Re: [AVM_Populi] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio

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Umunsi

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Manirarora uraho!
Ntushobora kuba umucikacumu utabyiyumvamo cyangwa ubitsindiriwe. Hari n'abiyita abacikacumu kandi atari bo. Abatutsi bari mu gihugu ni abacikacumu kuko aho bari hose barahigagwa bukware bazira ko ari abatutsi. Abatutsi bari hanze y'igihugu bagize uruhare, bahanura indege, bubura imirwano, bica abo bahuye nabo mu nzira yo gufata ubutegetsi, ntiwabatsindirira ubucikacumu ngo kubera ko ari abatutsi. Impunzi z'abahutu zarimburiwe muri Kongo zakurikiranywe ibirometero birenga ibihumbi 2000, ni abacikacumu, kimwe n'indi miryango yarimburiwe ababo bazira ko ari abahutu. Ariko ntiwavaho uvuga ngo interahamwe n'abantu bari ku butegetsi bwavuyeho cyangwa bari babushyigikiye, bari kw'isonga y'ubwicanyi hamwe n'interahamwe, ngo ni abacikacumu kuko ari abahutu. Abatutsi bari ku ngoma ubu bafite uruhare mu kwicwa kw'abatutsi bari mu gihugu n'abahutu bo mw'ishyamba rya Kongo, bakwishyira bate mu bacikacumu b'abatutsi gute koko? Bashyira imbere ubututsi bwabo, bakemera jenoside y'abatutsi kugira ngo bayihishe inyuma. Bityo batazaryozwa amahano bakoze. Abahutu bavuye ku butegetsi bwicishije abatutsi bari mu gihugu, kuko ubutegetsi bwa FPR bwarimbuye impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo n'ahandi, bo bavuga jenoside y'abanyarwanda kugira ngo batazaryozwa inzirakarengane barimbuye. Ngo kuko twiciwe twese. Abatutsi bose si abere cyangwa abicanyi. Abahutu bose si abere cyangwa abicanyi. Nakunze kubivuga, nsanga ahubwo abo batutsi ba ruharwa, kimwe n'abahutu ba ruharwa bahuje ubwoko : ubwoko bw'abicanyi. Iri ni ipfundo rikomeye, igihe tutazatinyuka kuripfundura ngo ni uko ari abatutsi bene wacu, cyangwa ko ari abahutu bene wacu, umenye ko tuzagumya kuba imbohe z'abicanyi bo mu bwoko tubarirwamo. Tuzitonde ahubwo ejo tutazakanguka tugasanga batuviriyeho inda imwe bwa kabiri. Aha hantu uhazirikane mwene mama, woge magazi. Uvugire uwo muhuje ibibazo, indoto cyangwa ukwicuza kuko niwe muzafatanya inzira yo yo kwibohora no kubohora abanyarwanda.
Nkiko Nsengimana

Le 15 juin 2016 à 13:08, "JNepo jnma...@yahoo.com [AVM_Populi]" <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

 

Komera Aimable!
Kuba Padiri Nahimana avuga ko atari "umucikacumu  wa genocide yakorewe abatutsi kubera ko atari umututsi" njye mbona nta kibazo mbibonamo. Nanjye 
sinarokotse iriya genocide yitiriwe abatutsi ariko narokotse ubundi bwicanyi ndengakamere butiswe/butaritwa genocide. 
Umuntu rero yakwibaza impamvu Padiri Nahimana yihakana iriya nyito y'ubucikacumu kandi azi neza ko buriya bwicanyi bwinbi bwabaye mu Rwanda, akaba yararikotse bumwe muri bwo.
Ikindi kitumvikana ni uko muri iriya interview uriya muzungu  urimo uganira na Padiri Nahimana yatangiye yita Padiri Nahimana umucikacumu wa genocide yo mu Rwanda!
Yewe no kuri website ya Jefferson Public Radio haracyanditse ngo : "Nahimana is Rwandan, and a survivor of the genocide of the mid-1990s" ( 
http://ijpr.org/post/surviving-violence-rwanda#stream/0
Ibi bintu mbona byagombye kubera isomo buri muntu wese cyane cyane abanyapolitiki ko "buri munyarwanda aho ava akagera, yabishaka atabishaka, ari umucikacumu w'ubwicanyi ndengakamere bwabereye mu Rwanda no muri Congo muri 90s".  Abazungu bo babibonye rugikubita mu gihe abanyarwanda benshi bagihuzagurika.

JNepo

On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Aimable Mugara aima...@hotmail.com [RAYA-Network] <RAYA-N...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Padiri Nahimana starts off the interview on the wrong foot by saying that he cannot be a genocide survivor because he is "not a Tutsi."

Not sure if it is because Padiri is trying to please General Kagame before he takes his political party to Kigali. But otherwise it does not make sense to say that only Tutsis are 1994 genocide survivors when the fact is that thousands of other Rwandans also died in that same genocide, and therefore all non-combatants were at risk and all non-combatants who survived are genocide survivors.

Aimable Mugara


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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:54:58 -0400
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Interesting Interview (in ENGLISH)!!! Nahimana Thomas avuga icyongereza neza, ndabona akirusha Kagame!!!

http://ijpr.org/post/surviving-violence-rwanda#stream/0

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Umunsi

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Yewe ga Mwiseneza!

Umucikacumu wese ni umwere, igihe agiye mu bwicanyi aba abaye umwicanyi nyine. Umwicanyi ntashobora kuba umucikacumu hehe na ryari. Urumva aho ibyo uvuga bitujyana? Gukingira ikibaba abicanyi. Ngiyo jenoside nyarwanda. Ngayo amayirabiri yacu. Uroge magazi na we.
Nkiko Nsengimana

Le 15 juin 2016 à 15:56, "Emmanuel Mwiseneza emwis...@hotmail.com [AVM_Populi]" <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

 

Komera NN! Ibyo uvuga byinshi nibyo ariko hari aho witiranya gucika icumu no kuba umwere!
Interahamwe cg un ancien dignitaire wirutsweho ishyamba ryose akaruhuka yambutse Congo nawe ni umucikacumu. Ariko uwari I Burayi cg ahandi hatari guhigwa ubwoko abarirwamo ntiyakwitwa umucikacumu. 
Ndetse tugiye kure no mu bacikacumu Tutsi bamwe bahindutse abicanyi nyuma ariko nibabuza kuba abacikacumu!
Kuri Padri Ndahimana nkeka ko atari umucikacumu kuko yabaye mu Rwanda adahigwa kugeza ubwo ahaviriye ku bushake bwe!

Umunsi mwiza

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Umunsi

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Jun 16, 2016, 7:34:47 AM6/16/16
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Urazira ubusa. Si nawe mvuga. Nakubwiye risque gusa y'amagambo ko umunyarwanda wese ari umucikacumu. Umucikacumu ni umwere. Uwishe wese aho ava akagera ni umwicanyi, ntashobora na rimwe kuba umucikacumu. 
Ibyo ndimo si morale ni politiki. Uretse ko politiki igirwa n'ibimenyetso bibiri : forces matérielles et forces morales. Mbese ni nk'aho nakubwiye nti politiki yose ishyira imbere cyangwa iyobowe n'umwicanyi w'imbaga cyangwa umukingira ikibaba, nta ntekerezo cyangwa indoto ishobora kubyara yo guhamagarira abanyarwanda kwibohora no kubohora u Rwanda. 
Atari ibyo, kurwanya ingoma ya Kagame ntawakwumva impamvu yabyo. 
Twemere dutobore, tubabwire beguke, tuve muri general happiness abicanyi b'imbaga cyangwa ababakingiye kibaba bashaka kutugumishamo. Kuko kuribo, uko ibintu biriho ubu, bibakomereza leadership ku banyarwanda, bamwe mu gihugu, abandi mu buhungiro. 
Twibohore mu mitwe, twibohore ku bicanyi n'ababashyigikiye, tubigizeyo, niho tuzashobora kubohora abanyarwanda n'u Rwanda bizashoboka. Naho ubundi nkubwire muvandimwe, ni ukwongera gutegereza indi myaka itabarika. Iyo ni politiki nsansa!

Kabeho.

Nkiko Nsengimana

Le 16 juin 2016 à 09:25, "Emmanuel Mwiseneza emwis...@hotmail.com [AVM_Populi]" <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

 

Nihehe ubonye ko nkingira ikibaba umucikacumu w'umwicanyi? Soma neza.
Naho aho bibajyana nimwe muhijyana mu myaka yose mumaze mukora confusion hagati ya politique na morale! 
Cyakoze unyibukije padri uyu ushaka gutaha igihe cyose yirirwaga atuka Kagame n'ishyaka rye ariko akikoma Fdu kurusha fpr!

 Cherchez l'erreur. 

Bonne journée ! 

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Umunsi

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Wasomye nabi baraguseka! Uvuga ko ari umucikacumu igihe yishe ntaba akiri umucikacumu aba yabaye umwicanyi. Iyo uvuga ibya Kagame urivuguruza igihe uvugako Umunyarwanda wese ari umucikacumu, donc Kagame aussi.
Nkiko Nsengimana

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Mukomere NN.

Njye ndabisubiramo kandi mbishimangira. Umunyarwanda wese aho ava akagera ni umucikacumu. Yaba yarabaga  hanze cg mu Rwanda, niba atararokotse ubwicanyi bw'interahamwe yarokotse ubwicanyi bw'inkotanyi. 

Nashishwe cyane n'iyi mvugo yawe aho ugira uti: "Umucikacumu ni umwere. Uwishe wese aho ava akagera ni umwicanyi, ntashobora na rimwe kuba umucikacumu".

Byanyibukije ko inzira ikiri ndende kubera ko bene iyi mvugo isa nishyira igorora abacikacumu-bicanyi ba RPF cyane cyane ko tugenekereje twasanga iyi mvugo yawe iganisha ku yindi mvugo igira iti: "Umucikacumu ni umwere. Uwarokotse (genocide yakorewe abatutsi) wese ni umucikacumu, ntashobora na rimwe kuba umwicanyi."

Wibuke ko ibi bintu aribyo Kagame buri gihe yireguza, avuga ko nta mucikacumu wishe cg ko kwica interahamwe n'abana bazo nta kibi kirimo.

Ni nayo mpamvu buriya bwicanyi bwa RPF bugikomeza kuva muri 1990 mu Rda no muri 1996 muri Congo kugeza uyu munsi amahanga akomeje kubwirengagiza. 

Ni mugihe kandi kubera ko bamwe mu banyapolitiki bacu bakagombye gusobanurira ayo mahanga uko ibintu byifashe basa n'abakiri mu gihirahiro.

Ni ah'Imana yo Mugenga Wa Byose!

JNepo

Pour votre info:

What Remains Hidden in Rwanda: The Role of Tutsi Civilians in Killing Hutus | Foreign Policy Journal

Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA

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Jun 17, 2016, 8:28:28 AM6/17/16
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Bjr à vous trois !


Nonese mwa basangirangendo mwe, ko mbona murizi mpaka ntawongeye gutera ngo abandi bikirize bigahagarira aha, hari icyo  mwemeranyijeho ?  Mwaba se mubonye umwanzuro kuriyi ngingo yo kumenya ngo mu banyarwanda ukwiriye kwitwa umucikacumu ninde ?


Ubutegetsi bwa Kagamé kuva 1994, bushingiye à 100% kuriyi ngingo ya génocide yo mu Rwanda n'abacikacumu bayo. No mu bihe biri imbere, ubutegetsi bushya bwazajyaho bwose, buzagomba gushingira "kurayo makuba" yatubayeho atuma kugezubu imitima yacu ikiva maraso, bityo icya ngombwa kizakorwa akaba ari ukunonosora neza ibyatubayeho nta kugoreka amateka, imitima ya buri wese igasanwa. Nta kundi byagenda !


Nonese niba kugeza kuruyu munota iyo ngingo idashobora kumvwa no gusobanurwa kimwe nabavuga ko baharanira kuba abayobozi bejo, bavuga ko bakora opposition kuri iriya ngoma iri mu Rwanda kumugaragaro, bizagomba kudutwara imyaka ingahe ??? Ntabwo bizoroha !


Par ailleurs, iyi yari débat kubyo Padiri Nahimana yavuze, sinumva icyo FDU ije kumara murizi mpaka aho umwe muri mwe yanditse ati :


"Cyakoze unyibukije padri uyu ushaka gutaha igihe cyose yirirwaga atuka Kagame n'ishyaka rye ariko akikoma Fdu kurusha fpr".


Nonese gipimo cyuko ishyaka iri niri ryaba rirwanya bya nyakuri ingoma ya FPR, ikigereranyo cyabyo n'uko iryo shyaka nyine ryaba rirwanya FPR kurusha FDU ! 


FDU ni ishyaka rya oppositon risanzwe nkayandi yose ! Igihe ayo mashyaka muri rusange atanashoboye byibuze guhurira ku ngamba zimwe na zimwe zatuma akorera hamwe mu kurwanya buriya butegetsi, ni iki giha uri mu ishyaka iri niri uburenganzira bwo kumva ko undi munyarwanda, et de plus wifitiye ishyaka rye, agomba nécessairement gushyigikira iryo shyaka uwo wundi arimo, igihe wenda atanabona ko rikibimérita ! Totalement déplacé et sans objet !!!


Ntihagire unyumva nabi, nuko njye mbyumva.


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Objet : [AVM_Populi] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio
 
 

Nibyo. Na Kagame ni umucikacumu kubera ko iyo interahamwe cg FAR zimugeraho zitari kumurebera izuba. 
Kagame ubwe yaranabivuze kuri BBC HARDTalk ngo iyo Habyara amutanga  byari kuba uko kubera ko ngo bari mu ntambara...!
JNepo
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Nzinink

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"Muri droit hari principe ivuga ko un dommage igomba kuba certain pour être considéré comme tel. Ntabwo wavuga ngo ndakeka ko kanaka yari kwicwa iyo ahaba ngo ubwo ubwicanyi bwakozwe adahari yaraburokotse", Mwemma.
Amategeko hari byinshi adashobora gusobanura. None se nk'umuntu wari mu mahanga umuryango we wose ugatsembwa n'interahamwe cg inkotanyi, twavuga ko atari umucikacumu ngo kubera ko atigeze ahibwa bukware n'interahamwe cg ko atigeze yitaba Imana ayita inama y'inkotanyi? 
Abakora ibarura ry'abacikacumu mu Rwanda ndabona bagifite akazi gakomeye.

Nzinink



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Komera Mado!
Ntangajwe n'iyi sortie yawe wagirango itewe gusa n'ingingo yarebaga Fdu! Iyo umuntu atumvise ikintu, ibyiza ni ukubaza mbere to kuvuga ngo "déplacé et hors sujet"!  
Voici mon idée niba utayumvise:
Abakora opposition kuri Kagame na FPR ye, bakanakora opposition kuri opposition, ntacyo bashobora kugeraho keretse nyine iyo bari ku isiri na fpr. Ibyo kandi ntibitangaje twabonye benshi bakoze nk'abarwanya fpr ariko bagera kuri opposition bagasya batanzitse kandi nawe tukiri kumwe ndumva twarajyaga tubivugana. Résultat rero iba ko ari fpr ibyungukiramo, ndetse bamwe iyo barangije mission yabo barataha bakagororerwa.  Cyakoze hari n'abandi babikora atari uko bakorera fpr ahubwo ari mauvaise stratégie iterwa ahani n'inzigo baba bafitanye na l'ancien régime, mbese abo nibo bavuga ngo aho kugirango bariya basubirane ubutegetsi (uretse ko iba ari na amalgame akenshi), fpr yabugumana. Mbese kuri abo choix ni ebyiri gusa ni fpr
cg bo. Abo nabo ntacyo bashobora kugeraho kuko bameze nk'umuhigi ukurikiye deux lièvres à la fois. Ngiyo impamvu tukiri mu buhungiro 22ans après.
Iriya nteruro yanjye rero iri à sa place muri iyi débat, ariko sinakurenganya, les plaies sont toujours béantes. 
Ku bindi, j'ai dit ce que j'avais à dire: umucikacumu ni uwarokotse ubwicanyi bwashakaga kumuhitana. Ntaho bihuriye n'icyo yakoraga cg yakoze amaze kurokoka.  
Iyo NN avuga ngo uwari umutegetsi kuri gouvernement y'i94 ntiyakwitwa umucikacumu ntitubyemeranyaho kuko niba umuntu yarahizwe ishyamba ryose rya Congo agakizwa nuko yambutse Congo, uwo nawe kuri jye ni umucikacumu. Ntaho kuba umucikacumu bivuga kuba umwere. Tugiye muri logique ya NN, n'Abatutsi twese twemera ko ari abacikacumu wasangamo abari abarwanyi bategereje gusa ko fpr ibageraho ngo batangire akazi. Abo se tuzabambura statut y'ubucikacumu? Et quid y'abatangaga inkunga y'abana cg y'amafaranga byafashaga fpr gukora nayo ubundi bwicanyi?
Voyez-vous la question est complexe!
Aho JNÉPO avuga ko buri munyarwanda ari umucikacumu nabyo simbyemera kuko umuntu
wari i Bugande cg i Burayi cg Amerika ntiwavuga ko yahigwaga. Muri droit hari principe ivuga ko un dommage igomba kuba certain pour être considéré comme tel. Ntabwo wavuga ngo ndakeka ko kanaka yari kwicwa iyo ahaba ngo ubwo ubwicanyi bwakozwe adahari yaraburokotse. Jye niko mbyumva.

Mwemma

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Komera Nzinink!
Ntibigutangaze ko kuba umucikacumu ( rescapé) bisaba ko uba wali aho ibyo wacitse byabereye. Mu ndimi izalizo zose nicyo bishaka kuvuga: échapper, to escape, gucika,...Ni ukuvuga rero ko uwabuze abantu be tuvuge ali nko mu mahanga kubera guturayo cyangwa urugendo, ntitwagombye kumwita umucikacumu. Si ukuvugako atagize ibyago bingana ndetse bishobora kuruta iby'umucikacumu runaka ( Aliko umbabalire sinifuza ko tujya mubyo  gupima akababaro cyangwa ibyago).  
Ibi nigeze kubijyaho impaka n'umuntu wali mu mahanga jenoside iba. Nihaye kumukosora mubwira ko atali "rescapé", aliko yali anciyemo kabili. Naje kumusobanulira ko tutagomba guha amagambo izindi sens, tugera aho twitabaza za dictionnaires, aremera aracururuka, aliko byabaye birebire.
Ndakeka ko ikibazo abanyarwanda dukunda kugira ali ukwanga kwemera sens nyayo y'amagambo. 
Kagire lmana!
 Theo.


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Komera !


Kera nkikora kuri TV mu Rwanda, ibi twabyitaga kuvenga. C-à-d gukomeza gutanga ibisobanuro byinshiiiii kandi bitakiri ngombwa, kuko ababwirwaga babaga barangije kumva icyo ikiganiro, noneho haba ka contre-temps abatechniciens ntibatume gisozwa à temps, uwagitangaga  akaba obligé yo gukomeza kuvugaaa, kugeza byose bihagaritswe comme il se doit !!!!


Argumentation yanjye iracyafite ireme, et c'est plutôt toi qui continue d'afficher toujours une attitude plus que prétentieuse. C'est ce même fait que je relevais dans ton long message, ku igereranya wakoze ryerekeranye na attitude ya Padiri Nahimana par rapport ya FPR na FDU. Et que cela soit déplacé et hors sujet, pour moi ça l'est toujours


Nonese nkubwo uravuze ngo les plaies restent béantesibyo bisebe naba mfite naba mbitawe niki ? No kuba ntakiri mu Inkingi se ???? 


Ooooh là là !!!! Aha nkubise agatwenge !!!!!! 


Ni provocation se ngo mvuge menshi ? Je ne tomberai pas dans ce piège très mal tendu !!!! Nonese uko nayivuyemo kandi ntubizi ? Inama ya nyuma ya Comité de Coordination yabaye munyinginga ngo nze muri ya Congrès yanyu yanyuma, nkagera n'aho mbabwira nti aya marimanganye murimo niyo mipango yose, njye mubimvanemo, ahubwo n'iyo liste éléctorale yawe nariho izina ryanjye murivaneho !!! 


Ushobora kumbwira ikintu kigutera gutangaza "amakuru y'ibyifuzo" yuko naba mbabajwe no kuba ntakiri kumwe namwe ??? Mbabalira unsobanurire ikintu naba naratakaje igihe navuye muriryo shyaka ???? Aha nongeye gukubita agatwenge !!!!!


Ngaho aho byose bipfira ! Kwitera ijeki birasanzwe, aliko iyo inka yarangije kuribwa kera.... A quoi bon ?????


Parfois il est beaucoup plus utile d'être dehors afin de mieux défendre les intérêts de ceux avec qui "vous partagez réellement la cause", surtout quand on vient de passer autant d'années dans des formations politiques, warashoboye kuzunguruka kuva ku mizi kugera ku mashami n'ibibabi, kuko amasomo uhakura akubera impamba ya nyayo mu rundi rugendo uba wiyemeje gutangira "utanizwe"


Naho ibyo kumvikana kw'abarwanya iriya ngoma, kuri terminologie y'ubucikacumu kuri buri munyarwanda, dore ko ari nayo yari sujet de base de la discussion, ndabona inzira ikiri ndende, kimwe n'ibindi byose... Comme si hari ibindi bigeragezo bikenewe, biruta ibyo twaciyemo , ngo ubwenge bubone gusubizwa ku gihe....


Amahoro kuri mwese !


Madochka - Bica 






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Komera Mado!
Ntangajwe n'iyi sortie yawe wagirango itewe gusa n'ingingo yarebaga Fdu! Iyo umuntu atumvise ikintu, ibyiza ni ukubaza mbere to kuvuga ngo "déplacé et hors sujet"!  
Voici mon idée niba utayumvise:
Abakora opposition kuri Kagame na FPR ye, bakanakora opposition kuri opposition, ntacyo bashobora kugeraho keretse nyine iyo bari ku isiri na fpr. Ibyo kandi ntibitangaje twabonye benshi bakoze nk'abarwanya fpr ariko bagera kuri opposition bagasya batanzitse kandi nawe tukiri kumwe ndumva twarajyaga tubivugana. Résultat rero iba ko ari fpr ibyungukiramo, ndetse bamwe iyo barangije mission yabo barataha bakagororerwa.  Cyakoze hari n'abandi babikora atari uko bakorera fpr ahubwo ari mauvaise stratégie iterwa ahani n'inzigo baba bafitanye na l'ancien régime, mbese abo nibo bavuga ngo aho kugirango bariya basubirane ubutegetsi (uretse ko iba ari na amalgame akenshi), fpr yabugumana. Mbese kuri abo choix ni ebyiri gusa ni fpr
cg bo. Abo nabo ntacyo bashobora kugeraho kuko bameze nk'umuhigi ukurikiye deux lièvres à la fois. Ngiyo impamvu tukiri mu buhungiro 22ans après.
Iriya nteruro yanjye rero iri à sa place muri iyi débat, ariko sinakurenganya, les plaies sont toujours béantes. 
Ku bindi, j'ai dit ce que j'avais à dire: umucikacumu ni uwarokotse ubwicanyi bwashakaga kumuhitana. Ntaho bihuriye n'icyo yakoraga cg yakoze amaze kurokoka.  
Iyo NN avuga ngo uwari umutegetsi kuri gouvernement y'i94 ntiyakwitwa umucikacumu ntitubyemeranyaho kuko niba umuntu yarahizwe ishyamba ryose rya Congo agakizwa nuko yambutse Congo, uwo nawe kuri jye ni umucikacumu. Ntaho kuba umucikacumu bivuga kuba umwere. Tugiye muri logique ya NN, n'Abatutsi twese twemera ko ari abacikacumu wasangamo abari abarwanyi bategereje gusa ko fpr ibageraho ngo batangire akazi. Abo se tuzabambura statut y'ubucikacumu? Et quid y'abatangaga inkunga y'abana cg y'amafaranga byafashaga fpr gukora nayo ubundi bwicanyi?
Voyez-vous la question est complexe!
Aho JNÉPO avuga ko buri munyarwanda ari umucikacumu nabyo simbyemera kuko umuntu
wari i Bugande cg i Burayi cg Amerika ntiwavuga ko yahigwaga. Muri droit hari principe ivuga ko un dommage igomba kuba certain pour être considéré comme tel. Ntabwo wavuga ngo ndakeka ko kanaka yari kwicwa iyo ahaba ngo ubwo ubwicanyi bwakozwe adahari yaraburokotse. Jye niko mbyumva.

Mwemma

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Le 17 juin 2016 à 14:28, Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA madoc...@hotmail.com [AVM_Populi] <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :

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Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA

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Mwemma, je suis désolée, mais je ne voulais du tout te blesser !!! Kuba naragusabye kumvana kuri liste yawe mu nama yanyuma yabanjirije ya congrès yanyu ya Alost, ibyo ni ibisanzwe muri politique, ntibyagombye kuduteranya rwose ! Nibitaribi biraba muri politike !


Mais à ce que je vois, ndabona ugishaka kumvugisha menshi par provocation..... Uti aho wagiye byagenze gute ? 


Aho nagiye ndacyahari  kuko narabigusobanuriye incuro zose wabimbajije, n'intumwa zindi zo mu inkingi zanyohererejwe ngo mbagarukemo nsubire muri FDU-Inkingi, abo bose nkabasubiza ko aho nari mu Inkubiri ari njye weguye ku mwanya wubuyobozi ku bushake wanjye, nkasaba kuva mu nzego nkasigara ndi umurwanasyaka usanzwe, kuko nabonaga aribyo binogeye muribi bihe où j'ai d'autres engagements beaucoup plus importantes que ibyo byose muri mo. Nkaba ntumva impamvu ubigarutseho, et une fois de plus c'est déplacé hors sujet ! 


By the way, t'inquiète, kuko aho ndi, je ne me suis jamais sentie aussi mieux placée mururu rugamba turimo, que ce n'est le cas maintenant ! 


Nizeye ko ibi bisobanuro bisoje iyi sujet, nanjye nkaba ngarukiye aha.


Sans rancune !


Madochka - Bica





Envoyé : samedi 18 juin 2016 22:19
À : Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA
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Objet : Re: [AVM_Populi] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio
 
 

Ahubwo ngiyo hors sujet ureke ibyo wavugaga kare. Ngo narakwinginze? Ngo bigende bite? Hanyuma aho wagiye byagenze bite? Winsetsa
Reka rero tweye guta igihe, uretse ko ntacyo nakubuza kuvuga rwose uvuge winigure, je reste égal à moi-même, mais kuko mbona ntaho bitujyana jye ndekeye aha kuri iyi sujet. 

Ugire umugoroba mwiza. 

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Rwose Mwiseneza..... 


Ko iki kiganiro cyari cyashojwe, nkaba mbona ukomeza kunkorera za provocations ubeshya nkana, kandi nakubwiye ko ntashaka kumena amabanga y'ishyaka nahozemo, nkarivamo ku bwende bwanjye, kuko nabonaga ingamba zabo n'uburyo rizishyira mu bikorwa bitagihuje n'imyumvire na priorité zanjye ?  


Ce n'est pas du tout vrai ce que tu dis !


Muriyo nama yanyuma twakoze tudiscuta sur ce soi-disant congrès d'Alost, habaye impaka nyinshi cyane zikaze kuko wowe n'undi wari kuri liste yawe nawe wari usanzwe uri muri comité de coordination ntiriwe mvuga izina waguherekeje muriyo congrès, soudainement mwafashe une position iri radicalement opposé kubyo twari twarumvikanyeho. Njye nahise mbona ko mwembi, à notre insu mwarangije kujya kumvikana n'abari kuyindi liste, kandi tutabibatumye ! J'ai pris cela comme une trahison, gahunda yanyu ikaba iyo kudushyira devant un fait accompli tukabakurikira buhumyi !  Ari naho nyuma byaje kuvugwa na bamwe ko ngo mwaba mwaraguzwe. Icyo  gihe mwembi mwakomeje  kw'insista dans cette logique, munagaragaza cyane ko mushaka ko njye mbakurikira, ari nabwo je me suis énervée nkababwira nti  "murabizi, ahubwo izina ryanjye nimurivane kuriyo liste yawe" ! Nukwibagirwa vuba ? Cyangwa ni abo musangiye ishyaka bari kukugira inama ngo we gukomeza gukina gutya, hindura tactique ishyaka ubereye secrétaire général ritaboneka nabi !!!!! Aha nongeye gukubita agatwenge !!!! 


