INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA.

[Nkiko]

http://inkubiri.org/index.php/sw/amakuru/amatangazo/243-inzitizi-zo-kwibohora

[Nzinink]

Mukomere.
Hakenewe ingamba zifatika zigagaragaza uburyo ibintu byakorwa, cyane cyane ko iryagaragaye ritaba rikishe isuka.
Kugeza ibyo mbona/numva nsanga ari amagambo gusa.

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[Umunsi]

Muvandimwe undeke ngusubize birambuye.

Ijambo ni ikintu gikomeye. Nyogosenge arakuvuma bigahama. Aya madini turimo ni ijambo, mbere ya byose. Kugira ijambo ni cyo gikorwa cya mbere gikomeye.

Nkubwire rero.
Igihe cyose ijambo ry'abavuga ko barwanya Kagame ritari ryasumbya uburemere irye, ikizakorwa cyose kizaba imfabusa. Ijambo duhagazeho bibaye ngombwa twapfira cyangwa abana bacu baducungurira ni irihe? Twe mu Nkubiri twongeye kubihamya mw'ijambo ry'umuyobozi wayo. Ndisubiremo muri make. Ni :
1. Ubudahangarwa rw'ubuzima bwa buri munyarwanda, kirazira kubutatira.
2. Ni ugushyira imbere ubumuntu bwacu n'ubunyarwanda, mbere y'ubututsi, ubutwa, ubuhutu bwacu, cyangwa se ubunyenduga n'ubukiga bwacu.
3. Ni ukurwanya ivangura iryo ari ryose kuko ariryo ritugejeje aha.
4. Ni ukwemera amahano twaguyemo ya jenoside y'abatutsi bari mu gihugu n'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo.
5. Ni ukwemera kandi tugahamya uruhare rukomeye ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame zirufitemo kandi abayoboye cyangwa bashyigikiye ayo mahano bakabihanirwa.
6. Ni igihugu kirengera abanyarwanda bose bikagaragara cyane mu nzego z'ubutegetsi n'umutekano.
7. Ni amajyambere asangiwe.

Ngiryo ijambo abagize Mouvement national Inkubiri dushaka gusangira n'abemera ibirikubiyemo.

Abazishyirahamwe badasangiye ijambo, nta ntera bazashobora gutera yo kubohora u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda no kubazanira amizero. Kuko ijambo niryo rikuri. Igikorwa cyose bazatangira batarisangiye bya nyabyo, bazarasana badateye kabiri.

Urugero. FDRL yashyize imbere ibikorwa itanakoze, ibishyira imbere y'ijambo, reba aho igeze. Kuva 1998 ishingwa, wambwira uti dore igikorwa cy'ingenzi cyayo? Ariko abashaka ibyihuta barayiramya. Njye kuva yashingwa sinigeze nkeka ko hari icyo izatugezaho. Sinahinduye igitekerezo ko nziko ishingiye ku musenyi, nta jambo rurema.

Hari abandi maze iminsi numva, ngo barafatanije muri za platform, wagishaka icyo bafatanije ukacyibura, uretse kurwanya Kagame, uretse ibi byo guhekana, bakeka ko ari bo bazambuka mbere, bagata mu ruzi ubahetse. Kurwanya Kagame di ijambo shingiro wakwubakiraho igikorwa. Va ku giti, dore umuntu. Mbese uwumva wumvise?

Twe mu Nkubiri twaritangaje, duhamya turanguruye ko abasangiye ijambo rizarenga irya Kagame, aribo bazafatanya nyabyo kandi bazabona imbaraga n'urubuga rwo kurengera abanyarwanda. Biravuga ko, mbere yo kugera aho, hari inzira ngombwa yo gushinga fondasiyo cyangwa urubariro rwa koma opozisiyo igomba kunyuramo : kwiyubaka no gushyira hamwe bashingiye kw'ijambo ntekerezorurema. Biraka gusasa inzobe tugakanda igisebe kigashiramo amashyira (recomposition de l'opposition sur une base de partage ideologique et de projet politique). Ni yo nzira. Ibindi ni ugushaka kwinezereza ko aho turi ari wo munezero (general happiness).
Mbe uwumva Ko wumvise, wumvise iki?

Gira ijambo.

Nkiko Nsengimana

[Umunsi]

> Muvandimwe undeke ngusubize birambuye.
>
> Ijambo ni ikintu gikomeye. Nyogosenge arakuvuma bigahama. Aya madini turimo ni ijambo, mbere ya byose. Kugira ijambo ni cyo gikorwa cya mbere gikomeye.
>
> Nkubwire rero.
> Igihe cyose ijambo ry'abavuga ko barwanya Kagame ritari ryasumbya uburemere irye, ikizakorwa cyose kizaba imfabusa. Ijambo duhagazeho bibaye ngombwa twapfira cyangwa abana bacu baducungurira ni irihe? Twe mu Nkubiri twongeye kubihamya mw'ijambo ry'umuyobozi wayo. Ndisubiremo muri make. Ni :
> 1. Ubudahangarwa rw'ubuzima bwa buri munyarwanda, kirazira kubutatira.
> 2. Ni ugushyira imbere ubumuntu bwacu n'ubunyarwanda, mbere y'ubututsi, ubutwa, ubuhutu bwacu, cyangwa se ubunyenduga n'ubukiga bwacu.
> 3. Ni ukurwanya ivangura iryo ari ryose kuko ariryo ritugejeje aha.
> 4. Ni ukwemera amahano twaguyemo ya jenoside y'abatutsi bari mu gihugu n'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo.
> 5. Ni ukwemera kandi tugahamya uruhare rukomeye ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame zirufitemo kandi abayoboye cyangwa bashyigikiye ayo mahano bakabihanirwa.
> 6. Ni igihugu kirengera abanyarwanda bose bikagaragara cyane mu nzego z'ubutegetsi n'umutekano.
> 7. Ni amajyambere asangiwe.
>
> Ngiryo ijambo abagize Mouvement national Inkubiri dushaka gusangira n'abemera ibirikubiyemo.
>
> Abazishyirahamwe badasangiye ijambo, nta ntera bazashobora gutera yo kubohora u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda no kubazanira amizero. Kuko ijambo niryo rikuri. Igikorwa cyose bazatangira batarisangiye bya nyabyo, bazarasana badateye kabiri.
>
> Urugero. FDRL yashyize imbere ibikorwa itanakoze, ibishyira imbere y'ijambo, reba aho igeze. Kuva 1998 ishingwa, wambwira uti dore igikorwa cy'ingenzi cyayo? Ariko abashaka ibyihuta barayiramya. Njye kuva yashingwa sinigeze nkeka ko hari icyo izatugezaho. Sinahinduye igitekerezo ko nziko ishingiye ku musenyi, nta jambo rurema.
>

