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John

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Jun 30, 2010, 2:55:34 PM6/30/10
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Hi,

Sorry if this isn't the right group, but I wonder if http://commonjs.org/
is active. curl -v http://commonjs.org/ says the connection is
accepted, but there's no repsonse.

Please let me know if it's working for you and/or there's a better
place to report this issue.

Thanks!
John

Daniel Friesen

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Voltaire is messed up at the moment. I'm working now so I've already
poked Greg to restart it since what I'm working on is on that same server.
Eventually I'll move commonjs to one of my own servers.

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

John

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Jul 2, 2010, 11:43:00 AM7/2/10
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For some time yesterday, I was getting PHP error reports from the
server. Now it's back to accepting the connection without sending any
response.

On Jun 30, 12:10 pm, Daniel Friesen <nadir.seen.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Voltaire is messed up at the moment. I'm working now so I've already
> poked Greg to restart it since what I'm working on is on that same server.
> Eventually I'll move commonjs to one of my own servers.
>
> ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]
>
> John wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > Sorry if this isn't the right group, but I wonder ifhttp://commonjs.org/
> > is active.  curl -vhttp://commonjs.org/says the connection is

Wes Garland

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Daniel,

Do you need a mirror and/or DR site?

Wes

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George Moschovitis

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:43:02 AM7/7/10
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Is the commonjs.org site still down?

-g.

On Jul 2, 9:19 pm, Wes Garland <w...@page.ca> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Do you need a mirror and/or DR site?
>
> Wes
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:43 AM, John <jwb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > For some time yesterday, I was getting PHP error reports from the
> > server. Now it's back to accepting the connection without sending any
> > response.
>
> > On Jun 30, 12:10 pm, Daniel Friesen <nadir.seen.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Voltaire is messed up at the moment. I'm working now so I've already
> > > poked Greg to restart it since what I'm working on is on that same
> > server.
> > > Eventually I'll move commonjs to one of my own servers.
>
> > > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]
>
> > > John wrote:
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > Sorry if this isn't the right group, but I wonder ifhttp://
> > commonjs.org/
> > > > is active.  curl -vhttp://commonjs.org/saysthe connection is
> > > > accepted, but there's no repsonse.
>
> > > > Please let me know if it's working for you and/or there's a better
> > > > place to report this issue.
>
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > John
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Wes Garland

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Jul 7, 2010, 11:29:34 AM7/7/10
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Daniel,

Is there any way you can pop the CommonJS.org site back up long enough that I can mirror it?

There's information in the wiki I need.

Wes

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Daniel Friesen

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The server is still running... there's just something inexplicably wrong
with anything using php on that server for some reason now...
The dumps are still available http://wiki.commonjs.org/dumps/

I need to find some method of keeping my own personal servers backed up.
The server that commonjs is currently on is kept backed up automatically
by a computer running in the office.
But I don't run any machine 24/7 at home, and I don't like using the
cloud for backups in this case, I want a physical hard drive with
backups on it. When I can figure out how to solve that issue I can move
the commonjs site to one of my own servers.

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

Wes Garland wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Is there any way you can pop the CommonJS.org site back up long enough
> that I can mirror it?
>
> There's information in the wiki I need.
>
> Wes
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:43 AM, George Moschovitis

> <george.mo...@gmail.com <mailto:george.mo...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Is the commonjs.org <http://commonjs.org> site still down?


>
> -g.
>
> On Jul 2, 9:19 pm, Wes Garland <w...@page.ca

> <mailto:w...@page.ca>> wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > Do you need a mirror and/or DR site?
> >
> > Wes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:43 AM, John <jwb...@gmail.com
> <mailto:jwb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > For some time yesterday, I was getting PHP error reports from the
> > > server. Now it's back to accepting the connection without
> sending any
> > > response.
> >
> > > On Jun 30, 12:10 pm, Daniel Friesen <nadir.seen.f...@gmail.com

> <mailto:nadir.seen.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > Voltaire is messed up at the moment. I'm working now so I've
> already
> > > > poked Greg to restart it since what I'm working on is on
> that same
> > > server.
> > > > Eventually I'll move commonjs to one of my own servers.
> >
> > > > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire)
> [http://daniel.friesen.name]
> >
> > > > John wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> >
> > > > > Sorry if this isn't the right group, but I wonder ifhttp://

> > > commonjs.org/ <http://commonjs.org/>


> > > > > is active. curl -vhttp://commonjs.org/saysthe
> <http://commonjs.org/saysthe> connection is
> > > > > accepted, but there's no repsonse.
> >
> > > > > Please let me know if it's working for you and/or there's
> a better
> > > > > place to report this issue.
> >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > John
> >
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Mikeal Rogers

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Can we get a new home for the hosting on this.

