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Wibo Posthumus

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Nov 21, 2001, 11:23:13 AM11/21/01
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I'm looking for an solution for the problem I have with deleting
elements from my drawing.

Normaly, I delete elements by selecting them with a window
(PowerSelector tool), and then press the delete key on the key bord or
press the delete tool, in the main tool box.

With some drawings it isn't possible to delete elements with de method
mentioned above.

In the problem drawings: The only way to delete items is by pressing
the delete button in the main toolbox, followed by clicking on the
element I want to delete. I have to repeat this for every single
element I want to delete.

I think there must be a setting in microstation wich is able to lock
elements with the purpose to protect elements from beiing deleted by a
sertain user or so.

Does anyone have the same problems as me? or does anyone knows a
solution for this problem?

I'm looking forward to any reaction on this message

Thanks in advance!

Wibo Posthumus

Steve Young

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Nov 21, 2001, 5:19:34 PM11/21/01
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Hi,

If you are able to delete them using the delete tool, then select the
elements, then they are not locked. The problem may be with the element
selection tool or powerselector. The powerselector "window" tool uses an
inside lock by default. If you click the "window" icon again, the tool will
work in an overlap mode. That way you get everything inside and everything
touching your window.

Does this only happen in 3D files?


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Wibo Posthumus

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Nov 23, 2001, 3:57:55 AM11/23/01
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"Steve Young" <Mind...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:<WLVK7.752$ud.1...@news-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>...

> Hi,
>
> If you are able to delete them using the delete tool, then select the
> elements, then they are not locked. The problem may be with the element
> selection tool or powerselector. The powerselector "window" tool uses an
> inside lock by default. If you click the "window" icon again, the tool will
> work in an overlap mode. That way you get everything inside and everything
> touching your window.
I am aware of the powerselector, inside and overlap mode. But the
"deleting problem" is still unsolved.

>
> Does this only happen in 3D files?
For now, I only had this problems with 2D files. I don't know if the
problem also occurs with 3D files because I don't use 3D files often.

Anyway, thanks for your reaction

Steve Young

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Nov 23, 2001, 6:44:43 AM11/23/01
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WP,

If you are able to share the file, you could send it to me for a look

Dennis Barker

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Nov 23, 2001, 8:25:26 AM11/23/01
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Wibo,

I am not sure I follow exactly what you are asking, but if you are saying
that there are some elements that you can select, but not delete, then it is
possible that these elements are "Locked". If you use the Analyse Element
(the I - Info Icon) and select one of these elements, then it should tell
you if the element is "Locked" or "Not locked". You can change it there, but
it will be quicker to select all the elements and issue the key-in command
"Change Unlock" and this will unlock any locked elements.

If the problem is that you have elements that you cannot select with the
selection tools, then there may be some corruption of these elements. Have
you tried selecting them with the old select element tool or the
PowerSelector 2point (line) tool? Your other option maybe to enclose the
elements with a fence and delete them using the fence delete tool with the
inside or overlap setting as appropriate. If all else fails, you might have
to run the file through EDG to see if there is any corruption, and if so,
fix it up.

HTH

Dennis Barker
Innovision Technologies Pty Ltd
www.innovis.com.au

Chuck Gummo

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Nov 26, 2001, 8:00:30 AM11/26/01
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Wibo,

The design file you are working in may have settings saved with 'Selection
Set Lock : OFF'. Turn it back on with the following keyin...

"LOCK SELECTION ON"

Save settings (FILEDESIGN), so that next time you open file 'Selection Set
Lock : ON', remains on.

-Chuck Gummo

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Steve Young

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Nov 27, 2001, 10:57:54 PM11/27/01
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Nice catch Gummo!! I bet that's it.

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Steve Young

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Nov 27, 2001, 11:01:24 PM11/27/01
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ummm... I mean Mr. Gummo. Your wife calls you Gummy doesn't she. :,)

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Chuck Gummo

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Nov 28, 2001, 6:56:24 AM11/28/01
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> ummm... I mean Mr. Gummo. Your wife calls you Gummy doesn't she. :,)

No. But that wouldn't be so bad. :-)

Chuck Gummo


john o dwyer

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Nov 30, 2001, 8:53:49 PM11/30/01
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"Chuck Gummo" <cgummo@(nospam)gfnet.com> wrote in message news:<E6453B9F91A8D311B279009027A1B1130607BB10@seesar1>...

i'm not sure if you resolved your problem but in the old days of
version 3 and 4 if you place a fence around all your design file
elements, set aa=360 and then rotate original if forces microstation
to re-write the design file.
you may then have access to all your elements.

john o dwyer

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