> Hari abandi maze iminsi numva, ngo barafatanije muri za platform, wagishaka icyo bafatanije ukacyibura, uretse kurwanya Kagame, uretse ibi byo guhekana, bakeka ko ari bo bazambuka mbere, bagata mu ruzi ubahetse. Kurwanya Kagame si ijambo shingiro wakwubakiraho igikorwa. Va ku giti, dore umuntu. Mbese uwumva wumvise?

[Nzinink]

Komera.

Ndabona usa nuwanyumvise nabi.

Navuze ko kugeza ubu ibyo mbona/numvana abanyapoliki bacu ari amagambo gusa. Amagambo atagira ibikorwa sinzi niba ariyo tuzahoramo. Igihe cyararenze ko dushyira mubikorwa ibyo twirirwa tuvuga. Niba tutabishoboye twagombywe kwerura tukabitangariza abanyarwanda bityo bakamenya inzira ikiri ndende.  

Ziriya ngingo uvuga ko arizo mushyize imbere mu Nkubiri nasanze inyinshi murizo zidatandukanye n’amahame-remezo ya FDU-Inkingi, uretse ingingo ya 4 n’iya 5 (reba hasi). Ibi cyokora ntacyo byishe kubera ko bigaragaza ko ibiduhuza aribyo byinshi kurusha ibidutandukanya. Imana ishimwe.

Ku ngingo ya 4 uragira uti: “Kwemera amahano twaguyemo ya jenoside y'abatutsi bari mu gihugu n'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo”. 

Iyi ngingo isa n’ishaka kujijisha abanyarwanda n’amahanga ibumvisha ko nta muhutu wigeze wicirwa mu Rda mbere ya jenoside, muri jenoside, na nyuma ya jenoside.

Niba koko ari uko mu Nkubiri mubibona byaba bibabaje cyane. Ushobora cyokora kuba ntabyo uzi kubera ko aho ukomoka mu Rda nta bwicanyi bwibasiye abahutu wigeze uhabona. Njye aho nkomoka, i Byumba, ubwicanyi bwibasiye abahutu bwatangiye muri 1990 bugeza muri 2000. Igitangaje ahubwo ni uko muri Byumba ubwicanyi bwibasiye “abatutsi bari mu Rwanda” bwari mbarwa. Ibi na Kagame ubwe yigeze kubyivugira ubwo yasuraga Komini Giti. 

Kuvuga rero ko mu Nkubiri mwemera gusa “jenoside y’abatutsi bari mu gihugu n’impunzi z’abahutu muri Kongo” ni ukugoreka amateka yacu nkana, mubizi kandi mubishaka. 

Ku ngingo ya 5 uragira uti: “Kwemera kandi tugahamya uruhare rukomeye ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame [zifite muri ayo mahano] kandi abayoboye cyangwa abashyigikiye ayo mahano bakabihanirwa”.

Ibi nabyo nta gishya kirimo.

Aho ntemeranya nawe ni uko mbona amateka asa nk’aho ntacyo yatwigishize. Ahantu hose bene ariya mahano yabaye nta nahamwe bitabaje ubutabera bugamije kwihorera (retributive justice). Mbyiruka natojwe ko nkoni idaca ingeso, ko kwihorera bitanya abantu aho kubunga.

Ikibazo nyamukuru abanyarwanda dufite (kandi n’abazungu barabizi) ni uko abanyarwanda hafi ya bose bazahora bicuza ingoma ya Habyara. Iri ni uhurizo rikomereye ba mpatsibihugu kubera ko batumva impamvu imitwe y’abanyarwanda isa n’idanangiye.

Ahantu hose ba mpatsibihugu bateje akuduruvayo byaratinze ariko bigeze aho birashyira birataha, abaturage biyemeza ko agakiza kari imbere ko rero nta mpamvu yo kuba imbohe z’amateka, none amahoro arambye n’iterambere risaranganjwe birahinda, mu gihe mu Rda tukiri mu gihirahiro.

Ingero ni nyinshi: Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Mozambique, South Africa, Argentina, Guatemala, etc.

Umwanzuro:

Igihe cyose ishyaka iri n’iri ritazahuza gahunda yaryo n’imiterere ya politiki kw’isi no mu karere, igihe cyose ishyaka iri n’iri ishyaka ritazegera abanyarwanda aho bari hose ngo ribasobanurire amahame-remezo yaryo, bityo barebere hamwe buryo ki bataheranwa n’amateka ahubwo bakarushaho kwishakamo ibisduibizo by’ejo heza hazaza bahuze imvugo n’ingiro, abanyarwanda twese tuzahora mu gihirahiro.

Gira amahoro.  

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[Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA]

J'adore les débats  documentés ! C'est pour cela que je reviens sur certains points relatés dans ce long message du président d'Inkubiri !

Nagira ngo ababizi badufashe kumenya ukuri, by'uko ngo dès le départ, abalideri ba MDR PARMEHUTU bakomoka mu Rukiga no muri Est, batumvaga kimwe n'abalideri bo mu Nduga kubyerekeye imicungire ya republika. Iki kintu nibwo bwa mbere nacyumva mu buzima bwanjye !

Ngizo hasi extraits mvanye muriyo nyandiko ye ndende :

Mu gihe ahandi mu gihugu bumvaga igisobanuro cya Revolisiyo na Repubulika ari uburinganire bw’Abenegihugu muri Répubulika imwe (égalitédans une république unitaire),mu majyaruguru y’uburasirazuba bw’U Rwanda, abakonde, ari na bo bari kw’isonga ry’Abarwanashyaka b’imena bo muri izo ntara, bumvaga ari Revolisiyo na Repubulika ari ukwirukana Abayobozi ba Cyami baturukaga ahandi noneho bakagarura ubuyobozi bushingiye ku miryango bwahozeho muri ako gace mbere y’ 1916, Abazungu batarafasha Musinga kwigarurira intara zo mu majyaruguru y’uburasirazuba.

