Hitachi H8/300 E6000 Emulators
Phil Beeson
Are they any good ?
What are their limitations ?
Can you recommend a better alternative ?
Any views welcome.
lourens.leen-no
16-bit devices.
Some devices are still supported by the 'old' PCE emulators.
The new E6000 series of emulators offer many new features and are more
stable, but alas are also more expensive.
Check out the features and see if there is one to support your Hitachi
device on : www.hmse.com
Cheers,
Lou
Ken Lee
using the EVB remote debugger tools. The E6000 is expensive and may be
a bit of an overkill. Have you considered using the Hitachi PCE
emulator -- they are a much cheaper alternative and work fairly well.
Ken.
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"Phil Beeson" <phil....@NO-SPAM-poole.siemens.co.uk> wrote:
> Does anybody have any views on Hitachi E6000 emulators.
>
> Are they any good ?
> What are their limitations ?
>
> Can you recommend a better alternative ?
>
> Any views welcome.
>
>
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Before you buy.
Phil Beeson
(H8/300H series). For which there isn't PCE emulator.
We've lost hours of work with poor emulators in the past, either through
instability or lack of decent trace / event features.
The cost isn't such a big issue here, the E6000 is less than 7K GBP in its
development kit which includes the Hitachi development tools (IAR embedded
work bench.)
I'm trying to get a feel for how the emulators perform (compared with other
emulators you have used).
Timescale reduction is the key here. If something like a Lauterbach Trace
32 (>16K GBP) would enable me to reduce the development time of a 1 man year
project by 6 weeks compared with the E6000, then I could probably justify
it.
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> OK I should have been more specific. The
processor Im using is the H8/3062
> (H8/300H series). For which there isn't PCE
emulator.
>
> We've lost hours of work with poor emulators in
the past, either through
> instability or lack of decent trace / event
features.
>
> The cost isn't such a big issue here, the E6000
is less than 7K GBP in its
> development kit which includes the Hitachi
development tools (IAR embedded
> work bench.)
>
> I'm trying to get a feel for how the emulators
perform (compared with other
> emulators you have used).
>
> Timescale reduction is the key here. If
something like a Lauterbach Trace
> 32 (>16K GBP) would enable me to reduce the
development time of a 1 man year
> project by 6 weeks compared with the E6000,
then I could probably justify
> it.
>
poole.siemens.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:8io40f$4jg$1...@taliesin2.netcom.net.uk...
> > Does anybody have any views on Hitachi E6000
emulators.
> >
> > Are they any good ?
> > What are their limitations ?
> >
> > Can you recommend a better alternative ?
> >
> > Any views welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
I've used the E6000 on a H8S project and was
generally pleased with the performance. The
only real time waster was getting the emulator
setup. After a day of fiddling around with the
EISA card installation, a call to tech support
found that their system did not work with
Gateway computers. Pretty unbelievable.
Also note that there is no Windows 2000 support
as we learned when trying to transfer our
emulation system onto a new computer using one of
their PCI interfaces. They say that the
drivers should be ready by the fall. The best
way to go is one of their ethernet box interfaces
if you can find one, but they are pricey (~$3K).
Also if you're using their C compiler make sure
you turn all optimizations off.
Hope that helps.
Arthur Aaron
arta...@my-deja.com
performance. The only real time waster was getting the emulator
setup. After a day of fiddling around with the EISA card installation,
a call to tech support found that their system did not work with
Gateway computers. Pretty unbelievable.
Also note that there is no Windows 2000 support as we learned when
trying to transfer our emulation system onto a new computer using one
of their PCI interfaces. They say that the drivers should be ready by
the fall. The best way to go is one of their ethernet box interfaces
if you can find one, but they are pricey (~$3K).
Also if you're using their C compiler make sure you turn all
optimizations off.
Hope that helps.
Arthur Aaron
In article <8ipnka$cs2$1...@taliesin2.netcom.net.uk>,
"Phil Beeson" <phil....@NO-SPAMpoole.siemens.co.uk> wrote:
> OK I should have been more specific. The processor Im using is the
H8/3062
> (H8/300H series). For which there isn't PCE emulator.
>
> We've lost hours of work with poor emulators in the past, either
through
> instability or lack of decent trace / event features.
>
> The cost isn't such a big issue here, the E6000 is less than 7K GBP
in its
> development kit which includes the Hitachi development tools (IAR
embedded
> work bench.)
>
> I'm trying to get a feel for how the emulators perform (compared with
other
> emulators you have used).
>
> Timescale reduction is the key here. If something like a Lauterbach
Trace
> 32 (>16K GBP) would enable me to reduce the development time of a 1
man year
> project by 6 weeks compared with the E6000, then I could probably
justify
> it.
>
> "Phil Beeson" <phil....@NO-SPAM-poole.siemens.co.uk> wrote in
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> news:8io40f$4jg$1...@taliesin2.netcom.net.uk...
> > Does anybody have any views on Hitachi E6000 emulators.
> >
> > Are they any good ?
> > What are their limitations ?
> >
> > Can you recommend a better alternative ?
> >
> > Any views welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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E6000 can emulate only to 8MHz. So although the
processor H8S2357 can go up to 13MHz at 3.3V the
emulator can't!
At 5V this is higher depending on the device. We
overlooked this so we are now running our main
board with H8S2357 at 8MHz.
(Mr) Nikola Krstajic
Design Engineer
Nexan Telemed Ltd
The Quorum
Barnwell Road
Cambridge
CB5 8RE, UK
tel ++ 44 (0) 1223 713 500
tel ++ 44 (0) 1223 713 501
email: nikola....@nexan.com
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