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Matthew Taylor

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Nov 14, 2001, 6:06:49 PM11/14/01
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In AutoCAD 2000 in the plot dialog box, & on the properties bar for
viewports, there is a scale option. In it are a list of standard scales
(most of which are useless to me & that I would never consider using).
Is there any way of modifying the list of standard scales to display other
scales on the list?

Matthew


Dave Jones

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Nov 14, 2001, 9:03:02 PM11/14/01
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"Matthew Taylor" <matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote in message
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Matthew,
no way to alter the existing scale options that I know of but you can add
the following to a partial menu to get a ZOOMPS drop down menu to have
whatever scales you want. Feel free to alter as you wish
Dave

***POP1
**ZOOMPS
[ZoomPS]
[Zooming Paperspace]
[--]
[FULL]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1XP
[-> ARCH]
[Scales]
[--]
[6" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/2XP
[3" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/4XP
[1 1/2" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/8XP
[1" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/12XP
[3/4" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/16XP
[1/2" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/24XP
[3/8" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/32XP
[1/4" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/48XP
[3/16" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/64XP
[1/8" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/96XP
[3/32" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/128XP
[1/16" ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/192XP
[<-1/32"]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/384XP
[-> DECI-ARCH]
[Scales]
[--]
[6 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 6XP
[3 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 3XP
[1 1/2 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1.5XP
[1 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1XP
[3/4 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 3/4XP
[1/2 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/2XP
[3/8 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 3/8XP
[1/4 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/4XP
[3/16 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 3/16XP
[1/8 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/8XP
[3/32 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 3/32XP
[1/16 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/16XP
[<-1/32]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/32XP
[-> ENGR]
[Scales]
[--]
[1=10' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/120XP
[1=20' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/240XP
[1=25' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/300XP
[1=30' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/360XP
[1=40' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/480XP
[1=50' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/600XP
[1=60' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/720XP
[1=100' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/1200XP
[1=200' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/2400XP
[1=300' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/3600XP
[1=400' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/4800XP
[1=500' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/6000XP
[1=600' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/7200XP
[1=800' ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/9600XP
[<-1=1000']^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/12000XP
[-> DECI-ENGR]
[Scales]
[--]
[1=10 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/10XP
[1=20 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/20XP
[1=25 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/25XP
[1=30 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/30XP
[1=40 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/40XP
[1=50 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/50XP
[1=60 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/60XP
[1=100 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/100XP
[1=200 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/200XP
[1=300 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/300XP
[1=400 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/400XP
[1=500 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/500XP
[1=600 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/600XP
[1=800 ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/800XP
[<-1=1000]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/1000XP
[-> METRIC]
[Scales]
[--]
[1=2 (0.5) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/2XP
[1=2.5 (0.4) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.4XP
[1=5 (0.2) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/5XP
[1=10 (0.1) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/10XP
[1=20 (0.05) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/20XP
[1=25 (0.04) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/25XP
[1=33.33 (0.03) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.03XP
[1=40 (0.025) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/40XP
[1=50 (0.02) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/50XP
[1=80 (0.0125)]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/80XP
[1=100 (0.01) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/100XP
[1=200 (0.005) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/200XP
[1=250 (0.004) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/250XP
[1=400 (0.0025) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/400XP
[1=500 (0.002) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/500XP
[1=800 (0.00125)]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/800XP
[1=1000 (0.001) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/1000XP
[1=1250 (0.0008) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/1250XP
[1=1500 (0.00066) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/1500XP
[1=2000 (0.0005) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/2000XP
[<-1=2500 (0.0004)]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 1/2500XP
[-> METRIC (ENGLISH CONV.)]
[Scales]
[--]
[1=2 (0.5) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.019685XP
[1=2.5 (0.4) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.015748XP
[1=5 (0.2) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.007874XP
[1=10 (0.1) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.003937XP
[1=20 (0.05) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.0019685XP
[1=25 (0.04) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.0015748XP
[1=33.33 (0.03) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.0011811XP
[1=40 (0.025) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.00098425XP
[1=50 (0.02) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.0007874XP
[1=80 (0.0125)]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.000492125XP
[1=100 (0.01) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.0003937XP
[1=200 (0.005) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.00019685XP
[1=250 (0.004) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.00015748XP
[1=400 (0.0025) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.000098425XP
[1=500 (0.002) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.00007874XP
[1=800 (0.00125)]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.0000492125XP
[1=1000 (0.001) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.00003937XP
[1=1250 (0.0008) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.000031496XP
[1=1500 (0.00066) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM
0.000026246664042XP
[1=2000 (0.0005) ]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.000019685XP
[<-1=2500 (0.0004)]^c^cmspace ._ZOOM 0.000015748XP