 

Abari kw’isonga rya Revolisiyo yo muri 59, iyo révolisiyo akaba ari yo shingiro rya Repubulika, harimo Abanyenduga n’Abakiga kandi bose bari bafite ijambo. Ariko muri rusange aba lideri b’Abanyenduga n’aba Bakiga ntibari bafite imyumvire ihuye neza kuri iyo Repubulika bose baharaniye. 

Gukora Revolisiyo uharanira kubohoza Rubanda warangiza ugahita ukomeza gushyigikira ibintu bimeze nk’ubuhake, witwaje umuco, ari ukugira ngo wigwizeho umutungo, ni ugutatira Revolisiyo na Repubulika. Iyo mikorere y’Abakonde bo mu majyaruguru bari kw’isonga mu butegetsi, imikorere yasaga nkay’igihugu kigendera ku mategeko nk’aya « fedération » kandi ari « Etat unitaire »  yamunze Repubulika, inakomeza gutera ibibazo n’akabazo mu buyobozi bw’inzego za Leta. Urugero ni nk’iburizwamo n’Inteko Ishingamategeko ry’itegeko rigena imiterere n’imikoreshereze y’ubutaka mu Rwanda (Réforme foncière) ryagombaga guhita ritorwa muri mandat ya mbere. Abakonde bo muri gouvernement no mu Nteko bakomokaga mu Majyaruguru babyitambitsemo, baburizamo iryo tegeko, kuko batifuzaga kugabana amasambu n’abagererwa babo.

yo ngeso mbi yo gushaka kwigwizaho imitungo mu gihe Prezida Kayibanda yashishikarizaga Leta n’Abanyarwanda kwizirika umukanda (politique de l’austérié), kuko nyuma ya indepandasi nta mikoro yari ahari, yagiye ikura ifata n’abarwanashyaka b’imena n’abandi bayobozi bakuru b’igihugu ku buryo yabaye intadaro ya  Raporo ya Komisiyo y’Ubugenzuzi y’Inteko Nkuru y’amategeko yo muri 68, raporo yaje gukurikirwa n’ikiswe « guta umurongo ». Muri 68 ni na bwo kandi coup d’état ya mbere yaburiyemo.

Conclusion ye iti : Iyo ngeso mbi yo gushaka kwigwizaho imitungo mu gihe Prezida Kayibanda yashishikarizaga Leta n’Abanyarwanda kwizirika umukanda (politique de l’austérié), kuko nyuma ya indepandasi nta mikoro yari ahari, yagiye ikura ifata n’abarwanashyaka b’imena n’abandi bayobozi bakuru b’igihugu ku buryo yabaye intadaro ya  Raporo ya Komisiyo y’Ubugenzuzi y’Inteko Nkuru y’amategeko yo muri 68, raporo yaje gukurikirwa n’ikiswe « guta umurongo ». Muri 68 ni na bwo kandi coup d’état ya mbere yaburiyemo. 

Rwose ababa bari mieux informés batubwire niba koko ari aha ikibazo cyo guta umurongo cyavuye, kuko ndabona buri wese agisobanura akurikije amarangamutima ye, kandi ibyo sibyo bikenewe.

1) Ati abalideri ba PARMEHUTU  bakomoka mu "majyaruguru y'uburasirazuba = Nord-Est" Bashyigikiye ubukonde bashaka gukomeza kwitwara nkabo ku goma bari bamaze guhirika. Aha j'aurais aimé qu'il soit plus clair et précis, akavuga mu mazina amapréfécture abo balideri bakomokagamo. Aliko kuberako muri rusange akomeza yatura ashaka kwerekana ko dès le début de la fondation de la république, n'icyo gihe déjà ngo hari différence y'imyumvire ya républika n'icungwa ryayo, hagati yabo yita Abakiga n'Abanyenduga, ndamera nkukora généralisation numve ko nubundi abo balideri ba PARMEHUTU bakomokaga muri Nord-Est ari abo Bakiga nyine, bivuga ko ari abakomoka ku Gisenyi, mu Ruhengeri, na Byumba.

2) Abalideri bakomokaga ku Gisenyi, baharaniye  republika guhera mbere ya 1959 abo nibuka kandi navuga ko namenye hari : Banzi, Habamenshi, Nzabonimpa. 

3) Abalideri bakomokaga mu Ruhengeri baharaniye republika guhera mbere ya 1959 , abo nibuka ni Bicamumpaka, Mpakaniye, Munyarugerero, Rusingizandekwe, Ntakayobazi

4) Abalideri bakomokaga i Byumba, baharaniye republika guhera mbere ya 1959 nibuka, bo ntabwo nzi neza niba koko baratangiye mbere ya 1959, hari Kalinijabo, Cyimana (agomba kuba yaraje nyuma kuko yabanje kwiga hanze).

Aha ndibutsa ko mubo bita abalideri ba republika, harimo ibice bibiri :  

- Hari abaharaniye impinduka guhera muri za 1950, barakora, barahirimbana kugeza révolution ya 1959 ibaye, kuzageza le 01/07/1962

- Hari abaje nyuma, bahawe imyanya mu butegetsi, akenshi bashatswe nabo nyine baharaniye impinduka kugera kuri révolution ya 1959. Babinjije mu myanya yubutegetsi, aliko batarahirimbanye. Abo ni nabo benshi, kuko par exemple au fur et à mesure ko hari ababaga barangije amashuri, dont quelques universitaires, hagati ya za 1960 et 1967, baratahaga bagahabwa iyo myanya. Hari abagénéraliza nabo bakabita abalideri, hari nababita "abajenyuma".

Ubwo bukonde rero prezida w'Inkubiri avuga, bw'uko ngo bari bikubiye amasambu bashaka kuyagundira ntibayagabane nabaturage basanzwe babagererwa, mu balideri bakomoka mu Ruhengeri kuko bo mbazi neza, ntabwariho ! Yaba Bicamumpaka, yaba Mpakaniye, yaba Rusingizandekwe, dore ko aribo bari abalideri bibanze (parmi tant d'autres) mu Ruhengeri icyo gihe, nta bikingi by'amasambu y'ubukonde bagiraga. C'est une vérité incontestable et c'est très vérifiable.

