[CoLoCo] Notebook drive

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Kenneth D Weinert

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Oct 4, 2008, 2:32:14 PM10/4/08
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I'm looking for a second drive for the new laptop and I'm wondering if
anyone has any opinions on this drive:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SkuSearch_v2.asp?SCriteria=AA73566

or this particular company (since they have the best price) or Samsung
drives in general.

I've looked for reviews, but this appears to be a new drive (or I've
reached a new low in my searching abilities) as I've not seen any
reviews yet and not that many places selling it.

Thanks for any info or pointers.

Ken

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David L. Willson

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Oct 4, 2008, 4:21:20 PM10/4/08
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Here's my opinion, and I apologize in advance that I don't have a specific opinion on
Samsung. Reliability isn't a significant factor in one drive. You can measure
reliability across a field of hundreds and judge it's cost, but not across a field of
one. In a field of just one, the drive might fail, and that's about all you can say
with any trustworthiness. The difference between a 5% and a 10% chance of failure in
the first three years just doesn't mean anything if it's your only hard drive.

My advice is always to buy the cheapest thing you can get (per gigabyte) and make sure
to have at least one copy of your stuph as far as away from the live copy as
practicable, unless you're a gamer, then consider buying the really fast drive.

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David Overcash

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Oct 4, 2008, 4:59:40 PM10/4/08
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I completely and totally agree with David.  Hard drives are a dime a dozen for a reason (they're all virtually the same parts and you pay for brand if anything).  The best thing you can do is go cheap and figure that it'll last the 3 years that any hard drive does and after that time you should replace it to make sure your data is preserved.

Backups are a must for anything if you really care about your data....  so backup your /Home/ and you should be good to go.  (That's really the greatest thing about Linux, isn't it?  Copy that folder to a new install and it's practically your old machine minus a few apps).

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Kevin Fries

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Oct 6, 2008, 9:27:03 AM10/6/08
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Two other lesser talked about suggestion, that I think is just as important, is:

1) issue a 'dpkg --get-selections' command and redirect that to a file on your backup medium (or /etc). This will store the list of all programs you installed via apt-get

2) back up you /etc folder

(Also, /var/www if you are serving web pages; or /var/mail if you have a local mail server)

HTH
Kevin Fries


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Scott Scriven

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Oct 6, 2008, 4:32:45 PM10/6/08
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* Kevin Fries <kfr...@cctus.com> wrote:
> 1) issue a 'dpkg --get-selections' command and redirect that to
> a file on your backup medium (or /etc). This will store the
> list of all programs you installed via apt-get

This works, but tends to show me all installed packages -- not
just the ones I actually care about. So I prefer to use
debfoster instead. (and back up /var/lib/debfoster/keepers )

> 2) back up you /etc folder

Definitely.

> (Also, /var/www if you are serving web pages; or /var/mail if
> you have a local mail server)

It's often a good idea to back up all of /var. And even then,
don't forget to dump your databases if you have any.

Other dirs to consider backing up (if you do only partial
backups) are /usr/local, /root, /srv, and /opt, depending on your
distro and config.


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Jim Hutchinson

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Oct 6, 2008, 5:22:38 PM10/6/08
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On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Scott Scriven <ubuntu...@toykeeper.net> wrote:

Other dirs to consider backing up (if you do only partial
backups) are /usr/local, /root, /srv, and /opt, depending on your
distro and config.

I would love to see this as a topic in some future meeting as I have never figured out the importance of the various dirs for back ups. My basic philosophy is if I didn't create it then I don't care if it's lost but that is probably not the best philosophy.

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David L. Willson

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Oct 6, 2008, 5:41:22 PM10/6/08
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Scott's adds are good, but why hasn't anyone mentioned /etc, or did I miss it?

I prioritize my backups like this:
/home <- Most important, on any system with one or more users
/etc <- I've done a lot of editing in them thar config files
/var <- Might be server-data in here, and will be log files
/root <- Because I might have saved something here, accidentally
/srv <- This is where server-data ~ought~ to be

And don't forget /boot, if you done any kernel-mods.

I don't actually backup /usr/local or /opt, because I gunk them up so badly over the
life of the installation, I usually don't want them back. Typically, they contain
hand-added software.

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David L. Willson

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Oct 6, 2008, 5:50:09 PM10/6/08
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-- nevermind what I said a minute ago --

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Don Schwartz

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Oct 6, 2008, 5:53:53 PM10/6/08
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uFolks

Have i miss'd something OR..............,

ANY ideas on the BEST DVD view'n software 4 Hardy???

Totem seems a bit lame :(

ALOHA

Don ( aka the lonely Buell )

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Oct 6, 2008, 6:00:41 PM10/6/08
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I use and would recommend VLC .9

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

-Simon

Michael "TheZorch" Haney

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Oct 8, 2008, 6:25:23 AM10/8/08
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I've found Kaffeine to be a really good DVD Player, better than VLC and
I've been an avid supporter of VLC for a long time. My biggest wish is
for a Linux version of KMPlayer though. Best freeware video/DVD player
for Windows in existence.

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Kevin Fries

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:50:48 PM10/8/08
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Every time I get upset with Totem (which I am surprisingly over due for, lol) I pull out Ogle:
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/

Its an older more mature product, and may not have the specific Gnome or KDE integration... but for watching DVDs I have never found anything better.

and for you newbies that are wondering, those screen shots are old school Solaris, baby, oh yea, going retro on the screenshots :-D


Kevin Fries
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Andrew

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Oct 8, 2008, 1:15:11 PM10/8/08
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Totem has usually worked fine for me. Just had to install the libdvdcss2 stuff for encrypted dvd's. I did try mplayer once, and it seemed to work ok too.

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