Wanavugiye muriyo nama amagambo très fort impaka zzimaze kuba urudaca uti : "sinshaka kuzikorera ishyano ry'umuzigo ko ari njye watumye igikorwa cy'ingenzi kigiye kugerwaho gipfa". Kubwanjye numvise ko iyo igomba kuba ari argument abo mwagiye kunégocia nabo baguhaye pour te convaincre. None ko ubu hagiye gushira hafi imyaka ibiri iyo congrès ibaye, icyo gikorwa cyagezwho ? Byagenze gute ngo kitagerwaho ? Uwari warabibasezeranyije yarikase ? Kubera izihe mpamvu ????????


Naho abo mwohereje kunsaba ngo ngaruke mu ishyaka ryanyu, njye mbabereye imfura simbanditse murizi échanges, nkuko ubonye ko ntanditse izina ry'uwo mwafatanyije murizo gahunda zo kujya kunégocia na l'autre liste à notre insû, akanaguherekeza muriyo congrès yanyu ! Kubavug cer serait hors sujet et leur manquer de respect. 


Nagira ngo nakwibutse email nakoherereje wowe n'abandi bamwe mugisangiye ishyaka mbabwira nti " UKO BYAGENDA BYOSE NSHIMISHIJWE NO KUBA NTAKIRI MU INKINGI" ! C'était ma réaction kurabo bose barimo bantesha igihe ngo nimbagarukemo. Hari ababikoze directement, hari n'abanyuze kubandi, y compris mes amis personnelles. Ibyo mvuga njye mba mbifitiye gihamya !


J'ai beaucoup de travail, j'aimerais que cette histoire en reste là. Kuko mubyo ngamije kumena amabanga ntibitimo. Merci 


Ngayo nguko,


Bonne journée !

Madochka - Bica


Envoyé : mardi 21 juin 2016 06:58

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Waramutse Mado!
Nubwo nari niyemeje kurekeraho iyi sujet, mbonye ntareka ngo uhitishe ikinyoma. 
Ntimukabeshye izuba riva, mu nama yabanjirije congrès d'Aalost ntiwigeze unsaba kukuvana ku I liste, ahubwo twakoze vote démocratique twemeza ko tuzajya muri kongere ku bwinshi bw'amajwi, ndetse tunakora un avant-projet à soumettre au congrès. Gusa ku munsi wa congrès wowe n'abandi uzi mwikuye kuri liste kubushake bwanyu kuko mutitabiriye congrès, bityo abayitabiriye dufata ibyemezo bifitiye Ishyaka n'abanyarwanda akamaro tutitaye kuzacu bwite.
Nimba na none hari abantu baje kugushaka ngo ugaruke muri fdu, ubwo nibo mubiziranyeho, jye ntawe natumye, nta nuwo nzi ishyaka ryatumye officiellement, ariko nta nicyo bitwaye ko hari abagerageza kukugarura muri fdu, kuko ibiduhuza nibyo byinshi kuruta ibidutanya.
Ubundi ndangije nkubwira ko ntigeze mba blessé rwose kuko mu myaka 10 maze nkora politique muri fdu, ibitutsi, attaques, guhangana,.., byose ndabimenyereye, je suis immunisé maintenant.
Gusa nanga kujya kure n'umuntu w'umuvandimwe niyo mpamvu je t'avais proposé de mettre fin à la discussion.

Bonne journée!

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Muvandimwe Rushemeza,

Aha rero uhandike uhashinge agati ko tuhatandukaniye bikomeye. 

Nemera ko ubuyobozi bwa APR, kuko mu by'ukuri aribwo bwategekaga FPR, bufite uruhare rukomeye mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu gihugu. Nyuma kandi uko abanyabyumba bishwe urubozo, ntabwo nshidikanya na rimwe ko ari APR, nyuma byarakomeje igihugu cyose uretse ahari ahitwaga "Zone Turquoise", kugeza aho itsembeye impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo, njye ntatinya kwita itsembabwoko ry'impunzi z'abahutu.
Vuga itsembabwoko nyarwanda ariko uhite uvuga abo yahitanye.

Ariko se muvandi? Ko twari mu Rwanda muri 1994 twese, ni iki cyakuboshye kandi kikikuboshye gituma udahamya ukomeje ibyo wabonye ko n'ubutegetsi bw'ingoma ya Habyarimana, itaraguye amaze kwicwa, bufite nabwo uruhare rukomeye mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu gihugu mbere ya 1994? 

Sinemera ko itsembabwoko ryateguwe mu nzira ya planification n'iyo ngoma. Nta planification yabaye, ku bwanjye nanabihamije muri TPIR no mu nyandiko zindi bwite. Ariko kandi itsembabwoko ntirigomba planification ngo ryitwe itsembabwoko. Interahamwe zaramanutse amanywa ava, twarazibonye. Zari zifite kandi gitegeka. Iyo gitegeka kandi ni abambari b'ingoma ya Habyarimana. 

Kuki utinya kuhagera ngo uhatoneke? Bigutwaye iki kandi byakiza byinshi? Nako ngo ni chaos cyangwa ni FPR yari yihishe muri izo nterahamwe! Abaziyoboraga se bamaze kubona ko ari infiltrés bakoze iki ngo bazisobanurire, maze nizanga bazirwanye? Gukekwaho ubwitso bw'inkotanyi ko bitari byanditse ku gahanga, babibwirwaga n'iki?

Iwacu ni i Gitarama cya Ndiza, nkumenyesheje ko, mbere ko abashakaga kwica abatutsi bakoresha imbunda, ngo hanaze abategetsi bashyigikiye ubwicanyi, abarwanyaga ukwica abatutsi bitwaje imihoro barushaga imbaraga abashakaga kwica abatutsi.

Uravuga ngo dusase inzobe, ndabyemera, nta n'igihe kubwanjye ntabihamagariye. Hari n'ibindi bibazo by'ingutu byatumye ubu turi impunzi, tutanabuga rumwe, nituticara ngo tubiganireho, dufate imyanzuro ihamye, tugangahure ibigomba kugangahurwa. Ndakurahiye Imana y'i Rwanda, twicare muri general happiness turimo ubu, tuzirikana ariko ko tuzahera i Shyanga. 

Ibibera muri Kongo ubu aho impunzi nyarwanda ziraswa n'izindi mpunzi nyarwanda birabikwereka. Ngo hari abanyapolitiki babatezeho amakiriro, nababwira iki?

Ntawe uboshye ushobora kubohora undi. Turacyaboshye, turacyaboshywe n'abambari bamwe b'ingoma ya Habyarimana, bihishe inyuma y'amashyaka amwe n'amwe, badashaka ko dusasa iyo nzobe nyine kuko uko turiho uku bitabangamiye. 

Ntawe tuzacira urubanza, ariko bemeye tukavugana ibibazo byose imbonenkubone bituma tugeze aho kurasana turi impunzi, twavanamo inzira y'ukwibohora. Naho ubundi, kura inkoni.

Kabeho.
Nkiko Nsengimana

Le 21 juin 2016 à 07:16, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a écrit :

Kabeho nawe muvandi.

Unyihanganire kuba ntaguhamagaye mw'izina ryawe kuko mbona utashatse ko ligaragara.Cyakora ndakeka no uli Bwana Nkiko .Niba ali wowe rero komera kandi ndagushimira ibi bibazo byiza umbajije.Kwihalira urubuga byo ndumva ntacyo byaba bitwaye kuko twese dusenyera ku mugozi umwe.Koko aliko byarushaho kuba byiza ibitekerezo bya benshi bibonetse niho umusaruro wagwira kandi ali mwiza.

D'abord kuba wemera inyito ya genocide nyarwanda biranshimishije kuko uku ni ukuli bamwe mu ba nyarwanda barwanya kubera inyungu za politiki.Biranumvikana kandi ko abapfuye bo mu moko yombi batiyishe.Muli iliya nyandiko yanjye nagize ndende ku mpamvu zo kugerageza kuba clair bihagije , navuze ko FPR yishe abaturage bo mu bwoko bw'abahutu mu turere yali yarafashe ,yica abatutsi b'abagogwe,yica n'abahutu benshi cyane  mu turere twali mu maboko ya Leta y'u Rwanda nyuma yo guhanura indege y'umukuru w'igihugu.Na nyuma yaho uzi ibyo FPR yakoze nkuko nanabisobanuye muli iliya comment yanjye.

Ku rundi ruhande nasobanuye ko abaturage bamaze kubona ibibaye ntibashidikanije k'uwishe President wabo.Nabo bahise batangira guhiga abali baraketsweho ubwitso babanaga mu quartiers malheureusement who happened to be majoritairement abo mu bwoko bw'abatutsi.Aliko uzi ko n'abahutu bitaga ibyitso bishwe.Babazizaga kubakekaho ubugambanyi gusa na none ikibabaje n'uko bakubiranyemo n'abana n'abakecuru nkuko FPR/Kagame nayo yabigenzaga.Uransaba gusobanura neza abo bicanyi abo alibo.aha ngerageje kuba precis wakeka ko hali abo mpishira ali yo mpamvu ntanga icyifuzo cy'ibiganiro byimbitse abakiliho,bagize ibyo babona bagatanga umusanzu mu kugaragaza abishoye mu bwicanyi abenshi baba bashaka gushyira ku gahanga ka Leta ya Habyarimana ni'iya Sindikubwabo.Icyo nahagararaho gusa ni uko Ihanurwa ry'indege ryakulikiwe na chaos.Yali inasanzwe mu by'ukuli igihugu cyali kitagitegekwa muli sens yo gukontrola abaturage no kubarengera.Ulibuka imyigaragambyo,kubohoza,kudakora akazi ka Leta n'ibindi.Ibi kandi uzi ko byali ingaruka z'akajagali k'amashyaka menshi 'intambara yayogozaga igihugu cyose naho yali itaragera burya yali ihali ikonje.Wibuke nanone impuzi zirenga miliyoni zali mu mbago y'umujyi wa Kigali.Iyi Chaos FPR yayihinduye inka ikamwa.Iracengera yica abo ishaka ba Gapyisi,baBucyana,ba Gatabazi.Nyuma y'iraswa ry'indege jyewe naguhamiliza ko ali FPR yayoboraga ubwicanyi muli Kigali ikoresha ses infiltres.No kuli za barrieres habagamo abicanyi ba FPR alibo ngo babaga bakaze mu gutunga agatoki abicwa.Hali n'andi mayeli FPR yakoreshaga kugirango ubwicanyi bukomeze kandi bukwire hose.Enquete yimbitse na za temoignages zitabogamye zishobora kuzabereka ibitangaza niziba nyine zibashije kubaho.

Ikosa likorwa n'abitwa ko bahanganye na FPR/Kagame n'ugushaka positionnement politique mu buryo bwo kwibonekeza neza imbere y'amahanga bayafasha guhunga responsabilite criminelle et politique yo kuba balimitse le devil and his angels who use their pitchforks to torment the rwandan souls for eternity.Baliyibagiza situation chaotique igihugu cyali kimazemo iminsi yaje kunyuka umukuru w'igihugu n'umukuru w'ingabo mu gihugu kilimo itambara bapfiliye limwe,abasilikare n'abapolisi nta ntwaro bafite,bahanganye na RPF surarme et bien prepare bati Leta yaliho igomba kubazwa ibitaragenze neza.Ibyo biroroshye aliko nta shingiro bifite kuko na Leta yashyizweho mu ngorane zitoroshye ntacyo yashoboraga kugeraho kuko yali ifite umuze wo kubakirwa ku mucanga w'ashyaka menshi n'abaministri badafite experience ibyo byose ali l'ONU ibihambiranya kugirango ihe chance RPF.Izi ni facts zitsinda abashahuye u Rwanda ku buryo utababwira ngo nibakore enquete kw'ihanurwa ry'indege nibyayikulikiye kuko ni aho haturuka responsability nyayo.

Muli make les dignitaires du regime detruit kugira icyo ubashinja ni ukuva ku muntu ukajya ku giti.Icyiza kugeza ubu ,Imana ntirenganya, byagaragaye ko nta responsabilite gouvernementale qui suppose la planification de ce fameux genocide yabaye, a ce que je sache cfr Urukiko rwa Arusha.Tugomba gutaha twemye tudatanzeho ibitambo inzirakarengane.Kagame n'amabandi yakoreshe ngo abone iteme ryo gufata ubutegetsi nibo bagomba kuryozwa ishyano ryagwililiye u Rwanda.Ibi kugirango bishoboke nimuze dusase inzobe twebwe abali mu Rwanda icyo gihe baba abahutu cyangwa abatutsi,baba abakiga cyangwa abanyanduga,n'amashyaka ya politique na societe civile tuvugishe ukuli maze murebe ko butazacya dutaha.

Reka ndangize nsubiramo ko Umwicanyi umwe nakwita ruharwa ni FPR/Kagame avec au moins 90% du forfait.Uwa kabili ni uruvangitirane rw'imbyiruko z'amashyaka n'abaturage batagira isoni ba bandi kw'isi hose baprofita le chaos bakishakira ibyo bajyaga bifuza ntibabashe kubibona.Rwose ntugirengo nyobewe ko hali aba dignitaires  nka ba Bourgs bashoboraga gukulikira abaturage mu bikorwa bibi mu rwego rwo kwikundisha.Sinyobewe ko hali abasilikare bake cyane bataye urugamba bakiha  mission yo kugira abo bica.Izi cases ni exceptions sinzitindaho kandi abatarahanwe bazatinda bahanwe.Icyo abanyarwanda bagomba kwilinda ni theory politique ya generation et culpabilisation collective yigisha ko ubwicanyi bwateguwe n'inzego zinyuranye z'ubutegetsi bugashyirwa mu bikorwa n'abaturage nkuko Kagame n'abamwimitse babishaka kuko nibwo buryo bwonyine bwo kwikuraho icyaha.Mucyo twoye kuguma muli uwo mutego dushakisha kandi twamamaza ukuli.Niko kuzatwunga tukabasha guhangana n'umwanzi ukomezwa n'uko twishe amateka yacu tugacikamo ibice.

Thomas.

À : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr


Envoyé le : Lundi 20 juin 2016 12h04
Objet : Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio

Rusheme!

Nanze kugumya kwiharira urubuga ngo ndeke n'abandi bavuge ibitekerezo byabo. 

Nanemeye inyito yawe ya jenoside nyarwanda, noneho se bishwe na nde ? Aha ntuhasobanura ngo uhatobore neza. Bariyishe se? La responsabilité criminelle et politique ni iyande? FPR yonyine cyangwa hari abandi batinya gutobora kuvuga? Kuki bahishirwa, ubona twazabohora abanyarwanda n'u Rwanda tutabavuze ? Nibadahigama wumva inzira izaba iyihe? Ni iki nita kuba ingwate y'abicanyi. Ubutegetsi bwa FPR ni bubi ibi bidasubirwaho, ariko ntibivuga kugira abere abandi bicanyi! Cyangwa se kuri wowe nta bandi bicanyi?

Aha hantu nitutahakanda, musase bugari, hehe no gusubira iwacu.

Kabeho.

Le 19 juin 2016 à 02:51, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a écrit :

Ndabaramukije Basangirangendo  mwese muteraniye kuli uru rubuga rwa YouthDemocrats.

Ndamukije by'umwihaliko ba Bwana Mwiseneza E, Nkiko N.,J Nepo na Mugara E.kandi nshima ibitekerezo batugezaho kuli kimwe mu bibazo byinshi abanyarwanda batavugaho rumwe.

Mbere yo kubunganira ndabanza kwisegura kuko ibibazo by'u Rwanda ubu byabaye inshobera banyarwanda kubera intambara y'amagambo n'ibitekerezo byaranze amateka y'u Rwanda biyubakiye ku kinyoma,munyangire na ntacyoduhuliyeho itera umwiryane aho abanyarwanda bahuliye hose.Iyi ntambara inagaragalira mu magambo dukoresha.Twitana amazina kugirango dupfobyane bityo twigizanyeyo:abajenosideri,abacikacumu,interahamwe,anciens dignitaires,abahagalitse genocide y'abatutsi,abayiteguye n'abayishyize mu bikorwa,ababoshye,ababohora,ndumunyarwanda bivuga ko hali utali we,ingengabitekerezo,..etc urutonde ni rurerure cyane.Iyi ntambara irakaze kandi iyoborerwa i Kigali.Hali igihe rero nitegereza nkabona duhuzagulika mu byo tutazi.Urugero n'uko tumarana uwazanye ijambo umucikacumu yigaramiye.Ijambo rye kuli we nta mayobera kuko yalihaye contenu inagaragara mu buzima bwa buli munsi.Umucikacumu muli lexicologie ya FPR ni umututsi.Yiswe atyo,anateganyilizwa n'impozamalira y'ubwoko bwose,ibyo murabizi.Kujya impaka zubaka kuli ili jambo n'andi magambo ajijisha,abanyarwanda batavugaho rumwe birasaba ko abanyarwanda babona ko ntaho bazagera nibakomeza iyi ntambara uretse kuzashira.Ni ngombwa ko habaho ibiganiro bizavanaho urujijo ruterwa no kutavuga rumwe ku byatubayeho dushingiye ku kuli,ukuli konyine.Iyi yali nka introduction n'ubwo ali ndende bwose.
Igitekerezo cyanjye kuli iyi concept y'umucikacumu w'umunyarwanda,ihuye n'iya abavuga ko umunyarwanda wese wali mu Rwanda kuva muli 90 ukiliho cyangwa witabye Imana azize urw'ikirago n'umucikacumu w' intambara ya FPR n'ubwicanyi bwayo bwibasiye cyane cyane abahutu n'ubwabaye aho FPR yali itaragera  bwibasiye abatutsi n'abahutu biswe abagambanyi.Ndakoresha ijambo cyane cyane kuko hali n'aho FPR yishe abatutsi igamije kubyegeka kuli Leta yarwanyaga ,urugero rukunze gutangwa ni urw'abatutsi b'abagogwe.K'umuntu wali mu Rwanda udashaka kugoreka amateka mu nyungu za politiki azi ibyabereye mu turere twaberagamo intambara ibyinshi biranditse.Abali batuye utwo turere bateranilijwe  hamwe baraswa urufaya ku buryo hali n'abo Kagame yirasiye ubwe;abandi batezwe za mines;abandi bicishwa udufuni n'utundonyi;abandi baraswa umugenda kugera mu marembo ya Kigali aho benshi batikiliye bishwe n'imibereho mibi n'indwara z'ibyorezo.Abarokotse nta gushidikanya n'abacikacumu.Ni n'abacikacumu bya nyabyo kuko abansnhi ntibagize ayo mahirwe.Urugero ni Byumba yali yabaruwemo abaturage barenga 900.000 nyuma y'intambara hakaboneka abagera kuli 150.000.
 I Kigali naho aho indege y'Umukuru w'Igihugu irasiwe,hadutse ubwicanyi bwakozwe n'abaturage barakajwe n'ububisha bwa FPR yagaragaje igitera igihugu muli 90 kugeza aho iciye umutwe w'ubutegetsi bw'igihugu cyabo.Mu by'ukuli kwali ukwitabara uko bashoboye bya gikene kuko ntibashidikanyaga ko alibo batahiwe.

Ku rundi ruhande FPR nayo yalicaga ikoresheje les inflitres bageraga ku bihumbi icumi cyangwa birenga.Uwali i Kigali ntiyashidikanya kuko umujyi wali warahindutse, wagirango ni amahanga.Abasikare ba RPF balimo ba kavukire b'i Kigali n'utundi turere baragaragara mu mujyi hatali muli CND.Wababaza icyo bakora bati ntimwasinye se amasezerano y'amahoro?Abandi twalitubatunze nk'ababoyi tutabazi.Abandi bali barakinguye ama bars alimo abatagire banywera bataha abasilikare ba FPR bakaza kurara inkera.Ntumbaze icyo ba maneko bakoraga ntarakalira isi.Aba bose bishoye mu bwicanyi muli za quartiers zose z'umujyi wa Kigali.No mu cyaro ahali administration parallele ya FPR, les inflitres bali bahali ibyo bakoze nabyo bizamenyekana.Ibi byose birabagaragaliza ko ubwicanyi bwabaye bwakozwe bwali bwibasiye abanyarwanda bose alicyo gituma abavugisha ukuli babwise genocide rwandais.Kagame arwanya iyi nyito kwali ukwikingira ikibaba ngo igihe nikigera atazaba ali we uyigerekwaho kubera ko yashoje intambara n'akavuyo kashiliyemo imbaga y'abanyarwanda.Arakorera ubusa aliko igihe kizagera ikimwaro kimukore kimwe n'abagerageza guscoringa inyungu za politiki bamufasha kugoreka amateka  y'u Rwanda.Aha byumvikane neza gukomeza kuvuga ngo genocide n'iyakorewe abatutsi bonyine,ngo yateguwe na Habyarimana abifashijwemo n'inzego za politiki n'iza societe civile cyane cyane amadini, mu gihugu cyose bigomba kuba bitagifite isoko kuko urukiko rukomeye mpuzamahanga ngirango nta planification nk'iyo rwabonye.

Ikibabaje n'i inzirakarangane zapfuye kandi n'ubu zigipfa zizize icyo zilicyo.Zapfiliye mu Rwanda,mu mahanga cyane cyane mu nkambi no mu mashyamba ya Congo,Gisangani,Tingitingi,tutibagiwe abaguye i Kibeho(1995) ,Ruhengeli ,Gisenyi na Kigali Ngali(1998).Abahanga bakoze ubushakashatsi bemeza ko uruhare rwa Kagame mu bwicanyi bw'abanyarwanda rutagereranywa.Niho mpera nibaza abahakana inyito ya genocide rwandais aho babihera.Niho mpera nibaza aho abahakana ko buli munyarwanda wese ali umucikacumu mu gihe ntarumva hali uhakana imvugo ko nta munyarwanda utarakozwe mu inda na kiliya kiza cy'intambara. Mu by'ukuli na bali hanze mu kazi ka Leta cyangwa mu mashuli n'abacikacumu kuko iyo baza kuba bali mu Rwanda wenda nibo ryali guheraho.

Mumbabalire comment yabaye ndende.Nageragezaga gusobanura nk'umuntu wali utuye i Kigali aho narusimbutse inshuro enye zose zilimo amasasu,amabombe,n'ibindi.Ntabaye umucikacumu ninde waba we.Imirambo irenga 200  twabyutse tugasanga yuzeye uduhanda twa quartier twali dutuyemo bishwe nande iali RPF.Abazi i Remera za Kicukiro muzababaze abahutu bahatikiliye uko bangana.

Reka ndangilize ku gitekerezo cya mucuti wanjye  Nkiko ntagutererana amagambo aliko.Ndakeka ko yibeshya kubo yita ababoshye n,abababoshye.Abanyarwanda uzasanga babohotse mu mitwe kuko n'ubwo bicecekeye bazi ibyababayeho n'ibisubizo by'ibibazo byabiteye.Ni koko Kagame agerageza kubaboha aliko burya baramuhema iyo arebye hirya.Bashatse bamwibutsa ko 59 yabaye nyuma y'icurabulindi bamazemo imyaka irenga 400,yaje nk'umurabyo abali barababoshye  ntibasobanukirwa.Ku bwanjye abo mbona baboshye nabi kandi bikomeye n'abagenda ingendo ya Kagame,bagasubiramo imvugo ye nka gasuku,bakerekana ko icyo bapfa na we kidakomeye cyane kuko batakoze genocide y'abatutsi kandi ko bayemera.Aba navuga ko baniboha kuko abenshi bali kure ya Kagame mu bilometero birenga 8000 ,bakaba baragize igihe gihagije cyo gushakisha no kumenya ukuli aliko bagahitamo kukwirengagiza bakeka ko alibwo buryo bwiza bwo kuzagera ku butegetsi bitabagoye(racourci politique).Kuvuga ko hali abandi baboshye abantu abo nkeka bavugwa bakaba ali aba dignitaires b'ingoma ya Habyarimana mbona ali ugushinyagura.None se abafunze ,abafunze kinwa ngo barebe ko baramuka badatawe muli yombi baboha abantu bishyira bakizana bate?Ahubwo kwa kuli ngo guca mu ziko ntigushye niko kubera ibamba abanyapolitiki bameze nka ba Bamporiki kandi nibo basabasa bahawe rugali n'itoteza mpuzamahanga ry'ibisigisi by'aba leaders ba regime yatsinzwe mu rwego rwo gushyigikira Kagame.Kwibohora n'ukwanga ikinyoma cyacuzwe cyikanamamazwa na RPF/Kagame n'abamushyize ku ntebe.Aba bigobotoye Kagame yahita atsindwa maze amahoro n'amahirwe bigataha i Rwanda aho abacikacumu twese twazabana akaramata mu mahoro no mu bwumvikane.Aliko ubundi ayo magambo y'abazungu na invasion yabo mu buzima bwacu tubyemerera iki,niba nta zindi nyungu zibyihishe inyuma?Mu mateka y'u Rwanda ndetse n'ibindi bihugu abantu bagiraga icyo bapfa bararwanaga bagakiranurwa n'uko babonye umuti w'ikibazo.Aya majyambere yo gukoresha genocide mbona nka virus ya sida bateye imibanire y'abanyarwanda.Njyewe ndayamaganye kandi sinkina.






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Muvandimwe Rushemeza,

Wisya wanzitse uvuga gusa uruhare rukomeye FPR/APR/DMI yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu Rwanda, wowe wita itsembabwoko nyarwanda, uruhare rwose yanagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo. Sya unanditse uvuga uruhare ingoma ya Habyarimana yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Interahamwe n'Impuzamugambi zari zifite gitegeka urabizi, ari muri MRND, ari muri CDR. Aba GP n'indi mitwe y'ingabo mike izwi nabo bari bafite abazikuriye, batari muri Etat major,

Le 23 juin 2016 à 22:31, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a écrit :




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 Komera cyane Muvandimwe kandi Nshuti Nkiko

Ndabanza gushima byimazeyo intera igaragara mu kugira aho duhulira.Ndizera ko mu gihe kitarambiranye imigozi ituboshye niba ihali izatulika tugahoberana kandi bikaba byafasha n'abandi bashobora kuba baboshye.Iyi ntera mvuga iragaragalira mubyo tumaze kwemeranyaho bitagaragaraga neza ko tubihuje tugitangira.Icya mbere n'ukwemeranya ku nyito y'ubwicanyi bwabaye mu Rwanda aliyo genocide nyarwanda.Icyakabili ni uruhare rukomeye cyane  FPR/Kagame bagize mu bwicanyi bwose, ubw'abahutu n'ubw' abatutsi hafi mu gihugu hose no hanze yacyo.Jyewe, nkulikije ibyo abashakashatsi bakwiye ikizere kubera acces facile bagize kuli informations bavanaga ahantu hizewe, naguhaye ikigereranyo cya 90% y'abanyarwanda bishwe na FPR ibaziza icyo bali cyo mu nyungu za politiki aliyo yo kwitwaza genocide ngo babone embargo contre les FAR bityo bifatire ubutegetsi bitabagoye.Icya gatatu ni uko nta planification yabaye ku ruhande rwa Leta y'u Rwanda.Gusa kuba wemeza ko panification atali condition sine qua non kugirango ubwicanyi bwitwe genocide,mbanje kureba definition y'iryo jambo riduhora mu kanwa.Nsanze izi extraits zikulikira zadufasha gutekereza kurutaho bitali icyuka nka kimwe kiranga ba rusisibiranya bo muli FPR na ya opposition ya ba Rwanda rw'ejo.