Mais ! Mais ! : Bari bakize byo ni byo. Kubera imirimo bakoraga. Icyo gihe ifaranga ry'u Rwanda ryagenderaga ku ifaranga ry'ababiligi, ryari rifite un grand pouvoir d'achat, kandi imishahara y'abarimu b'icyo gihe nubwo itareshyaga niyabarimu bababiligi, aliko yaragerereranwaga . Niyo mpamvu abari bafite akazi icyo gihe bari batunze, batuye neza rwose, même avant 1959 ! Et bien évidemment, iyo mishahara yabo yatumaga bagura imirima myinshi bafite namatungo yo mu rugo, ibyo byose bikiyongera ku bukire bwabo. Ntabwo rero kugira isambu waguze ukoresheje amafranga wahembwe kubera akazi ukora, wabyita kugira ibikingi by'ubukonde, no gukandamiza abandi baturage. 

A) Aha rero nkibaza nti, ibyo bikingi byo mu Ruhengeri bitari bifitwe na Bicamumpaka, ntibigirwe na Mpakaniye, ntibigirwe na Rusingizandekwe alors que we icyo gihe yanakoraga kmu bya douane, undi warubifite ni nde ? 

B) Nonese niba abo balideri bo mu rukiga avuga ko bari bashyigikiye ubukonde no kwigwizaho imitungo, prezida w'Inkubiri akaba nawe yemeza ko rapport ijyanye n'ibyo kurwanya iyo ngeso yigiwe mu Nteko Ishinga Amategeko yayoborwaga na Bicamumpaka wo mu Rukiga, uyu Bicamumpaka wagombye kuba yarafite ibikingi byubukonde (selon l'analyse de Ndahayo) yari gushyigikira ate ko iyo rapport yigwa kandi yari kumugonga we na bagenzi be babalideri bo muri Nord ? 

C) Nonese niba abalideri bakomoka mu Nduga bari bafite imyumvire y'icungwa rya republika ritandukanye niryabo mu Rukiga, Bagashyigikira amahame ya président Kayibanda yo kurengera rubanda rugufi nta gusahura, kuki iyo rapport yagaragazaga izo nenge, abashakaga ko yiga batabonye soutien yabo balideri bose bo mu Nduga ngo bikorwe, ahubwo bakabihinduramo ibyo guta umurongo ? pPour s'autoprotéger ???? 

AHA HARI CONTRADICTION NINI CYANE !!!!

Ibikingi by'ubukonde mu Ruhengeri ntabyari bihari, du moins nta balideri baho bigeze babigira. 

De plus, mu mateka ya Ruhengeri birazwi ko kuva kera ako  karere kagiye kabyara abantu babanyabutwari bagaragaje kuva kera ko badashaka guhakwa n'ingoma y'abatutsi, ngo babagire abaja babo. Akaba ari nayo mpamvu iyo ngoma itigeze ihashinga imizi ngo iharambe nko mutundi duce tumwe tw'u Rwanda. Munyumve neza sinshatse kuvuga ko ahandi nta banyabutwari bahavutse! Bityo rero, nyuma y'ihirikwa ry'iyo ngoma, abo balideri bo mu Mulera par exemple, ntibari kwigarurira amasambu n'imitungo yabatutsi bari kuba bariganje murako karere, ubwo bari kuba bamaze guhunga révolution ya 1959. C'EST IMPOSSIBLE !!!  

Ikindi kibazo : Abanyapolitiki bakomokaga mu Rukiga bari muri gouvernement no muri Assemblée Nationale icyo gihe, ni gute batumye itegeko ryerekeranye na réforme foncière ridahita, kandi batari majoritaire ? 

- Nanone kandi, ibi byose bihuriyehe n'iyo coup d'état yari igiye gukorwa muri 1968 ? Yari commandité par qui ? Est-ce que nayo yari ifitanye isano n'ibyo bikingi by'ubukonde by'abalideri bakomoka mu Rukiga ? Amateka araryoha, ubifiteho information yazitugezaho.

Umwanzuro nuko hari des faits zabaye kuri republika ya mbere, nkibyo nyine by'iyo rapport no guta umurongo kwakurikiyeho, nk'ibyo gushaka guhindura itegeko nshinga. Mais, ibisobanuro kurizo faits, usanga (si akenshi,ni buri gihe ) kubabitanga, amarangamutima aganza objectivité, buri wese agashaka kurengera uyu cyangwa se uriya, no gushaka kujustifia ikikorwa iki niki cyakozwe, igihe hari abakinenga kandi biri fondée, kuko baba  banagaragaza ingaruka mbi cyagize muri politiki yigihugu. Kandi usanga kugezubu ibyo bisobanuro byose biganisha nanone ku ugushinjana hagati y'abakiga n'abanyenduga. Ibi bintu bizakomeza jusqu'à quand ????

Madochka - Bica

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De : 'Nzinink' via CRES <collec...@googlegroups.com>
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Objet : [Collectif CRES], Re: INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA.

 

Mukomere.
Hakenewe ingamba zifatika zigagaragaza uburyo ibintu byakorwa, cyane cyane  ko iryagaragaye ritaba rikishe isuka.
Kugeza ibyo mbona/numva nsanga ari amagambo gusa.

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Nkiko <nkiko.ns...@bluewin.ch> wrote:
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> http://inkubiri.org/index.php/sw/amakuru/amatangazo/243-inzitizi-zo-kwibohora

INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA. inkubiri.org mouvement national inkubiri national movement

[Nzinink]

Urakoze cyane Mado kuri ibi bisobanuro utanze.

Nanjye ndahamya ko gukomeza kwenyegeza uyu muriro hagati y'abanyenduga n'abakiga ari umukino ushaje. Aho kudufasha kwibohora birushaho kudutobera.

