KAIWAN Internet Access in Southern California.
je...@kaiwan.com
Welcome to KAIWAN Public Access Internet On-Line Services.
User accounts are available for everyone who would like to use our service
for non-profit and non-business related purposes and who will abide by the
NSFnet rules.
KAIWAN can be accessed through Internet or dial-in phone lines. Since
KAIWAN is directly connected to Internet, all the Internet resources are
accessible by KAIWAN users.
Our cheapest rate is $11.00/month for users who telnet into KAIWAN only
and do not access KAIWAN's modems and dial-in lines.
Example of the usage of our Accounts:
* FLAT Rate(monthly or quarterly) with no per hour charge and no connect
time charge.
* Shell (csh, sh, ksh, tcsh, r9, bash, zsh ...) access.
* Disk space starts from one mega byte.
* No access time per day limit, and you can use as often as you want.
* No access time length limit, and you can access your account 24Hrs.
* Read over a couple thousand Newsgroups.
* All dial-in ports are equipped with ZyXEL 16.8K super high speed modems,
which allow you to download more files using less time.
* File transfer protocols (FTP, X/Y/Z/U modem, Kermit)
* Internet domain E-Mail address user...@kaiwan.com.
* Read news and E-mail with direct Internet connection.
* Full Internet access (telnet, ftp, rlogin, irc...)
* Tons of PD utilities (We will add any upon request).
* New local dialing POPs will be added in schedule or upon requests.
* uqwk to collect your mails and news for off-line reading/posting.
* pine, elm, mm ... mail readers for you to choose.
* rn, trn, tin, nn ... News readers for you to choose.
* MUD, irc, gopher, lynx....
* POP3
*** Too many to list here.
** Are you paying a per hour charge FULL Internet Access UN?X account?
** Are you paying a per hour charge FULL Internet Access UN?X account?
** Are you paying a long distance call to access your UNIX account?
** Are you paying a long distance call to read/write your E-Mail?
** Are you tired of your account being changed quarter by quarter?
** Are you tired of your account being terminated semester by semester?
** Are you tired of your boss scanning your account for unknown reasons?
** Are you tired of BBSs' one time per day and one hour per day limit?
** Are you tired of BBSs' busy phone line?
** Do you want a personal account for good?
** Do you want a permanent E-Mail address for good?
** Do you want to print your E-Mail address on your Business Card?
** Do you want to search for a possible job opportunity?
** Do you want access to the vast information a worldwide network can provide?
KAIWAN is both your answer and solution. You can take advantage our POP
and save a long distance call. You can dial-in to one of our local POP
and then telnet into your school accounts or company accounts. You can
keep your private messages on KAIWAN free from worry that your boss is
behind your back. You can join as many newsgroups as you like. You can
FTPing/Telneting around the world through Internet. People who are
searching for a job opportunity can also read newsgroups like
'ba.jobs.offered', 'misc.jobs.offered.entry', 'misc.jobs.offered',
'misc.jobs.contract', 'ba.jobs.contract' and post resumes on
'misc.jobs.resumes'.
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*** How to reach KAIWAN ***
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1. If you have a Internet user account in school or your company, then you
can reach KAIWAN by "telnet kaiwan.com" or "telnet 192.215.30.2". You
can also use KAIWAN Anonymous FTP service by "ftp kaiwan.com" to mget
information files in the "pub/KAIWAN" directory.
2. If can not access FTP or telnet, then you can E-mail in...@kaiwan.com
for more information.
3. If you can not get to KAIWAN through above procedures, then you can
call our data phone numbers(list below). Remember to set your modem
configuration to 8-N-1 and CTS/RTS Hardware Flow Control. All of our
dial-in lines equip with ZyXEL U-1496E V.32bis/V.32/V.42/V.42bis/MNP 5
16.8K/14.4K/9.6K/2.4K/1.2K super high speed modems.
4. You can also get KAIWAN information by "finger ro...@kaiwan.com".
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*** Our POP Location and Data lines number ***
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Garden Grove Station
Data Phone Lines# (714) 539-0829 (Multiple Lines)
Local Calling Area: Some South East parts of LA county and Northern part of
Orange County.
LakeWood(310) Brea Long Beach/Alamitos(310)
Buena Park Cypress Westminster
Huntington Beach La Habra Fullerton
Anaheim Garden Grove Santa Ana
Placentia Costa Mesa Yorba Linda
Orange Irvine Newport Beach.
Fountain Valley Stanton Los Alamitos
Cerritos Tustin Seal Beach
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Mission Viejo Station
Data Phone Lines# (714) 452-9165 (Multiple Lines)
(714) 830-6061
830-6062
830-6063
830-6064
Local Calling Areas: Southern part of Orange County.