"Le génocide, crime de droit international

Le génocide entendu comme acte criminel entraînant la responsabilité internationale du coupable a été défini pour la première fois dans la Convention pour la prévention et la répression du crime de génocide, signée à Genève en 1948. Cette définition, reprise dans les statuts des tribunaux internationaux pénaux ad hoc établis par le Conseil de sécurité de l’ONU et intégrée à l’article 6 du Statut de Rome instituant la Cour pénale internationale, se lit comme suit :
 

« (...) le [crime de] génocide s’entend de l’un quelconque des actes ci-après, commis dans l’intention de détruire, ou tout ou en partie, un groupe national, ethnique, racial ou religieux, comme tel : a) Meurtre de membres du groupe ; b) Atteinte grave à l’intégrité physique ou mentale de membres du groupe ; c) Soumission intentionnelle du groupe à des conditions d’existence devant entraîner sa destruction physique totale ou partielle ; d) Mesures visant à entraver les naissances au sein du groupe ; e) Transfert forcé d’enfants du groupe à un autre groupe.»

 

« dans l’intention de détruire (...) un groupe (...) comme tel »

L’acte commis doit en outre l’être dans l’intention explicite de détruire le groupe, et conçu pour favoriser la réalisation de cet objectif. Le génocide est dirigé contre le groupe en tant qu’entité : les actions qu’il entraîne sont menées contre des individus, non en raison de leurs qualités individuelles, mais uniquement parce qu’ils sont membres du groupe visé. Ainsi, la victime ultime du crime n’est pas l’individu, mais le groupe. Ce dernier est par ailleurs le plus souvent défini et circonscrit par les agresseurs, sans qu’il soit nécessaire de manifester de sentiment d’appartenance ou même de choisir (ou de nier) son rattachement.

Il n’y a pas de seuil quantitatif de victimes : ainsi, il est concevable que le meurtre d’une seule personne puisse donner lieu à une accusation de génocide, si l’on peut prouver l’intention requise associée à sa commission ; inversement, un massacre de masse peut échapper à la qualification de génocide si cette intention est absente ou ne peut être prouvée. Ceci peut créer des problèmes de compréhension, notamment au sein du grand public.

 Du point de vue juridique, la généralisation du terme à toute instance de massacre de masse est abusive, en ce qu’elle fait fi des critères spécifiques qui permettent justement d’établir la distinction entre le génocide et d’autres atrocités, parfois même plus meurtrières et tout aussi choquantes, même si l’on pourra pourtant appliquer à ces dernières la figure plus générale du crime contre l’humanité. Un exemple de cette articulation parfois malaisée entre des comportements horrifiants et la qualification de génocide est la tristement célèbre pratique du « nettoyage ethnique », laquelle peut ou non, selon le cas, constituer un acte de génocide, selon qu’il est possible d’établir l’intention de détruire le groupe et non « simplement » celle de l’expulser.

Au delà de la typologie, ou du débat sur la banalisation du concept, ce problème d’étiquetage révèle à quel point le terme a acquis une charge émotive particulière aux yeux du public. La controverse entourant le Rapport de la Commission Internationale d’Enquête sur le Darfour (ONU) en 2004 démontre également cet aspect plus dramatique du débat. Ainsi, d’aucuns se sont dits outrés de voir que la Commission d’enquête n’a pas jugé détenir de preuves suffisantes pour soutenir une dénonciation de génocide dans le rapport, et ce même s’il ne fait aucun doute que les comportements observés « ont été menés de façon systématique et répandue et peuvent donc constituer des crimes contre l’humanité » (la CPI ajoutera éventuellement à son mandat d’arrêt contre le président soudanais Omar El-Béchir la charge de génocide en juillet 2010). Ces derniers sont, en théorie tout aussi graves et répugnants que le génocide, lui-même crime dirigé contre l’humanité de ses victimes. Mais l’impact cathartique n’est pas le même : on préfère revendiquer la caractérisation de génocide pour mettre en évidence de façon indéniable la gravité extrême du sort subi, comme s’il existait une échelle de gradation. En ce sens, le génocide semble avoir conservé, à l’échelon international, son statut peu enviable de « crime des crimes »."

UQAM
15 mars 2011

 Wihangane usome entre les lignes urabona ko muli caracterisation ya genocide halimo necessairement l'intention prouvee.Birumvikana ko iyi intention prouvee ikunda kugaruka ali ubundi buryo bwo kuvuga planification.Sindeba uruhande uhagararamo cyangwa ubogamiramo kugirango ukoreshe imvugo ya Kagame ufite ibyo ahunga niwe ukunda iyo mvugo ngo abantu ntibiyishe.Utazi se ko abenshi ali we wabishe abandi akabicisha ni inde?.N'ubundi iby'i wacu bijya gucika ijambo genocide ni FPR n'ama ONG yali yaraguze notamment Survie ya  Carbonare baryadukanye mu Rwanda bwa mbere."Début 1993, un an avant le génocide au Rwanda, Jean Carbonare, alors Président de Survie, avait été enquêteur de la commission parrainée par la Fédération internationale des droits de l'homme, Africa Watch, l'UIDH (Ouagadougou) et le CIDPDD/ICHRDD (Montréal). Cette commission avait enquêté au Rwanda, puis publié un rapport dénonçant les prémisses d'un génocide. Jean Carbonare intervint au journal de 20 heures avec Bruno Masure pour alerter les Français sur ce risque,(voir la 4e partie de l'article sur les critiques formulées contre cette commission) sur la base d'une enquête sur le terrain en janvier 1993.
 Selon ses détracteurs, le rapport a ete redige sur la base de témoignages qui lui auraient été fournis directement par des proches de Kagame, comme Janvier Africa, qui aurait avoué des années plus tard avoir menti sur ordre du FPR".Icyo nizera kidakuka ni uko igihe nikigera ababoshye barabohotse ,planification ya genocide izaboneka kwa Kagame dore aho nibereye. Koko rero wongere usome definition ya genocide et ses caracterisations urasanga FPR yarayikoze ku buryo busukuye wagereranya n'ubwa Shoah.Muvandimwe nizere ko utali mubaduteje ba rusarulira mu nduru nka bali ba Jean Carbonare kuko namwita mugenzi wawe mu bayobozi ba za ONG nabonye jyewe par principe ziba buli gihe ali opposes au  pouvoiren place.

Igisigaye  ni ukurebera hamwe nanone uruhare abicanyi bo ku ruhande rwa Leta y'u Rwanda no gusesengura neza tukamenya  abo bicanyi abo ali bo icyabibateye n'icyo bali bagamije.Mbere y'uko ngira icyo mvuga kuli uru ruhare ushaka kwita urw'ingoma ya Habyarimana kubera ahali ko ubwicanyi buvugwa ko bwakozwe ni interahamwe.Reka mbanze nkwibutse ko ijambo INTERAHAMWE ali ijambo ligomba kwitonderwa n'abanyarwanda cyane cyane abahagaralire rubanda nk'abapolitisiye ejo mutazavaho mubambisha abo mwagombaga kurengera.Ili jambo lifite multiple definitions kimwe n'ijambo ligezweho Ndumunyarwanda.Iyo nawe nzi uzi aliko ukaba uyirengagiza ni iya FPR.Kuliyo umuhutu wese ni interahamwe.Undi wese bakeka ko atabashyigikiye ni interahamwe nka Mitterrand.Nkulikije ubushakashatsi  na observations personelles,burya amashyaka yose yagiraga imbyiruko zabagamo les indisciplines.Abo nibo bafashe ibikoresho byabo byo mu ngo bajya kwishakira ibyo batali bafite.Byorohejwe n'umwuka wali uherutse guterwa n'urupfu rwa Ndadaye ,ubwicanyi burenze kwihanganirwa rw'abapolitisiye n'abaciviles batali ku rugamba.Inflitration n'umugambi yali ishinzwe nayo yashyizeho akayo.Bien sure la disparution inopinee du Chef de l'Etat n'abayobozi bakomeye b'igihugu na faiblesse y'ingirwa gouvernement yagiyeho dans des conditions deplorables byahise biha rugali les malfaiteurs bali bien encadres par le FPR. yo yali bien fourni en armes,en organisation et en moyens de propagande mediatique.que les FAR qui avaient ete depossedes du peu d'armes qu'ils avaient par la MINUAR.Mujye mushyira mu gaciro mwibaze impamvu abafransa birukanwe;impamvu MINUAR yatereranye u Rwanda.Ni inde ibi byahaga inyungu?Embargo sur les armes yashyiliweho les FAR yali iyo gufasha guhagalika ubwicanyi bwakorwaga na les mafaiteurs bakoreshwaga na Kagame inyuma y'ingabo z'u Rwanda? 


Kuvuga ngo bali bafite ababayobora bali muli gouvernement ya Habyarimana c'est faux.Ubundi kandi ubanza wirengagiza ko gouvernement yabanje kuba iya Nsengiyaremye utarumvikanaga  na Shebuja na gato ku buryo yali yaramwirukanye muli iyo Gov.Amahano!!!Le gouvernement ephemere ya Agatha nayo ntiyali gouvernement yali akajagali.iyo gouvernent se yaba yarateguye ite iyo genocide?Ushobora kuba ushaka kuvuga ko abayobozi ba MRND  alibo bali bagize gouvernement ya Habyarimana.Archfaux kuko yali imaze igihe yubakiye ku mashyaka menshi.Ikindi ni uko Habyarimana atali akili mu nzego za MRND.Abakatiwe na Arusha n'abarekuwe barahagije ngo bigaragare ko nta kintu kitwa kuyobora bya hafi cg bya kure byigeze bibaho.Uba se ushaka  kuvuga ko Gouvernement ya Kambanda ali igisigara cya regime ya Habyarimana kigomba kuba cyarakomeje umugambi?Ibyawe ntibyumvikana wagirango uracyakora politiki nk'imwe yakozwe mu gihe cy'intambara yali igamije kwambura ubutegetsi Habyarimana hatazwi uzabufata.Guhuzagulika no kugambanira igihugu buhumyi!!!.N'ibyo bibazo bindi mufite muzabishyire ahagaragara tubicoce aliko mfite ubwoba ko nta bushake bwo gukemura ibibazo kubera ubwibone,ubuswa,no kwikunda bya bamwe muli twe bituma bahitamo kwibera ba bangamwabo baha icyanzu FPR igasarulira mu nduru.Inama natanga ni uko abanyarwanda bakwicisha bugufi,bakareka speculations,bakareka gutsimbarara ku turere twabo no ku mashyaka na za guvernements bahoze biyumvamo,bakabaza ibibazo ,bagasaba inama  inaralinbonye z'indahemuka nka ba Enoch Ruhigira n'abandi bakiliho kandi bakumva ibisubizo,bagafata inama.Nkanjye ukubwira aya magambo ngerageza kugira menshi nkaho twaba twicaye tuganira,simanura ibintu mu kirere.Nakulikiranye ikibazo cy'intambara,icy'imishyikirano  n'amasezerano ya Arusha.akazi nakoraga kashoboraga gutuma ngira apercu general ku mivukire no ku mikorere  y'imbyiruko z'amashyaka.Ibi byatumye nkenerwa  gutanga  temoignage muli  TPIR sur Le Vrai Visage de la Crise Rwandaise:le role de la guerre imposee au Rwanda par le FPR,l'ouverture politique aux partis opposes au pouvoir et de leurs jeunesses en temps de guerre.L'avocat de la defense wali wanyifuje yali yansabye kwisanzura kuli la Jeunesse Interahamwe.Ibyo nabikoze n'umutima mwiza  abali muli audience bose balishima.Imaginez-vous kuba abanyamahanga bumva ubuhamya bakabushima bavuga ko bahigiye byinshi aliko wabuha bene wanyu na potentialites nyinshi yo kuba babwumva vuba aliko bakanangira.Mpita mbona ko bafite indi agenda.Nkubwize ukuli jyewe nanavuze ko nta genocide yabaye ikozwe n'uruhande rwa Leta kandi ko uruhare mu byabaye mu Rwanda ali FPR igomba kubiryozwa. 


Ni aha mpera nguhakanira ko ces hors-la loi wasangaga buzuyemo abakombozi,inkuba,abasederi,interahamwe kw'izina  ..etc ntawabayoboraga wundi utali Kagame/FPR.Hali abo jyewe niboneye aho tugereye za Gitarama babaga soit bambaye imyenda ya gisilikare, soit imyenda y'interahamwe kandi bali bazwi gukomera mu mbyiruko z'andi mashyaka.Nk'uwitwa John wali mu balindaga aba VIP ba MDR wagombye kuba umuzi.Abo ni nabo babaga bakazi kimwe n'ababaga baroherejwe na FPR.Ku byerekeranye n'intwaro z'imbunda ,nibyo koko hali ababaga bazifite.Nta gitangaza mu gihugu kilimo intambara,kubona imbunda ni nk'ubufindo.Muvuga  abali bafite intwaro ntimuvuge abatutsi.Hali uw'inshuti wamfashe nk'indangare kuba ntali mfite imbunda.ambwira ko we afite ebyili into n'inini.Baliya  ba paysans  uko twese twabibonye bishoye mu bikorwa ntawubatumye kandi kugirango bazamenyekane bose bahanwe ni impossible.C'etait une sorte de mafia,une sorte de categorie sociale nebuleuse qu'a su exploiter le mieux organise de deux combatants a savoir le FPR. Kandi niyo baboneka intention yo kulimbura ku banyarwanda bazi u Rwanda na za muyaga zagiye ziba nta intention yo gutsembatsemba iba ihali biza nk'umuyaga nyine bikagenda nkawo .Muyaga yo muli 94 yaje ifite umwihaliko kubera le FPR qui tirait les ficelles.Le FPR yatsinze abasilikare agguerris ba FAR ntiyali kunanirwa guhagarika abasivile barwanishaga imipanga n'ubuhili.Aha nawe uhibaze,bali muli Kigali aho bahise bafata positions strategiques zose.Bababuze iki ngo batabare abo bitwaga ko  barwaniliraga?No mu cyaro bali bahafite administration parallele puissante.Ni absurde kuba igihugu cyali cyarafashwe gutyo abantu bagakomeza gushakira amakosa ubutegetsi n'abaturage bacyo bali baraboshye amaboko n'amaguru nta kwitabara gushoboka.

Nakwanzura ngusaba kwibohora ugakoresha esprit critique yawe n'urukundo rw'abanyarwanda bose badakwiye umurage mubi wo kugereranywa n'abo batandukanye cyane.Nta ba juifs bali mu Rwanda;nta cyagereranywa na parti Nazi,cg regime Nazi;nta camps de concentrations cg chambres a gaz;nta SS,SD,Gestapo..etc;nta baganga,abacamanza,les industriels qui prirent part au pillage...bose bubahiliza la politique du Reich.Kwihandagaza ukimena umutwe ubaza ibibazo bigamije kwerekana parallelisme mu bwicanyi bwabaye mu Rwanda n'ubwakorewe les juifs bo muli Allemagne na Territoires occupes , nsanga ali kuba umukozi wa FPR.Ahubwo ibili amambu parallelisme wayibona hagati y'amarorerwa ya FPR n'aba Nazi.Urugero ni vision fprienne diabolisante du hutu ou de tout opposant a  son mouvement yita interahamwe akaba yaramwangishije kw'isi yose ku buryokumufunga,kumuhagalikira ubuhungiro,kumwica ali ugutabara isi.Ibikorwa bibi bya  FPR ntibibazwa  kubera kuba yaratsinze intambara ikaba ali yo yandika amateka y'igihugu.Abashakashatsi bahakana iyo version imposee par le vainqueur nta mafranga cg leta yabo bakorera ni ukwanga gusa ko ukuli guhonyorwa.Tubafasha iki?Turabarwanya ahubwo twigumanira za doutes ku bintu trivial.
Nshyigikiye ubushake bwo gutumiza abanyarwanda bagasasa inzobe.Ahubwo se muvandimwe watekereje kw'ishyaka FDU wavunikiye igihe kitali gito, ukaba a humble democrat ukegera bagenzi bawe bahagaraliwe na Bukeye  mukongera mugahuliza abayoboke hamwe inyuma ya Ingabire ukareba ukuntu ibintu byihuta guhinduka mu Rwanda no mu karere k'ibiyaga  bigali. Ziliya ngorwa zo mw'ishyamba wakomojeho ndagirango nkubwire n'agahinda kenshi ko mufite responsabilite politique et morale nibura.Bali barabaye aba resistants none umwera wanyu w'amacakubili ubagezemo.Birababaje!!!

Ugire amahoro y'Imana.


Thomas.

















De : Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch>
À : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr>; "<collec...@googlegroups.com>" <collec...@googlegroups.com>; AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr
Envoyé le : Mardi 21 juin 2016 17h24

Umunsi

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Jun 28, 2016, 7:45:55 AM6/28/16
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Iyi nyandiko ni yo yuzuye, soma iyi
Muvandimwe Rushemeza,

Wisya wanzitse uvuga gusa uruhare rukomeye FPR/APR/DMI yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu Rwanda, wowe wita itsembabwoko nyarwanda, uruhare rwose yanagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo. Sya unanditse uvuga uruhare ingoma ya Habyarimana yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Interahamwe n'Impuzamugambi zari zifite gitegeka urabizi, ari muri MRND, ari muri CDR. Aba GP n'indi mitwe y'ingabo mike izwi nabo bari bafite abazikuriye, batari muri Etat major, bakoreraga hanze yayo nabo bazwi. Ibyo kubashakira impamvu ngo habuze amasasu n'ibindi, kandi uzi amarorerwa yakozwe, bireke rwose. Nkuko nakubwiye nta rubanza dufite gucira bamwe mu bambari bagishyigikiye iyo ngoma yakoze amarorerwa, si yo nshingano yacu. Ni ubucamanza. Gusa, kubera ko inzira ya politiki ihamye yaka abataramennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, kandi badashyigikiye abayamennye, ndabasaba abo, ko bemera tugahura, tugasesengura ibibazo na nubu bikidutanya, tukavugana ibyatubayeho, uruhare twagize, umuti tubona, tukanzura, abawuvuguta bakawuvuguta, abawunywa bakawunywa, tugashyira imbere abazaba batubereye urumuri mu nzira yo kubohora u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda. Gukomeza guha urubuga rwa politiki bene abo, bizakomeza kutuzinga. Atura witinya. Kabeho. Nkiko Nsengimana

Francois Munyabagisha

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"abataramennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, kandi badashyigikiye abayamennye, ndabasaba abo, ko bemera tugahura, tugasesengura ibibazo na nubu bikidutanya, tukavugana ibyatubayeho, uruhare twagize, umuti tubona, tukanzura, abawuvuguta bakawuvuguta, abawunywa bakawunywa, tugashyira imbere abazaba batubereye urumuri", Nkiko N. (umunsi@)

Iyi ngingo iranyuze, irimo umusingi w'amahindura n'imhindura. Gusa tuzirikane ko kumena amaraso biba m'umwijima bikanaterwa n'uburumbe bw'ubwenge. Abayamennye rero nabo sibo, habuze abatanga urumuli. Ese tulimo abaremarumuli n'abatwararumuli? Nta gushidikanya, tubalimo. Imhamagaza ya Nkiko njye numva alibo icira amarenga. Ngo abwirwa benshi akumvwa na beneyo. Abumva  hali contribution twatanga mu ugusesengura indwara, kuzivugutira umuti ndetse noo kuwunywesha abarwayi nta kwiyibagirwa, navuga ko dutumiwe kwa Nkiko. Niba nabyumvise ukundi bitali we nyine yankosora.
Ku giti cyanjye nitabye karame.
 
Mugire Imhagalike n'Ubugingo (Ayez la droiture et une saine santé) !

 
Francois M. (1-819-461-0353)
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Umunsi

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Muvandimwe Rushemeza nongeye kukuramutsa.

Ndagushima. Ariko se ibi bibazo uvuga na njye mvuga, kuko nyine tutabivugaho
kimwe, abiyemeje bose kujya kw'isonga ya politiki yo kubohora u Rwanda, baba "interahamwe cyangwa abagambanyi", nitutabiganiraho, ubona bizagenda bite?
Abantu bazishyira hamwe bate kandi batinya gucocera hamwe ibibazo by'ingutu
byatumye turi i Shyanga ubu? Byaturutse he ngo mu mpera za 1991, abantu uvuga
banywaga amata baterekewe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana, ngo bayivane mu kanwa?


Ni ubucucu gusa, cyangwa hari ibibazo bitakemuwe? Urumva koko hatari ipfundo rikomeye? Mvuze 1991 kuko mbere y'aho, FPR itera muri 1990, nta muntu n'umwe nzi, uretse Bizimungu na Kajeguhakwa n'abandi bake b'inshuti zabo bonse 
ingoma bashatse kubakurikira, ntawe nzi wundi, utari umutoni, wari mu Rwanda winjiye ku mugaragaro muri FPR. Icyo gihe muri 1990, ni nde uzi wambwira 
warwanyije ingabo? Icyo nzi cyo ni ubutegetsi bwahutse mu bantu, burabafunga
nta kimenyetso cy'ubugambanyi kuri bo, uretse kuzira ubwoko cyangwa aho bakomoka.
Anketi yakozwe n'imiryango nyarwanda y'uburenganziramuntu yasanze 30% 
bari abatutsi, abandi 70%
bari abahutu b'abanyenduga. Byaragaragaye ko ari abere kuko bose baje gufungurwa, kandi nta mashyaka yakabayeho icyo gihe? Ahubwo habaye iki kugira ngo 
abatoni b'ingoma ya Habyarimana basange FPR? Habaye iki kugira ngo aho bashatse
abagambanyi mu batoni, babashakire ahubwo ahandi, bitwaje ubwoko cyangwa
akarere ? Ako kazi ka bamaneko b'ingoma batari ba maneko b'igihugu ukabona ute
wowe?
Mbese ubundi koko kuki ubutegetsi butaretse cyera na kare ngo impunzi zitahe?


Irondakoko, irondakarere, ivangura, ibyo ni ibibazo bimwe tudakwiye kwirengagiza bikwiye gucocwa kuko bidutanya kugeza ubu. Hari n'ibindi by'ingutu bireba
imitegekere y'igihugu mbere ya 1990 bikwiye gusangirwa. Na mbere ya 1959
cyangwa nyuma yaho.

Nyuma haza rurangiza y'itsembabwoko y'abatutsi bari mu gihugu. FPR/APR ifitemo
uruhare yego, ariko n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Simvuze ukwica abari abanyapolitiki barwanyaga ubutegetsi badakoresheje imbunda. Simvuze abantu bose APR
/DMI yivuganye kuva za Byumba.

Inzira yoroshye yego birumvikana ni uguca hejuru y'ibibazo bikomeye, ugakoresha disikuru ya "dushyire hamwe ingufu kuko turi twese victimes y'ingoma ya
FPR". Urumva ibyo bihagije koko? Urumva bihwitse?

Abajya hamwe ni abemera gusesengura ibibazo, bakamenya ahabatanya n'aho bahuriye, nyuma, kuko bavuguse umuti bakawunywa, bagahana imbabazi, bagaca inzigo, bakabona noneho bakagenera hamwe indoto n'intekerezo bagiye kurwanirira hamwe. Ibindi ni findi findi ntuzambeshye. N'izo ngabo za FDLR cyangwa izindi
zose zaba zitegurwa, uzishyire hasi, nta kibazo zakemuye kugeza ubu, nta n'ikindi zizakemura. Twanze gutera iyo ntambwe yo guhura ngo tuvuge ibibazo kandi tubibonere ibisubizo by'igihe kije, twumvikane kubo tubona gatujys imbere, twemere ko tubeshya abanyarwanda, ko duhamye i Shyanga imyaka n'imyaka. Ibindi amashyaka arimo ngo ashyize hamwe mu mpuzamashyaka, ni ugufitira kuko guhuza umwanzi, ntibihagije, ntibizabuza kurasana igihe cyose tuzaba dukomeje
kwimika inzigo.

Ibi nkubwiye birareba amashyaka yose aho ava akagera. None ndagutumye muvandimwe Rushemeza, ubimbwirire abanyamashyaka wisangaho, maze uzansubize niba bemera ko dusasa inzobe. Nanjye ni uko nzagusubiza, niba ubyemeye.