Pour obtenir davantage d'options, consultez la page https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[Umunsi]

Oya rwose nakwumvise neza. Ibikorwa uvuga ni umuvuno (strategy). Nkakubwira ko ikiwubanziriza opposition itarageraho ari umushinga remezo usumbye uwa Kagame duhanganye nawe. Kagame yubakiye kuri jenoside y'abatutsi. Gushaka kumurwanya utayemera, uba usibye inzira yawe burundu. Akarusho kacu mu Nkubiri ni uko tuyemera, tukanavuga tudakikira abagomba kuyiryozwa : ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame ifitemo uruhare kuva yahanura indege ikubura intambara. Niba muri FDU Inkingi nabo babivuga uko nta kuzigura, yaba ari intambwe ikomeye cyane mwateye twaba duhuriyeho. Umpaye gihamya waba ukoze.

Icya kabiri. Nkeka mu Nkubiri turi aba mbere twemeza ko ibyaha byibasiye inyokomuntu bikamara impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo ari jenoside. Abayiryozwa bakaba ari ingoma ya Kagame. Hari abandi babitangaje nka twe, wabambwira nkabimenya, baba ari abandi duhuje.

Icya gatatu. Kubyerekeye ubwicanyi bw'ingabo za FPR bwahitanye imbaga y'abanyabyumba, bugakomeza Kibungo, Kigali, Gitarama, Butare, na byo ni ibyaha birenze imyumvire byo mu bwoko bw'ibyaha byibasiye inyokomuntu (crimes contre l'humanité). Erega bifite uburemere bukomeye nk'ubwa jenoside, kuko jenoside nayo ari icyaha cyibasira inyokomuntu. Ibi na byo turabivuga mu mushingaremezo wa politiki yacu (projet de société) yatangajwe.

Ntabwo nabishyize mu nyandiko y'ejo bundi kuko navuzemo gusa ibyaha bya jenoside ubu bitera impaka. Naho kuvuga ko mu karere nkomokamo nta bwicanyi bwahabaye ugasa n'uvuga ko mbupfobya, ntabuha agaciro kabwo, kubera njye ntakozwe mu nda, byihorere wa munyarwanda we.

Urabona se noneho, uhereye kubyo wavuze n'ibyo ngusubije, ko inzira itakiri ndende?

Erega impunzi z'abatutsi zo muri 1959 zakoresheje imyaka 35 kugira ngo zisubire i Rwanda kandi zifate ubutegetsi mu mivu y'amaraso wabonye. Nyuma y'imyaka 22, Kurambirwa ni byo kuko turi i Shyanga, ariko imyaka ishobora gukubwa kabiri, tutitonze ngo twubake ibintu duturutse mu mizi, aho guhera mu mashami twabyara ibihumye. 

Urabona ko ngarutse kuri rya jambo rurema. Ijambo ni rikuru.

Nkiko Nsengimana

[Nzinink]

Komera.

Uragira uti: "Akarusho kacu mu Nkubiri ni uko tuyemera [jenoside yakorewe abatutdi bari mu Rda], tukanavuga tudakikira abagomba kuyiryozwa : ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame ifitemo uruhare kuva yahanura indege ikubura intambara. Niba muri FDU Inkingi nabo babivuga uko nta kuzigura, yaba ari intambwe ikomeye cyane mwateye twaba duhuriyeho. Umpaye gihamya waba ukoze".

Ibi nta gishya kitimo.  Muri FDU-Inkingi icyo tubarusha ni uko tutavangura abicanyi, tukavuga ko "umuntu wese" wagize uruhare muri iriya jenoside agomba kubiryozwa. Reba gihamya hano hasi.

Ntabwo rero ari interahamwe n'inkotanyi gusa zigomba kuyiryozwa kubera ko inkuba, amajyogi, abakombozi, etc. nabo bayigizemo uruhare rukomeye.

Ariko kandi nk'uko nabivuze mu yindi nyandiko ubutabera bugamije kwihorera (justice retributive) ntaho buzatugeza. 

Niyo mpamvu twe muri FDU-Inkingi twemera ko byose bigomba kuzacocerwa mu nama ngoboka gihugu, tukumvikana ku kigomba gukorwa, mu nyungu nyamukuru z'abanyarwanda bose.

Guhora twikoma kanaka na kanaka byagombye gufashwa hasi tukarebera hamwe impamvu nyamukuru yatumye ariya mahano agwira uRda, tugafata ingamba zo kuyakumira burundu bityo ntidukomeze kuba imbohe z'ayo mateka yacu mabi.

Birabaje kwumva ko kuba mu Nkubiri mwemera "jenoside yakorewe abatutsi bari mu Rda" ngo mwabitewe n'uko mwasanze Kagame ariyo arisha ngo bityo rero ntacyo mwakwigezaho mudahereye kuri iyo jenoside....!

Pour votre info....

Address of Victoire Ingabire in captivity to Rwandans and Friends of Rwanda

We recognize the genocide

I and the political party I chair, UDF-Inkingi, which was created in 2006, we recognize that in 1994, in Rwanda, there has been genocide against the Tutsis.

We also recognize that during that time, before and after, there have been crimes against humanity committed against other groups of the Rwandan population.

These are facts we witnessed but also recognized by the United Nations, Resolution No 955 of November 08, 1994.

We also believe that anyone who has responsibility in those unspeakable killings against humanity should be held accountable.

This is what the current regime calls harboring genocide ideology or genocide denial", Victoire Ingabire Umuhoza, FDU-INKINGI, Chair, Kigali, May 3, 2010.

http://rwandinfo.com/eng/address-of-victoire-ingabire-in-captivity-to-rwandans-and-friends-of-rwanda/

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[Umunsi]

Erega programu ya FDU Inkingi mu Nkubiri ni twe twayanditse, uretse Ndereyehe kubyerekeye ubuhinzi. N'ariya matangazo ni twe twayanditse turayatangaza. Twakomeje kungongana ku ruhare rw'abayoboye jenoside abasigaye muri FDU mutinya gutobora ngo muvuge ko ari abategetsi ba MRND, mukavuga ko ari igihiriri cy'abanyarwanda bose, mushaka kubakurura bose mu cyaha, cyane cyane abahutu. Dutegereje ko abayobozi banyu b'ubu batobora bakavuga abakoze jenoside, bakitandukanya n'ingoma ya Habyarimana yayikoze, bikagarara ko mutayikingiye ikibaba; ibindi ni findi findi. Turabategereje rero. 

Nkiko Nsengimana

[Nzinink]

Habyara ushatse wamufasha ahasi ugakora ibigushinzwe mu gihe iImana ikigutije ubuzima, aho guhora umwikoma. 

