Creating a Font in MS
Evelyn L Ray
MicroStation? I've read about doing it using a cell library.
Instructions? Tips? Even some tips on how to modify an existing font
would be helpful. TIA
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Inga M.
The following link answers the question: How can I create new or modify
existing characters or symbols?
http://www.bentley.com/tools/faqs/6131.htm#11
To modify an existing font:
You'll need fontexpt.ma to create a cell libary of the letters, then
cellutil.ma
to place all the cells neatly in a design file. Then drop-modify-recreate
the cells (in the same cell library), then use fontinst.ma (comes with
MicroStation) to add the cells to an existing (or new)
font resource file.
Evelyn L Ray <el...@citynet.net> wrote in message
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Colin Williams
like Arial to it and when you do a bulk rebuild of Ustn you don't loose
these fonts. Fonts in Microstation are simply cells with a level 63 box
around them that just clip together (Hence the odd spacing sometimes)
I took the standard font 23 exported it and increased the spacing by
10%, added m3, m2 and the dia symbol and hey presto.
When you export the font file, it creates a library where the name of
the letter is the ASCII number the key board sends. Use something like
celldump to create a dgn file of your cells so you can manipulate them.
Make or adjust new cells as you desire and re-import them into your
resource file. Stick it somewhere near where you store you other
office settings (hopefully outside the Ustn Directories) and get one of your
config files to point to it e.g.
MS_SYMBRSRC = z:/settings/symb/BUGATTI/font.rsc
MS_SYMBRSRC > z:/settings/symb/BUGATTI/cwd_font.rsc
MS_SYMBRSRC > z:/settings/symb/BUGATTI/lstyle.rsc
MS_SYMBRSRC > z:/settings/symb/BUGATTI/cwd_lstyle.rsc
To use these fonts either get a copy of the WYSIWYG add-on for
text, (selectable under preferences-text) or make a list of them and
use the "\ nnn" number to access any character-
Thanks to Jeffery Malter who explained this to me really well last November.
And Bentley for sending me (a non CSP non-person) the fontexpt.ma
Any questions, just ask it was dead easy once I decided to go for it.
But you will have difficulties sending information to other sites- but
I use plot files for that any way
Anthony Cox
Colin Williams Design
davep...@my-deja.com
much as you like, but bear in mind anybody that uses your drawings will
not view the text as you do, if they do not have your font resource
file and know how to use it. I would suggest you always add new fonts,
rather than modifying Bentley supplied ones.
Good Luck
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James Weisgram
>>
>I must emphasise Colin's last statement. You can add, modify fonts as
>much as you like, but bear in mind anybody that uses your drawings will
>not view the text as you do, if they do not have your font resource
>file and know how to use it. I would suggest you always add new fonts,
>rather than modifying Bentley supplied ones.
>Good Luck
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
The only problem with that is people like us, who had our own custom
font library years before MicroStation made it's appearance. So we
have a font 3 that is nothing like the Bentley library.
Our solution is to give away our entire directory structure of
customizations for others to use, but it can be quite messy.
Galilee
totally circular with the line through, not egg shaped like most of the
others. I added one I found to a Bentley font and ended up with new Font.
Sub-contracted work over the NET and forgot to send the new font. All the
drawings came back and when I loaded them another symbol was substituted
for my diameter symbol.
Sent off new Font to user, Reply: How do I install it? Time consuming
exercise to get new font into his system.
Then with new Font active I bring in an old drawing before the creation and
same problem.
My conclusion, not worth the effort, may seem good idea now but in a few
months, not so good.
--
Regards
Sam McCammond
Galilee Engineering Design Services
http://home.global.co.za/~galilee
gal...@global.co.za
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Evelyn L Ray
or modify an exist font. Actually appears to not be that difficult, but after
being reminded that it has to be "sent along" with the drawing to the client, I
decided it wasn't worth it. Wouldn't it be nice if the font somehow attached to
the dgn file and went with it. Probably crazy, I guess. The font that I want
modified is "isofont". The fractions are made too small in proportion to the
whole numbers and the inch marks are not located well, in my humble opinion.
Unfortunately, this is the only font we have for isometrics. It's a little
thing but it drives me batty because I really care what my drawings look like.
Eighty percent of our work is isometrics so it matters to me.
Galilee wrote:
> Sent off new Font to user, Reply: How do I install it? Time consuming
> exercise to get new font into his system.
> Then with new Font active I bring in an old drawing before the creation and
> same problem.
> My conclusion, not worth the effort, may seem good idea now but in a few
> months, not so good.
>
> --
> Regards
> Sam McCammond
> Galilee Engineering Design Services
> http://home.global.co.za/~galilee
> gal...@global.co.za
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Gordon Oldfield
heard them before but here goes anyway.
Stuff in "(......)" probably old hat.
I normally use the ANSI 100 font (in the standard bentley font.rsc file) for
the dia. symbol, found by opening the geometric tolerance tool in
dimensions.
(keep geo/tol. dialog open when dimensioning and pick the dia. icon to place
dia.symbol next to dimension where needed).
The only problem here is that the dia.symbol is not part of actual dim -
separate text it is, also the dia. symbol is oval, but your dgns' will be
viewable without any fancy modified font resource file ).
Other ways to shorten the pain;
-Have a clipboard copy of the ansi 100 dia. symbol - paste it when needed.
-Make a cell of the dia. symbol.
-Have a function key to switch to the ansi 100 dia. symbol font when placing
the dia. symbol text & another f/key to go back to your standard font.(do
all dims' first then dia. symbol).