Kabeho
Nkiko Nsengimana

> Le 29 juin 2016 =C3=A0 21:26, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a =C3=
=A9crit :
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> Mwihangane nongeye kohereza iyi message nkeka ko itatambutse .Computer yan=
jye ishobora kuba ifite ibibazo.
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> De : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr>
> =C3=80 : Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch>=20
> Cc : "<collec...@googlegroups.com>" <collec...@googlegroups.com>; "=
AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr" <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr>
> Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mercredi 29 juin 2016 0h06
> Objet : Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jeffer=
son Public Radio
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> Komera Bwana Nkiko we.
>=20
> Maze iminsi mfite impungenge ko my comment itatambutse none ni byiza ubwo t=
wakomeza.Cependant une importante remarque s'impose avant de continuer!!Bwan=
a Nkiko nkuzi kuva mbere ya 94,nibura kw'izina,kw'isura no mu kazi twakorey=
e igihugu cyacu.Nongeye kukumva mu mashyaka aho tugereye mu buhungiro.Icyo g=
ihe cyose kirekire ntitwigeze tubona umwanya mwiza nk'uyu wo guhana ibiteker=
ezo ku byaranze amateka y'igihugu cyacu cyane cyane kuva muli 1990.Ubu tugiz=
e aya mahirwe ntibyaba byiza tuyapfushije ubusa dukoresha imvugo ikunze kura=
nga abanyarwanda ngo "Garukira bugufi Semuzima"(=3D ntiwivemo uvuga akali im=
urore,utiteranya cyangwa ukikoraho).Uyu muco w'ubucakara niwo utuma abanyarw=
anda batabwizanya ukuli,bagahitamo gutinya,guca amarenga ,kubeshya,no kutige=
ra bilinda ibibazo bigiye kubagwilira cyangwa ngo babashe kubikemura iyo bya=
bagwililiye.Mu by'ukuli bahora biteganyiliza ibibazo.
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> Dore nk'iyi mvugo yawe nyizi kuva intambara ya 90 igitangira,yaje gukara a=
mashyaka menshi atangiye.Ivangili yigishijwe ikayobokwa cyane yabaye iyo kur=
wanya bec et ongles regime ya Habyarimana.Ngo yahejeje impunzi hanze nkaho a=
liyo zahunze;ngo ni regime yica igafungira abantu ubusa cyane cyane abo bise=
ibyitso..etcIndilimbo yali "Navaho impundu zizavuga".Bityo kuva icyo gihe n=
ta kiza cyigeze kiva kwa Habyarimana n'ingoma ye yitwaga "Akazu".N'aho afung=
uliye urubuga rwa politiki yagumye kwitwa umunyagitugu ubuza abashyaka kubah=
o.Mu gihe cy'imishyikirano yaremeye atanga ibya mirenge aliko ntibyemerwa ku=
ko ataratanze ubutegetsi bwose.Ishyaka rye MRND ryali a bunch of criminals b=
aje kwibaruka imitwe y'iterabwoba aliyo CDR n'Interahamwe.Ibyo byigishwaga m=
uli za meetings,nyuma y'ubwicanyi buteye isoni bwa FPR aliko ntibwigere bwam=
aganwa muli izo za meetings,mu binyamakuru binyuranye nka Isibo,Kagura ...na=
Radio Muhabura.Abanyamahanga bigishijwe iyo vajili nabo barayoboka.Ibi byor=
ohereje le chef d'orchestre Kagame gutegura amarorerwa no kuyashyira mu biko=
rwa.Byasojwe byose n'urupfu rwa Habyarimana,Ntaryamira n'ibyegera byabo bya=
fafi na genocide Nyarwanda nita ntyo kuko yapfiliyemo abanyarwanda b'amoko y=
ose uko ali atatu.Ababishe nakubiye muli comment yanjye y'ubushize, aliko bi=
ragaragara ko utanyuzwe.
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> Igituma utanyurwa nacyo kiragaragara.Urashaka ko nsubiramo nka gasuku imvu=
go yacuzwe na Oppostion yavukiye mu Rwanda mu bihe by'intambara ifatanyije n=
'umwishi w'abanyarwanda FPR.Sinkunda gucira abandi urubanza kuko ntali uruki=
ko.Aliko ku bantu mbona bakomeje politiki yo guteranya les victimes du FPR b=
ashingira ku birego bishaje kandi by'ibinyoma ubu nta kundi nabafata uretse=
kubita izina mbona libakwiye ry'Abagambanyi b'abanyarwanda bifatanije n'umw=
anzi wishe benshi muli bo ,abandi akabafungira ubusa, abandi akaba abahejeje=
ishyanga, abagerekaho ibyaha batakoze kugirango yibere umwere imbere y'amah=
anga kandi akomeze yihalire ibyiza by'igihugu.Franchement wowe Nkiko ubu icy=
o utegereje kw'ikulikiranwa ry'ingoma ya Habyarimana mu butabera n'iki?Habya=
rimana yarahotowe,uwamuhotoye uramuzi aliko ntaho wigera umutunga urutoki k=
uko wanga possiblement kwisibira amayira yo kuba mwazasangira ubutegetsi.Ntu=
nkangishe bya birego mwohereza muli za Nations Unies mugahita mutanga nibibi=
kuba na zero biba bisanga n'izindi rapports zibivuguruza muba mwarazisasiye n=
k'ibyo mwajyaga musabisha imyanya muli politiki ngo muli les moderes,muli ab=
ere,ababi ni baliya.Abambali ba Habyarimana muvuga barahizwe,bamwe banicirw=
a mu mahanga, ntavuze abamaliwe kw'icumu mu Rwanda,abandi bashyikilijwe inki=
ko z'amahanga naza Gacaca.Abenshi barafunze.Ubu abandi ushaka ni bande?Abo b=
antu bamennye amaraso n'ababashyigikiye ushaka guheza muli politiki ubavana h=
ehe?
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> Reka rero jyewe Rushemeza ngufashe kumena ikibyimba no kukuvugutira umuti.=
Kagame yazanye amarere ngo azanye demukarasi,ngirango mwanyuzwe na democrati=
e minoritaire;ubu ikibazo cy'impuzi cyararangiye abali inyuma y'igihugu ni k=
'ubushake bwabo;umutungo w'igihugu usaranganijwe neza kandi ubukungu bugera k=
uli bose bwaliyongereye,nta nzara,nta bushomeli,abanyarwanda babanye neza,..=
.Iyi ni politiki abamwakiliye nk'umukiza igihe yateraga u Rwanda ,bakamushyi=
gikira kugeza afashe igihugu batazitandukanya nayo n'akangaratete u Rwanda r=
ulimo ubu ngubu.Ni abafatanya cyaha.Iyi niyo mpamvu bagishakisha ba bouc em=
issaire.Bibaye mahire kuli bo izina Habyarimana n'abatamwita umwanzi w'u Rwa=
nda byakwibagirana burundu.Umuti mugomba kunywa ni uko ibi bitazashoboka.Uku=
li kuzatsinda abanyabyaha nyabo n'abafatanya cyana babo bashyirwe ku Karuban=
da maze u rwanda rugaruke mu mahoro n'ubumwe byo nkingi ya demukarasi nyayo.=
Nta mahoro ashobora gutekerezwa,nta na politiki ishobora gukorwa mu gihe ha=
li bamwe bagihatira abandi kwemera ibyaha batakoze.Uyu ni wa muze w'ubuswa m=
uli politiki wo gushaka inzira yoroshye yo kugera ku butegetsi ukoresheje am=
ayeli n'ubujura mu mwanya w'amapiganwa.None se koko byabaye he ko igihugu gi=
terwa kikaba ali cyo gihindurwa igi terroriste?Muzasobanura byinshi cyangwa m=
ugume mubikwepe.
>=20
> Ndarangiza ngusubiliramo ko,abishe abanyarwanda balimo n'abatutsi nkoreshe=
je ijambo ukunda n'abahutu wita impunzi zo muli Kongo, ali ababa bakulikira =
nku'uko mushakashatsi Scott Strauss abidutangaliza:
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> " Now newly uncovered evidence suggests another motivator =E2=80=93 fear o=
f Tutsi civilians =E2=80=93 was also justified.
> Several confidential documents from the UN=E2=80=99s International Crimina=
l Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) provide chilling evidence that Tutsi civilians w=
orked hand-in-hand with Paul Kagame=E2=80=99s Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) t=
o commit crimes against Hutus in 1994. The evidence from these documents is b=
olstered by lengthy interviews with individuals who witnessed these operatio=
ns.The ICTR documents refer to RPF=E2=80=99s abakada or civilian cadres and t=
he =E2=80=98loyal population=E2=80=99 assisting the RPF in committing massiv=
e human rights abuses across the country. Abakada were Tutsi technocrats rec=
ruited before, during and after the genocide. They became the interface betw=
een the RPF on the one hand, and UN agencies, NGOs, human rights investigato=
rs and journalists on the other. The cadres played a crucial role in Rwanda=E2=
=80=99s statecraft and propaganda system after the genocide.The crimes cited=
in UN documents included identifying prominent Hutus that would later be ex=
ecuted, locating and putting Hutus in dungeons, delivering Hutus over to RPF=
intelligence agents and digging mass graves to bury victims. The ICTR docum=
ents=E2=80=94which contain identifying information and cannot be made public=
=E2=80=94consist of testimony from former RPF members who broke with the reg=
ime.In his book The Order of Genocide, Scott Straus explores the profile of t=
he genocide perpetrator. After conducting extensive research in Rwandan pris=
ons, Straus posits that most of the murders of Tutsis were carried out by a s=
mall group of =E2=80=98extremely zealous killers, paramilitaries and soldier=
s.=E2=80=99 About a quarter of the murders were committed by ordinary Hutus,=
he says, estimating that seven to eight percent of the Hutu adult populatio=
n, or 14 to 17 percent of adult Hutu males, actively killed Tutsis or Hutus o=
pposed to the violence.
> Yet there are eerie parallels between how the violence played out in Hutu g=
overnment-controlled and in Tutsi RPF-controlled zones, and how Rwandans fro=
m both ethnic groups seemed ready to betray one another as soon as their pre=
sident, Juvenal Habyarimana, a Hutu, was assassinated on April 6. Ultimatel=
y, with its top-down command structure and superior political organization, t=
he RPF was better able to conceal its crimes and control the narrative.
> Mu by'ukuli urabona ko habaye effort yo gukulikirana cyane uruhande rumwe ,=
urusa n'uko alirwo rwakoze amarorerwa menshi rukirengagizwa nkana abantu bak=
omeza kulindagiza abanyarwanda gusa.Igikunda kwitabwaho uko bimaze kugaragar=
a n'ugutangatanga igisigisigi cya regime ya Habyarimana.Ngaho kubakira amash=
yaka kuli New generation en oppostion a old,sous entendu old regime,aha ndah=
amya ko regime ya Kagame idafatwa nka old.Andi mashyaka yiyise ay'aba modere=
s opposes des extremistes bo muli CDR na MRND.Andi yavutse yitandukanyije n'=
ayo bita ko yavukiye mu nkambi.Andi n'aya aba Victimes ba systeme MRND...etc=
. Aya mashyaka yose aha akato ayo akeka ,souvent a tort ,ko ali pro-regime H=
abyarimana uyasanga muli complots zo gusenya ingaga zakagombye kuba amizer=
o y'abanyarwanda.Urugero rubabaje ni akaga FDLR ilimo muli iyi minsi.Ibi ni a=
gahomamunwa ntacyo nabivugaho kuli uru rubuga rw'abandi.No kuba naratanze um=
uganda nk'uyu nabyo sinizeye ko ntawe byabangamiye.Baramutse baliho nabasaba=
imbabazi mbikuye ku mutima.Kuli Nkiko tumaze iminsi tuganira nawe ndamushim=
ira cyane. Kuli jyewe urugi rurakinguye rwose dushobora gukomeza kungurana i=
bitekerezo ugerageza kuva mu mvugo laconique et accusatoire seulement uzi ne=
za ko utali juge.Nta mpamvu nimwe yatuma utajya mu biganiro n'uwaba afite am=
araso ku ntoki igihe ataracirwa urubanza bavuga ko aba ali umwere.Nsinzi nib=
a ushobora no kwihandagaza ukavuga ko utazajya mu biganiro Kagame azaba alim=
o ugize Imana akakwemerera.Keretse uvuze ko amaraso yamennye yali amashyira.=
Ngirango iyo ni imvugo ya Kagame,abe, n'abazungu bemeza ko umuhutu atava ama=
raso.
> Gira amahoro y'Imana.
> Thomas.
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>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> De : Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch>
> =C3=80 : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr>=20
> Cc : "<collec...@googlegroups.com>" <collec...@googlegroups.com>; "=
AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr" <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr>
> Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mardi 28 juin 2016 7h45
> Objet : Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jeffer=
son Public Radio
>=20
>=20
>=20


> Iyi nyandiko ni yo yuzuye, soma iyi

>=20
> Muvandimwe Rushemeza,
>=20
> Wisya wanzitse uvuga gusa uruhare rukomeye FPR/APR/DMI yagize mw'itsembabw=
oko ry'abatutsi bari mu Rwanda, wowe wita itsembabwoko nyarwanda, uruhare rw=
ose yanagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo. Sya unanditse u=
vuga uruhare ingoma ya Habyarimana yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Inter=
ahamwe n'Impuzamugambi zari zifite gitegeka urabizi, ari muri MRND, ari muri=
CDR. Aba GP n'indi mitwe y'ingabo mike izwi nabo bari bafite abazikuriye, b=
atari muri Etat major, bakoreraga hanze yayo nabo bazwi. Ibyo kubashakira im=
pamvu ngo habuze amasasu n'ibindi, kandi uzi amarorerwa yakozwe, bireke rwos=
e. Nkuko nakubwiye nta rubanza dufite gucira bamwe mu bambari bagishyigikiye=
iyo ngoma yakoze amarorerwa, si yo nshingano yacu. Ni ubucamanza. Gusa, kub=
era ko inzira ya politiki ihamye yaka abataramennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, k=
andi badashyigikiye abayamennye, ndabasaba abo, ko bemera tugahura, tugasese=
ngura ibibazo na nubu bikidutanya, tukavugana ibyatubayeho, uruhare twagize,=
umuti tubona, tukanzura, abawuvuguta bakawuvuguta, abawunywa bakawunywa, tu=
gashyira imbere abazaba batubereye urumuri mu nzira yo kubohora u Rwanda n'a=
banyarwanda. Gukomeza guha urubuga rwa politiki bene abo, bizakomeza kutuzin=


ga. Atura witinya. Kabeho. Nkiko Nsengimana

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>>> Le 23 juin 2016 =C3=A0 22:31, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a =C3=
=A9crit :
>>>=20
>=20
>=20
> De : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr>
> =C3=80 : Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch>; "<collec...@googlegroups.com>" <c=
ollect...@googlegroups.com>; "AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr" <AVM_Populi@yah=
oogroupes.fr>=20
> Envoy=C3=A9 le : Jeudi 23 juin 2016 16h10
> Objet : Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jeffer=
son Public Radio
>=20


> Komera cyane Muvandimwe kandi Nshuti Nkiko

>=20
> Ndabanza gushima byimazeyo intera igaragara mu kugira aho duhulira.Ndizera=
ko mu gihe kitarambiranye imigozi ituboshye niba ihali izatulika tugahobera=
na kandi bikaba byafasha n'abandi bashobora kuba baboshye.Iyi ntera mvuga ir=
agaragalira mubyo tumaze kwemeranyaho bitagaragaraga neza ko tubihuje tugita=
ngira.Icya mbere n'ukwemeranya ku nyito y'ubwicanyi bwabaye mu Rwanda aliyo g=
enocide nyarwanda.Icyakabili ni uruhare rukomeye cyane FPR/Kagame bagize mu=
bwicanyi bwose, ubw'abahutu n'ubw' abatutsi hafi mu gihugu hose no hanze ya=
cyo.Jyewe, nkulikije ibyo abashakashatsi bakwiye ikizere kubera acces facile=
bagize kuli informations bavanaga ahantu hizewe, naguhaye ikigereranyo cya 9=
0% y'abanyarwanda bishwe na FPR ibaziza icyo bali cyo mu nyungu za politiki a=
liyo yo kwitwaza genocide ngo babone embargo contre les FAR bityo bifatire u=
butegetsi bitabagoye.Icya gatatu ni uko nta planification yabaye ku ruhande r=
wa Leta y'u Rwanda.Gusa kuba wemeza ko panification atali condition sine qua=
non kugirango ubwicanyi bwitwe genocide,mbanje kureba definition y'iryo jam=
bo riduhora mu kanwa.Nsanze izi extraits zikulikira zadufasha gutekereza kur=
utaho bitali icyuka nka kimwe kiranga ba rusisibiranya bo muli FPR na ya opp=


osition ya ba Rwanda rw'ejo.

> "Le g=C3=A9nocide, crime de droit international
>=20
> Le g=C3=A9nocide entendu comme acte criminel entra=C3=AEnant la responsabi=
lit=C3=A9 internationale du coupable a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 d=C3=A9fini pour la pre=
mi=C3=A8re fois dans la Convention pour la pr=C3=A9vention et la r=C3=A9pres=
sion du crime de g=C3=A9nocide, sign=C3=A9e =C3=A0 Gen=C3=A8ve en 1948. Cett=
e d=C3=A9finition, reprise dans les statuts des tribunaux internationaux p=C3=
=A9naux ad hoc =C3=A9tablis par le Conseil de s=C3=A9curit=C3=A9 de l=E2=80=99=
ONU et int=C3=A9gr=C3=A9e =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99article 6 du Statut de Rome insti=
tuant la Cour p=C3=A9nale internationale, se lit comme suit :
> =20
> =C2=AB (...) le [crime de] g=C3=A9nocide s=E2=80=99entend de l=E2=80=99un q=
uelconque des actes ci-apr=C3=A8s, commis dans l=E2=80=99intention de d=C3=A9=
truire, ou tout ou en partie, un groupe national, ethnique, racial ou religi=
eux, comme tel : a) Meurtre de membres du groupe ; b) Atteinte grave =C3=A0 l=
=E2=80=99int=C3=A9grit=C3=A9 physique ou mentale de membres du groupe ; c) S=
oumission intentionnelle du groupe =C3=A0 des conditions d=E2=80=99existence=
devant entra=C3=AEner sa destruction physique totale ou partielle ; d) Mesu=
res visant =C3=A0 entraver les naissances au sein du groupe ; e) Transfert f=
orc=C3=A9 d=E2=80=99enfants du groupe =C3=A0 un autre groupe.=C2=BB
>=20
> =20
> =C2=AB dans l=E2=80=99intention de d=C3=A9truire (...) un groupe (...) com=
me tel =C2=BB
>=20
> L=E2=80=99acte commis doit en outre l=E2=80=99=C3=AAtre dans l=E2=80=99int=
ention explicite de d=C3=A9truire le groupe, et con=C3=A7u pour favoriser la=
r=C3=A9alisation de cet objectif. Le g=C3=A9nocide est dirig=C3=A9 contre l=
e groupe en tant qu=E2=80=99entit=C3=A9 : les actions qu=E2=80=99il entra=C3=
=AEne sont men=C3=A9es contre des individus, non en raison de leurs qualit=C3=
=A9s individuelles, mais uniquement parce qu=E2=80=99ils sont membres du gro=
upe vis=C3=A9. Ainsi, la victime ultime du crime n=E2=80=99est pas l=E2=80=99=
individu, mais le groupe. Ce dernier est par ailleurs le plus souvent d=C3=A9=
fini et circonscrit par les agresseurs, sans qu=E2=80=99il soit n=C3=A9cessa=
ire de manifester de sentiment d=E2=80=99appartenance ou m=C3=AAme de choisi=


r (ou de nier) son rattachement.

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> Il n=E2=80=99y a pas de seuil quantitatif de victimes : ainsi, il est conc=
evable que le meurtre d=E2=80=99une seule personne puisse donner lieu =C3=A0=
une accusation de g=C3=A9nocide, si l=E2=80=99on peut prouver l=E2=80=99int=
ention requise associ=C3=A9e =C3=A0 sa commission ; inversement, un massacre=
de masse peut =C3=A9chapper =C3=A0 la qualification de g=C3=A9nocide si cet=
te intention est absente ou ne peut =C3=AAtre prouv=C3=A9e. Ceci peut cr=C3=A9=
er des probl=C3=A8mes de compr=C3=A9hension, notamment au sein du grand publ=
ic.
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> Du point de vue juridique, la g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ralisation du terme =C3=A0 to=
ute instance de massacre de masse est abusive, en ce qu=E2=80=99elle fait fi=
des crit=C3=A8res sp=C3=A9cifiques qui permettent justement d=E2=80=99=C3=A9=
tablir la distinction entre le g=C3=A9nocide et d=E2=80=99autres atrocit=C3=A9=
s, parfois m=C3=AAme plus meurtri=C3=A8res et tout aussi choquantes, m=C3=AA=
me si l=E2=80=99on pourra pourtant appliquer =C3=A0 ces derni=C3=A8res la fi=
gure plus g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale du crime contre l=E2=80=99humanit=C3=A9. Un exe=
mple de cette articulation parfois malais=C3=A9e entre des comportements hor=
rifiants et la qualification de g=C3=A9nocide est la tristement c=C3=A9l=C3=A8=
bre pratique du =C2=AB nettoyage ethnique =C2=BB, laquelle peut ou non, selo=
n le cas, constituer un acte de g=C3=A9nocide, selon qu=E2=80=99il est possi=
ble d=E2=80=99=C3=A9tablir l=E2=80=99intention de d=C3=A9truire le groupe et=
non =C2=AB simplement =C2=BB celle de l=E2=80=99expulser.
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> Au del=C3=A0 de la typologie, ou du d=C3=A9bat sur la banalisation du conc=
ept, ce probl=C3=A8me d=E2=80=99=C3=A9tiquetage r=C3=A9v=C3=A8le =C3=A0 quel=
point le terme a acquis une charge =C3=A9motive particuli=C3=A8re aux yeux d=
u public. La controverse entourant le Rapport de la Commission International=
e d=E2=80=99Enqu=C3=AAte sur le Darfour (ONU) en 2004 d=C3=A9montre =C3=A9ga=
lement cet aspect plus dramatique du d=C3=A9bat. Ainsi, d=E2=80=99aucuns se s=
ont dits outr=C3=A9s de voir que la Commission d=E2=80=99enqu=C3=AAte n=E2=80=
=99a pas jug=C3=A9 d=C3=A9tenir de preuves suffisantes pour soutenir une d=C3=
=A9nonciation de g=C3=A9nocide dans le rapport, et ce m=C3=AAme s=E2=80=99il=
ne fait aucun doute que les comportements observ=C3=A9s =C2=AB ont =C3=A9t=C3=
=A9 men=C3=A9s de fa=C3=A7on syst=C3=A9matique et r=C3=A9pandue et peuvent d=
onc constituer des crimes contre l=E2=80=99humanit=C3=A9 =C2=BB (la CPI ajou=
tera =C3=A9ventuellement =C3=A0 son mandat d=E2=80=99arr=C3=AAt contre le pr=
=C3=A9sident soudanais Omar El-B=C3=A9chir la charge de g=C3=A9nocide en jui=
llet 2010). Ces derniers sont, en th=C3=A9orie tout aussi graves et r=C3=A9p=
ugnants que le g=C3=A9nocide, lui-m=C3=AAme crime dirig=C3=A9 contre l=E2=80=
=99humanit=C3=A9 de ses victimes. Mais l=E2=80=99impact cathartique n=E2=80=99=
est pas le m=C3=AAme : on pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8re revendiquer la caract=C3=A9risat=
ion de g=C3=A9nocide pour mettre en =C3=A9vidence de fa=C3=A7on ind=C3=A9nia=
ble la gravit=C3=A9 extr=C3=AAme du sort subi, comme s=E2=80=99il existait u=
ne =C3=A9chelle de gradation. En ce sens, le g=C3=A9nocide semble avoir cons=
erv=C3=A9, =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99=C3=A9chelon international, son statut peu envia=
ble de =C2=AB crime des crimes =C2=BB."
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> Jean-Fran=C3=A7ois Gareau=20
> UQAM
> 15 mars 2011
>=20
> Wihangane usome entre les lignes urabona ko muli caracterisation ya genoc=
ide halimo necessairement l'intention prouvee.Birumvikana ko iyi intention p=
rouvee ikunda kugaruka ali ubundi buryo bwo kuvuga planification.Sindeba uru=
hande uhagararamo cyangwa ubogamiramo kugirango ukoreshe imvugo ya Kagame uf=
ite ibyo ahunga niwe ukunda iyo mvugo ngo abantu ntibiyishe.Utazi se ko aben=
shi ali we wabishe abandi akabicisha ni inde?.N'ubundi iby'i wacu bijya guci=
ka ijambo genocide ni FPR n'ama ONG yali yaraguze notamment Survie ya Carbo=
nare baryadukanye mu Rwanda bwa mbere."D=C3=A9but 1993, un an avant le g=C3=A9=
nocide au Rwanda, Jean Carbonare, alors Pr=C3=A9sident de Survie, avait =C3=A9=
t=C3=A9 enqu=C3=AAteur de la commission parrain=C3=A9e par la F=C3=A9d=C3=A9=
ration internationale des droits de l'homme, Africa Watch, l'UIDH (Ouagadoug=
ou) et le CIDPDD/ICHRDD (Montr=C3=A9al). Cette commission avait enqu=C3=AAt=C3=
=A9 au Rwanda, puis publi=C3=A9 un rapport d=C3=A9non=C3=A7ant les pr=C3=A9m=
isses d'un g=C3=A9nocide. Jean Carbonare intervint au journal de 20 heures a=
vec Bruno Masure pour alerter les Fran=C3=A7ais sur ce risque,(voir la 4e pa=
rtie de l'article sur les critiques formul=C3=A9es contre cette commission) s=
ur la base d'une enqu=C3=AAte sur le terrain en janvier 1993.
> Selon ses d=C3=A9tracteurs, le rapport a ete redige sur la base de t=C3=A9=
moignages qui lui auraient =C3=A9t=C3=A9 fournis directement par des proches=
de Kagame, comme Janvier Africa, qui aurait avou=C3=A9 des ann=C3=A9es plus=
tard avoir menti sur ordre du FPR".Icyo nizera kidakuka ni uko igihe nikige=
ra ababoshye barabohotse ,planification ya genocide izaboneka kwa Kagame dor=
e aho nibereye. Koko rero wongere usome definition ya genocide et ses caract=
erisations urasanga FPR yarayikoze ku buryo busukuye wagereranya n'ubwa Shoa=
h.Muvandimwe nizere ko utali mubaduteje ba rusarulira mu nduru nka bali ba J=
ean Carbonare kuko namwita mugenzi wawe mu bayobozi ba za ONG nabonye jyewe p=


ar principe ziba buli gihe ali opposes au pouvoiren place.

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> Igisigaye ni ukurebera hamwe nanone uruhare abicanyi bo ku ruhande rwa Le=
ta y'u Rwanda no gusesengura neza tukamenya abo bicanyi abo ali bo icyabiba=
teye n'icyo bali bagamije.Mbere y'uko ngira icyo mvuga kuli uru ruhare ushak=
a kwita urw'ingoma ya Habyarimana kubera ahali ko ubwicanyi buvugwa ko bwako=
zwe ni interahamwe.Reka mbanze nkwibutse ko ijambo INTERAHAMWE ali ijambo li=
gomba kwitonderwa n'abanyarwanda cyane cyane abahagaralire rubanda nk'abapol=
itisiye ejo mutazavaho mubambisha abo mwagombaga kurengera.Ili jambo lifite m=
ultiple definitions kimwe n'ijambo ligezweho Ndumunyarwanda.Iyo nawe nzi uzi=
aliko ukaba uyirengagiza ni iya FPR.Kuliyo umuhutu wese ni interahamwe.Undi=
wese bakeka ko atabashyigikiye ni interahamwe nka Mitterrand.Nkulikije ubus=
hakashatsi na observations personelles,burya amashyaka yose yagiraga imbyir=
uko zabagamo les indisciplines.Abo nibo bafashe ibikoresho byabo byo mu ngo b=
ajya kwishakira ibyo batali bafite.Byorohejwe n'umwuka wali uherutse guterwa=
n'urupfu rwa Ndadaye ,ubwicanyi burenze kwihanganirwa rw'abapolitisiye n'ab=
aciviles batali ku rugamba.Inflitration n'umugambi yali ishinzwe nayo yashyi=
zeho akayo.Bien sure la disparution inopinee du Chef de l'Etat n'abayobozi b=
akomeye b'igihugu na faiblesse y'ingirwa gouvernement yagiyeho dans des cond=
itions deplorables byahise biha rugali les malfaiteurs bali bien encadres pa=
r le FPR. yo yali bien fourni en armes,en organisation et en moyens de propa=
gande mediatique.que les FAR qui avaient ete depossedes du peu d'armes qu'il=
s avaient par la MINUAR.Mujye mushyira mu gaciro mwibaze impamvu abafransa b=
irukanwe;impamvu MINUAR yatereranye u Rwanda.Ni inde ibi byahaga inyungu?Emb=
argo sur les armes yashyiliweho les FAR yali iyo gufasha guhagalika ubwicany=
i bwakorwaga na les mafaiteurs bakoreshwaga na Kagame inyuma y'ingabo z'u Rw=
anda?=20
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> Kuvuga ngo bali bafite ababayobora bali muli gouvernement ya Habyarimana c=
'est faux.Ubundi kandi ubanza wirengagiza ko gouvernement yabanje kuba iya N=
sengiyaremye utarumvikanaga na Shebuja na gato ku buryo yali yaramwirukanye=
muli iyo Gov.Amahano!!!Le gouvernement ephemere ya Agatha nayo ntiyali gouv=
ernement yali akajagali.iyo gouvernent se yaba yarateguye ite iyo genocide?U=
shobora kuba ushaka kuvuga ko abayobozi ba MRND alibo bali bagize gouvernem=
ent ya Habyarimana.Archfaux kuko yali imaze igihe yubakiye ku mashyaka mensh=
i.Ikindi ni uko Habyarimana atali akili mu nzego za MRND.Abakatiwe na Arusha=
n'abarekuwe barahagije ngo bigaragare ko nta kintu kitwa kuyobora bya hafi c=
g bya kure byigeze bibaho.Uba se ushaka kuvuga ko Gouvernement ya Kambanda a=
li igisigara cya regime ya Habyarimana kigomba kuba cyarakomeje umugambi?Iby=
awe ntibyumvikana wagirango uracyakora politiki nk'imwe yakozwe mu gihe cy'i=
ntambara yali igamije kwambura ubutegetsi Habyarimana hatazwi uzabufata.Guhu=
zagulika no kugambanira igihugu buhumyi!!!.N'ibyo bibazo bindi mufite muzabi=
shyire ahagaragara tubicoce aliko mfite ubwoba ko nta bushake bwo gukemura i=
bibazo kubera ubwibone,ubuswa,no kwikunda bya bamwe muli twe bituma bahitamo=
kwibera ba bangamwabo baha icyanzu FPR igasarulira mu nduru.Inama natanga n=
i uko abanyarwanda bakwicisha bugufi,bakareka speculations,bakareka gutsimba=
rara ku turere twabo no ku mashyaka na za guvernements bahoze biyumvamo,baka=
baza ibibazo ,bagasaba inama inaralinbonye z'indahemuka nka ba Enoch Ruhigi=
ra n'abandi bakiliho kandi bakumva ibisubizo,bagafata inama.Nkanjye ukubwira=
aya magambo ngerageza kugira menshi nkaho twaba twicaye tuganira,simanura i=
bintu mu kirere.Nakulikiranye ikibazo cy'intambara,icy'imishyikirano n'amas=
ezerano ya Arusha.akazi nakoraga kashoboraga gutuma ngira apercu general ku m=
ivukire no ku mikorere y'imbyiruko z'amashyaka.Ibi byatumye nkenerwa gutan=
ga temoignage muli TPIR sur Le Vrai Visage de la Crise Rwandaise:le role d=
e la guerre imposee au Rwanda par le FPR,l'ouverture politique aux partis op=
poses au pouvoir et de leurs jeunesses en temps de guerre.L'avocat de la def=
ense wali wanyifuje yali yansabye kwisanzura kuli la Jeunesse Interahamwe.Ib=
yo nabikoze n'umutima mwiza abali muli audience bose balishima.Imaginez-vou=
s kuba abanyamahanga bumva ubuhamya bakabushima bavuga ko bahigiye byinshi a=
liko wabuha bene wanyu na potentialites nyinshi yo kuba babwumva vuba aliko b=
akanangira.Mpita mbona ko bafite indi agenda.Nkubwize ukuli jyewe nanavuze k=
o nta genocide yabaye ikozwe n'uruhande rwa Leta kandi ko uruhare mu byabaye=
mu Rwanda ali FPR igomba kubiryozwa.=20
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> Ni aha mpera nguhakanira ko ces hors-la loi wasangaga buzuyemo abakombozi,=
inkuba,abasederi,interahamwe kw'izina ..etc ntawabayoboraga wundi utali Kag=
ame/FPR.Hali abo jyewe niboneye aho tugereye za Gitarama babaga soit bambaye=
imyenda ya gisilikare, soit imyenda y'interahamwe kandi bali bazwi gukomera=
mu mbyiruko z'andi mashyaka.Nk'uwitwa John wali mu balindaga aba VIP ba MDR=
wagombye kuba umuzi.Abo ni nabo babaga bakazi kimwe n'ababaga baroherejwe n=
a FPR.Ku byerekeranye n'intwaro z'imbunda ,nibyo koko hali ababaga bazifite.=
Nta gitangaza mu gihugu kilimo intambara,kubona imbunda ni nk'ubufindo.Muvug=
a abali bafite intwaro ntimuvuge abatutsi.Hali uw'inshuti wamfashe nk'indan=
gare kuba ntali mfite imbunda.ambwira ko we afite ebyili into n'inini.Baliya=
ba paysans uko twese twabibonye bishoye mu bikorwa ntawubatumye kandi kug=
irango bazamenyekane bose bahanwe ni impossible.C'etait une sorte de mafia,u=
ne sorte de categorie sociale nebuleuse qu'a su exploiter le mieux organise d=
e deux combatants a savoir le FPR. Kandi niyo baboneka intention yo kulimbur=
a ku banyarwanda bazi u Rwanda na za muyaga zagiye ziba nta intention yo gut=
sembatsemba iba ihali biza nk'umuyaga nyine bikagenda nkawo .Muyaga yo muli 9=
4 yaje ifite umwihaliko kubera le FPR qui tirait les ficelles.Le FPR yatsinz=
e abasilikare agguerris ba FAR ntiyali kunanirwa guhagarika abasivile barwan=
ishaga imipanga n'ubuhili.Aha nawe uhibaze,bali muli Kigali aho bahise bafat=
a positions strategiques zose.Bababuze iki ngo batabare abo bitwaga ko barw=
aniliraga?No mu cyaro bali bahafite administration parallele puissante.Ni ab=
surde kuba igihugu cyali cyarafashwe gutyo abantu bagakomeza gushakira amako=
sa ubutegetsi n'abaturage bacyo bali baraboshye amaboko n'amaguru nta kwitab=
ara gushoboka.
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> Nakwanzura ngusaba kwibohora ugakoresha esprit critique yawe n'urukundo rw=
'abanyarwanda bose badakwiye umurage mubi wo kugereranywa n'abo batandukanye=
cyane.Nta ba juifs bali mu Rwanda;nta cyagereranywa na parti Nazi,cg regime=
Nazi;nta camps de concentrations cg chambres a gaz;nta SS,SD,Gestapo..etc;n=
ta baganga,abacamanza,les industriels qui prirent part au pillage...bose bub=
ahiliza la politique du Reich.Kwihandagaza ukimena umutwe ubaza ibibazo biga=
mije kwerekana parallelisme mu bwicanyi bwabaye mu Rwanda n'ubwakorewe les j=
uifs bo muli Allemagne na Territoires occupes , nsanga ali kuba umukozi wa FP=
R.Ahubwo ibili amambu parallelisme wayibona hagati y'amarorerwa ya FPR n'aba=
Nazi.Urugero ni vision fprienne diabolisante du hutu ou de tout opposant a =
son mouvement yita interahamwe akaba yaramwangishije kw'isi yose ku buryoku=
mufunga,kumuhagalikira ubuhungiro,kumwica ali ugutabara isi.Ibikorwa bibi by=
a FPR ntibibazwa kubera kuba yaratsinze intambara ikaba ali yo yandika ama=
teka y'igihugu.Abashakashatsi bahakana iyo version imposee par le vainqueur n=
ta mafranga cg leta yabo bakorera ni ukwanga gusa ko ukuli guhonyorwa.Tubafa=