Irvine Silverado Trabuco
Saddleback Valley Laguna Beach Newport Beach
Capistrano Valley Rancho Viejo Lake Forest
Laguna Hills Laguna Niguel Rancho Santa Margarita
San Juan Capistrano
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Gardena Station
Data Phone Lines# (310) 527-4279 (Multiple Lines)
Local Calling Areas: South Bay and Los Angels
(Areas between south of 10 and west of 605 to Pacific Ocean )
Compton El Segundo Gardena
Hawthorne Inglewood Lomita
Redondo San Pedro Torrance
Culver City Downey Lakewood
Long Beach L.A. 1,5,6,7,8,9,11,12 Mar Vista
Rancho Palos Verdes Lomita Carso
Dominguez Compton Lawndale
Hawthorne Hermosa Beach Manhattan Beach
LA LAX Marina Del Rey Venice
Rolling Hills Playa Del Rey Redondo Beach
Palos Verdes Estates Rolling Hills Estates Signal Hill
Bellflower Paramount Lynwood
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San Gabriel Valley Station
Data Phone Lines# (818) 579-6701 (Multiple Lines)
Local Calling Areas: San Gabriel Valley
Pasadena Norwalk Monterey Park
L.A. 3,4 Sierra Madre Arcadia
Alhambra Montebello El Monte
Pico Rivera Whittier La Puente
Covina/Baldwin Park Azusa/Glendora Monrovia
South Pasadena San Marino Temple City
Monrovia Altadena Azusa
Rosemead Monterey Park Montebello
Pico Rivera Whittier Hacienda Heights
City of Industry East L.A. San Gabriel
Alhambra South Pasadena San Marino
Altadena Sierra Madre Rosemead
Duarte Valinda Walnut
Rowland Heights South El Monte South San Gabriel
Irwindale Santa Fe Springs West Covina
La Mirada
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Van Nuys Station (soon)
Data Phone Lines# (818) 756-0180 (Multiple Lines)
Local Calling Areas: San Fernando Valley
Northridge Canoga Park Reseda
Woodland Hills Tarzana Hidden Hills
Calabasas Glenview Encino
Granada Hills Poter Ranch Sharman Oaks
Panorama City North Hills Mission Hills
Sylmar Lake View Terrace Shadow Hills
Arleta Studio City Universal City
Magnola Park Eagle Rock Verdugo City
Chatsworth Santa Monica Granada
Sepulveda Pacoima Sun Valley
Van Nuys North Hollywood West L.A.
Beverly Hills Sunland/Tujunga Burbank
Culver City Mar Vista Glendale
San Fernando L.A. 2,11,13,14 Westwood
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Jim Woodard
truely great and the best bargan I have ever seen. Also, when ever I
needed help they were right there to give me the proper advice, being at
the time I was a Internet newbee.
Jim
Brett Miller - Support Engineer
I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
I dont already have?
Manuel D. Garcia
>
>In article <CJ6un...@kaiwan.com> jwoo...@kaiwan.com (Jim Woodard) writes:
>>This is an un-solicited testamonial to Kaiwan Internet services. They are
>>truely great and the best bargan I have ever seen. Also, when ever I
>I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
>the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
>and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
>Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
>I dont already have?
A lot of people read usenet through small bbs's that only offer e-mail and
partial newsfeeds. Usually those sytems are running waffle or something
like that. Many people find out about the internet by learning from the bbs's
and then migrating to a commercial provider.
Then there are those individuals that for one reason or another would like
to change providers. Better customer service, local phone numbers, lower
access rates, etc.
And then there are those who are in school and are finishing up and will like
to continue to have net access in some form, or those whose companies or
organizations prohibit accessing their machines for personal use.
I would tend to believe that the ads for internet service are geared towards
that audience.
--
Manuel D. Garcia
y...@nic.cerf.net *Traditional Disclaimers Apply*
y...@win.ia.com
James Deibele
>I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
>the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
>and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
>Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
>I dont already have?
You're reading <Usenet>, which is not the same as the Internet. In your
case, Usenet is available on your Internet machines, but there are a lot
of people reading Usenet on straight MS-DOS machines running PC-Board or
TBBS or whatever. These machines receive their Usenet feed via UUCP or
something similar - or via satellite broadcast. They're not connected
to the Internet.
Why would someone with an Internet connection want another connection?
You might be looking for another job and not want anybody where you're
working to know that - mail does bounce and there are snoopy bosses
and/or sysadmins. You might have a lifestyle or religious or political
beliefs that you don't want your coworkers to know about. You might not
get a complete feed of all the newsgroups at work.
You might want a permanent address that follows you when you change jobs
- you just edit your .forward in your home directory and mail goes to
wherever you are. This is particularly good for contractors, who can
read mail at company A during your 3-month contract there, then it goes
to company B, etc.