Habyara yarangije urwe; mureke rero yiruhukire. Kumuhoza mu majwi sibyo bizabohora u Rwanda. Biragaragara ko neza uwo muhannganye uwo ari we. Si Habyara, si abakiga, si interahamwe, yewe si n'inkotanyi.

Pour votre info...

Rwanda, the Clinton Dynasty, and the Case of Dr. Léopold Munyakazi | Black Agenda Report

http://www.blackagendareport.com/rwanda_clinton_and_dr_munyakazi

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[Umunsi]

Urambeshyeye rwose ntaho nigeze ko ari Habyarimana ugomba gushinjwa jenoside. Yarapfuye ntiyari kuyakora atariho. Ni ingoma ye yakoze amahano. Amaze gupfa abambari b'ingoma ye, bazwi, muzi, ariko ahari mukingiye ikibaba muri FDU bakoze ishyano, bashoza jenoside nk'aho bihorera cyangwa bihebye, bya bindi bya "tubuze ubutegetsi, ariko namwe nta muntu muzasanga ushobora kubashyigikira, muzasanga intumbi n'imivu y'amaraso". Simvuze abanyepolitiki barwanyaga ingoma ye uko bishwe muri 1994. (Ntubavange n'abanyepolitikk bo muri 1973, iyo ni iyindi dosiye, noneho Habyarimana ubwe abifitemo uruhare rwose). Mvuze ahari ntegereje ko munyomoza ariko. Na FPR ntacyo yaruseho ingoma ya Habyarimana ngo muri 94 ikore ibishoboka byose itabare vuba abatutsi mu gihugu cyangwa ibatabarize. Mbese Abatutsi bo mu gihugu imbere bakoraniweho. Amahano yakoze ku bandi uturutse i Byumba sinyagarutseho.

Wa mugabo we ibintu birakomeye, icyaha ni gatozi, ikibi kandi aba ari ikibi, cyane iyo aba ari amahano, tukirwanye ku mugaragaro, dushobore kurwanya nyakibi wundi w'ingoma ya Kagame. Nimubanze mutubwire intekerezo yanyu irambuye, cyane cyane kuri ariya mahano. Muri FDU musohore inyandiko y'umushinga wanyu remezo mushya uranguruye, atari ibi by'uwemera jenoside ariko ngo utinye kuvuga nyempara wayikoze. Nyuma yabyo uzaba ureba ko umuvuno utazaba woroshye, ibikorwa uvuga bikagira kigenga bigenderaho.

Dusangiye ijambo.

Nkiko Nsengimana

[Francois Munyabagisha]

"Kagame yubakiye kuri jenoside y'abatutsi. Gushaka kumurwanya utayemera, uba usibye inzira yawe burundu. Akarusho kacu mu Nkubiri ni uko tuyemera, tukanavuga tudakikira abagomba kuyiryozwa", Nkiko (FDU Inkubiri)

Nsomye iyi nteruro, numva ndakozwe, ...  Nkiko unyemerere ngukomere urume. Ibi byiyumviro uko ali bitatu bisa n'ukuli aliko si ukuli. 
1- Ingoma ya Kagame ntabwo yubakiye kuli jenoside. Jenoside ni urutindo (cfr ambas. JMV Nadaijimana) aliko si cyo kibanza. Yubakiye k'urujijo n'ubujiji bw'abayikorera n'abayikoomeera.

Ingoma ye yatangiye kuyubaka ali mu ubuhungiro. Ayubaka akubura Byumba, Kibungo, etc. Ibyo wita jenocide wemera si byo bimwubakiye ubukomangoma. Ndetse uko ubyemera nakwemeza ko we atali ko abyemera. We ashimishwa no kubikwemeza, ukamushimisha iyo ubyemera utanamubaza we icyo yemera. Uretse ko icyo yemera kizwi, agishyira mu ngiro ze. None yubatse ate, yubakiye kuki?

Icyamuteye gutera, icyamucuje guteta nk'umwana uli iwabo, ni nacyo kimwubatse. Imizi yacyo urayisanga mu myumvire y'amateka n'imigambi yo kubaho nk'abantu mu rwanda. Si mu mateka, ni mummyumvire. Ubyumva ute, wowe utukwa mu banyabwenge bazima ?

2- uti gushaka kumurwanya .... Aha naho hali urujijo. Kumurwanya ubwabyo ni ukuyoba. Wamurwanya se ngo uzagere kuki? Kurwana bisaba kujya mu mitsi, gusabiza ibirwanisho. Kagame aliho k'ubw'ibirwanisho, imbunda n'ubwicanyi. Nushaka kumurwanya uzagomaba kunyura mu nzira imwe nawe. Aha lero ubanza uzaba ubaye nka we. Ntabwo lero uzaba umurwanyije, muzaba mukiranye bimwe bya gatobe-gatoki (vaho ndyeho).
Kwemera jenocide lero si umuvuno wo kugangahura igihugu no kubaka ubumuntu i Rwanda. "Birabaje kwumva ko kuba mu Nkubiri mwemera #jenoside yakorewe abatutsi bari mu Rda# ngo mwabitewe n'uko mwasanze Kagame ariyo arisha ngo bityo rero ntacyo mwakwigezaho mudahereye kuri iyo jenoside....!", Nzinink. Nibyo birababaje. Aliko kumenya ko bibabaje na byo si umuti.
Ikiruse ndakigarukaho hepfo gato.

3- "Akarusho mu Nkubiri... "
Nyemerera nanjye nkubwire nk'umuvandimwe n'ubwo tuli ku ka butare nta gukikira... Iyo jenocide uvuga namwe mu Nkubiri muyifitemo uruhare... Ntiyatangiye muli 94. Ibaze cya gihe muli 73 abanyeshuli muli Kaminuza bashoka bagenzi babo ngo ni abatutsi... Jenocide si ingoma ya Hyabyarimana yayiryozwa. Mbere ne mbere uzi ko iyo ngoma itakiriho. Ikindi uzi ko Perezida atali we Gihugu. Ngo zitukwamo nkuru. Igihugu si igihuru. Igituma kitaba igihuru cg ishyamba ni UBWENGE. Abanyabwenge ni bo (twe) ba(tu)gomba kubazwa ibyo aya mahano yose. "Guhora twikoma kanaka na kanaka byagombye gufashwa hasi tukarebera hamwe impamvu nyamukuru yatumye ariya mahano agwira uRda, tugafata ingamba zo kuyakumira burundu bityo ntidukomeze kuba imbohe z'ayo mateka yacu mabi", Nzinink. Inkubiri na zo muzifashije hasi byaruta. Ejo mwali inkingi none ngo mwarubije... Ejo hali RNC none ngo na rnshya ! Ngo dore "amashyaka", dore abatavugarumwe na Kagame, n'ibindi n'ibindi ... Koko se? Uwareka kutavugarumwe, akilinda "kudakora kimwe", agatangiza gutekereza no gukora ibikwiye bilimo ubwenge nyabwenge.

