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Michael Wieser

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Aug 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/16/99
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Hi!

Does there exist a GNU-C for this Siemens/Infineon Controllers?

Thanks
Michael Wieser

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August Hörandl

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Aug 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/16/99
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Michael Wieser wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> Does there exist a GNU-C for this Siemens/Infineon Controllers?
>

HighTec (http://www.hightec-rt.com/) has a gcc for c16x

it is a demo version (binary only) - which is very strange for a compiler that
comes with GPL

Gustl
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John Devereux

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Aug 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/16/99
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On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:12:50 GMT, m....@REMOVETHISmagnet.at (Michael
Wieser) wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Does there exist a GNU-C for this Siemens/Infineon Controllers?
>

>Thanks
>Michael Wieser
>
>m.k.wr.e...@magnet.at

Sort of.

There is one derived from GNU at
http://www.hightec-rt.com/
(Hightec EDV GmbH).

available for Windows and Linux.

The free version is limited to 64k, and appears to be C only (not
C++). This is enough for many programs, especially if you only use the
internal memory versions of the chips. I believe the full version is
fairly expensive though.

They only provide the pre-compiled binaries as far as I know.
However, its available, "free" and seems to work fine.

John Devereux

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Richard F. Man

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Aug 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/16/99
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Hmmm... although the GNU license does not preclude charging money, I
believe they have to provide the source code when people ask for it!

John Devereux wrote:

> ...There is one derived from GNU at


> http://www.hightec-rt.com/
> (Hightec EDV GmbH).
>
> available for Windows and Linux.
>
> The free version is limited to 64k, and appears to be C only (not
> C++). This is enough for many programs, especially if you only use the
> internal memory versions of the chips. I believe the full version is
> fairly expensive though.
>
> They only provide the pre-compiled binaries as far as I know.
> However, its available, "free" and seems to work fine.
>
> John Devereux
>
> jo...@devereux.demon.co.uk

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John Devereux

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:55:17 -0700, "Richard F. Man"
<ric...@imagecraft.com> wrote:

>Hmmm... although the GNU license does not preclude charging money, I
>believe they have to provide the source code when people ask for it!

Indeed. I don't know if anyone has asked for it! I wonder what the
response would be? The last time I suggested this link similar
comments were made. As a grateful user (rather than a compiler
writer!), I am reluctant to stir up a fuss about this since I have
after all got the free use of a compiler that I would not otherwise
have. It seems wrong for _me_ to discourage them from making the free
version available; I agree that they should provide the source code
for stuff they charge for (when it is directly derived from the GNU
source).

Richard, I don't know if you have considered producing a compiler for
this chip (or maybe you already do). Its certainly got an
"interesting" architecture! I think there is scope for a compiler that
takes more advantage of the architectural features than the GNU one
does, at less than the $2000 price range that seems typical.


>
>John Devereux wrote:
>
>> ...There is one derived from GNU at
>> http://www.hightec-rt.com/
>> (Hightec EDV GmbH).
>>
>> available for Windows and Linux.

and Windows 3.1 and DOS too I should have added

>>
>> The free version is limited to 64k, and appears to be C only (not
>> C++). This is enough for many programs, especially if you only use the
>> internal memory versions of the chips. I believe the full version is
>> fairly expensive though.
>>
>> They only provide the pre-compiled binaries as far as I know.
>> However, its available, "free" and seems to work fine.
>>
>> John Devereux
>>
>> jo...@devereux.demon.co.uk

John Devereux

jo...@devereux.demon.co.uk

Elmar Hoppach

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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Michael Wieser schrieb:


>
> Hi!
>
> Does there exist a GNU-C for this Siemens/Infineon Controllers?
>
> Thanks
> Michael Wieser
>
> m.k.wr.e...@magnet.at

I had been working for 3 years since 1992 with GNU-C on '166. Site:
http://www.hightec-rt.de/


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Richard F. Man

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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Not yet in plan, already there does seem to be quite a few believers for this
chip. I need to be convinced that it will be a high volume seller before
commiting though.

John Devereux wrote:

> ....


>
> Richard, I don't know if you have considered producing a compiler for
> this chip (or maybe you already do). Its certainly got an
> "interesting" architecture! I think there is scope for a compiler that
> takes more advantage of the architectural features than the GNU one

> does, at less than the $2000 price range that seems typical....

Michael Wieser

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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Hi!

Thanks to all for the answers. Now I have to learn C.
And I have to learn the C167.....


Michael Wieser

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Robert

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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Michael,

in order to learn the C167CR you might want to get the "Starter Kit"
from Phytec and use the "Hands On Training" of the Infineon website:
http://www.infineon.com/us/micro/hot.html
Please order the DAvE tool from Infineon as well, it is an absolute
great and FREE!! tool to write initialization code for the C167CR based
on visual help (you pick features from a blockdiagram, the tool writes
the code!)
http://www.infineon.com/DAvE.html

The Starter Kit together with DAvE and the Hands-On Training makes
learning the C167CR a piece of cake.


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Michael Wieser

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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Hi!

Yes, I do DAvE :-)
Again thanks to all!

>Michael,
>
>in order to learn the C167CR you might want to get the "Starter Kit"
>from Phytec and use the "Hands On Training" of the Infineon website:
> http://www.infineon.com/us/micro/hot.html
>Please order the DAvE tool from Infineon as well, it is an absolute
>great and FREE!! tool to write initialization code for the C167CR based
>on visual help (you pick features from a blockdiagram, the tool writes
>the code!)
> http://www.infineon.com/DAvE.html
>
>The Starter Kit together with DAvE and the Hands-On Training makes
>learning the C167CR a piece of cake.
>
>
>Michael Wieser wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Thanks to all for the answers. Now I have to learn C.
>> And I have to learn the C167.....
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Wieser
>>
>> m.k.wr.e...@magnet.at

Michael Wieser

m.k.wr.e...@magnet.at

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