I'm sure joyent or heroku or someone will donate some hosting and resolve this kind of stuff for us.

-Mikeal

John

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Jul 7, 2010, 3:04:17 PM7/7/10
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So the wiki is still dead, right? It looks like the main page and the
http://commonjs.org/impl/ page are available, but http://wiki.commonjs.org
and http://commonjs.org/specs/ are giving errors.

On Jul 7, 11:47 am, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can we get a new home for the hosting on this.
>
> I'm sure joyent or heroku or someone will donate some hosting and resolve
> this kind of stuff for us.
>
> -Mikeal
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Daniel Friesen
> <nadir.seen.f...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > The server is still running... there's just something inexplicably wrong
> > with anything using php on that server for some reason now...
> > The dumps are still availablehttp://wiki.commonjs.org/dumps/
>
> > I need to find some method of keeping my own personal servers backed up.
> > The server that commonjs is currently on is kept backed up automatically by
> > a computer running in the office.
> > But I don't run any machine 24/7 at home, and I don't like using the cloud
> > for backups in this case, I want a physical hard drive with backups on it.
> > When I can figure out how to solve that issue I can move the commonjs site
> > to one of my own servers.
>
> > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]
>
> > Wes Garland wrote:
>
> >> Daniel,
>
> >> Is there any way you can pop the CommonJS.org site back up long enough
> >> that I can mirror it?
>
> >> There's information in the wiki I need.
>
> >> Wes
>
> >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:43 AM, George Moschovitis <
> >> george.moschovi...@gmail.com <mailto:george.moschovi...@gmail.com>>
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Kris Kowal

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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can we get a new home for the hosting on this.
> I'm sure joyent or heroku or someone will donate some hosting and resolve
> this kind of stuff for us.
> -Mikeal

And more importantly take ownership and responsibility. I believe
Chris Zumbrunn owns the domain.

Kris Kowal

Mikeal Rogers

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A few questions.

Does anyone know what the current traffic looks like to commonjs.org?

What are the services we're currently using. MySQL/MediaWiki/ModPHP???

I *really* don't want to change any of the tooling because that discussion will be endless. I just want what we had to be back up.

-Mikeal

Wes Garland

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I've thrown up a mirror for anybody needing access to the specs while we sort out the hosting situation.

Mirror is at http://www.page.ca/~wes/cjs/commonjs.org/

You're probably most interested in http://www.page.ca/~wes/cjs/wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/

Obviously, this is a static (read only) mirror.

Let me know if I've missed anything really important that I might be able to add.

Wes

getify

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I've heard rumor that there's a need arisen for new hosting for
commonjs.org. Being that I'm interested in the health and well being
of this community, I'd be happy to offer a free VM to host the site
on.... If you're interested, let me know. When does the switch need to
occur?

--Kyle Simpson





On Jul 7, 4:11 pm, Wes Garland <w...@page.ca> wrote:
> I've thrown up a mirror for anybody needing access to the specs while we
> sort out the hosting situation.
>
> Mirror is athttp://www.page.ca/~wes/cjs/commonjs.org/<http://www.page.ca/%7Ewes/cjs/commonjs.org/>
>
> You're probably most interested inhttp://www.page.ca/~wes/cjs/wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/<http://www.page.ca/%7Ewes/cjs/wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/>
>
> Obviously, this is a static (read only) mirror.
>
> Let me know if I've missed anything really important that I might be able to
> add.
>
> Wes
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rog...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > A few questions.
>
> > Does anyone know what the current traffic looks like to commonjs.org?
>
> > What are the services we're currently using. MySQL/MediaWiki/ModPHP???
>
> > I *really* don't want to change any of the tooling because that discussion
> > will be endless. I just want what we had to be back up.
>
> > -Mikeal
>
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Kris Kowal <kris.ko...@cixar.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rog...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Can we get a new home for the hosting on this.
> >> > I'm sure joyent or heroku or someone will donate some hosting and
> >> resolve
> >> > this kind of stuff for us.
> >> > -Mikeal
>
> >> And more importantly take ownership and responsibility.  I believe
> >> Chris Zumbrunn owns the domain.
>
> >> Kris Kowal
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Daniel Friesen

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Since I can't find out why MediaWiki is completely broken on voltaire,
I've moved the sites to one of my own servers now (however they'll be
unavailable till the dns gets changed).
Unfortunately this new server will NOT have an automatic physical backup
until I am able to set one up at home.