... It's as clear a mud sometimes when recalling but Iv'e even seen drafies'
who have drawn in dia.symbols ??.
However, I do have a font resource file which has the true circular dia.- it
still has the original bentley fonts incorporated, which I can email (takes
less than 2min. to copy the new "font.rsc" file into your ustn).
I don't know which font you use as your standard, but "font 81" was
developed because of this same problem with not being able to find a true
circular dia.symbol and also because most of the available fonts in bentley
have a slash through the zero, and pointed '3's which I don't want.
Other usefull symbols using font 81;
-(dia. symbol - full circle, shift + n).
-abbrieviated centre line symbol, shitft + #
-degree symbol, shift+ ^
So, if you would like to check out this modified font resource file - "font
81" just shout, oh I see your'e in my part of the World too - sunny South
Africa. not too sunny at the moment...
Cheers
Gordon Oldfield.
the Drawing Office.
-----Original Message-----
From: Galilee <gal...@global.co.za>
Newsgroups: comp.cad.microstation
Date: 13 February 2000 08:55
Subject: Re: Creating a Font in MS
>Modifying fonts is a nightmare, I really like a diameter symbol which is
>totally circular with the line through, not egg shaped like most of the
>others. I added one I found to a Bentley font and ended up with new Font.
>Sub-contracted work over the NET and forgot to send the new font. All the
>drawings came back and when I loaded them another symbol was substituted
>for my diameter symbol.
>Sent off new Font to user, Reply: How do I install it? Time consuming
>exercise to get new font into his system.
>Then with new Font active I bring in an old drawing before the creation and
>same problem.
>My conclusion, not worth the effort, may seem good idea now but in a few
>months, not so good.
>
>--
>Regards
>Sam McCammond
>Galilee Engineering Design Services
>http://home.global.co.za/~galilee
>gal...@global.co.za
>"James Weisgram" <jwei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:36:32 GMT, davep...@my-deja.com wrote:
Galilee wrote in message <885ko0$ddm$1...@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>...
>Modifying fonts is a nightmare, I really like a diameter symbol which is
>totally circular with the line through, not egg shaped like most of the
>others. I added one I found to a Bentley font and ended up with new Font.
>Sub-contracted work over the NET and forgot to send the new font. All the
>drawings came back and when I loaded them another symbol was substituted
>for my diameter symbol.
>Sent off new Font to user, Reply: How do I install it? Time consuming
>exercise to get new font into his system.
>Then with new Font active I bring in an old drawing before the creation and
>same problem.
>My conclusion, not worth the effort, may seem good idea now but in a few
>months, not so good.
>
>--
>Regards
>Sam McCammond
>Galilee Engineering Design Services
>http://home.global.co.za/~galilee
>gal...@global.co.za
Kirsty Johnson
We used to use Font3 at 15 degrees angle, and then changed to font
23 so I could stick into dimensions. Exported the whole lot and then
changed the spacing by 10% and threw in a couple of extra symbols.
Now my drawings look even better.
One question- How important is it to send Microstation files out with your
text on it-
It scares me a bit to think I might send a drawing out "Live" so to speak
that can be altered and printed with our border and title block with the
same pen weights and be completely indistinguishable from mine.
I separate out built stuff and a annotation so if they want the information
for co-ordination I send them the "model" at 1:1 with a reference point
0,0,0.
They turn off the layers they don't need, build their sprinklers or columns
or whatever and then send it back to me
(Although I do it mainly with ACAD users).
If, however, they want the piece of paper, they get Plotfiles and an A4
instruction on how to send it to the plotter. No translation, no pen weight
problems
they get EXACTLY what is in front of me on my table. No slightly off
graphics
or fonts.
However this does not work when you are doing sub-contract work like Sam
did.
Do not know how it works outside of Architecture.
Anthony Cox
CWD
Gordon
Here are some solutions that I know of to this old problem, you' ve
probably heard them before but here goes anyway.
I normally use the ANSI 100 font (in the standard bentley font.rsc
file) for the dia. symbol, found by opening the geometric tolerance
tool in dimensions.
(keep geo/tol. dialog open when dimensioning and pick the dia. icon to
place dia.symbol next to dimension where needed).
The only problem here is that the dia.symbol is not part of actual
dim, separate text it is, also the dia. symbol is oval, but your dgns'
will be viewable without any fancy modified font resource file ).
Other ways to shorten the pain;
-Have a clipboard copy of the ansi 100 dia. symbol - paste it when
needed.
-Make a cell of the dia. symbol.
-Have a function key to switch to the ansi 100 dia. symbol font when
placing the dia. symbol text & another f/key to go back to your
standard font.(do all dims' first then dia. symbol).
... (even seen drafies' who have drawn in dia.symbols !??).
However, I do have a font resource file which has the true circular
dia.- it still has the original bentley fonts incorporated .
"font 81" was developed because of this same problem with not being
able to find a true circular dia.symbol and also because most of the
available fonts in bentley have a slash through the zero, and pointed
'3's which I don't want.
Cheers
Gordon Oldfield.
the Drawing Office.
Galilee
I thought I had the perfect font for ISO, number 235 but found out today it
doesn't have a plus/minus sign and the dia symbol is a bit odd but I guess
OK. I have started to use the Text Tool in Modeler instead of USTN, perfect
dia symbol. I trust there is a degree symbol in it somewhere.
--
Regards
Sam McCammond
Galilee Engineering Design Services
http://home.global.co.za/~galilee
gal...@global.co.za
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