As to why anyone would do business with KAIWAN, I dunno. They've posted
their ad all over the place - misc.forsale.computers.mac, for example -
and seem to have no idea as to what netiquette is.
There are a lot of places that sell what KAIWAN does for 3/4, 1/2, or
even less - and have been doing it for years instead of months. But you
don't seem them plastering ads in every imaginable - or otherwise -
newsgroup ... Send mail to in...@teleport.com for one example. There
are others ...
KAIWAN and RabbitNet? "Imminent demise of the net predicted ..."
--
jam...@teleport.com "4710 newsgroups & nothing on ..."
Full internet (ftp, telnet, irc, ppp) available. Voice: (503) 223-4245
(503) 220-1016 2400, N81. Login as "new" to setup an account.
Providing Internet email since 1987. $60 for one-year telnet-only access
Kevin Kane
Brett Miller - Support Engineer <bmi...@landesk.intel.com> wrote:
>I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
>the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
>and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
>Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
>I dont already have?
I think this is targeted at people who only have partial net access..
like someone who can only telnet but nothing else (I know someone who
is in this situation).
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Kevin Kane * Rockville, Maryland, USA
kk...@nyx.cs.du.edu ...!uunet!nyx.cs.du.edu!kkane
Paul
: I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
: the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
: and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
: Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
: I dont already have?
There are BBSs all over the world that offer only email and news.
There are commercial institutions that limit employee's use of the net. There
are students graduating or metriculating who will lose their .edu accounts.
I can do this all day... :)
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Paul McGoldrick | 4435 Redondo Beach Blvd. | Virtue is its own punishment.
prea...@netcom.com | Suite 249 | --------
CI$ 70414,1675 | Lawndale, CA 90260 | Nothing to excess, save excess.
ice9
>
> Welcome to KAIWAN Public Access Internet On-Line Services.
>
>User accounts are available for everyone who would like to use our service
>for non-profit and non-business related purposes and who will abide by the
>NSFnet rules.
>
Since KAIWAN is connected to the net through ISI, they purport to only take
accounts not violating the NSF Acceptable Use Policy in the above junk-mail
ad. However, it would appear that they themselves are violating that
policy by reselling their connection for profit. It seems to me that
they should not be in business in this manner as they are flagrantly
violating the NSFnet AUP. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't buy
service from someone who is violating the AUP to provide cheap service to
their clients. How they remain in business is a mystery to me.
That and supposedly non-confederate testimonials aside, I've tried their
service and, obviously, went elsewhere.
ICE9
Sameer Manek:SysOp
> In article <2ghl4k$l...@ornews.intel.com>,
> Brett Miller - Support Engineer <bmi...@landesk.intel.com> wrote:
> >I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
> >the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
> >and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
> >Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
> >I dont already have?
>
> I think this is targeted at people who only have partial net access..
> like someone who can only telnet but nothing else (I know someone who
> is in this situation).
I don't know if there are too many people who would pay $11/month
to do what Kaiwan wants them too do. If one can telnet they can
play muds, get usenet through some of the usenet servers that are
telnetable. What else is there? Just a permenant mail site, well thats
no biggie, all you need is to get some local sysop whose run a BBS f
for quite a while and have them set a forwarding alias to what
ever site you maybe working at.
Kaiwan probably is really hard up for sales, assume that if what one
reader just said about them posting to the comp.forsale.mac.???
newsgroup. I would expect that their biggest revenue should come
in from dial up and slip connection accounts.
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Sameer Manek Sea...@yesanext.thetech.com
-=SysOp of the Big Brother BBS=-
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Kevin Kane
Sameer Manek:SysOp <sea...@yesanext.thetech.com> wrote:
>I don't know if there are too many people who would pay $11/month
>to do what Kaiwan wants them too do. If one can telnet they can
>play muds, get usenet through some of the usenet servers that are
>telnetable. What else is there? Just a permenant mail site, well thats
>no biggie, all you need is to get some local sysop whose run a BBS f
>for quite a while and have them set a forwarding alias to what
>ever site you maybe working at.
Some people prefer to have it all in one easy to access nicely wrapped
package. Some people prefer to use TinyFugue to access MUDs, and
public IRC clients are few and far between nowadays. Depends on you
obviously.
cwo...@genesis.nred.ma.us
(Snip,snip)
>I'm no Internet wiz, but if I can read the KAIWAN advertisement here on
>the Internet, wouldn't that argue that I already have Internet access
>and don't need KAIWAN's services? Who is the ad intended to target?
>Or rather, since I'm on the net, what services can KAIWAN offer me that
>I dont already have?
Maybe the fact that the services are offered FREE OF CHARGE! If it were
not LD for me, I would give it a call!
-Chris
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