Matthew Taylor

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Nov 16, 2001, 7:33:52 PM11/16/01
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"Dave Jones" <da...@ddptrinidad.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Matthew Taylor" <matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:tv5vs5p...@corp.supernews.com...
> > In AutoCAD 2000 in the plot dialog box, & on the properties bar for
> > viewports, there is a scale option. In it are a list of standard scales
> > (most of which are useless to me & that I would never consider using).
> > Is there any way of modifying the list of standard scales to display
other
> > scales on the list?
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >
> Matthew,
> no way to alter the existing scale options that I know of but you can add
> the following to a partial menu to get a ZOOMPS drop down menu to have
> whatever scales you want. Feel free to alter as you wish
> Dave
>

Thanks for the tip.
It still seems weird & half thought out to me that they put in this feature
of picking scales off a list, but use a set of scales that many people will
never be using. Also, why does it still show imperial scales if your drawing
is metric?
What was going through Autodesks mind when they added this feature & decided
that everyone would only want to quickly pick the scales on their list.

Matthew


Dave Jones

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Nov 16, 2001, 8:15:16 PM11/16/01
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I stopped trying to figure out what Adesk is thinking about 12 years ago :)
That's what makes Acad such a great program...it allows you to program
around the short sightedness of Adesk programmers...
Dave
(SNIP)

ND

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Nov 17, 2001, 3:20:45 PM11/17/01
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:33:52 -0000, "Matthew Taylor"
<matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote:

>"Dave Jones" <da...@ddptrinidad.com> wrote in message
>news:tv68j6o...@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Matthew Taylor" <matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:tv5vs5p...@corp.supernews.com...
>> > In AutoCAD 2000 in the plot dialog box, & on the properties bar for
>> > viewports, there is a scale option. In it are a list of standard scales
>> > (most of which are useless to me & that I would never consider using).
>> > Is there any way of modifying the list of standard scales to display
>other
>> > scales on the list?
>> >
>> > Matthew

Select viewport in paperspace
Then select PROPERTIES
Select SCALE
If you want a scale other than the custom ones offered
type the scale you want in as a fraction and it is done.
Below is a menu file I use to get a drop down list of scales I can
choose from.
It is possible to edit it to give whatever scales one wishes.

Hope that is of some help
Noel Donagh

//
// AutoCAD menu file - E:\Program Files\AutoCAD
2002\Support\myscale.mnu
//

***MENUGROUP=MYSCALE

***POP1
[Scale]

[--]
ID_1_50000_0 [1:50000]^C^Cms zoom 1/50000xp
ID_1_10000_0 [1:10000]^C^Cms zoom 1/10000xp
ID_1_5000_0 [1:5000]^C^Cms zoom 1/5000xp
ID_1_2500_0 [1:2500]^C^Cms zoom 1/2500xp
ID_1_1000_0 [1:1000]^C^Cms zoom 1/1000xp
ID_1_500_0 [1:500]^C^Cms zoom 1/500xp
ID_1_200_0 [1:200]^C^Cms zoom 1/200xp
ID_1_125_0 [1:125]^C^Cms zoom 1/125xp
ID_1_100_0 [1:100]^C^Cms zoom 1/100xp
ID_1_75_0 [1:75]^C^Cms zoom 1/75xp
ID_1_50_0 [1:50]^C^Cms zoom 1/50xp
ID_1_25_0 [1:25]^C^Cms zoom 1/25xp
ID_1_20_0 [1:20]^C^Cms zoom 1/20xp
ID_1_10_0 [1:10]^C^Cms zoom 1/10xp
ID_1_5_0 [1:5]^C^Cms zoom 1/5xp
ID_1_0 [<-1]^C^Cms zoom 1xp
[--]