Nsobanure. Ikiruse, ikihutirwa:
- gusobanukirwa no gusobanura imiterere y'ubutegetsi bw'Igisuti (fascisme) bwa Fpr. Ikibazo lero si Kagame, ni fpr (indwara, esprit) n'abitwa ko barwanya Fpr (organisation y'inyeshyamba) aho kuyivura ou kuyigorora niba byaba bigishoboka.
- gutekereza ku miterere, ikerekezo n'imikorere by'ubutegetsi bw'Inyuguti (philosophie). Aha abanyabwenge ba(du)sabwa gutekereza, kubaka ubutegetsi bw'Ibitekerezo n'Ukwemera. Iki gika kimaze gushyika, gusobanukirwa no gusobanura ibya jenocide byarushaho koroha.
- Nyuma yo gutekereza, haba guhuza ibitekerezo. Tukubaka, tukiyubaka, tukubaha,tukiyubaha, tukubakana, tukubahana. Inzira ni ndende kandi irafunganye. Nta guhubuka, nta guhurura. Ndabizi ubu hali abumva ngo naba mvuze ko bahubuka. Guhubuka birasanzwe. Ntawe udahubuka. Na njye bimbaho kenshi ngahubuka. Nkandika, nkavuga ibyo ntibajijeho, ntasuzumye ngo nsobanuze. Guhubuka bigakurura inkubiri. "Inkubiri"!! Munkande munenge, njye ngumya mbe njye nyine, bimwe Mgr Bigirumwami yahanuye.

Nimucyo tureme umutwe cg imitwe y'Urumuli, Ubupfura n'Imhagarike. Tubaze, twibaze, tubazanye. Ayo mashyirahamwe mubeshyanya ngo ni amashyaka musese, mu(du)hange ibigo by'Abanyabwenge, tukore ubushakashatsi twate rwa rumuli rwo mizero ya Rubanda ( illuminetio et salut pouli). Ubwenge ni cyo cyonyine ubutegetsi bw'igisuti butinya, ni cyo cyonyine hamwe n'ukwemera, kibasha guhangamura ubutegetsi bw'igisuti. Simvuga ubw'igitugu. Kuko igitugu atali kibi. Abadatekereza bihagije ni bo babona igitugu ali kibi. Nako navuga ko bakitiranya n'igisuti. Ibaze nawe ...

Reka nandike akitso, ejo hatagira abumva bankuramo izo kotsa. Bagorwa bagorwa abatumwa gushakira imihore yo kwihoza anashavu ku maguru ya muyabagisha! Na Kigali yararungurutse irahurwa. Abubatsi bo nababwira nti " fer à beton ndi yo bwana".

Mugire Imhagalike n'Ubugingo (Ayez la droiture et une saine santé) !

 

Francois M. (1-819-461-0353)

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Subject: [Collectif CRES], Re: INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA.
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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 13:02:35 -0400
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[Umunsi]

Ndagushimiye Munyabagisha ku bitekerezo byawe. Nyemerera ariko karambuye ngusubize.

Iyo mvuga ko ingoma ya Kagame yubakiye kuri jenoside y'abatutsi bari imbere mu gihugu si ukuvuga ko ugupfa kwabo ari kintu kiremereye cyane umutima wa Kagame. Ugupfa kw'abatutsi byabaye igitambo cyo kumugeza ku butegetsi. Ku ruhare rwanjye, dore igituma mbyemeza. 

Muri 1994, igihe byagaragara ko FPR ishaka kubura imirwano, nagiye mu nkotanyi nyoboye intumwa za Kiliziya na société civile, kubabwira ko nibubura imirwano abatutsi n'abari muri opozisiyo dushize. Uko banshubije ndakuzi, ngo ntihazabura abarokoka! Twabaye nk'abakubiswe n'inkuba. Naratinyutse nti murubakira kubazarokoka? Twavuyeyo njya kubibwira abadiplomates b'ibihugu bikomeye, bati natwe batubwiye ko ntawe ukora umuleti atamennye amagi. Kuri 31.03.1994 twasohoye itangazo, tuvuga ko amahano akomeye agiye kugwa, twaka ko ingabo za Loni zihaguma kuko icyo gihe zavugaga ko zigiye kwigendera. Ntabwo twigeze duteketeza ko ayo mahano ashobora kubimburirwa n'uguhanura indege ya Habyarimana.

Ibyakurikiyeho urabizi, kugeza magingo aya.

Iyo tuvuga ko ubutegetsi bwa Kagame bwubakiye kuri jenoside, ni uko avuga ko yayihagaritse, kandi atari byo, ahubwo abatutsi barabaye igitambo n'iteme ry'imirambo y'ubutegetsi bwe. Abantu, cyane cyane abahutu, bakaruca bakarumira kuko abagerekaho bose nta kurobanura uwo muzigo. Abo mu bahutu bafite koko uruhare muri ubwo bwicanyi, nabo bagasa nk'aho bishimiye ko urusyo rutabagerekwaho bonyine, ari nayo mpamvu baba badashaka ko hari uvuga ko ingoma ya Habyarimana ari nyempara y'ubwo bwicanyi, ko ari rubanda yababaye ikihorera, mbese nta gitegeka. Ntiwavuga ko Kagame afite uruhare mw'iyicwa ry'abatutsi n'abandi banyarwanda, ushaka ko abiryozwa, utemera weruye jenoside ngo unavuge ba nyempara bari kw'isonga ryayo. Wakwemeza ute itsembabwoko ryabaye ku mpunzi muri Kongo, ngo ushyigikirwe, utemera itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi mu gihugu ryabanje?

