/manipulation of imouse.ma.
It all comes down to personal preference of which one you like.
In regards to the ratio's I don't have any problem.
Are you sure you are typing in "imouse config"
I have mine set at Pan up&down 50.0 Pan sideways 50.0 Zoom 1.5
Maybe you don't have it set right. Or maybe some other MDL that you auto
load
interferes with it. Have a good look.
Yours
Damon Aspden
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Scott Harmon
I also have had no luck using the imouse.ma with my 4-button Logitech mouse.
The documentation specfically talks about what to setup in the Intellimouse
driver, not the Logitech. Anybody have any answers?
Jim Weisgram wrote in message ...
>"Joel" <rmfce*NO*SPAM*@erols.com> wrote:
>
>>My Logitech 3 button mouse is dying and needs a replacement, and is no
.
[...snip...]
Damon
Go into options and click Use Office 97 compatable
Apart from that, I have no idea but mine works perfectly.
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> My Logitech 3 button mouse is dying and needs a replacement, and is no
Scott Harmon
Damon wrote in message ...
>When setting up buttons don't set up for auto scrolling.
>Go into options and click Use Office 97 compatable
>
>Apart from that, I have no idea but mine works perfectly.
>
>
>Scott Harmon wrote in message ...
>>Jim,
>>I also have had no luck using the imouse.ma with my 4-button Logitech
>mouse.
>>The documentation specfically talks about what to setup in the
Intellimouse
>>driver, not the Logitech. Anybody have any answers?
>>
>>
>>Jim Weisgram wrote in message ...
>>>"Joel" <rmfce*NO*SPAM*@erols.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>My Logitech 3 button mouse is dying and needs a replacement, and is no
Joel
1. Make sure the wheel button is set to "middle button" in the Logitech
setup.
2. Make sure imouse.ma is in your mdl/required folder.
3. Set the values in imouse config large enough to suit your needs. I set
the pan ratios to 25 and zoom to 2.
Mine works great now that I have it set up properly.
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