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Paul Bealing

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Feb 15, 2001, 5:35:05 AM2/15/01
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CPU module + Development board, reduced price for July.

68HC11F1 module with 32K RAM, 128K Flash memory.

Kit contains: CPU_1A1, development board (both fully assembled and tested)
and CD containing data, tools and example code.

CPU_1A1 flash memory preloaded with Buffalo for a quick start.

Kit for only $99 NZD (about $43 USD) + shipping (e.g.. $10 NZD to the USA).

details: www.pmb.co.nz

PMB Electronics

Andy Wood

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Feb 15, 2001, 3:28:26 PM2/15/01
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"Paul Bealing" <pa...@pmb.co.nz> wrote:

>CPU module + Development board, reduced price for July.

July??

Andy Wood
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Paul Bealing

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Feb 15, 2001, 3:51:11 PM2/15/01
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Sorry about that.
Just shows, you shouldn't work too late.

I should say, for the next few weeks.

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Paul Bealing
PMB Electronics
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Feb 15, 2001, 9:39:56 PM2/15/01
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wooda...@ozemail.com.au (Andy Wood) wrote:
> "Paul Bealing" <pa...@pmb.co.nz> wrote:
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> > CPU module + Development board, reduced price for July.
>
> July??

Well, that's in the southern hemisphere... Everybody knows,
when it's February in North America, it's July in NZ & AU. ;-)


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Richard Erlacher

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Feb 16, 2001, 8:50:15 PM2/16/01
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This might not be so slick aninvestment since Motorola is strongly
recommending against the use of the 'HC11 series for new designs.
It's been around since '85 and is getting old.

Dick


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Paul Bealing

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You might like to have a look at http://www.pmb.co.nz/cpu_1a1_faq_1.htm

If anyone has any solid info from Motorola, I would be interested.

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Paul Bealing
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ch...@one.net.au

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Feb 17, 2001, 12:40:39 AM2/17/01
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:06:30 +1300, "Paul Bealing" <pa...@pmb.co.nz>
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Motorola have announced the dropping of the E2 version of the 68HC11
,with last orders being acceped around the middle of this year , but I
don't see the other versions being dropped within the next 5 years or
so

Paul Bealing

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Feb 17, 2001, 2:36:24 AM2/17/01
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I would agree.

The E2 was a handy configuration, useful internal memory, able to be
programmed easily at home using free tools.

The same features that made it useful for hobby projects would have made it
less desirable or too expensive for high volume products.

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Richard Erlacher

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Feb 17, 2001, 4:16:57 AM2/17/01
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I spoke with some of their people at the Austin plant where they make
these and was told in no uncertain terms that the HC11 was passe' and
that I should look at the HC12 or HC16. Likewise, I was told the
HC05's were pretty much history and that I should replace them with
HC08's in new applications.

I'm not terribly worried anyway, since it's difficult to buy MOT parts
reliably at volumes under 1K units per week. My usage over the 15
years they (HC11s) have been available has yet to reach a couple of
dozen. (I do prototypes/concept proofs, etc, mostly one-of's)

Dick

Dave Emrich

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Feb 17, 2001, 7:33:38 AM2/17/01
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"Richard Erlacher" <ed...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This might not be so slick aninvestment since Motorola is strongly
> recommending against the use of the 'HC11 series for new designs.
> It's been around since '85 and is getting old.

That's what they said about the 8051 years ago... And a whole host of other
things... The reverse also happens (that is, things predicted to live for
ever have died before coming of "preproduction").

David.

Mark Harriss

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Feb 17, 2001, 8:21:58 AM2/17/01
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If thats the case they may second source the design to the other
manufacturers and make it cheaper to buy, possibly with a move
to a faster process. Anyone use a 40 Mhz HC11?

Paul Bealing

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Feb 17, 2001, 4:23:40 PM2/17/01
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I have even seen the HC11 simulated in a CPLD. I don't know how complete it
was or how fast it would be, although it could probably be made faster than
a real HC11.

An HC11 with a couple of SCI ports, more digital I/O and better chip select
logic in a single chip would be quite neat. Once you had it going (assuming
you didn't have to pay a license on the CPLD program) the CPLD chips may
even be cheaper than Motorola HC11s.

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Paul Bealing
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Paul Bealing

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Feb 17, 2001, 4:33:21 PM2/17/01
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It makes sense that Motorola want everyone to use HC08 and HC12. That must
be where the profit is.

We've found the HC11 easier to get, even in low quantities, than PICs. The
only requirement has been a minimum of one tube.


Which micros do you prefer?
It's always interesting to know what others use and why.

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Paul Bealing
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MTG

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Feb 17, 2001, 11:26:23 PM2/17/01
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I'd like to see a version with 32k or 64k of flash and couple of
k of SRAM. They could lose the external bus even at that point
and go all single-chip ... but leave a couple of ports on. Maybe
even lose the A/D and/or EEPROM. Those are easil replaced
by I2C or SPI peripherals. Keep some kind of bootloader so
the flash can be in-system-programmable using the SCI.

GB

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Mark Harriss

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Feb 18, 2001, 4:58:07 AM2/18/01
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Now thats a worthwhile idea, an open source hc11 copy on CPLD

Mr. C

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Feb 21, 2001, 8:51:19 AM2/21/01
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We use the HC11(KA2) and the PIC line. We have some older products
based on the HC705 but if we have to re-design them, we will most
likely go to a PIC instead of the '08.

I too am wary of the HC11 going away, but there are not nearly the
equivalent variants of the HC12 yet. I cannot believe Moto will drop
the entire HC11 line until they have alternatives in the HC12 line.

Richard Erlacher

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Mar 3, 2001, 9:46:21 AM3/3/01
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I don't think it's strictly a profit-motivated decision. The HC12 and
HC08 parts that are equivalent or suggested replacements for certain
HC11 and HC08 parts are less costly in spite of the fact they have
lots of features not included in the parts they're replacing.

Mot is in the business of making money, though, so it is their job to
find a way of doing that, even if it does make us unhappy.

Dick


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