Random people wanting to run cron jobs to keep their own copy of the
full.xml wiki dump would be welcome.
To make that even easier I've setup a rsync server on the new server you
can use to keep a copy of your own up to date.
Note that the wiki's dump cron job runs daily, so please don't bother
running an hourly cron job.
When the dns is fixed you can rsync the full.xml dump using:
$ rsync --progress commonjs.org::commonjs/dumps/full.xml .

I suppose it's up to Chris if he wants to hand over the domain, but
trying to transfer the site to a new server is troublesome without
control over the dns.

Wes Garland

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Kyle;

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM, getify <get...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've heard rumor that there's a need arisen for new hosting for
commonjs.org. Being that I'm interested in the health and well being
of this community, I'd be happy to offer a free VM to host the site
on.... If you're interested, let me know. When does the switch need to
occur?

The problem isn't really hosting per se - that's relatively easy to come by.  The problem is the man-power required to set up, create content, manage the site on a long-term basis, and be able to react to effect repairs when something goes wrong -- as was the case this week.

Dan Friesen's been doing a pretty good job of handling all those tasks solo (including providing the hosting), but he had a bad week and wasn't able to react to an outage as quickly as we would have liked.

Part of Dan's slow reaction time is due to his desire to provide only the most robust solution for the community, including on-site back-up options.  Dan's a young guy, and with that sometimes comes myopia: in this case, he inadvertenly made the perfect the enemy of the good. In a hilarious twist of happenstance, the hostname of the machine giving him grief is Voltaire.

I personally don't see a need to move the domain at this moment, but I do see a need to maintain at least one off-site mirror.  I intend to run one which is a simple static snapshot of the production site.

If anybody out there knows how to set up MediaWiki and wants to help me set up a disaster-recovery site, that would be cool, too.

Wes

George Moschovitis

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> You're probably most interested inhttp://www.page.ca/~wes/cjs/wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/<http://www.page.ca/%7Ewes/cjs/wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/>

The JSGI page is incomplete, for example the JSGI 0.3 page is
missing...

-g.

PS: Sadly the issues with the site reflect the status of CommonJS. We
must somehow 'reboot' this *very* important project...

George Moschovitis

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> I've thrown up a mirror for anybody needing access to the specs while we
> sort out the hosting situation.

btw, thanks for the mirror, your effort (and Daniel's of course) is
really appreciated.

-g.

Mikeal Rogers

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This is a great characterization of the situation.

I kind of want some named company (Joyent, Heroku, Media Temple) to host this for us in exchange for a nice link on the front page. Then when it goes down their brand is attached to it a little and it lights a fire to get it fixed. This way the only thing we need from our community is someone designated to be the contact person with the company.

-Mikeal

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Micheil Smith

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Would it be possible to move to say pbwiki (I know jquery UI do all their
planning on a pbwiki, which worked quite well.)

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Mikeal Rogers

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Jul 8, 2010, 2:58:42 PM7/8/10
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no, please stop.

let's try not to mix in a tool switch here.

let's just deal with the hosting issues and not attempt to debate the tools in question until after we get hosting worked out.

after commonjs.org is back up i would welcome a long discussion about tools that might be better than MediaWiki but not until after we deal with the problems at hand.

Chris Zumbrunn

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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 20:58, Mikeal Rogers <mikeal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> after commonjs.org is back up i would welcome a long discussion about tools
> that might be better than MediaWiki but not until after we deal with the
> problems at hand.

It's not back up for you? Daniel put the commonjs site on a new
rackspace cloud server about 17 hours ago.

Chris

George Moschovitis

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> no, please stop.
> let's try not to mix in a tool switch here.

+1

-g.

Mikeal Rogers

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‘Was just suggesting, that way no one would need to worry about the hosting.

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