***TOOLBARS

//
// End of AutoCAD menu file - E:\Program Files\AutoCAD
2002\Support\myscale.mnu
//

Matthew Taylor

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Nov 18, 2001, 3:29:04 PM11/18/01
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"ND" <ndo...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Select viewport in paperspace
> Then select PROPERTIES
> Select SCALE
> If you want a scale other than the custom ones offered
> type the scale you want in as a fraction and it is done.
> Below is a menu file I use to get a drop down list of scales I can
> choose from.
> It is possible to edit it to give whatever scales one wishes.
>
> Hope that is of some help
> Noel Donagh

Thanks - Matthew.
However, my original reason for wanting to know if this was possible, but
which I didn't mention was not because I am am bothered by having to enter
the scales manualy, but more because when I select a viewport & look at the
scale of it, it invariably says "custom scale" with the scale written
compounded as a decimal fraction. What I want is a quick way of seeing what
scale the viewport is at currently.
(I know I can do it with the express tools, but it just seems that it would
be nice if it showed up as a ratio in the properties box.)
Thanks for the advice anyway

Matthew


Dennis Shinn

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Nov 18, 2001, 8:21:12 PM11/18/01
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:33:52 -0000, "Matthew Taylor"
<matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote:

>It still seems weird & half thought out to me that they put in this feature

>of picking scales off a list, ....

After *years* of getting used to specifying the size of paper to which
to plot, it seemed also weird to me to select a sheet size off a list
rather than being able to define several user specified sizes right
there at the top level in the plot dialog. For me it made the regular
plotting operation a real effort. But on the other hand, we, I at any
rate, don't think twice about selecting a 'standard' sheet size for
printing a word processing document.

That doesn't make either one easier to use in AutoCAD after what most
of us have been used to. The similarity between selecting plot scale
and paper/sheet size from a canned list seemed to suggest a
coordinated mindset lacking a great deal of forethought.

jo...@fel.u-net.com.invalid

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Nov 20, 2001, 11:39:18 PM11/20/01
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Slightly off the mark but -

If you dimension in pspace and your current dimstyle is appropriate to
the viewport in question then Dimlfac is set to the viewport scale and
displays in the comfortable 1:50 format rather than (for example) 0.02

John B

johnbogie btinternet.com
Put the "at" in the gap.

ND

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Nov 22, 2001, 1:20:30 PM11/22/01
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HI Dave
Did you get this?

Noel Donagh


On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:33:52 -0000, "Matthew Taylor"
<matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote:

>"Dave Jones" <da...@ddptrinidad.com> wrote in message
>news:tv68j6o...@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Matthew Taylor" <matthew....@NOSPAM.mtaylor.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:tv5vs5p...@corp.supernews.com...
>> > In AutoCAD 2000 in the plot dialog box, & on the properties bar for
>> > viewports, there is a scale option. In it are a list of standard scales
>> > (most of which are useless to me & that I would never consider using).
>> > Is there any way of modifying the list of standard scales to display
>other
>> > scales on the list?
>> >
>> > Matthew

Select viewport in paperspace
Then select PROPERTIES
Select SCALE
If you want a scale other than the custom ones offered
type the scale you want in as a fraction and it is done.
Below is a menu file I use to get a drop down list of scales I can
choose from.
It is possible to edit it to give whatever scales one wishes.

Hope that is of some help
Noel Donagh

//

***MENUGROUP=MYSCALE

***POP1
[Scale]

***TOOLBARS

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