sha iki?Turabarwanya ahubwo twigumanira za doutes ku bintu trivial.

> Nshyigikiye ubushake bwo gutumiza abanyarwanda bagasasa inzobe.Ahubwo se m=
uvandimwe watekereje kw'ishyaka FDU wavunikiye igihe kitali gito, ukaba a hu=
mble democrat ukegera bagenzi bawe bahagaraliwe na Bukeye mukongera mugahul=
iza abayoboke hamwe inyuma ya Ingabire ukareba ukuntu ibintu byihuta guhindu=
ka mu Rwanda no mu karere k'ibiyaga bigali. Ziliya ngorwa zo mw'ishyamba wa=
komojeho ndagirango nkubwire n'agahinda kenshi ko mufite responsabilite poli=
tique et morale nibura.Bali barabaye aba resistants none umwera wanyu w'amac=
akubili ubagezemo.Birababaje!!!
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> Ugire amahoro y'Imana.
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> Thomas.
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> De : Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch>
> =C3=80 : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr>; "<collectifcres@googlegro=
ups.com>" <collec...@googlegroups.com>; AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr=20
> Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mardi 21 juin 2016 17h24
> Objet : Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jeffer=
son Public Radio
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> Muvandimwe Rushemeza,
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> Aha rero uhandike uhashinge agati ko tuhatandukaniye bikomeye.=20
>=20
> Nemera ko ubuyobozi bwa APR, kuko mu by'ukuri aribwo bwategekaga FPR, bufi=
te uruhare rukomeye mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu gihugu. Nyuma kandi u=
ko abanyabyumba bishwe urubozo, ntabwo nshidikanya na rimwe ko ari APR, nyum=
a byarakomeje igihugu cyose uretse ahari ahitwaga "Zone Turquoise", kugeza a=
ho itsembeye impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo, njye ntatinya kwita itsembabwoko r=


y'impunzi z'abahutu.
> Vuga itsembabwoko nyarwanda ariko uhite uvuga abo yahitanye.

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> Ariko se muvandi? Ko twari mu Rwanda muri 1994 twese, ni iki cyakuboshye k=
andi kikikuboshye gituma udahamya ukomeje ibyo wabonye ko n'ubutegetsi bw'in=
goma ya Habyarimana, itaraguye amaze kwicwa, bufite nabwo uruhare rukomeye m=
w'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu gihugu mbere ya 1994?=20
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> Sinemera ko itsembabwoko ryateguwe mu nzira ya planification n'iyo ngoma. N=
ta planification yabaye, ku bwanjye nanabihamije muri TPIR no mu nyandiko zi=
ndi bwite. Ariko kandi itsembabwoko ntirigomba planification ngo ryitwe itse=
mbabwoko. Interahamwe zaramanutse amanywa ava, twarazibonye. Zari zifite kan=
di gitegeka. Iyo gitegeka kandi ni abambari b'ingoma ya Habyarimana.=20
>=20
> Kuki utinya kuhagera ngo uhatoneke? Bigutwaye iki kandi byakiza byinshi? N=
ako ngo ni chaos cyangwa ni FPR yari yihishe muri izo nterahamwe! Abaziyobor=
aga se bamaze kubona ko ari infiltr=C3=A9s bakoze iki ngo bazisobanurire, ma=
ze nizanga bazirwanye? Gukekwaho ubwitso bw'inkotanyi ko bitari byanditse ku=
gahanga, babibwirwaga n'iki?
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> Iwacu ni i Gitarama cya Ndiza, nkumenyesheje ko, mbere ko abashakaga kwica=
abatutsi bakoresha imbunda, ngo hanaze abategetsi bashyigikiye ubwicanyi, a=
barwanyaga ukwica abatutsi bitwaje imihoro barushaga imbaraga abashakaga kwi=
ca abatutsi.
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> Uravuga ngo dusase inzobe, ndabyemera, nta n'igihe kubwanjye ntabihamagari=
ye. Hari n'ibindi bibazo by'ingutu byatumye ubu turi impunzi, tutanabuga rum=
we, nituticara ngo tubiganireho, dufate imyanzuro ihamye, tugangahure ibigom=
ba kugangahurwa. Ndakurahiye Imana y'i Rwanda, twicare muri general happines=
s turimo ubu, tuzirikana ariko ko tuzahera i Shyanga.=20
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> Ibibera muri Kongo ubu aho impunzi nyarwanda ziraswa n'izindi mpunzi nyarw=
anda birabikwereka. Ngo hari abanyapolitiki babatezeho amakiriro, nababwira i=
ki?
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> Ntawe uboshye ushobora kubohora undi. Turacyaboshye, turacyaboshywe n'abam=
bari bamwe b'ingoma ya Habyarimana, bihishe inyuma y'amashyaka amwe n'amwe, b=
adashaka ko dusasa iyo nzobe nyine kuko uko turiho uku bitabangamiye.=20
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> Ntawe tuzacira urubanza, ariko bemeye tukavugana ibibazo byose imbonenkubo=
ne bituma tugeze aho kurasana turi impunzi, twavanamo inzira y'ukwibohora. N=
aho ubundi, kura inkoni.
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> Kabeho.
> Nkiko Nsengimana
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>> Le 21 juin 2016 =C3=A0 07:16, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a =C3=
=A9crit :
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>> Kabeho nawe muvandi.
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>> Unyihanganire kuba ntaguhamagaye mw'izina ryawe kuko mbona utashatse ko l=
igaragara.Cyakora ndakeka no uli Bwana Nkiko .Niba ali wowe rero komera kand=
i ndagushimira ibi bibazo byiza umbajije.Kwihalira urubuga byo ndumva ntacyo=
byaba bitwaye kuko twese dusenyera ku mugozi umwe.Koko aliko byarushaho kub=
a byiza ibitekerezo bya benshi bibonetse niho umusaruro wagwira kandi ali mw=
iza.
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>> D'abord kuba wemera inyito ya genocide nyarwanda biranshimishije kuko uku=
ni ukuli bamwe mu ba nyarwanda barwanya kubera inyungu za politiki.Biranumv=
ikana kandi ko abapfuye bo mu moko yombi batiyishe.Muli iliya nyandiko yanjy=
e nagize ndende ku mpamvu zo kugerageza kuba clair bihagije , navuze ko FPR y=
ishe abaturage bo mu bwoko bw'abahutu mu turere yali yarafashe ,yica abatuts=
i b'abagogwe,yica n'abahutu benshi cyane mu turere twali mu maboko ya Leta y=
'u Rwanda nyuma yo guhanura indege y'umukuru w'igihugu.Na nyuma yaho uzi iby=


o FPR yakoze nkuko nanabisobanuye muli iliya comment yanjye.

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>> Ku rundi ruhande nasobanuye ko abaturage bamaze kubona ibibaye ntibashidi=
kanije k'uwishe President wabo.Nabo bahise batangira guhiga abali baraketswe=
ho ubwitso babanaga mu quartiers malheureusement who happened to be majorita=
irement abo mu bwoko bw'abatutsi.Aliko uzi ko n'abahutu bitaga ibyitso bishw=
e.Babazizaga kubakekaho ubugambanyi gusa na none ikibabaje n'uko bakubiranye=
mo n'abana n'abakecuru nkuko FPR/Kagame nayo yabigenzaga.Uransaba gusobanura=
neza abo bicanyi abo alibo.aha ngerageje kuba precis wakeka ko hali abo mpi=
shira ali yo mpamvu ntanga icyifuzo cy'ibiganiro byimbitse abakiliho,bagize i=
byo babona bagatanga umusanzu mu kugaragaza abishoye mu bwicanyi abenshi bab=
a bashaka gushyira ku gahanga ka Leta ya Habyarimana ni'iya Sindikubwabo.Icy=
o nahagararaho gusa ni uko Ihanurwa ry'indege ryakulikiwe na chaos.Yali inas=
anzwe mu by'ukuli igihugu cyali kitagitegekwa muli sens yo gukontrola abatur=
age no kubarengera.Ulibuka imyigaragambyo,kubohoza,kudakora akazi ka Leta n'=
ibindi.Ibi kandi uzi ko byali ingaruka z'akajagali k'amashyaka menshi 'intam=
bara yayogozaga igihugu cyose naho yali itaragera burya yali ihali ikonje.Wi=
buke nanone impuzi zirenga miliyoni zali mu mbago y'umujyi wa Kigali.Iyi Cha=
os FPR yayihinduye inka ikamwa.Iracengera yica abo ishaka ba Gapyisi,baBucya=
na,ba Gatabazi.Nyuma y'iraswa ry'indege jyewe naguhamiliza ko ali FPR yayobo=
raga ubwicanyi muli Kigali ikoresha ses infiltres.No kuli za barrieres habag=
amo abicanyi ba FPR alibo ngo babaga bakaze mu gutunga agatoki abicwa.Hali n=
'andi mayeli FPR yakoreshaga kugirango ubwicanyi bukomeze kandi bukwire hose=
.Enquete yimbitse na za temoignages zitabogamye zishobora kuzabereka ibitang=
aza niziba nyine zibashije kubaho.
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>> Ikosa likorwa n'abitwa ko bahanganye na FPR/Kagame n'ugushaka positionnem=
ent politique mu buryo bwo kwibonekeza neza imbere y'amahanga bayafasha guhu=
nga responsabilite criminelle et politique yo kuba balimitse le devil and hi=
s angels who use their pitchforks to torment the rwandan souls for eternity.=
Baliyibagiza situation chaotique igihugu cyali kimazemo iminsi yaje kunyuka u=
mukuru w'igihugu n'umukuru w'ingabo mu gihugu kilimo itambara bapfiliye limw=
e,abasilikare n'abapolisi nta ntwaro bafite,bahanganye na RPF surarme et bie=
n prepare bati Leta yaliho igomba kubazwa ibitaragenze neza.Ibyo biroroshye a=
liko nta shingiro bifite kuko na Leta yashyizweho mu ngorane zitoroshye ntac=
yo yashoboraga kugeraho kuko yali ifite umuze wo kubakirwa ku mucanga w'ashy=
aka menshi n'abaministri badafite experience ibyo byose ali l'ONU ibihambira=
nya kugirango ihe chance RPF.Izi ni facts zitsinda abashahuye u Rwanda ku bu=
ryo utababwira ngo nibakore enquete kw'ihanurwa ry'indege nibyayikulikiye ku=


ko ni aho haturuka responsability nyayo.

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>> Muli make les dignitaires du regime detruit kugira icyo ubashinja ni ukuv=
a ku muntu ukajya ku giti.Icyiza kugeza ubu ,Imana ntirenganya, byagaragaye k=
o nta responsabilite gouvernementale qui suppose la planification de ce fame=
ux genocide yabaye, a ce que je sache cfr Urukiko rwa Arusha.Tugomba gutaha t=
wemye tudatanzeho ibitambo inzirakarengane.Kagame n'amabandi yakoreshe ngo a=
bone iteme ryo gufata ubutegetsi nibo bagomba kuryozwa ishyano ryagwililiye u=
Rwanda.Ibi kugirango bishoboke nimuze dusase inzobe twebwe abali mu Rwanda i=
cyo gihe baba abahutu cyangwa abatutsi,baba abakiga cyangwa abanyanduga,n'am=
ashyaka ya politique na societe civile tuvugishe ukuli maze murebe ko butaza=
cya dutaha.
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>> Reka ndangize nsubiramo ko Umwicanyi umwe nakwita ruharwa ni FPR/Kagame a=
vec au moins 90% du forfait.Uwa kabili ni uruvangitirane rw'imbyiruko z'amas=
hyaka n'abaturage batagira isoni ba bandi kw'isi hose baprofita le chaos bak=
ishakira ibyo bajyaga bifuza ntibabashe kubibona.Rwose ntugirengo nyobewe ko=
hali aba dignitaires nka ba Bourgs bashoboraga gukulikira abaturage mu bik=
orwa bibi mu rwego rwo kwikundisha.Sinyobewe ko hali abasilikare bake cyane b=
ataye urugamba bakiha mission yo kugira abo bica.Izi cases ni exceptions si=
nzitindaho kandi abatarahanwe bazatinda bahanwe.Icyo abanyarwanda bagomba kw=
ilinda ni theory politique ya generation et culpabilisation collective yigis=
ha ko ubwicanyi bwateguwe n'inzego zinyuranye z'ubutegetsi bugashyirwa mu bi=
korwa n'abaturage nkuko Kagame n'abamwimitse babishaka kuko nibwo buryo bwon=
yine bwo kwikuraho icyaha.Mucyo twoye kuguma muli uwo mutego dushakisha kand=
i twamamaza ukuli.Niko kuzatwunga tukabasha guhangana n'umwanzi ukomezwa n'u=


ko twishe amateka yacu tugacikamo ibice.

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>> Thomas.
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>> =C3=80 : rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr>=20
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> Objet : Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jeffer=
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> Nanemeye inyito yawe ya jenoside nyarwanda, noneho se bishwe na nde ? Aha n=
tuhasobanura ngo uhatobore neza. Bariyishe se? La responsabilit=C3=A9 crimin=
elle et politique ni iyande? FPR yonyine cyangwa hari abandi batinya gutobor=
a kuvuga? Kuki bahishirwa, ubona twazabohora abanyarwanda n'u Rwanda tutabav=
uze ? Nibadahigama wumva inzira izaba iyihe? Ni iki nita kuba ingwate y'abic=
anyi. Ubutegetsi bwa FPR ni bubi ibi bidasubirwaho, ariko ntibivuga kugira a=


bere abandi bicanyi! Cyangwa se kuri wowe nta bandi bicanyi?

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> Aha hantu nitutahakanda, musase bugari, hehe no gusubira iwacu.

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> Kabeho.
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>> Le 19 juin 2016 =C3=A0 02:51, rushemeza thomas <t_rus...@yahoo.fr> a =C3=
=A9crit :
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>> Ndabaramukije Basangirangendo mwese muteraniye kuli uru rubuga rwa Youth=
Democrats.
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>> Ndamukije by'umwihaliko ba Bwana Mwiseneza E, Nkiko N.,J Nepo na Mugara E=
.kandi nshima ibitekerezo batugezaho kuli kimwe mu bibazo byinshi abanyarwan=
da batavugaho rumwe.
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>> Mbere yo kubunganira ndabanza kwisegura kuko ibibazo by'u Rwanda ubu byab=
aye inshobera banyarwanda kubera intambara y'amagambo n'ibitekerezo byaranze=
amateka y'u Rwanda biyubakiye ku kinyoma,munyangire na ntacyoduhuliyeho ite=
ra umwiryane aho abanyarwanda bahuliye hose.Iyi ntambara inagaragalira mu ma=
gambo dukoresha.Twitana amazina kugirango dupfobyane bityo twigizanyeyo:abaj=
enosideri,abacikacumu,interahamwe,anciens dignitaires,abahagalitse genocide y=
'abatutsi,abayiteguye n'abayishyize mu bikorwa,ababoshye,ababohora,ndumunyar=
wanda bivuga ko hali utali we,ingengabitekerezo,..etc urutonde ni rurerure c=
yane.Iyi ntambara irakaze kandi iyoborerwa i Kigali.Hali igihe rero nitegere=
za nkabona duhuzagulika mu byo tutazi.Urugero n'uko tumarana uwazanye ijambo=
umucikacumu yigaramiye.Ijambo rye kuli we nta mayobera kuko yalihaye conten=
u inagaragara mu buzima bwa buli munsi.Umucikacumu muli lexicologie ya FPR n=
i umututsi.Yiswe atyo,anateganyilizwa n'impozamalira y'ubwoko bwose,ibyo mur=
abizi.Kujya impaka zubaka kuli ili jambo n'andi magambo ajijisha,abanyarwand=
a batavugaho rumwe birasaba ko abanyarwanda babona ko ntaho bazagera nibakom=
eza iyi ntambara uretse kuzashira.Ni ngombwa ko habaho ibiganiro bizavanaho u=
rujijo ruterwa no kutavuga rumwe ku byatubayeho dushingiye ku kuli,ukuli kon=


yine.Iyi yali nka introduction n'ubwo ali ndende bwose.

>> Igitekerezo cyanjye kuli iyi concept y'umucikacumu w'umunyarwanda,ihuye n=
'iya abavuga ko umunyarwanda wese wali mu Rwanda kuva muli 90 ukiliho cyangw=
a witabye Imana azize urw'ikirago n'umucikacumu w' intambara ya FPR n'ubwica=
nyi bwayo bwibasiye cyane cyane abahutu n'ubwabaye aho FPR yali itaragera b=
wibasiye abatutsi n'abahutu biswe abagambanyi.Ndakoresha ijambo cyane cyane k=
uko hali n'aho FPR yishe abatutsi igamije kubyegeka kuli Leta yarwanyaga ,ur=
ugero rukunze gutangwa ni urw'abatutsi b'abagogwe.K'umuntu wali mu Rwanda ud=
ashaka kugoreka amateka mu nyungu za politiki azi ibyabereye mu turere twabe=
ragamo intambara ibyinshi biranditse.Abali batuye utwo turere bateranilijwe =
hamwe baraswa urufaya ku buryo hali n'abo Kagame yirasiye ubwe;abandi batez=
we za mines;abandi bicishwa udufuni n'utundonyi;abandi baraswa umugenda kuge=
ra mu marembo ya Kigali aho benshi batikiliye bishwe n'imibereho mibi n'indw=
ara z'ibyorezo.Abarokotse nta gushidikanya n'abacikacumu.Ni n'abacikacumu by=
a nyabyo kuko abansnhi ntibagize ayo mahirwe.Urugero ni Byumba yali yabaruwe=
mo abaturage barenga 900.000 nyuma y'intambara hakaboneka abagera kuli 150.0=
00.
>> I Kigali naho aho indege y'Umukuru w'Igihugu irasiwe,hadutse ubwicanyi b=
wakozwe n'abaturage barakajwe n'ububisha bwa FPR yagaragaje igitera igihugu m=
uli 90 kugeza aho iciye umutwe w'ubutegetsi bw'igihugu cyabo.Mu by'ukuli kwa=
li ukwitabara uko bashoboye bya gikene kuko ntibashidikanyaga ko alibo batah=
iwe.
>>=20
>> Ku rundi ruhande FPR nayo yalicaga ikoresheje les inflitres bageraga ku b=
ihumbi icumi cyangwa birenga.Uwali i Kigali ntiyashidikanya kuko umujyi wali=
warahindutse, wagirango ni amahanga.Abasikare ba RPF balimo ba kavukire b'i=
Kigali n'utundi turere baragaragara mu mujyi hatali muli CND.Wababaza icyo b=
akora bati ntimwasinye se amasezerano y'amahoro?Abandi twalitubatunze nk'aba=
boyi tutabazi.Abandi bali barakinguye ama bars alimo abatagire banywera bata=
ha abasilikare ba FPR bakaza kurara inkera.Ntumbaze icyo ba maneko bakoraga n=
tarakalira isi.Aba bose bishoye mu bwicanyi muli za quartiers zose z'umujyi w=
a Kigali.No mu cyaro ahali administration parallele ya FPR, les inflitres ba=
li bahali ibyo bakoze nabyo bizamenyekana.Ibi byose birabagaragaliza ko ubwi=
canyi bwabaye bwakozwe bwali bwibasiye abanyarwanda bose alicyo gituma abavu=
gisha ukuli babwise genocide rwandais.Kagame arwanya iyi nyito kwali ukwikin=
gira ikibaba ngo igihe nikigera atazaba ali we uyigerekwaho kubera ko yashoj=
e intambara n'akavuyo kashiliyemo imbaga y'abanyarwanda.Arakorera ubusa alik=
o igihe kizagera ikimwaro kimukore kimwe n'abagerageza guscoringa inyungu za=
politiki bamufasha kugoreka amateka y'u Rwanda.Aha byumvikane neza gukomez=
a kuvuga ngo genocide n'iyakorewe abatutsi bonyine,ngo yateguwe na Habyarima=
na abifashijwemo n'inzego za politiki n'iza societe civile cyane cyane amadi=
ni, mu gihugu cyose bigomba kuba bitagifite isoko kuko urukiko rukomeye mpuz=


amahanga ngirango nta planification nk'iyo rwabonye.

>>=20
>> Ikibabaje n'i inzirakarangane zapfuye kandi n'ubu zigipfa zizize icyo zil=
icyo.Zapfiliye mu Rwanda,mu mahanga cyane cyane mu nkambi no mu mashyamba ya=
Congo,Gisangani,Tingitingi,tutibagiwe abaguye i Kibeho(1995) ,Ruhengeli ,Gi=
senyi na Kigali Ngali(1998).Abahanga bakoze ubushakashatsi bemeza ko uruhare=
rwa Kagame mu bwicanyi bw'abanyarwanda rutagereranywa.Niho mpera nibaza aba=
hakana inyito ya genocide rwandais aho babihera.Niho mpera nibaza aho abahak=
ana ko buli munyarwanda wese ali umucikacumu mu gihe ntarumva hali uhakana i=
mvugo ko nta munyarwanda utarakozwe mu inda na kiliya kiza cy'intambara. Mu b=
y'ukuli na bali hanze mu kazi ka Leta cyangwa mu mashuli n'abacikacumu kuko i=


yo baza kuba bali mu Rwanda wenda nibo ryali guheraho.

>>=20
>> Mumbabalire comment yabaye ndende.Nageragezaga gusobanura nk'umuntu wali u=
tuye i Kigali aho narusimbutse inshuro enye zose zilimo amasasu,amabombe,n'i=
bindi.Ntabaye umucikacumu ninde waba we.Imirambo irenga 200 twabyutse tugas=
anga yuzeye uduhanda twa quartier twali dutuyemo bishwe nande iali RPF.Abazi=


i Remera za Kicukiro muzababaze abahutu bahatikiliye uko bangana.

>>=20
>> Reka ndangilize ku gitekerezo cya mucuti wanjye Nkiko ntagutererana amag=
ambo aliko.Ndakeka ko yibeshya kubo yita ababoshye n,abababoshye.Abanyarwand=
a uzasanga babohotse mu mitwe kuko n'ubwo bicecekeye bazi ibyababayeho n'ibi=
subizo by'ibibazo byabiteye.Ni koko Kagame agerageza kubaboha aliko burya ba=
ramuhema iyo arebye hirya.Bashatse bamwibutsa ko 59 yabaye nyuma y'icurabuli=
ndi bamazemo imyaka irenga 400,yaje nk'umurabyo abali barababoshye ntibasob=
anukirwa.Ku bwanjye abo mbona baboshye nabi kandi bikomeye n'abagenda ingend=
o ya Kagame,bagasubiramo imvugo ye nka gasuku,bakerekana ko icyo bapfa na we=
kidakomeye cyane kuko batakoze genocide y'abatutsi kandi ko bayemera.Aba na=
vuga ko baniboha kuko abenshi bali kure ya Kagame mu bilometero birenga 8000=
,bakaba baragize igihe gihagije cyo gushakisha no kumenya ukuli aliko bagah=
itamo kukwirengagiza bakeka ko alibwo buryo bwiza bwo kuzagera ku butegetsi b=
itabagoye(racourci politique).Kuvuga ko hali abandi baboshye abantu abo nkek=
a bavugwa bakaba ali aba dignitaires b'ingoma ya Habyarimana mbona ali ugush=
inyagura.None se abafunze ,abafunze kinwa ngo barebe ko baramuka badatawe mu=
li yombi baboha abantu bishyira bakizana bate?Ahubwo kwa kuli ngo guca mu zi=
ko ntigushye niko kubera ibamba abanyapolitiki bameze nka ba Bamporiki kandi=
nibo basabasa bahawe rugali n'itoteza mpuzamahanga ry'ibisigisi by'aba lead=
ers ba regime yatsinzwe mu rwego rwo gushyigikira Kagame.Kwibohora n'ukwanga=
ikinyoma cyacuzwe cyikanamamazwa na RPF/Kagame n'abamushyize ku ntebe.Aba b=
igobotoye Kagame yahita atsindwa maze amahoro n'amahirwe bigataha i Rwanda a=
ho abacikacumu twese twazabana akaramata mu mahoro no mu bwumvikane.Aliko ub=
undi ayo magambo y'abazungu na invasion yabo mu buzima bwacu tubyemerera iki=
,niba nta zindi nyungu zibyihishe inyuma?Mu mateka y'u Rwanda ndetse n'ibind=
i bihugu abantu bagiraga icyo bapfa bararwanaga bagakiranurwa n'uko babonye u=
muti w'ikibazo.Aya majyambere yo gukoresha genocide mbona nka virus ya sida b=


ateye imibanire y'abanyarwanda.Njyewe ndayamaganye kandi sinkina.

