Most powerful microcontroller in a DIP package?

dans...@xmission.com

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Oct 30, 2008, 3:38:48 PM10/30/08

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What are the biggest flash microcontrollers available in a DIP format
in terms of mips, flash size, and ram size? This is for a small
quantity of devices built on prototype boards.

Jim Granville

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Oct 30, 2008, 4:45:18 PM10/30/08

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dans...@xmission.com wrote:

Can you accept PLCC ?
(or even a daughter card, or Module ? )

-jg

dans...@xmission.com

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Oct 30, 2008, 5:10:20 PM10/30/08

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On Oct 30, 2:45 pm, Jim Granville <no.s...@designtools.maps.co.nz>
wrote:

For reasons hard to explain, no. Just dips.

The Microchip dsPIC30F4013 in a dip40 has 48kb flash (16k x 24) 2048
bytes ram and runs at 30mips. Anything better out there in a 40 pin
dip?

Stonethrower

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Oct 30, 2008, 5:23:24 PM10/30/08

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Does it have to be a ***single*** microcontroller or perhaps modules
packaged in Dip40 like these ARM based:
- http://www.burntec.com/tinyarm40.asp
- http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=1747

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JeffM

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Oct 30, 2008, 6:30:07 PM10/30/08

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Related thread from last Winter:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.arch.embedded/browse_frm/thread/c6c2d888b4f3a47a?q=128K.flash+48.KB.RAM+DIP+peripherals+expensive+zzz+plug.able+fastest+most.RAM+single.chip
.
.
If you would use a regular nick for a username
(instead of an email address),
your identity wouldn't look cryptic in the archive (whence you post).
http://groups.google.com/groups/mysubs

dalai lamah

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Oct 30, 2008, 6:43:48 PM10/30/08

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Un bel giorno dans...@xmission.com digitò:

> The Microchip dsPIC30F4013 in a dip40 has 48kb flash (16k x 24) 2048
> bytes ram and runs at 30mips. Anything better out there in a 40 pin
> dip?

http://www.parallax.com/tabid/407/Default.aspx

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Mike Silva

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Oct 30, 2008, 7:26:58 PM10/30/08

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On Oct 30, 5:23 pm, "Stonethrower" <digi_64-

Yep, the tinyarms are pretty substantial.

http://www.tinyarm.com/id1.html

Ulf Samuelsson

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Oct 30, 2008, 7:30:02 PM10/30/08

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> What are the biggest flash microcontrollers available in a DIP format
> in terms of mips, flash size, and ram size? This is for a small
> quantity of devices built on prototype boards.

While it does not have the highest MIPS number
the ATmega1284P has nice peripherals
and fairly large flash .128惰B .

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Leon

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Oct 31, 2008, 7:08:53 AM10/31/08

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The Parallax Propeller gives 160 MIPS from eight cores, in a 40-pin
DIL.

You can get NXP ARM chips mounted on a DIL PCB - 70 MIPS and plenty of
flash memory.

Leon

Mike Silva

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Oct 31, 2008, 8:28:46 AM10/31/08

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You should also look at http://www.newmicros.com/. They've got ARMs
on 0.1" plugins that would be just as suitable for breadboards as a
DIP chip. Look at their tiniARMs (not the same as the DIP tinyARMs
from the other manufacturer).

Mike

DJ Delorie

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Oct 31, 2008, 10:50:07 AM10/31/08

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Mike Silva <snarf...@yahoo.com> writes:
> They've got ARMs on 0.1" plugins that would be just as suitable for
> breadboards as a DIP chip.

Well, if breadboard adapters are allowed, I've made my own:

http://www.delorie.com/electronics/m16c-26-adapter/
http://www.delorie.com/electronics/r8c-27-adapter/

(although those are not nearly as powerful as an ARM chip)

dans...@xmission.com

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Nov 3, 2008, 6:39:34 PM11/3/08

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On Oct 30, 4:30 pm, "Ulf Samuelsson" <u...@a-t-m-e-l.com> wrote:
> > What are the biggest flash microcontrollers available in a DIP format
> > in terms of mips, flash size, and ram size? This is for a small
> > quantity of devices built on prototype boards.
>
> While it does not have the highest MIPS number
> the ATmega1284P has nice peripherals

> and fairly large flash .128´kB .

>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Ulf Samuelsson
> This is intended to be my personal opinion which may,
> or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB

Those do look interesting. Where can I go online to buy a few?

Ulf Samuelsson

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Nov 4, 2008, 12:58:36 AM11/4/08

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>> > What are the biggest flash microcontrollers available in a DIP format
>> > in terms of mips, flash size, and ram size? This is for a small
>> > quantity of devices built on prototype boards.
>>
>> While it does not have the highest MIPS number
>> the ATmega1284P has nice peripherals
>> and fairly large flash .128�kB .

>Those do look interesting. Where can I go online to buy a few?

Why not call your friendly local distributor and order some free samples.

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may or may not be shared by my employer Atmel Nordic AB

RevAaron

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Aug 4, 2009, 11:55:52 AM8/4/09

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Apologies for the necromancy, but what the hell!

>What are the biggest flash microcontrollers available in a DIP format
>in terms of mips, flash size, and ram size? This is for a small
>quantity of devices built on prototype boards.

Have you looked at Parallax's Propeller? No clue if it's the "biggest"
all-around, but it's pretty impressive compared to most of the other
microcontrollers available in a DIP package.

http://www.parallax.com/tabid/407/Default.aspx

It's a fun little MCU, to be sure- 8 x 32-bit cores! Parallax claims 160
MIPS, 20 MIPS per core.

RAM: Total of 48 KB (32 KB shared/global; 2 KB per core [ x 8 = 16 KB ])
ROM: 32 KB built in; bootloader reads first from an SPI serial EEPROM if
it's available- plenty of cheap 1 Mbit SPI EEPROMs to go around if you want
more.
Freq: Tops out at 80 MHz; overclockable to 100 MHz
IO pins: 32
Counters/Timers: 17 - 1 shared, 2 per core

Regards,
Aaorn