defining color

[Katherina Law]

I have a floor plan of a building, and I would like
to add color to individual rooms, but I found that
when I use solid to define the color entity, it covers
everything(like the room number,etc), so I am wondering
if there is a way, to bring the solid color into the
background so the text will show up on top? I am hoping
that the color define will be like a transparent effect.
Do you know if this can be done in AutoCAd, I've read
the manual and can't find anything on that. Please help!
I choose not to hatch because it is slow and would result
in a hugh file?

Many thanks in advance,
Katherina Law

[Jon Rossen]

l...@hera.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Katherina Law) writes:

Katherina,

I hope that I am understanding your question correctly.
My suggestion is for you to try and move your text up in the
z dimension slightly so it is on top of the rest of the entities
rather than being in the same drawing plane.

later,

jon rossen (rot...@well.sf.ca.us)

[Stephen Schutt]

dear katherina

my name is stephen schutt and i work for the university of rochester in the
design construction devision.

i do this all the time!

what you need to do is create the color in the rooms with solid.
then freeze that layer.
then take all the object that you want to be place on top of the color and
make a wblock of them with and insert at 0,0 (or any insert point)
save to drawing without these entities in the drawing.
thaw the color layer.
then insert the wblock that you made.
i have had good luck doing this.
i have a hp paintjet xl300
i know it also works with the hp designjet 650c

if you have "any" question please e-mail me and i will attept to answer them
for you.

have a great day!!!!

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[FRS1000]

Try hatching the area instead of creating a solid mass of color.
Changing the cross hatch spacing will give the effect of lighter
and darker color and creating a polyline around any text in each
area and excluding these areas in your hatch pattern will allow
the text to show through.

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[Paul Lenz]

rot...@well.sf.ca.us (Jon Rossen) writes:

>>I have a floor plan of a building, and I would like
>>to add color to individual rooms, but I found that
>>when I use solid to define the color entity, it covers
>>everything(like the room number,etc), so I am wondering
>>if there is a way, to bring the solid color into the
>>background so the text will show up on top?

>I hope that I am understanding your question correctly.

>My suggestion is for you to try and move your text up in the
>z dimension slightly so it is on top of the rest of the entities
>rather than being in the same drawing plane.

No, this doesn't help.

You must do something that the SOLIDs are older entities than the
things you want to see above them.

Try this:

- Place the SOLIDs on another layer and switch it off
- Make a block of the other entities
- Explode this block

By this way, these entities are "brand new", and when you switch
the SOLID layer on, they lay over the SOLIDs.

Sometimes this doesn't work correctly (I don't know why). The you
must regenerate AND redraw your drawing.

Proppi

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[daniel stine]

On Tue, 29 Nov 1994, Stephen Schutt wrote:

> dear katherina
>
> my name is stephen schutt and i work for the university of rochester in the
> design construction devision.
>
> i do this all the time!
>
> what you need to do is create the color in the rooms with solid.
> then freeze that layer.
> then take all the object that you want to be place on top of the color and
> make a wblock of them with and insert at 0,0 (or any insert point)
> save to drawing without these entities in the drawing.
> thaw the color layer.
> then insert the wblock that you made.
> i have had good luck doing this.
> i have a hp paintjet xl300
> i know it also works with the hp designjet 650c
>
>

Hi,
This looks like it will work but there is a faster way.
First draw solids on separate layer, then freeze that layer.
Next, type copy, at the select entity prompt select ALL or the entitys
that are in the area in and around the solid areas, then at the pick
first point prompt, pick a point anywhere or type 0,0 (enter) at pick
second point prompt type @ (enter). Next type erase, at the select
entitys to erase prompt type p (enter) (enter). Finally, thaw the layer
with the solids and do a regen. This command sequence put the entitys
that where under the solid on top. sound hard, but works great.
This also works with psfills.
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[Stephen Schutt]

PAUL.

AFTER YOU INSERT THE BLOCK WITH YOUR ENTITIES BACK INTO YOU DRAWING DON'T
EXPLODE IT!
THIS WILL WORK EVERY TIME.

[Alan Richard Knowles]

> l...@hera.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Katherina Law) writes:
>
> >if there is a way, to bring the solid color into the
> >background so the text will show up on top? I am hoping

> >Katherina Law

Katherina,

if you have a HPGL2 plotter then getting hold of the HP driver software
is a good idea, it gives you options on shade percentage and merging
overlapping lines, the results sound exactly like what your after

Aparently it's included with R13..

Regards
Alan