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>> De : "JNepo jnma...@yahoo.com [YouthDemocrats]" <YouthDemocrats@yahoogro=
ups.com>
>> =C3=80 : Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch>=20
>> Cc : "AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr" <AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr>; Emmanuel M=
wiseneza <emwis...@hotmail.com>
>> Envoy=C3=A9 le : Jeudi 16 juin 2016 9h10
>> Objet : [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson=
Public Radio
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>> Mukomere NN.
>>=20
>> Njye ndabisubiramo kandi mbishimangira. Umunyarwanda wese aho ava akagera=
ni umucikacumu. Yaba yarabaga hanze cg mu Rwanda, niba atararokotse ubwica=
nyi bw'interahamwe yarokotse ubwicanyi bw'inkotanyi.=20
>>=20
>> Nashishwe cyane n'iyi mvugo yawe aho ugira uti: "Umucikacumu ni umwere. U=
wishe wese aho ava akagera ni umwicanyi, ntashobora na rimwe kuba umucikacum=
u".
>>=20
>> Byanyibukije ko inzira ikiri ndende kubera ko bene iyi mvugo isa nishyira=
igorora abacikacumu-bicanyi ba RPF cyane cyane ko tugenekereje twasanga iyi=
mvugo yawe iganisha ku yindi mvugo igira iti: "Umucikacumu ni umwere. Uwaro=
kotse (genocide yakorewe abatutsi) wese ni umucikacumu, ntashobora na rimwe k=
uba umwicanyi."
>>=20
>> Wibuke ko ibi bintu aribyo Kagame buri gihe yireguza, avuga ko nta mucika=


cumu wishe cg ko kwica interahamwe n'abana bazo nta kibi kirimo.

>>=20
>> Ni nayo mpamvu buriya bwicanyi bwa RPF bugikomeza kuva muri 1990 mu Rda n=
o muri 1996 muri Congo kugeza uyu munsi amahanga akomeje kubwirengagiza.=20
>>=20
>> Ni mugihe kandi kubera ko bamwe mu banyapolitiki bacu bakagombye gusobanu=


rira ayo mahanga uko ibintu byifashe basa n'abakiri mu gihirahiro.

>>=20


>> Ni ah'Imana yo Mugenga Wa Byose!

