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Ms-Dos and Windows 7 have a major weakness related to date/times when copieing files.
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Skybuck Flying
Nov 11, 2015, 2:50:47 PM11/11/15
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Hello,
My music virtual harddisk ran out of space. So I created a new virtual
harddisk/volume of 24 GB and copied to previous 16 GB towards it.
I was in doubt if I should delete the old one... fortunately I did not...
first of all I did not know if the copy proceeded correctly... since I was
webbrowsing while it copied.
Second of all I already know windows can fok up simple things like this.
Also ya never know when there might be a bit error/corruption going on... so
good idea to keep the old one for a while.. and test the new one.
And sure enough windows 7 made a complete mess out of the date and time of
the folders mostly and the files too.
Some folders have the new date when the copied happened and some have the
old date...
It's completely weird how this happens.
What's even worse is that ms-dos has no command for as far as I know that
can change a file's date or time ? Otherwise it could be as simple as
creating a batchfile to scan the old folder structure and apply it to the
new one...
But maybe that not possible anyway.
The same happened to my old source code files... which is also kinda
painfull.
I guess I will have to write a tool... to scan the old folders and old
files... for creation dates/times and modification dates/times and then
apply them to the new files.
I have also seen some weird advice like use xcopy or even more dangerous
like robocopy...
Such advice is bad in general... a fokkup in such a command could be a very
costly mistake... for example forgetting the subdirectory command for xcopy
? or even worse.... robocopy can delete files.
In other words... copieing files via some shitty ms-dos command is a no-no
in the year 2015.
1 simply copy & paste operation was enough to copy the entire "music" folder
from disk to disk.
I find it hard to swallow... that such a FOK UP by Microsoft has not been
corrected yet ?! There is no option in Explorer to change the way it copies
files and folders ?!
There is no option to enable a pop-up asking you how you would like windows
to copy the files ?!
But Microsoft ISSS Busy... installing all kinds of SPYWARE crap on my PC ?!
As far as I am concerned Windows 7 IS COMPLETELY UNUSABLE/UNRELIABLE for any
RELIABLE archiving.... of files/information where date and time is important
?!
Fricking crazy that something as simply as keeping track of dates and times
is apperently completely beyond their comprehension ?!
Bye,
Skybuck.
My music virtual harddisk ran out of space. So I created a new virtual
harddisk/volume of 24 GB and copied to previous 16 GB towards it.
I was in doubt if I should delete the old one... fortunately I did not...
first of all I did not know if the copy proceeded correctly... since I was
webbrowsing while it copied.
Second of all I already know windows can fok up simple things like this.
Also ya never know when there might be a bit error/corruption going on... so
good idea to keep the old one for a while.. and test the new one.
And sure enough windows 7 made a complete mess out of the date and time of
the folders mostly and the files too.
Some folders have the new date when the copied happened and some have the
old date...
It's completely weird how this happens.
What's even worse is that ms-dos has no command for as far as I know that
can change a file's date or time ? Otherwise it could be as simple as
creating a batchfile to scan the old folder structure and apply it to the
new one...
But maybe that not possible anyway.
The same happened to my old source code files... which is also kinda
painfull.
I guess I will have to write a tool... to scan the old folders and old
files... for creation dates/times and modification dates/times and then
apply them to the new files.
I have also seen some weird advice like use xcopy or even more dangerous
like robocopy...
Such advice is bad in general... a fokkup in such a command could be a very
costly mistake... for example forgetting the subdirectory command for xcopy
? or even worse.... robocopy can delete files.
In other words... copieing files via some shitty ms-dos command is a no-no
in the year 2015.
1 simply copy & paste operation was enough to copy the entire "music" folder
from disk to disk.
I find it hard to swallow... that such a FOK UP by Microsoft has not been
corrected yet ?! There is no option in Explorer to change the way it copies
files and folders ?!
There is no option to enable a pop-up asking you how you would like windows
to copy the files ?!
But Microsoft ISSS Busy... installing all kinds of SPYWARE crap on my PC ?!
As far as I am concerned Windows 7 IS COMPLETELY UNUSABLE/UNRELIABLE for any
RELIABLE archiving.... of files/information where date and time is important
?!
Fricking crazy that something as simply as keeping track of dates and times
is apperently completely beyond their comprehension ?!
Bye,
Skybuck.
David E. Ross
Nov 11, 2015, 3:48:26 PM11/11/15
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date-time stamp of when the copy was done. On the other hand moving
(cut and paste) causes the result to keep the the date-time stamp of the
original.
--
David E. Ross
Is Kim Davis a hero or a villain? See my
<http://www.rossde.com/KimDavis.html>.
Live
Nov 12, 2015, 3:33:38 PM11/12/15
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"Skybuck Flying" <skybu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1b32$56439c14$d47876e2$88...@news.ziggo.nl...
>
> What's even worse is that ms-dos has no command for as far as I know
> that can change a file's date or time ? Otherwise it could be as simple
> as creating a batchfile to scan the old folder structure and apply it to
> the new one...
>
> Bye,
> What's even worse is that ms-dos has no command for as far as I know
> that can change a file's date or time ? Otherwise it could be as simple
> as creating a batchfile to scan the old folder structure and apply it to
> the new one...
>
> Skybuck.
You can try FileMenuTools
http://www.lopesoft.com/en/filemenutools
Skybuck Flying
Nov 12, 2015, 8:05:20 PM11/12/15
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Not going to try any tool that has not been tested 100.000.000 times for my
data.
Bye,
Skybuck.
data.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Skybuck Flying
Nov 12, 2015, 9:04:25 PM11/12/15
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Amazingly enough cut & paste works to keep the date and time.
Even when cut&pasting from disk to disk.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Even when cut&pasting from disk to disk.
Bye,
Skybuck.
Kerr Mudd-John
Nov 13, 2015, 7:45:11 AM11/13/15
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:33:32 -0000, Live <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Skybuck Flying" <skybu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c1b32$56439c14$d47876e2$88...@news.ziggo.nl...
>>
>> What's even worse is that ms-dos has no command for as far as I know
>> that can change a file's date or time ? Otherwise it could be as simple
>> as creating a batchfile to scan the old folder structure and apply it
>> to the new one...
>>
Of course it does; something like copy filename.ext+,,
>
> "Skybuck Flying" <skybu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c1b32$56439c14$d47876e2$88...@news.ziggo.nl...
>>
>> What's even worse is that ms-dos has no command for as far as I know
>> that can change a file's date or time ? Otherwise it could be as simple
>> as creating a batchfile to scan the old folder structure and apply it
>> to the new one...
>>
Use at your own risk.
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug
Zaidy036
Jan 10, 2022, 5:58:01 PM1/10/22
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skybuck2000
Jan 11, 2022, 8:39:47 PM1/11/22
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From documentation:
@FDATE Last modified date stamp on the file.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/forfiles
What my posting was about is creation date, not modified date.
Bye for now,
Skybuck.
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