>>=20
>> JNepo
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Muvandimwe Rushemeza nongeye kukuramut=
sa.</div><div><br></div><div>Ndagushima. Ariko se ibi bibazo uvuga na njye m=
vuga, kuko nyine tutabivugaho kimwe, abiyemeje bose kujya kw'isonga ya polit=
iki yo kubohora u Rwanda, baba "interahamwe cyangwa abagambanyi", nitutabiga=
niraho, ubona bizagenda bite? Abantu bazishyira hamwe bate kandi batinya guc=
ocera hamwe ibibazo by'ingutu byatumye turi i Shyanga ubu? Byaturutse he ngo=
mu mpera za 1991, abantu uvuga banywaga amata baterekewe n'ingoma ya Habyar=
imana, ngo bayivane mu kanwa? Ni ubucucu gusa, cyangwa hari ibibazo bitakemu=
we? Urumva koko hatari ipfundo rikomeye? Mvuze 1991 kuko mbere y'aho, FPR it=
era muri 1990, nta muntu n'umwe nzi, uretse Bizimungu na Kajeguhakwa n'aband=
i bake b'inshuti zabo bonse ingoma bashatse kubakurikira, ntawe nzi wundi, u=
tari umutoni, wari mu Rwanda, winjiye ku mugaragaro muri FPR. Icyo gihe muri=
1990, ni nde uzi wambwira warwanyije ingabo? Icyo nzi cyo ni ubutegetsi bwa=
hutse mu bantu, burabafunga nta kimenyetso cy'ubugambanyi kuri bo, uretse ku=
zira ubwoko cyangwa aho bakomoka. Anketi yakozwe n'imiryango nyarwanda y'ubu=
renganziramuntu yasanze 30% bari abatutsi, abandi 70%</div><div>bari abahutu=
b'abanyenduga. Byaragaragaye ko ari abere kuko bose baje gufungurwa, kandi n=
ta mashyaka yakabayeho icyo gihe? Ahubwo habaye iki kugira ngo abatoni b'ing=
oma ya Habyarimana basange FPR? Habaye iki kugira ngo aho bashatse abagamban=
yi mu batoni, babashakire ahubwo ahandi, bitwaje ubwoko cyangwa akarere ? Ak=
o kazi ka bamaneko b'ingoma batari ba maneko b'igihugu ukabona ute wowe?&nbs=
p;</div><div>Mbese ubundi koko kuki ubutegetsi butaretse cyera na kare ngo i=
mpunzi zitahe? </div><div>Irondakoko, irondakarere, ivangura, ibyo ni i=
bibazo bimwe tudakwiye kwirengagiza bikwiye gucocwa kuko bidutanya kugeza ub=
u. Hari n'ibindi by'ingutu bireba imitegekere y'igihugu mbere ya 1990 bikwiy=
e gusangirwa. Na mbere ya 1959 cyangwa nyuma yaho. </div><div><br></div=
><div>Nyuma haza rurangiza y'itsembabwoko y'abatutsi bari mu gihugu. FPR/APR=
ifitemo uruhare yego, ariko n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Simvuze ukwica abari a=
banyapolitiki barwanyaga ubutegetsi badakoresheje imbunda. Simvuze abantu bo=
se APR/DMI yivuganye kuva za Byumba.</div><div><br></div><div>Inzira yoroshy=
e yego birumvikana ni uguca hejuru y'ibibazo bikomeye, ugakoresha disikuru y=
a "dushyire hamwe ingufu kuko turi twese victimes y'ingoma ya FPR". Urumva i=
byo bihagije koko? Urumva bihwitse? </div><div><br></div><div>Abajya ha=
mwe ni abemera gusesengura ibibazo, bakamenya ahabatanya n'aho bahuriye, nyu=
ma, kuko bavuguse umuti bakawunywa, bagahana imbabazi, bagaca inzigo, bakabo=
na noneho bakagenera hamwe indoto n'intekerezo bagiye kurwanirira hamwe. Ibi=
ndi ni findi findi ntuzambeshye. N'izo ngabo za FDLR cyangwa izindi zose zab=
a zitegurwa, uzishyire hasi, nta kibazo zakemuye kugeza ubu, nta n'ikindi zi=
zakemura. Twanze gutera iyo ntambwe yo guhura ngo tuvuge ibibazo kandi tubib=
onere ibisubizo by'igihe kije, twumvikane kubo tubona gatujys imbere, twemer=
e ko tubeshya abanyarwanda, ko duhamye i Shyanga imyaka n'imyaka. Ibindi ama=
shyaka arimo ngo ashyize hamwe mu mpuzamashyaka, ni ugufitira kuko guhuza um=
wanzi, ntibihagije, ntibizabuza kurasana igihe cyose tuzaba dukomeje kwimika=
inzigo.</div><div><br></div><div>Ibi nkubwiye birareba amashyaka yose aho a=
va akagera. None ndagutumye muvandimwe Rushemeza, ubimbwirire abanyamashyaka=
wisangaho, maze uzansubize niba bemera ko dusasa inzobe. Nanjye ni uko nzag=
usubiza, niba ubyemeye.</div><div><br></div><div>Kabeho</div><div>Nkiko Nsen=
gimana</div><div><br>Le 29 juin 2016 =C3=A0 21:26, rushemeza thomas <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rus...@yahoo.fr</a>> a =C3=A9crit&=
nbsp;:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;=
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ihangane nongeye kohereza iyi message nkeka ko itatambutse .Computer yanjye i=
shobora kuba ifite ibibazo.</span></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"y=
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> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> r=
ushemeza thomas <<a href=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rush2003@yahoo.=
fr</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">=C3=80 :</span></b=
> Umunsi <<a href=3D"mailto:umu...@bluewin.ch">umu...@bluewin.ch</a>> <=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> "<<a href=3D=
"mailto:collec...@googlegroups.com">collec...@googlegroups.com</a>&g=
t;" <<a href=3D"mailto:collec...@googlegroups.com">collectifcres@goog=
legroups.com</a>>; "<a href=3D"mailto:AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr">AVM_Pop=
u...@yahoogroupes.fr</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr">A=
VM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">=
Envoy=C3=A9 le :</span></b> Mercredi 29 juin 2016 0h06<br> <b><span style=3D=
"font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikigan=
iro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio<br> </font> </div> <div c=
lass=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467228131629_3867"><br><di=
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"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467228131629_3865"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540"><div id=3D"=
yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467167678360_2840"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467167678360_2839" style=3D"background-color:rgb(255, 255,=
255);"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1467161752823_2904"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_=
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0yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-fami=
ly:HelveticaNeue,;">Komera Bwana Nkiko we.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:He=
lveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-famil=
y:HelveticaNeue,;">Maze iminsi mfite impungenge ko my comment itatambutse no=
ne ni byiza ubwo twakomeza.Cependant une importante remarque s'impose avant d=
e continuer!!Bwana  Nkiko nkuzi kuva mbere ya 94,nibura kw'izina,kw'isu=
ra no mu kazi twakoreye igihugu cyacu.Nongeye kukumva mu mashyaka aho tugere=
ye mu buhungiro.Icyo gihe cyose kirekire ntitwigeze tubona umwanya mwiza nk'=
uyu wo guhana ibitekerezo ku byaranze amateka y'igihugu cyacu cyane cyane ku=
va muli 1990.Ubu tugize aya mahirwe ntibyaba byiza tuyapfushije ubusa dukore=
sha imvugo ikunze kuranga abanyarwanda ngo "Garukira bugufi Semuzima"(=3D nt=
iwivemo uvuga akali imurore,utiteranya cyangwa ukikoraho).Uyu muco w'ubucaka=
ra niwo utuma abanyarwanda batabwizanya ukuli,bagahitamo gutinya,guca amaren=
ga ,kubeshya,no kutigera bilinda ibibazo bigiye kubagwilira cyangwa ngo baba=
she kubikemura iyo byabagwililiye.Mu by'ukuli bahora biteganyiliza ibibazo.<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_538=
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e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656=
_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Dore nk'iyi m=
vugo yawe nyizi kuva intambara ya 90 igitangira,yaje gukara amashyaka menshi=
atangiye.Ivangili yigishijwe ikayobokwa cyane yabaye iyo kurwanya bec et on=
gles regime ya Habyarimana.Ngo yahejeje impunzi hanze nkaho aliyo zahunze;ng=
o ni regime yica igafungira abantu ubusa cyane cyane abo bise ibyitso..etcIn=
dilimbo yali "Navaho impundu zizavuga".Bityo kuva icyo gihe nta kiza cyigeze=
kiva kwa Habyarimana n'ingoma ye yitwaga "Akazu".N'aho afunguliye urubuga r=
wa politiki yagumye kwitwa umunyagitugu ubuza abashyaka kubaho.Mu gihe cy'im=
ishyikirano yaremeye atanga ibya mirenge aliko ntibyemerwa kuko ataratanze u=
butegetsi bwose.Ishyaka rye MRND ryali a bunch of criminals baje kwibaruka i=
mitwe y'iterabwoba aliyo CDR n'Interahamwe.Ibyo byigishwaga muli za meetings=
,nyuma y'ubwicanyi buteye isoni bwa FPR aliko ntibwigere bwamaganwa muli izo=
za meetings,mu binyamakuru binyuranye nka Isibo,Kagura ...na Radio Muhabura=
.Abanyamahanga bigishijwe iyo vajili nabo barayoboka.Ibi byorohereje le chef=
d'orchestre Kagame gutegura amarorerwa no kuyashyira mu bikorwa.Byasojwe by=
ose n'urupfu rwa Habyarimana,Ntaryamira n'ibyegera byabo  byafafi na ge=
nocide Nyarwanda nita ntyo kuko yapfiliyemo abanyarwanda  b'amoko yose u=
ko ali atatu.Ababishe nakubiye muli comment yanjye y'ubushize, aliko biragar=
agara ko utanyuzwe.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue=
,;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica=
Neue,;">Igituma utanyurwa nacyo kiragaragara.Urashaka ko nsubiramo nka gasuk=
u imvugo yacuzwe na Oppostion yavukiye mu Rwanda mu bihe by'intambara ifatan=
yije n'umwishi w'abanyarwanda FPR.Sinkunda gucira abandi urubanza kuko ntali=
urukiko.Aliko ku bantu  mbona bakomeje politiki yo guteranya les victi=
mes du FPR bashingira ku birego bishaje kandi by'ibinyoma  ubu nta kund=
i nabafata uretse kubita izina mbona libakwiye ry'Abagambanyi b'abanyarwanda=
bifatanije n'umwanzi wishe benshi muli bo ,abandi akabafungira ubusa, aband=
i akaba abahejeje ishyanga, abagerekaho ibyaha batakoze kugirango yibere umw=
ere imbere y'amahanga kandi akomeze yihalire ibyiza by'igihugu.Franchement w=
owe Nkiko ubu icyo utegereje kw'ikulikiranwa ry'ingoma ya Habyarimana mu but=
abera n'iki?Habyarimana yarahotowe,uwamuhotoye uramuzi aliko  ntaho wig=
era umutunga urutoki kuko wanga possiblement kwisibira amayira yo kuba mwaza=
sangira ubutegetsi.Ntunkangishe bya birego mwohereza muli za Nations Unies m=
ugahita mutanga nibibikuba na zero biba bisanga n'izindi rapports zibivuguru=
za muba mwarazisasiye nk'ibyo mwajyaga musabisha imyanya muli politiki ngo m=
uli les moderes,muli abere,ababi ni baliya.Abambali ba Habyarimana  muv=
uga barahizwe,bamwe banicirwa mu mahanga, ntavuze abamaliwe kw'icumu mu Rwan=
da,abandi bashyikilijwe inkiko z'amahanga naza Gacaca.Abenshi barafunze.Ubu a=
bandi ushaka ni bande?Abo bantu bamennye amaraso n'ababashyigikiye ushaka gu=
heza muli politiki ubavana hehe?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:=
HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv73511105=
40yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-fam=
ily:HelveticaNeue,;">Reka rero jyewe Rushemeza ngufashe kumena ikibyimba no k=
ukuvugutira umuti.Kagame yazanye amarere ngo azanye demukarasi,ngirango mwan=
yuzwe na democratie minoritaire;ubu ikibazo cy'impuzi cyararangiye abali iny=
uma y'igihugu ni k'ubushake bwabo;umutungo w'igihugu usaranganijwe neza kand=
i ubukungu bugera kuli bose bwaliyongereye,nta nzara,nta bushomeli,abanyarwa=
nda babanye neza,...Iyi ni politiki abamwakiliye nk'umukiza igihe yateraga u=
Rwanda ,bakamushyigikira kugeza afashe igihugu batazitandukanya nayo  =
n'akangaratete u Rwanda rulimo ubu ngubu.Ni abafatanya cyaha.Iyi niyo mpamvu=
bagishakisha ba  bouc emissaire.Bibaye mahire kuli bo izina Habyariman=
a n'abatamwita umwanzi w'u Rwanda byakwibagirana burundu.Umuti mugomba kunyw=
a ni uko ibi bitazashoboka.Ukuli kuzatsinda abanyabyaha nyabo n'abafatanya c=
yana babo bashyirwe ku Karubanda maze u rwanda rugaruke mu mahoro n'ubumwe b=
yo nkingi ya demukarasi nyayo.Nta mahoro ashobora gutekerezwa,nta na politik=
i ishobora gukorwa mu gihe  hali bamwe bagihatira abandi kwemera ibyaha=
batakoze.Uyu ni wa muze w'ubuswa muli politiki wo gushaka inzira yoroshye y=
o kugera ku butegetsi ukoresheje amayeli n'ubujura mu mwanya w'amapiganwa.No=
ne se koko byabaye he ko igihugu giterwa kikaba ali cyo gihindurwa igi terro=
riste?Muzasobanura byinshi cyangwa mugume mubikwepe.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0=
, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:r=
gb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Ndarangiza ngusubiliramo ko,abishe a=
banyarwanda balimo n'abatutsi nkoresheje ijambo ukunda n'abahutu wita impunz=
i zo muli Kongo, ali ababa bakulikira  nku'uko  mushakashatsi Scot=
t Strauss abidutangaliza:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helveti=
caNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Hel=
veticaNeue,;">"  <span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14671617528=
23_15777" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Optima, Segoe,;">Now ne=
wly uncovered evidence suggests another motivator =E2=80=93 fear of Tutsi ci=
vilians =E2=80=93 was also justified.</span><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_15778" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:20px;">Several confidential documents from the UN=E2=80=99s I=
nternational Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) provide chilling evidence t=
hat Tutsi civilians worked hand-in-hand with Paul Kagame=E2=80=99s Rwandan P=
atriotic Front (RPF) to commit crimes against Hutus in 1994. The evidence fr=
om these documents is bolstered by lengthy interviews with individuals who w=
itnessed these operations.<span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467167=
678360_4401" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">The=
ICTR documents refer to RPF=E2=80=99s</span><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1467167678360_4402" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:H=
elveticaNeue,;"> </span><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146716=
7678360_4403" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">ab=
akada</em><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467167678360_4404" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> </span><span i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467167678360_4405" style=3D"color:rgb(6=
8, 68, 68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">or civilian cadres and the =E2=80=98=
loyal population=E2=80=99 assisting the RPF in committing massive human righ=
ts abuses across the country. Abakada were Tutsi technocrats recruited befor=
e, during and after the genocide. They became the interface between the RPF o=
n the one hand, and UN agencies, NGOs, human rights investigators and journa=
lists on the other. The cadres played a crucial role in Rwanda=E2=80=99s sta=
tecraft and propaganda system after the genocide.</span>The crimes cited in U=
N documents included identifying prominent Hutus that would later be execute=
d, locating and putting Hutus in dungeons, delivering Hutus over to RPF inte=
lligence agents and digging mass graves to bury victims. The ICTR documents=E2=
=80=94which contain identifying information and cannot be made public=E2=80=94=
consist of testimony from former RPF members who broke with the regime.In hi=
s book The Order of Genocide, Scott Straus explores the profile of the genoc=
ide perpetrator. After conducting extensive research in Rwandan prisons, Str=
aus posits that most of the murders of Tutsis were carried out by a small gr=
oup of =E2=80=98extremely zealous killers, paramilitaries and soldiers.=E2=80=
=99 About a quarter of the murders were committed by ordinary Hutus, he says=
, estimating that seven to eight percent of the Hutu adult population, or 14=
to 17 percent of adult Hutu males, actively killed Tutsis or Hutus opposed t=
o the violence.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
467167678360_12685" style=3D"margin-bottom:20px;">Yet there are eerie parall=
els between how the violence played out in Hutu government-controlled and in=
Tutsi RPF-controlled zones, and how Rwandans from both ethnic groups seemed=
ready to betray one another as soon as their president, Juvenal Habyarimana=
, a Hutu, was assassinated on April 6.  Ultimately, with its top-down c=
ommand structure and superior political organization, the RPF was better abl=
e to conceal its crimes and control the narrative.<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_15778" st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Mu by'ukuli urabona k=
o habaye effort yo gukulikirana cyane uruhande rumwe ,urusa n'uko alirwo rwa=
koze amarorerwa menshi rukirengagizwa nkana abantu bakomeza kulindagiza aban=
yarwanda gusa.Igikunda kwitabwaho uko bimaze kugaragara n'ugutangatanga igis=
igisigi cya regime ya Habyarimana.Ngaho kubakira amashyaka kuli New generati=
on en oppostion a old,sous entendu old regime,aha ndahamya ko regime ya Kaga=
me idafatwa nka old.Andi mashyaka yiyise ay'aba moderes opposes des extremis=
tes bo muli CDR na MRND.Andi yavutse yitandukanyije n'ayo bita ko yavukiye m=
u nkambi.Andi n'aya aba Victimes ba systeme MRND...etc. Aya mashyaka yose ah=
a akato ayo akeka ,souvent a tort ,ko ali pro-regime Habyarimana uyasanga mu=
li complots zo gusenya ingaga zakagombye kuba   amizero y'abanyarwanda.=
Urugero rubabaje ni akaga FDLR ilimo muli iyi minsi.Ibi ni agahomamunwa ntac=
yo nabivugaho kuli uru rubuga rw'abandi.No kuba naratanze umuganda nk'uyu na=
byo sinizeye ko ntawe byabangamiye.Baramutse baliho nabasaba imbabazi mbikuy=
e ku mutima.Kuli Nkiko tumaze iminsi tuganira nawe ndamushimira cyane. Kuli j=
yewe urugi rurakinguye rwose dushobora gukomeza kungurana ibitekerezo ugerag=
eza kuva mu mvugo laconique et accusatoire seulement uzi neza ko utali juge.=
Nta mpamvu nimwe yatuma utajya mu biganiro n'uwaba afite amaraso ku ntoki ig=
ihe ataracirwa urubanza bavuga ko aba ali umwere.Nsinzi niba ushobora no kwi=
handagaza ukavuga ko utazajya mu biganiro Kagame azaba alimo ugize Imana aka=
kwemerera.Keretse uvuze ko amaraso yamennye yali amashyira.Ngirango iyo ni i=
mvugo ya Kagame,abe, n'abazungu bemeza ko umuhutu atava amaraso.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_15778" style=3D=
"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Gira amahoro y'Imana.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_15778" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Thomas.</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_15786" style=3D=
"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
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v><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5384" s=
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e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656=
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"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146715327=
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"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5605" style=3D"fon=
t-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, san=
s-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146715327=
9656_5604" style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ar=
ial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv73=
51110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5603"> <b id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_11095"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
467153279656_11094" style=3D"font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Umunsi &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:umu...@bluewin.ch">umu...@bluewin.ch</a>><br clear=3D=
"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">=C3=80 :</span></b> rushem=
eza thomas <<a href=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rus...@yahoo.fr</a=
>> <br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Cc :</spa=
n></b> "<<a href=3D"mailto:collec...@googlegroups.com">collectifcres@=
googlegroups.com</a>>" <<a href=3D"mailto:collectifcres@googlegroups.c=
om">collec...@googlegroups.com</a>>; "<a href=3D"mailto:AVM_Populi@ya=
hoogroupes.fr">AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:AVM_Pop=
u...@yahoogroupes.fr">AVM_P...@yahoogroupes.fr</a>><br clear=3D"none"> <=
b id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_8704"><span id=3D"yiv73=
51110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_8703" style=3D"font-weight:bold;">En=
voy=C3=A9 le :</span></b> Mardi 28 juin 2016 7h45<br clear=3D"none"> <b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [YouthDemocrats] R=
e: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio<br clear=3D"non=
e"> </div> <div class=3D"yiv7351110540yqt8323425880" id=3D"yiv7351110540yqt=
86522"><div class=3D"yiv7351110540qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1467161752823_5355"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv class=3D"yiv7351110540yqt3601177253" id=3D"yiv7351110540yqt24518"><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv7351110540yqt5379215258" id=3D"yiv7351110540yqt11037"><div class=3D=
"yiv7351110540y_msg_container" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14671532=
79656_5607"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540"><div id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5609"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5608">Iyi nyandiko ni yo yuzuye, soma iyi</div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div></div></blockquote></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5682"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1467153279656_5681">Muvandimwe Rushemeza,</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5683"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv73=
51110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153279656_5684">Wisya wanzitse uvuga gusa uruh=
are rukomeye FPR/APR/DMI yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu Rwanda, w=
owe wita itsembabwoko nyarwanda, uruhare rwose yanagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'i=
mpunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo. Sya unanditse uvuga uruhare ingoma ya Habyarima=
na yagize mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Interahamwe n'Impuzamugambi zari zifi=
te gitegeka urabizi, ari muri MRND, ari muri CDR. Aba GP n'indi mitwe y'inga=
bo mike izwi nabo bari bafite abazikuriye, batari muri Etat major, bakorerag=
a hanze yayo nabo bazwi. Ibyo kubashakira impamvu ngo habuze amasasu n'ibind=
i, kandi uzi amarorerwa yakozwe, bireke rwose. Nkuko nakubwiye nta rubanza d=
ufite gucira bamwe mu bambari bagishyigikiye iyo ngoma yakoze amarorerwa, si=
yo nshingano yacu. Ni ubucamanza. Gusa, kubera ko inzira ya politiki ihamye=
yaka abataramennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, kandi badashyigikiye abayamennye=
, ndabasaba abo, ko bemera tugahura, tugasesengura ibibazo na nubu bikidutan=
ya, tukavugana ibyatubayeho, uruhare twagize, umuti tubona, tukanzura, abawu=
vuguta bakawuvuguta, abawunywa bakawunywa, tugashyira imbere abazaba batuber=
eye urumuri mu nzira yo kubohora u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda. Gukomeza guha urub=
uga rwa politiki bene abo, bizakomeza kutuzinga. Atura witinya. Kabeho. Nkik=
o Nsengimana</div><div class=3D"yiv7351110540yqt4871564140" id=3D"yiv7351110=
540yqtfd33329"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1467153279656_8670" type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1467153279656_8669"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467153=
279656_8668"><br clear=3D"none">Le 23 juin 2016 =C3=A0 22:31, rushemeza thom=
as <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1467161752823_10747" ymailto=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rus...@yahoo.fr</a>> a =C3=A9=
crit :<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
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or:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Hel=
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110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14622"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_1=
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66701226909_14626" style=3D"background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14628"><div id=3D"yiv735111054=
0yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14630"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1466701226909_14632" style=3D"background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14635" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> Komera cyane Muv=
andimwe kandi Nshuti Nkiko</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
66701226909_14637" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">=
<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14639"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_1=
4641" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Ndabanza gush=
ima byimazeyo intera igaragara mu kugira aho duhulira.Ndizera ko mu gihe kit=
arambiranye imigozi ituboshye niba ihali izatulika tugahoberana kandi bikaba=
byafasha n'abandi bashobora kuba baboshye.Iyi ntera mvuga iragaragalira mub=
yo tumaze kwemeranyaho bitagaragaraga neza ko tubihuje tugitangira.Icya mber=
e n'ukwemeranya ku nyito y'ubwicanyi bwabaye mu Rwanda aliyo genocide nyarwa=
nda.Icyakabili ni uruhare rukomeye cyane  FPR/Kagame bagize mu bwicanyi=
bwose, ubw'abahutu n'ubw' abatutsi hafi mu gihugu hose no hanze yacyo.Jyewe=
, nkulikije ibyo abashakashatsi bakwiye ikizere kubera acces facile bagize k=
uli informations bavanaga ahantu hizewe, naguhaye ikigereranyo cya 90% y'aba=
nyarwanda bishwe na FPR ibaziza icyo bali cyo mu nyungu za politiki aliyo yo=
kwitwaza genocide ngo babone embargo contre les FAR bityo bifatire ubuteget=
si bitabagoye.Icya gatatu ni uko nta planification yabaye ku ruhande rwa Let=
a y'u Rwanda.Gusa kuba wemeza ko panification atali condition sine qua non k=
ugirango ubwicanyi bwitwe genocide,mbanje kureba definition y'iryo jambo rid=
uhora mu kanwa.Nsanze izi extraits zikulikira zadufasha gutekereza kurutaho b=
itali icyuka nka kimwe kiranga ba rusisibiranya bo muli FPR na ya opposition=
ya ba Rwanda rw'ejo.</div><h3 id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_14643" style=3D"color:rgb(255, 100, 101);font-family:Arial, Verdana, T=
ahoma;font-size:12px;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:7px;clear:both;text-align=
:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14645">"Le g=C3=A9nocide, crime de droit internati=
onal</em></h3><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14647"=
style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size=
:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);">Le g=C3=A9noc=
ide entendu comme acte criminel entra=C3=AEnant la responsabilit=C3=A9 inter=
nationale du coupable a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 d=C3=A9fini pour la premi=C3=A8re fois=
dans la Convention pour la pr=C3=A9vention et la r=C3=A9pression du crime d=
e g=C3=A9nocide, sign=C3=A9e =C3=A0 Gen=C3=A8ve en 1948. Cette d=C3=A9finiti=
on, reprise dans les statuts des tribunaux internationaux p=C3=A9naux ad hoc=
=C3=A9tablis par le Conseil de s=C3=A9curit=C3=A9 de l=E2=80=99ONU et int=C3=
=A9gr=C3=A9e =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99article 6 du Statut de Rome instituant la Cour=
p=C3=A9nale internationale, se lit comme suit :</div><div id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14649" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74)=
;font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;backgr=
ound-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"> </div><h4 id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14651" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Ari=
al, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:10px;text-al=
ign:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14653">=C2=AB </em><em id=3D"yiv7351110540=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14655">(...) le [crime de] g=C3=A9nocide s=E2=
=80=99entend de l=E2=80=99un quelconque des actes ci-apr=C3=A8s, commis dans=
l=E2=80=99intention de d=C3=A9truire, ou tout ou en partie, un groupe natio=
nal, ethnique, racial ou religieux, comme tel : a) Meurtre de membres d=
u groupe ; b) Atteinte grave =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99int=C3=A9grit=C3=A9 physi=
que ou mentale de membres du groupe ; c) Soumission intentionnelle du g=
roupe =C3=A0 des conditions d=E2=80=99existence devant entra=C3=AEner sa des=
truction physique totale ou partielle ; d) Mesures visant =C3=A0 entrav=
er les naissances au sein du groupe ; e) Transfert forc=C3=A9 d=E2=80=99=
enfants du groupe =C3=A0 un autre groupe.</em><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14657">=C2=BB</em></h4><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14659" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-famil=
y:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:=
rgb(246, 249, 247);"> </div><h4 id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
66701226909_14661" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana=
, Tahoma;font-size:12px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:10px;text-align:justify=
;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1466701226909_14663">=C2=AB </em><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_14665">dans l=E2=80=99intention de d=C3=A9truire (...) u=
n groupe (...) comme tel</em><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670=
1226909_14667"> =C2=BB</em></h4><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1466701226909_14669" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Ve=
rdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 24=
9, 247);"><em id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14671"></em=
></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14673" style=3D=
"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;tex=
t-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);">L=E2=80=99acte commis d=
oit en outre l=E2=80=99=C3=AAtre dans l=E2=80=99intention explicite de d=C3=A9=
truire le groupe, et con=C3=A7u pour favoriser la r=C3=A9alisation de cet ob=
jectif. Le g=C3=A9nocide est dirig=C3=A9 contre le groupe en tant qu=E2=80=99=
entit=C3=A9 : les actions qu=E2=80=99il entra=C3=AEne sont men=C3=A9es c=
ontre des individus, non en raison de leurs qualit=C3=A9s individuelles, mai=
s uniquement parce qu=E2=80=99ils sont membres du groupe vis=C3=A9. Ainsi, l=
a victime ultime du crime n=E2=80=99est pas l=E2=80=99individu, mais le grou=
pe. Ce dernier est par ailleurs le plus souvent d=C3=A9fini et circonscrit p=
ar les agresseurs, sans qu=E2=80=99il soit n=C3=A9cessaire de manifester de s=
entiment d=E2=80=99appartenance ou m=C3=AAme de choisir (ou de nier) son rat=
tachement.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670=
1226909_14675" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br c=
lear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14677"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14679"=
style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14681" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74)=
;font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;backgr=
ound-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);">Il n=E2=80=99y a pas de seuil quantitatif de=
victimes : ainsi, il est concevable que le meurtre d=E2=80=99une seule=
personne puisse donner lieu =C3=A0 une accusation de g=C3=A9nocide, si l=E2=
=80=99on peut prouver l=E2=80=99intention requise associ=C3=A9e =C3=A0 sa co=
mmission ; inversement, un massacre de masse peut =C3=A9chapper =C3=A0 l=
a qualification de g=C3=A9nocide si cette intention est absente ou ne peut =C3=
=AAtre prouv=C3=A9e. Ceci peut cr=C3=A9er des probl=C3=A8mes de compr=C3=A9h=
ension, notamment au sein du grand public.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14683" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0=
, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14685"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv735111054=
0yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14687" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-fam=
ily:HelveticaNeue,;"> <span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670=
1226909_14689" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Ta=
homa;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"=
>Du point de vue juridique, la g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ralisation du terme =C3=A0 tout=
e instance de massacre de masse est abusive, en ce qu=E2=80=99elle fait fi d=
es crit=C3=A8res sp=C3=A9cifiques qui permettent justement d=E2=80=99=C3=A9t=
ablir la distinction entre le g=C3=A9nocide et d=E2=80=99autres atrocit=C3=A9=
s, parfois m=C3=AAme plus meurtri=C3=A8res et tout aussi choquantes, m=C3=AA=
me si l=E2=80=99on pourra pourtant appliquer =C3=A0 ces derni=C3=A8res la fi=
gure plus g=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale du crime contre l=E2=80=99humanit=C3=A9. Un exe=
mple de cette articulation parfois malais=C3=A9e entre des comportements hor=
rifiants et la qualification de g=C3=A9nocide est la tristement c=C3=A9l=C3=A8=
bre pratique du =C2=AB nettoyage ethnique =C2=BB, laquelle peut ou=
non, selon le cas, constituer un acte de g=C3=A9nocide, selon qu=E2=80=99il=
est possible d=E2=80=99=C3=A9tablir l=E2=80=99intention de d=C3=A9truire le=
groupe et non =C2=AB simplement =C2=BB celle de l=E2=80=99expulse=
r.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701=
226909_14691" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span=
id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14693" style=3D"color:rg=
b(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:j=
ustify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14695"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14697" style=3D"color:rgb(=
0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1466701226909_14699" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, V=
erdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 2=
49, 247);">Au del=C3=A0 de la typologie, ou du d=C3=A9bat sur la banalisatio=
n du concept, ce probl=C3=A8me d=E2=80=99=C3=A9tiquetage r=C3=A9v=C3=A8le =C3=
=A0 quel point le terme a acquis une charge =C3=A9motive particuli=C3=A8re a=
ux yeux du public. La controverse entourant le Rapport de la Commission Inte=
rnationale d=E2=80=99Enqu=C3=AAte sur le Darfour (ONU) en 2004 d=C3=A9montre=
=C3=A9galement cet aspect plus dramatique du d=C3=A9bat. Ainsi, d=E2=80=99a=
ucuns se sont dits outr=C3=A9s de voir que la Commission d=E2=80=99enqu=C3=AA=
te n=E2=80=99a pas jug=C3=A9 d=C3=A9tenir de preuves suffisantes pour souten=
ir une d=C3=A9nonciation de g=C3=A9nocide dans le rapport, et ce m=C3=AAme s=
=E2=80=99il ne fait aucun doute que les comportements observ=C3=A9s =C2=AB&n=
bsp;ont =C3=A9t=C3=A9 men=C3=A9s de fa=C3=A7on syst=C3=A9matique et r=C3=A9p=
andue et peuvent donc constituer des crimes contre l=E2=80=99humanit=C3=A9&n=
bsp;=C2=BB (la CPI ajoutera =C3=A9ventuellement =C3=A0 son mandat d=E2=80=99=
arr=C3=AAt contre le pr=C3=A9sident soudanais Omar El-B=C3=A9chir la charge d=
e g=C3=A9nocide en juillet 2010). Ces derniers sont, en th=C3=A9orie tout au=
ssi graves et r=C3=A9pugnants que le g=C3=A9nocide, lui-m=C3=AAme crime diri=
g=C3=A9 contre l=E2=80=99humanit=C3=A9 de ses victimes. Mais l=E2=80=99impac=
t cathartique n=E2=80=99est pas le m=C3=AAme : on pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8re rev=
endiquer la caract=C3=A9risation de g=C3=A9nocide pour mettre en =C3=A9viden=
ce de fa=C3=A7on ind=C3=A9niable la gravit=C3=A9 extr=C3=AAme du sort subi, c=
omme s=E2=80=99il existait une =C3=A9chelle de gradation. En ce sens, le g=C3=
=A9nocide semble avoir conserv=C3=A9, =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99=C3=A9chelon internat=
ional, son statut peu enviable de =C2=AB crime des crimes =C2=BB."=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670122=
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1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14707" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74)=
;font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;"><a r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_14709" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.operationspaix.net/GAREAU-=
Jean-Francois" style=3D"color:rgb(255, 100, 101);text-decoration:none;">Jean=
-Fran=C3=A7ois Gareau</a></strong><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1466701226909_14711" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verd=
ana, Tahoma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249,=
247);"> </span></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701=
226909_14713" style=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tah=
oma;font-size:12px;text-align:justify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);">=
UQAM</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14715" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(74, 74, 74);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Tahoma;text-align:ju=
stify;background-color:rgb(246, 249, 247);"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14717">15 mars 2011<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yi=
v7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14719"></div><div id=3D"yiv735111=
0540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14721"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14723"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14725"> Wihangane usome entre les lignes u=
rabona ko muli caracterisation ya genocide halimo necessairement l'intention=
prouvee.Birumvikana ko iyi intention prouvee ikunda kugaruka ali ubundi bur=
yo bwo kuvuga planification.Sindeba uruhande uhagararamo cyangwa ubogamiramo=
kugirango ukoreshe imvugo ya Kagame ufite ibyo ahunga niwe ukunda iyo mvugo=
ngo abantu ntibiyishe.Utazi se ko abenshi ali we wabishe abandi akabicisha n=
i inde?.N'ubundi iby'i wacu bijya gucika ijambo genocide ni FPR n'ama ONG ya=
li yaraguze notamment Survie ya  Carbonare baryadukanye mu Rwanda bwa m=
bere."<span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14727" style=3D=
"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11.9px;line-height:1=
9.04px;"></span><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_147=
29" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;lin=
e-height:22.4px;">D=C3=A9but 1993, un an avant le g=C3=A9nocide au Rwanda,&n=
bsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_14731" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://fr.wikipedia.o=
rg/wiki/Jean_Carbonare" title=3D"Jean Carbonare" style=3D"text-decoration:no=
ne;color:rgb(11, 0, 128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:2=
2.4px;background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" title-off=3D=
"">Jean Carbonare</a><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670122690=
9_14733" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14p=
x;line-height:22.4px;">, alors Pr=C3=A9sident de Survie, avait =C3=A9t=C3=A9=
enqu=C3=AAteur de la commission parrain=C3=A9e par la </span><a rel=3D=
"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909=
_14735" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9d%C3%=
A9ration_internationale_des_droits_de_l%27homme" title=3D"F=C3=A9d=C3=A9rati=
on internationale des droits de l'homme" style=3D"text-decoration:none;color=
:rgb(11, 0, 128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.4px;ba=
ckground-image:none;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" title-off=3D"">F=C3=
=A9d=C3=A9ration internationale des droits de l'homme</a><span id=3D"yiv7351=
110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14737" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);=
font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.4px;">, Africa Watch, l=
'UIDH (Ouagadougou) et le CIDPDD/ICHRDD (Montr=C3=A9al). Cette commission av=
ait enqu=C3=AAt=C3=A9 au Rwanda, puis publi=C3=A9 un rapport d=C3=A9non=C3=A7=
ant les pr=C3=A9misses d'un g=C3=A9nocide. Jean Carbonare intervint au journ=
al de 20 heures avec Bruno Masure pour alerter les Fran=C3=A7ais sur ce risq=
ue</span><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14739" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-heigh=
t:22.4px;">,</span><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_=
14741" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;=
line-height:22.4px;">(voir la 4</span><sup id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1466701226909_14743" style=3D"line-height:1em;color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font=
-family:sans-serif;">e</sup><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667=
01226909_14745" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-s=
ize:14px;line-height:22.4px;"> partie de l'article sur les critiques fo=
rmul=C3=A9es contre cette commission)</span><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14747" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:s=
ans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:22.4px;"> sur la base d'une enqu=C3=
=AAte sur le terrain en janvier 1993.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv=
7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14749"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14751" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;font-size:11.9px;line-height:19.04px;background-color:rgb(221=
, 238, 255);"> </span><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670=
1226909_14753" style=3D"color:rgb(37, 37, 37);font-family:sans-serif;font-si=
ze:11.9px;line-height:19.04px;">Selon ses d=C3=A9tracteurs, le rapport a ete=
redige sur la base de t=C3=A9moignages qui lui auraient =C3=A9t=C3=A9 fourn=
is directement par des proches de Kagame, comme Janvier Africa, qui aurait a=
vou=C3=A9 des ann=C3=A9es plus tard avoir menti sur ordre du FPR".Icyo nizer=
a kidakuka ni uko igihe nikigera ababoshye barabohotse ,planification ya gen=
ocide izaboneka kwa Kagame dore aho nibereye. Koko rero wongere usome defini=
tion ya genocide et ses caracterisations urasanga FPR yarayikoze ku buryo bu=
sukuye wagereranya n'ubwa Shoah.Muvandimwe nizere ko utali mubaduteje ba rus=
arulira mu nduru nka bali ba Jean Carbonare kuko namwita mugenzi wawe mu bay=
obozi ba za ONG nabonye jyewe par principe ziba buli gihe ali opposes au &nb=
sp;pouvoiren place.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14755" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helve=
ticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_14757"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146=
6701226909_14759" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">I=
gisigaye  ni ukurebera hamwe nanone uruhare abicanyi bo ku ruhande rwa L=
eta y'u Rwanda no gusesengura neza tukamenya  abo bicanyi abo ali bo ic=
yabibateye n'icyo bali bagamije.Mbere y'uko ngira icyo mvuga kuli uru ruhare=
ushaka kwita urw'ingoma ya Habyarimana kubera ahali ko ubwicanyi buvugwa ko=
bwakozwe ni interahamwe.Reka mbanze nkwibutse ko ijambo INTERAHAMWE ali ija=
mbo ligomba kwitonderwa n'abanyarwanda cyane cyane abahagaralire rubanda nk'=
abapolitisiye ejo mutazavaho mubambisha abo mwagombaga kurengera.Ili jambo l=
ifite multiple definitions kimwe n'ijambo ligezweho Ndumunyarwanda.Iyo nawe n=
zi uzi aliko ukaba uyirengagiza ni iya FPR.Kuliyo umuhutu wese ni interahamw=
e.Undi wese bakeka ko atabashyigikiye ni interahamwe nka Mitterrand.Nkulikij=
e ubushakashatsi  na observations personelles,burya amashyaka yose yagi=
raga imbyiruko zabagamo les indisciplines.Abo nibo bafashe ibikoresho byabo b=
yo mu ngo bajya kwishakira ibyo batali bafite.Byorohejwe n'umwuka wali uheru=
tse guterwa n'urupfu rwa Ndadaye ,ubwicanyi burenze kwihanganirwa rw'abapoli=
tisiye n'abaciviles batali ku rugamba.Inflitration n'umugambi yali ishinzwe n=
ayo yashyizeho akayo.Bien sure la disparution inopinee du Chef de l'Etat n'a=
bayobozi bakomeye b'igihugu na faiblesse y'ingirwa gouvernement yagiyeho dan=
s des conditions deplorables byahise biha rugali les malfaiteurs bali bien e=
ncadres par le FPR. yo yali bien fourni en armes,en organisation et en moyen=
s de propagande mediatique.que les FAR qui avaient ete depossedes du peu d'a=
rmes qu'ils avaient par la MINUAR.Mujye mushyira mu gaciro mwibaze impamvu a=
bafransa birukanwe;impamvu MINUAR yatereranye u Rwanda.Ni inde ibi byahaga i=
nyungu?Embargo sur les armes yashyiliweho les FAR yali iyo gufasha guhagalik=
a ubwicanyi bwakorwaga na les mafaiteurs bakoreshwaga na Kagame inyuma y'ing=
abo z'u Rwanda? </div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1466701226909_14761" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaN=
eue,;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909=
_14764"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_14766" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br cl=
ear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14768"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14770" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Kuvuga ngo bali bafi=
te ababayobora bali muli gouvernement ya Habyarimana c'est faux.Ubundi kandi=
ubanza wirengagiza ko gouvernement yabanje kuba iya Nsengiyaremye utarumvik=
anaga  na Shebuja na gato ku buryo yali yaramwirukanye muli iyo Gov.Ama=
hano!!!Le gouvernement ephemere ya Agatha nayo ntiyali gouvernement yali aka=
jagali.iyo gouvernent se yaba yarateguye ite iyo genocide?Ushobora kuba usha=
ka kuvuga ko abayobozi ba MRND  alibo bali bagize gouvernement ya Habya=
rimana.Archfaux kuko yali imaze igihe yubakiye ku mashyaka menshi.Ikindi ni u=
ko Habyarimana atali akili mu nzego za MRND.Abakatiwe na Arusha n'abarekuwe b=
arahagije ngo bigaragare ko nta kintu kitwa kuyobora bya hafi cg bya kure by=
igeze bibaho.Uba se ushaka  kuvuga ko Gouvernement ya Kambanda ali igis=
igara cya regime ya Habyarimana kigomba kuba cyarakomeje umugambi?Ibyawe nti=
byumvikana wagirango uracyakora politiki nk'imwe yakozwe mu gihe cy'intambar=
a yali igamije kwambura ubutegetsi Habyarimana hatazwi uzabufata.Guhuzagulik=
a no kugambanira igihugu buhumyi!!!.N'ibyo bibazo bindi mufite muzabish=
yire ahagaragara tubicoce aliko mfite ubwoba ko nta bushake bwo gukemura ibi=
bazo kubera ubwibone,ubuswa,no kwikunda bya bamwe muli twe bituma bahitamo k=
wibera ba bangamwabo baha icyanzu FPR igasarulira mu nduru.Inama natanga ni u=
ko abanyarwanda bakwicisha bugufi,bakareka speculations,bakareka gutsimbarar=
a ku turere twabo no ku mashyaka na za guvernements bahoze biyumvamo,bakabaz=
a ibibazo ,bagasaba inama  inaralinbonye z'indahemuka nka ba Enoch Ruhi=
gira n'abandi bakiliho kandi bakumva ibisubizo,bagafata inama.Nkanjye ukubwi=
ra aya magambo ngerageza kugira menshi nkaho twaba twicaye tuganira,simanura=
ibintu mu kirere.Nakulikiranye ikibazo cy'intambara,icy'imishyikirano  =
;n'amasezerano ya Arusha.akazi nakoraga kashoboraga gutuma ngira apercu gene=
ral ku mivukire no ku mikorere  y'imbyiruko z'amashyaka.Ibi byatumye nk=
enerwa  gutanga  temoignage muli  TPIR sur Le Vrai Visage de l=
a Crise Rwandaise:le role de la guerre imposee au Rwanda par le FPR,l'ouvert=
ure politique aux partis opposes au pouvoir et de leurs jeunesses en temps d=
e guerre.L'avocat de la defense wali wanyifuje yali yansabye kwisanzura kuli=
la Jeunesse Interahamwe.Ibyo nabikoze n'umutima mwiza  abali muli audi=
ence bose balishima.Imaginez-vous kuba abanyamahanga bumva ubuhamya bakabush=
ima bavuga ko bahigiye byinshi aliko wabuha bene wanyu na potentialites nyin=
shi yo kuba babwumva vuba aliko bakanangira.Mpita mbona ko bafite indi agend=
a.Nkubwize ukuli jyewe nanavuze ko nta genocide yabaye ikozwe n'uruhande rwa=
Leta kandi ko uruhare mu byabaye mu Rwanda ali FPR igomba kubiryozwa. =
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14=
774" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"n=
one" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14776"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14778" style=3D=
"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yi=
v7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14780"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14782" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0=
, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Ni aha mpera nguhakanira ko ces hors-la lo=
i wasangaga buzuyemo abakombozi,inkuba,abasederi,interahamwe kw'izina  =
..etc ntawabayoboraga wundi utali Kagame/FPR.Hali abo jyewe niboneye aho tug=
ereye za Gitarama babaga soit bambaye imyenda ya gisilikare, soit imyenda y'=
interahamwe kandi bali bazwi gukomera mu mbyiruko z'andi mashyaka.Nk'uwitwa J=
ohn wali mu balindaga aba VIP ba MDR wagombye kuba umuzi.Abo ni nabo babaga b=
akazi kimwe n'ababaga baroherejwe na FPR.Ku byerekeranye n'intwaro z'imbunda=
,nibyo koko hali ababaga bazifite.Nta gitangaza mu gihugu kilimo intambara,=
kubona imbunda ni nk'ubufindo.Muvuga  abali bafite intwaro ntimuvuge ab=
atutsi.Hali uw'inshuti wamfashe nk'indangare kuba ntali mfite imbunda.ambwir=
a ko we afite ebyili into n'inini.Baliya  ba paysans  uko twese tw=
abibonye bishoye mu bikorwa ntawubatumye kandi kugirango bazamenyekane bose b=
ahanwe ni impossible.C'etait une sorte de mafia,une sorte de categorie socia=
le nebuleuse qu'a su exploiter le mieux organise de deux combatants a savoir=
le FPR. Kandi niyo baboneka intention yo kulimbura ku banyarwanda bazi u Rw=
anda na za muyaga zagiye ziba nta intention yo gutsembatsemba iba ihali biza=
nk'umuyaga nyine bikagenda nkawo .Muyaga yo muli 94 yaje ifite umwihaliko k=
ubera le FPR qui tirait les ficelles.Le FPR yatsinze abasilikare agguerris b=
a FAR ntiyali kunanirwa guhagarika abasivile barwanishaga imipanga n'ubuhili=
.Aha nawe uhibaze,bali muli Kigali aho bahise bafata positions strategiques z=
ose.Bababuze iki ngo batabare abo bitwaga ko  barwaniliraga?No mu cyaro=
bali bahafite administration parallele puissante.Ni absurde kuba igihugu cy=
ali cyarafashwe gutyo abantu bagakomeza gushakira amakosa ubutegetsi n'abatu=
rage bacyo bali baraboshye amaboko n'amaguru nta kwitabara gushoboka.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14784" st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none" id=
=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14787"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14789" style=3D"color:=
rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Nakwanzura ngusaba kwibohora ugako=
resha esprit critique yawe n'urukundo rw'abanyarwanda bose badakwiye umurage=
mubi wo kugereranywa n'abo batandukanye cyane.Nta ba juifs bali mu Rwanda;n=
ta cyagereranywa na parti Nazi,cg regime Nazi;nta camps de concentrations cg=
chambres a gaz;nta SS,SD,Gestapo..etc;nta baganga,abacamanza,les industriel=
s qui prirent part au pillage...bose bubahiliza la politique du Reich.Kwihan=
dagaza ukimena umutwe ubaza ibibazo bigamije kwerekana parallelisme mu bwica=
nyi bwabaye mu Rwanda n'ubwakorewe les juifs bo muli Allemagne na Territoire=
s occupes , nsanga ali kuba umukozi wa FPR.Ahubwo ibili amambu parallelisme w=
ayibona hagati y'amarorerwa ya FPR n'aba Nazi.Urugero ni vision fprienne dia=
bolisante du hutu ou de tout opposant a  son mouvement yita interahamwe=
akaba yaramwangishije kw'isi yose ku buryokumufunga,kumuhagalikira ubuhungi=
ro,kumwica ali ugutabara isi.Ibikorwa bibi bya  FPR ntibibazwa  ku=
bera kuba yaratsinze intambara ikaba ali yo yandika amateka y'igihugu.Abasha=
kashatsi bahakana iyo version imposee par le vainqueur nta mafranga cg leta y=
abo bakorera ni ukwanga gusa ko ukuli guhonyorwa.Tubafasha iki?Turabarwanya a=
hubwo twigumanira za doutes ku bintu trivial.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yi=
v7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14791" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0=
);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Nshyigikiye ubushake bwo gutumiza abanyarwand=
a bagasasa inzobe.Ahubwo se muvandimwe watekereje kw'ishyaka FDU wavunikiye i=
gihe kitali gito, ukaba a humble democrat ukegera bagenzi bawe bahagaraliwe n=
a Bukeye  mukongera mugahuliza abayoboke hamwe inyuma ya Ingabire ukare=
ba ukuntu ibintu byihuta guhinduka mu Rwanda no mu karere k'ibiyaga  bi=
gali. Ziliya ngorwa zo mw'ishyamba wakomojeho ndagirango nkubwire n'agahinda=
kenshi ko mufite responsabilite politique et morale nibura.Bali barabaye ab=
a resistants none umwera wanyu w'amacakubili ubagezemo.Birababaje!!!</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14791" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14791=
" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Ugire amahoro y'I=
mana.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012269=
09_14791" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670=
1226909_14791" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
66701226909_14791" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">=
Thomas.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670122=
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p;:</span></b> Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikiganiro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri J=
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yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14934"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14936"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1466701226909_14938"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_14940"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701=
226909_14942"></div><blockquote id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701=
226909_14944" type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670=
1226909_14946"></div></blockquote></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1466701226909_14948"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701=
226909_14950">Muvandimwe Rushemeza,</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_14952"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1466701226909_14954"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1466701226909_14956">Aha rero uhandike uhashinge agati ko tuhatandukaniye b=
ikomeye. </div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_=
14958"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909=
_14960"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14962"=
>Nemera ko ubuyobozi bwa APR, kuko mu by'ukuri aribwo bwategekaga FPR, bufit=
e uruhare rukomeye mw'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi bari mu gihugu. Nyuma kandi u=
ko abanyabyumba bishwe urubozo, ntabwo nshidikanya na rimwe ko ari APR, nyum=
a byarakomeje igihugu cyose uretse ahari ahitwaga "Zone Turquoise", kugeza a=
ho itsembeye impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo, njye ntatinya kwita itsembabwoko r=
y'impunzi z'abahutu.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_14964">Vuga itsembabwoko nyarwanda ariko uhite uvuga abo yahitanye.</d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14966"><br clear=3D=
"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14968"></div><div i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14970">Ariko se muvandi? K=
o twari mu Rwanda muri 1994 twese, ni iki cyakuboshye kandi kikikuboshye git=
uma udahamya ukomeje ibyo wabonye ko n'ubutegetsi bw'ingoma ya Habyarimana, i=
taraguye amaze kwicwa, bufite nabwo uruhare rukomeye mw'itsembabwoko ry'abat=
utsi bari mu gihugu mbere ya 1994? </div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14972"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14974"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1466701226909_14976">Sinemera ko itsembabwoko ryateguwe mu nzira ya pl=
anification n'iyo ngoma. Nta planification yabaye, ku bwanjye nanabihamije m=
uri TPIR no mu nyandiko zindi bwite. Ariko kandi itsembabwoko ntirigomba pla=
nification ngo ryitwe itsembabwoko. Interahamwe zaramanutse amanywa ava, twa=
razibonye. Zari zifite kandi gitegeka. Iyo gitegeka kandi ni abambari b'ingo=
ma ya Habyarimana. </div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466=
701226909_14978"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146=
6701226909_14980"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226=
909_14982">Kuki utinya kuhagera ngo uhatoneke? Bigutwaye iki kandi byakiza b=
yinshi? Nako ngo ni chaos cyangwa ni FPR yari yihishe muri izo nterahamwe! A=
baziyoboraga se bamaze kubona ko ari infiltr=C3=A9s bakoze iki ngo bazisoban=
urire, maze nizanga bazirwanye? Gukekwaho ubwitso bw'inkotanyi ko bitari bya=
nditse ku gahanga, babibwirwaga n'iki?</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14984"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14986"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1466701226909_14988">Iwacu ni i Gitarama cya Ndiza, nkumenyesheje ko, mb=
ere ko abashakaga kwica abatutsi bakoresha imbunda, ngo hanaze abategetsi ba=
shyigikiye ubwicanyi, abarwanyaga ukwica abatutsi bitwaje imihoro barushaga i=
mbaraga abashakaga kwica abatutsi.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1466701226909_14990"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_14992"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1466701226909_14994">Uravuga ngo dusase inzobe, ndabyemera, nta n'igihe kubw=
anjye ntabihamagariye. Hari n'ibindi bibazo by'ingutu byatumye ubu turi impu=
nzi, tutanabuga rumwe, nituticara ngo tubiganireho, dufate imyanzuro ihamye,=
tugangahure ibigomba kugangahurwa. Ndakurahiye Imana y'i Rwanda, twicare mu=
ri general happiness turimo ubu, tuzirikana ariko ko tuzahera i Shyanga.&nbs=
p;</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14996"><br c=
lear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_14998"></di=
v><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15000">Ibibera mur=
i Kongo ubu aho impunzi nyarwanda ziraswa n'izindi mpunzi nyarwanda birabikw=
ereka. Ngo hari abanyapolitiki babatezeho amakiriro, nababwira iki?</div><di=
v id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15002"><br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15004"></div><div id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15006">Ntawe uboshye ushobora k=
ubohora undi. Turacyaboshye, turacyaboshywe n'abambari bamwe b'ingoma ya Hab=
yarimana, bihishe inyuma y'amashyaka amwe n'amwe, badashaka ko dusasa iyo nz=
obe nyine kuko uko turiho uku bitabangamiye. </div><div id=3D"yiv735111=
0540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15008"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15010"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15012">Ntawe tuzacira urubanza, ariko bemeye t=
ukavugana ibibazo byose imbonenkubone bituma tugeze aho kurasana turi impunz=
i, twavanamo inzira y'ukwibohora. Naho ubundi, kura inkoni.</div><div id=3D"=
yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15014"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15016"></div><div id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15018">Kabeho.</div><div id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15020">Nkiko Nsengimana</div><div id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15022"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15024">Le 21 juin 2016 =C3=A0 0=
7:16, rushemeza thomas <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15026" ymailto=3D"mailto:t_rush2003@yah=
oo.fr" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rush2003@yaho=
o.fr</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15028"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15030"></div><blockquote id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15032" type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15034"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1466701226909_15036" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:=
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ont-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_1503=
8">Kabeho nawe muvandi.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667=
01226909_15040"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466=
701226909_15042"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012269=
09_15044">Unyihanganire kuba ntaguhamagaye mw'izina ryawe kuko mbona utashat=
se ko ligaragara.Cyakora ndakeka no uli Bwana Nkiko .Niba ali wowe rero kome=
ra kandi ndagushimira ibi bibazo byiza umbajije.Kwihalira urubuga byo ndumva=
ntacyo byaba bitwaye kuko twese dusenyera ku mugozi umwe.Koko aliko byarush=
aho kuba byiza ibitekerezo bya benshi bibonetse niho umusaruro wagwira kandi=
ali mwiza.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_150=
46"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15=
048"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15050">D'=
abord kuba wemera inyito ya genocide nyarwanda biranshimishije kuko uku ni u=
kuli bamwe mu ba nyarwanda barwanya kubera inyungu za politiki.Biranumvikana=
kandi ko abapfuye bo mu moko yombi batiyishe.Muli iliya nyandiko yanjye nag=
ize ndende ku mpamvu zo kugerageza kuba clair bihagije , navuze ko FPR yishe=
abaturage bo mu bwoko bw'abahutu mu turere yali yarafashe ,yica abatutsi b'=
abagogwe,yica n'abahutu benshi cyane  mu turere twali mu maboko ya Leta=
y'u Rwanda nyuma yo guhanura indege y'umukuru w'igihugu.Na nyuma yaho uzi i=
byo FPR yakoze nkuko nanabisobanuye muli iliya comment yanjye.</div><div id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15052"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15054"></div><div id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15056">Ku rundi ruhande nasobanuye ko=
abaturage bamaze kubona ibibaye ntibashidikanije k'uwishe President wabo.Na=
bo bahise batangira guhiga abali baraketsweho ubwitso babanaga mu quartiers m=
alheureusement who happened to be majoritairement abo mu bwoko bw'abatutsi.A=
liko uzi ko n'abahutu bitaga ibyitso bishwe.Babazizaga kubakekaho ubugambany=
i gusa na none ikibabaje n'uko bakubiranyemo n'abana n'abakecuru nkuko FPR/K=
agame nayo yabigenzaga.Uransaba gusobanura neza abo bicanyi abo alibo.aha ng=
erageje kuba precis wakeka ko hali abo mpishira ali yo mpamvu ntanga icyifuz=
o cy'ibiganiro byimbitse abakiliho,bagize ibyo babona bagatanga umusanzu mu k=
ugaragaza abishoye mu bwicanyi abenshi baba bashaka gushyira ku gahanga ka L=
eta ya Habyarimana ni'iya Sindikubwabo.Icyo nahagararaho gusa ni uko Ihanurw=
a ry'indege ryakulikiwe na chaos.Yali inasanzwe mu by'ukuli igihugu cyali ki=
tagitegekwa muli sens yo gukontrola abaturage no kubarengera.Ulibuka imyigar=
agambyo,kubohoza,kudakora akazi ka Leta n'ibindi.Ibi kandi uzi ko byali inga=
ruka z'akajagali k'amashyaka menshi 'intambara yayogozaga igihugu cyose naho=
yali itaragera burya yali ihali ikonje.Wibuke nanone impuzi zirenga miliyon=
i zali mu mbago y'umujyi wa Kigali.Iyi Chaos FPR yayihinduye inka ikamwa.Ira=
cengera yica abo ishaka ba Gapyisi,baBucyana,ba Gatabazi.Nyuma y'iraswa ry'i=
ndege jyewe naguhamiliza ko ali FPR yayoboraga ubwicanyi muli Kigali ikoresh=
a ses infiltres.No kuli za barrieres habagamo abicanyi ba FPR alibo ngo baba=
ga bakaze mu gutunga agatoki abicwa.Hali n'andi mayeli FPR yakoreshaga kugir=
ango ubwicanyi bukomeze kandi bukwire hose.Enquete yimbitse na za temoignage=
s zitabogamye zishobora kuzabereka ibitangaza niziba nyine zibashije kubaho.=
</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15058"><br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15060"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15062">I=
kosa likorwa n'abitwa ko bahanganye na FPR/Kagame n'ugushaka positionnement p=
olitique mu buryo bwo kwibonekeza neza imbere y'amahanga bayafasha guhunga r=
esponsabilite criminelle et politique yo kuba balimitse le devil and his ang=
els who use their pitchforks to torment the rwandan souls for eternity.B<spa=
n id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15064" style=3D"color:r=
gb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px=
;">aliyibagiza situation chaotique igihugu cyali kimazemo iminsi yaje kunyuk=
a umukuru w'igihugu n'umukuru w'ingabo mu gihugu kilimo itambara bapfiliye l=
imwe,abasilikare n'abapolisi nta ntwaro bafite,bahanganye na RPF surarme et b=
ien prepare bati Leta yaliho igomba kubazwa ibitaragenze neza.Ibyo biroroshy=
e aliko nta shingiro bifite kuko na Leta yashyizweho mu ngorane zitoroshye n=
tacyo yashoboraga kugeraho kuko yali ifite umuze wo kubakirwa ku mucanga w'a=
shyaka menshi n'abaministri badafite experience ibyo byose ali l'ONU ibihamb=
iranya kugirango ihe chance RPF.Izi ni facts zitsinda abashahuye u Rwanda ku=
buryo utababwira ngo nibakore enquete kw'ihanurwa ry'indege nibyayikulikiye=
kuko ni aho haturuka responsability nyayo.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15066"><span id=3D"yiv73511105=
40yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15068" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;"><br clear=3D"non=
e" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15070"></span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15072"><sp=
an id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15074" style=3D"color:=
rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21p=
x;">Muli make les dignitaires du regime detruit kugira icyo ubashinja ni uku=
va ku muntu ukajya ku giti.Icyiza kugeza ubu ,Imana ntirenganya, byagaragaye=
ko nta responsabilite gouvernementale qui suppose la planification de ce fa=
meux genocide yabaye, a ce que je sache cfr Urukiko rwa Arusha.Tugomba gutah=
a twemye tudatanzeho ibitambo inzirakarengane.Kagame n'amabandi yakoreshe ng=
o abone iteme ryo gufata ubutegetsi nibo bagomba kuryozwa ishyano ryagwilili=
ye u Rwanda.Ibi kugirango bishoboke nimuze dusase inzobe twebwe abali mu Rwa=
nda icyo gihe baba abahutu cyangwa abatutsi,baba abakiga cyangwa abanyanduga=
,n'amashyaka ya politique na societe civile tuvugishe ukuli maze murebe ko b=
utazacya dutaha.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_15076"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667=
01226909_15078" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Arial, sans-serif=
;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15080"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7=
351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15082"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15084" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-fami=
ly:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;">Reka ndangize nsubira=
mo ko Umwicanyi umwe nakwita ruharwa ni FPR/Kagame avec au moins 90% du forf=
ait.Uwa kabili ni uruvangitirane rw'imbyiruko z'amashyaka n'abaturage batagi=
ra isoni ba bandi kw'isi hose baprofita le chaos bakishakira ibyo bajyaga bi=
fuza ntibabashe kubibona.Rwose ntugirengo nyobewe ko hali aba dignitaires &n=
bsp;nka ba Bourgs bashoboraga gukulikira abaturage mu bikorwa bibi mu rwego r=
wo kwikundisha.Sinyobewe ko hali abasilikare bake cyane bataye urugamba baki=
ha  mission yo kugira abo bica.Izi cases ni exceptions sinzitindaho kan=
di abatarahanwe bazatinda bahanwe.Icyo abanyarwanda bagomba kwilinda ni theo=
ry politique ya generation et culpabilisation collective yigisha ko ubwicany=
i bwateguwe n'inzego zinyuranye z'ubutegetsi bugashyirwa mu bikorwa n'abatur=
age nkuko Kagame n'abamwimitse babishaka kuko nibwo buryo bwonyine bwo kwiku=
raho icyaha.Mucyo twoye kuguma muli uwo mutego dushakisha kandi twamamaza uk=
uli.Niko kuzatwunga tukabasha guhangana n'umwanzi ukomezwa n'uko twishe amat=
eka yacu tugacikamo ibice.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15086"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1466701226909_15088" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351=
110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15090"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15092"><span id=3D"yiv7351=
110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15094" style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);=
font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;">Thomas.</spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_=
15096"><b id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15098" style=3D=
"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15100"></b></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv73=
51110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15102"><b id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15104" style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"=
>=C3=80 :</b><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_1=
5106" style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"> rushemeza thomas <<a r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_15108" ymailto=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rus...@yahoo.fr</a>> </span></div><=
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one" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15112"><br clear=3D"=
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</div></blockquote></div></div></div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15116"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15118"></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
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40yqt4565345637" id=3D"yiv7351110540yqt13417"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15120"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
466701226909_15122"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_=
15124"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15126"><div i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15128"><div id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15130" style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNe=
ue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13=
px;"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15132" style=3D=
"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_15134"><font id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667=
01226909_15136" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_15138"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667=
01226909_15140" style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Envoy=C3=A9 le :</span></b> Lund=
i 20 juin 2016 12h04<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1466701226909_15142"> <b id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_=
15144"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15146" style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [YouthDemocrats] Re: Ikig=
aniro cya Nahimana Thomas kuri Jefferson Public Radio<br clear=3D"none" id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15148"> </font> </div> <div id=
=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15150"><br clear=3D"none" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15152"><div id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15154"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15156"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146=
6701226909_15158">Rusheme!</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
66701226909_15160"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
466701226909_15162"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_15164">Nanze kugumya kwiharira urubuga ngo ndeke n'abandi bavuge ibite=
kerezo byabo. </div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670122=
6909_15166"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
26909_15168"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_1=
5170">Nanemeye inyito yawe ya jenoside nyarwanda, noneho se bishwe na nde ? A=
ha ntuhasobanura ngo uhatobore neza. Bariyishe se? La responsabilit=C3=A9 cr=
iminelle et politique ni iyande? FPR yonyine cyangwa hari abandi batinya gut=
obora kuvuga? Kuki bahishirwa, ubona twazabohora abanyarwanda n'u Rwanda tut=
abavuze ? Nibadahigama wumva inzira izaba iyihe? Ni iki nita kuba ingwate y'=
abicanyi. Ubutegetsi bwa FPR ni bubi ibi bidasubirwaho, ariko ntibivuga kugi=
ra abere abandi bicanyi! Cyangwa se kuri wowe nta bandi bicanyi?</div><div i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15172"><br clear=3D"none" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15174"></div><div id=3D"yi=
v7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15176">Aha hantu nitutahakanda, m=
usase bugari, hehe no gusubira iwacu.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15178"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15180"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1466701226909_15182">Kabeho.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1466701226909_15184"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226=
909_15186"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146670122=
6909_15188">Le 19 juin 2016 =C3=A0 02:51, rushemeza thomas <<a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" shape=3D"rect" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_151=
90" ymailto=3D"mailto:t_rus...@yahoo.fr" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
t_rus...@yahoo.fr">t_rus...@yahoo.fr</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br clea=
r=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15192"><br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15194"></div>=
</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15196"><div id=
=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15198"><span id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15200"></span></div><blockquote id=3D"y=
iv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15202" type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"=
yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15204"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15206" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:=
#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Gra=
nde, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
466701226909_15208"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_=
15210"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15212" style=3D=
"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,=
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv=
7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15214"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15216"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1466701226909_15218" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family=
:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;=
font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_152=
20"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15222"><div id=3D=
"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15224" style=3D"color:#000;bac=
kground-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ari=
al, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15226"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1466701226909_15228">Ndabaramukije Basangirangendo  mwese muteraniye k=
uli uru rubuga rwa YouthDemocrats.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15230"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1466701226909_15232"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1466701226909_15234"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15236">Ndamukije by'umwihaliko ba Bwana Mwisenez=
a E, Nkiko N.,J Nepo na Mugara E.kandi nshima ibitekerezo batugezaho kuli ki=
mwe mu bibazo byinshi abanyarwanda batavugaho rumwe.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15238"><br clear=3D"none" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15240"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15242">Mbere yo kubun=
ganira ndabanza kwisegura kuko ibibazo by'u Rwanda ubu byabaye inshobera ban=
yarwanda kubera intambara y'amagambo n'ibitekerezo byaranze amateka y'u Rwan=
da biyubakiye ku kinyoma,munyangire na ntacyoduhuliyeho itera umwiryane aho a=
banyarwanda bahuliye hose.Iyi ntambara inagaragalira mu magambo dukoresha.Tw=
itana amazina kugirango dupfobyane bityo twigizanyeyo:abajenosideri,abacikac=
umu,interahamwe,anciens dignitaires,abahagalitse genocide y'abatutsi,abayite=
guye n'abayishyize mu bikorwa,ababoshye,ababohora,ndumunyarwanda bivuga ko h=
ali utali we,ingengabitekerezo,..etc urutonde ni rurerure cyane.Iyi ntambara=
irakaze kandi iyoborerwa i Kigali.Hali igihe rero nitegereza nkabona duhuza=
gulika mu byo tutazi.Urugero n'uko tumarana uwazanye ijambo umucikacumu yiga=
ramiye.Ijambo rye kuli we nta mayobera kuko yalihaye contenu inagaragara mu b=
uzima bwa buli munsi.Umucikacumu muli lexicologie ya FPR ni umututsi.Yiswe a=
tyo,anateganyilizwa n'impozamalira y'ubwoko bwose,ibyo murabizi.Kujya impaka=
zubaka kuli ili jambo n'andi magambo ajijisha,abanyarwanda batavugaho rumwe=
birasaba ko abanyarwanda babona ko ntaho bazagera nibakomeza iyi ntambara u=
retse kuzashira.Ni ngombwa ko habaho ibiganiro bizavanaho urujijo ruterwa no=
kutavuga rumwe ku byatubayeho dushingiye ku kuli,ukuli konyine.Iyi yali nka=
introduction n'ubwo ali ndende bwose.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv735111=
0540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15244">Igitekerezo cyanjye kuli iyi conc=
ept y'umucikacumu w'umunyarwanda,ihuye n'iya abavuga ko umunyarwanda wese wa=
li mu Rwanda kuva muli 90 ukiliho cyangwa witabye Imana azize urw'ikirago n'=
umucikacumu w' intambara ya FPR n'ubwicanyi bwayo bwibasiye cyane cyane abah=
utu n'ubwabaye aho FPR yali itaragera  bwibasiye abatutsi n'abahutu bis=
we abagambanyi.Ndakoresha ijambo cyane cyane kuko hali n'aho FPR yishe abatu=
tsi igamije kubyegeka kuli Leta yarwanyaga ,urugero rukunze gutangwa ni urw'=
abatutsi b'abagogwe.K'umuntu wali mu Rwanda udashaka kugoreka amateka mu nyu=
ngu za politiki azi ibyabereye mu turere twaberagamo intambara ibyinshi bira=
nditse.Abali batuye utwo turere bateranilijwe  hamwe baraswa urufaya ku=
buryo hali n'abo Kagame yirasiye ubwe;abandi batezwe za mines;abandi bicish=
wa udufuni n'utundonyi;abandi baraswa umugenda kugera mu marembo ya Kigali a=
ho benshi batikiliye bishwe n'imibereho mibi n'indwara z'ibyorezo.Abarokotse=
nta gushidikanya n'abacikacumu.Ni n'abacikacumu bya nyabyo kuko abansnhi nt=
ibagize ayo mahirwe.Urugero ni Byumba yali yabaruwemo abaturage barenga 900.=
000 nyuma y'intambara hakaboneka abagera kuli 150.000.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15246"> I Kigali na=
ho aho indege y'Umukuru w'Igihugu irasiwe,hadutse ubwicanyi bwakozwe n'abatu=
rage barakajwe n'ububisha bwa FPR yagaragaje igitera igihugu muli 90 kugeza a=
ho iciye umutwe w'ubutegetsi bw'igihugu cyabo.Mu by'ukuli kwali ukwitabara u=
ko bashoboye bya gikene kuko ntibashidikanyaga ko alibo batahiwe.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15248"><br cle=
ar=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15250"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15252">K=
u rundi ruhande FPR nayo yalicaga ikoresheje les inflitres bageraga ku bihum=
bi icumi cyangwa birenga.Uwali i Kigali ntiyashidikanya kuko umujyi wali war=
ahindutse, wagirango ni amahanga.Abasikare ba RPF balimo ba kavukire b'i Kig=
ali n'utundi turere baragaragara mu mujyi hatali muli CND.Wababaza icyo bako=
ra bati ntimwasinye se amasezerano y'amahoro?Abandi twalitubatunze nk'ababoy=
i tutabazi.Abandi bali barakinguye ama bars alimo abatagire banywera bataha a=
basilikare ba FPR bakaza kurara inkera.Ntumbaze icyo ba maneko bakoraga ntar=
akalira isi.Aba bose bishoye mu bwicanyi muli za quartiers zose z'umujyi wa K=
igali.No mu cyaro ahali administration parallele ya FPR, les inflitres bali b=
ahali ibyo bakoze nabyo bizamenyekana.Ibi byose birabagaragaliza ko ubwicany=
i bwabaye bwakozwe bwali bwibasiye abanyarwanda bose alicyo gituma abavugish=
a ukuli babwise genocide rwandais.Kagame arwanya iyi nyito kwali ukwikingira=
ikibaba ngo igihe nikigera atazaba ali we uyigerekwaho kubera ko yashoje in=
tambara n'akavuyo kashiliyemo imbaga y'abanyarwanda.Arakorera ubusa aliko ig=
ihe kizagera ikimwaro kimukore kimwe n'abagerageza guscoringa inyungu za pol=
itiki bamufasha kugoreka amateka  y'u Rwanda.Aha byumvikane neza gukome=
za kuvuga ngo genocide n'iyakorewe abatutsi bonyine,ngo yateguwe na Habyarim=
ana abifashijwemo n'inzego za politiki n'iza societe civile cyane cyane amad=
ini, mu gihugu cyose bigomba kuba bitagifite isoko kuko urukiko rukomeye mpu=
zamahanga ngirango nta planification nk'iyo rwabonye.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15254"><br clear=3D"none" i=
d=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15256"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15258">Ikibabaje n'i i=
nzirakarangane zapfuye kandi n'ubu zigipfa zizize icyo zilicyo.Zapfiliye mu R=
wanda,mu mahanga cyane cyane mu nkambi no mu mashyamba ya Congo,Gisangani,Ti=
ngitingi,tutibagiwe abaguye i Kibeho(1995) ,Ruhengeli ,Gisenyi na Kigali Nga=
li(1998).Abahanga bakoze ubushakashatsi bemeza ko uruhare rwa Kagame mu bwic=
anyi bw'abanyarwanda rutagereranywa.Niho mpera nibaza abahakana inyito ya ge=
nocide rwandais aho babihera.Niho mpera nibaza aho abahakana ko buli munyarw=
anda wese ali umucikacumu mu gihe ntarumva hali uhakana imvugo ko nta munyar=
wanda utarakozwe mu inda na kiliya kiza cy'intambara. Mu by'ukuli na bali ha=
nze mu kazi ka Leta cyangwa mu mashuli n'abacikacumu kuko iyo baza kuba bali=
mu Rwanda wenda nibo ryali guheraho.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351110=
540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15260"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv735111=
0540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15262"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7=
351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15264">Mumbabalire comment yabaye n=
dende.Nageragezaga gusobanura nk'umuntu wali utuye i Kigali aho narusimbutse=
inshuro enye zose zilimo amasasu,amabombe,n'ibindi.Ntabaye umucikacumu nind=
e waba we.Imirambo irenga 200  twabyutse tugasanga yuzeye uduhanda twa q=
uartier twali dutuyemo bishwe nande iali RPF.Abazi i Remera za Kicukiro muza=
babaze abahutu bahatikiliye uko bangana.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7351=
110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15266"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv735=
1110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15268"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y=
iv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15270">Reka ndangilize ku giteke=
rezo cya mucuti wanjye  Nkiko ntagutererana amagambo aliko.Ndakeka ko y=
ibeshya kubo yita ababoshye n,abababoshye.Abanyarwanda uzasanga babohotse mu=
mitwe kuko n'ubwo bicecekeye bazi ibyababayeho n'ibisubizo by'ibibazo byabi=
teye.Ni koko Kagame agerageza kubaboha aliko burya baramuhema iyo arebye hir=
ya.Bashatse bamwibutsa ko 59 yabaye nyuma y'icurabulindi bamazemo imyaka ire=
nga 400,yaje nk'umurabyo abali barababoshye  ntibasobanukirwa.Ku bwanjy=
e abo mbona baboshye nabi kandi bikomeye n'abagenda ingendo ya Kagame,bagasu=
biramo imvugo ye nka gasuku,bakerekana ko icyo bapfa na we kidakomeye cyane k=
uko batakoze genocide y'abatutsi kandi ko bayemera.Aba navuga ko baniboha ku=
ko abenshi bali kure ya Kagame mu bilometero birenga 8000 ,bakaba baragize i=
gihe gihagije cyo gushakisha no kumenya ukuli aliko bagahitamo kukwirengagiz=
a bakeka ko alibwo buryo bwiza bwo kuzagera ku butegetsi bitabagoye(racourci=
politique).Kuvuga ko hali abandi baboshye abantu abo nkeka bavugwa bakaba a=
li aba dignitaires b'ingoma ya Habyarimana mbona ali ugushinyagura.None se a=
bafunze ,abafunze kinwa ngo barebe ko baramuka badatawe muli yombi baboha ab=
antu bishyira bakizana bate?Ahubwo kwa kuli ngo guca mu ziko ntigushye niko k=
ubera ibamba abanyapolitiki bameze nka ba Bamporiki kandi nibo basabasa baha=
we rugali n'itoteza mpuzamahanga ry'ibisigisi by'aba leaders ba regime yatsi=
nzwe mu rwego rwo gushyigikira Kagame.Kwibohora n'ukwanga ikinyoma cyacuzwe c=
yikanamamazwa na RPF/Kagame n'abamushyize ku ntebe.Aba bigobotoye Kagame yah=
ita atsindwa maze amahoro n'amahirwe bigataha i Rwanda aho abacikacumu twese=
twazabana akaramata mu mahoro no mu bwumvikane.Aliko ubundi ayo magambo y'a=
bazungu na invasion yabo mu buzima bwacu tubyemerera iki,niba nta zindi nyun=
gu zibyihishe inyuma?Mu mateka y'u Rwanda ndetse n'ibindi bihugu abantu bagi=
raga icyo bapfa bararwanaga bagakiranurwa n'uko babonye umuti w'ikibazo.Aya m=
ajyambere yo gukoresha genocide mbona nka virus ya sida bateye imibanire y'a=
banyarwanda.Njyewe ndayamaganye kandi sinkina.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y=
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"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15376"><span id=3D"yiv73511105=
40yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15378">Mukomere NN.</span><div id=3D"yiv73=
51110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15380"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv7=
351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15382"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15384"><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1466701226909_15386"><span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012269=
09_15388">Njye ndabisubiramo kandi mbishimangira. Umunyarwanda wese aho ava a=
kagera ni umucikacumu. Yaba yarabaga  hanze cg mu Rwanda, niba atararok=
otse ubwicanyi bw'interahamwe yarokotse ubwicanyi bw'inkotanyi. </span>=
</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15390"><br cle=
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<div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15394">Nashishwe cya=
ne n'iyi mvugo yawe aho ugira uti: <span id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1466701226909_15396">"Umucikacumu ni umwere. Uwishe wese aho ava akag=
era ni umwicanyi, ntashobora na rimwe kuba umucikacumu".</span></div><div id=
=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15398"><div id=3D"yiv735111=
0540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15400"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yiv73511=
10540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15402"></div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15404">Byanyibukije ko inzira ikiri ndende kub=
era ko bene iyi mvugo isa nishyira igorora abacikacumu-bicanyi ba RPF cyane c=
yane ko tugenekereje twasanga iyi mvugo yawe iganisha ku yindi mvugo igira i=
ti: "Umucikacumu ni umwere. Uwarokotse (genocide yakorewe abatutsi) wese ni u=
mucikacumu, ntashobora na rimwe kuba umwicanyi."</div><div id=3D"yiv73511105=
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3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15410">Wibuke ko ibi bintu aribyo Kagame buri gi=
he yireguza, avuga ko nta mucikacumu wishe cg ko kwica interahamwe n'abana b=
azo nta kibi kirimo.</div><div id=3D"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14667012=
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15416">Ni nayo mpamvu buriya bwicanyi bwa RPF bugikomeza kuva muri 1990 mu R=
da no muri 1996 muri Congo kugeza uyu munsi amahanga akomeje kubwirengagiza.=
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he kandi kubera ko bamwe mu banyapolitiki bacu bakagombye gusobanurira ayo m=
ahanga uko ibintu byifashe basa n'abakiri mu gihirahiro.</div><div id=3D"yiv=
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"yiv7351110540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466701226909_15440">Pour votre info:</div><=
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