Mu Nkubiri (inkubiri bivuga ukwiyemeza 'détermination-engagement', bitanye n'inkubi 'force', nkuko bavuga inkubi y'umuyaga), tuti kwemera jenoside y'abatutsi bari mu gihugu ntibikwiye kugibwaho impaka, ni ihame. Na benshi mubari muri twe bayirimo ntitwategereje ko yemerwa n'inkiko ngo tunone tuyite jenoside. Tunarimo abafashe iya mbere twaka ko hajyaho urukiko mpuzamahanga. Nkuko tudategereje ko urukiko mpuzamahanga rwemeza ko iyicwa ry'impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo ari jenoside kugira ngo tubyemeze.

Biriya uvuga byabaye muri 1973 byo kwirukana abana b'abatutsi mu mashuri, nabyo nibyo, ntibikwiye gukikirwa. Kimwe n'iyicwa rya Prezida Kayibanda n 'abandi banyapolitiki bari kw'isonga ya Revolusiyo yo muri 1959 na Republika. Mbese nta kibazo gikomeye cy'amateka yacu kigomba guhishwa. 

Kwicara hamwe, tugasasa inzobe, tugasangira ijambo, ntawe tuzacira urubanza, ariko ibintu byose tukabiha inyito, amashyira agashira mu gisebe, niho inzira yo kubohora u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda izabonekera.

Mu Nkubiri twemera ko inzira y'amahoro n'imishyikirano ariyo nzira nyayo yo gukemura ibibazo bya politiki. Inzira y'intambara si amahitamo yacu, ni Kagame uzayidushoramo, dore ko ngo aba anaribwaribwa ayitegereje. Nanayidushoramo ntazayitsinda, nituba twarashashe inzobe, dufite intekerezo rurema ya politiki ikomeye duhuriyeho.

Nongeye kugushimira ibitekerezo ugejeje ku banyarubuga bose. Ijambo riryoha risubiwemo.

Kabeho.

Nkiko Nsengimana

[Nzinink]

"Muri FDU musohore inyandiko y'umushinga wanyu remezo mushya uranguruye, atari ibi by'uwemera jenoside ariko ngo utinye kuvuga nyempara wayikoze", NN.

Njye mbona ibi byose murimo ari diversion ( kubuyeza abantu, byatinda bakabyina muzunga cg bakarwara muraramo) Ntituzahora muri urwo. Ngayo amahame-remezo mashya y'amashyaka! Ngayo andi mashyaka "mashya"cg ngo "avuguruye", etc. 

Ibi byose byarutwa no gusesa ayo mashyaka yose, tugatangira bundi busashya nk'uko Munyabagisha gigeze kubikomozaho.

Abo bantu bahoze mu ngoma ya Habyara mutezeho ubuhamya buzatuma twiyunga ni bande, babarizwa he, ngo tubegere twumve icyo badusubiza? Ni bariya se bari kuborera muri gereza mu Rda no mu mahanga? 

Ese ubwo buhamya mushaka bazabuha nde abumaze iki? 

Niba ari ibi byo kujya ku karubanda cg kuri ariya maradiyo ya opposition maze bikarangirira aho, byarutwa no kurorera kuko bishobora gufasha uwo duhanganye kurusha uko byagira icyo bimarira abanyarwanda muri rusange.

Kuri njye uwo duhanganye si umunyarwanda, ni gahakabuke, mpatsibihugu. Akoresha buri gihe bamwe mu benegihugu batitaye ku nyungu z'abanyarwanda.ububona ukundi azansobanurire.

Iyi diversion yadutse mu Nkubiri nsanzwe nyumvana Rudasingwa. We cyokora ntiyikoma gusa ingoma ya Habyara. Rudasingwa we aramanuka akagera muri opposition ya Habyara, mu ngoma ya Kayibanda, ingoma ya cyami, atibagiwe n'ingoma y'umwami mushya w'uRda, Kagame.

Ikinyemeza ko ibi byose ari diversion ni uko uyu Rudasingwa ejo bundi yavugiye kuri BBC ko kuri we "aho kugirango opposition imeze itya ifate ubutegetsi mu Rda, yarekereho Kagame mpaka kugeza igihe opposition izivugururira"!

Umuntu utekereza utyo simbona neza icyo akora muri opposition uretse nyine gutesha abantu igihe, byacangwamo akabatobera.

On Jul 30, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch> wrote:

Urambeshyeye rwose ntaho nigeze ko ari Habyarimana ugomba gushinjwa jenoside. Yarapfuye ntiyari kuyakora atariho. Ni ingoma ye yakoze amahano. Amaze gupfa abambari b'ingoma ye, bazwi, muzi, ariko ahari mukingiye ikibaba muri FDU bakoze ishyano, bashoza jenoside nk'aho bihorera cyangwa bihebye, bya bindi bya "tubuze ubutegetsi, ariko namwe nta muntu muzasanga ushobora kubashyigikira, muzasanga intumbi n'imivu y'amaraso". Simvuze abanyepolitiki barwanyaga ingoma ye uko bishwe muri 1994. (Ntubavange n'abanyepolitikk bo muri 1973, iyo ni iyindi dosiye, noneho Habyarimana ubwe abifitemo uruhare rwose). Mvuze ahari ntegereje ko munyomoza ariko. Na FPR ntacyo yaruseho ingoma ya Habyarimana ngo muri 94 ikore ibishoboka byose itabare vuba abatutsi mu gihugu cyangwa ibatabarize. Mbese Abatutsi bo mu gihugu imbere bakoraniweho. Amahano yakoze ku bandi uturutse i Byumba sinyagarutseho.

Wa mugabo we ibintu birakomeye, icyaha ni gatozi, ikibi kandi aba ari ikibi, cyane iyo aba ari amahano, tukirwanye ku mugaragaro, dushobore kurwanya nyakibi wundi w'ingoma ya Kagame. Nimubanze mutubwire intekerezo yanyu irambuye, cyane cyane kuri ariya mahano. Muri FDU musohore inyandiko y'umushinga wanyu remezo mushya uranguruye, atari ibi by'uwemera jenoside ariko ngo utinye kuvuga nyempara wayikoze. Nyuma yabyo uzaba ureba ko umuvuno utazaba woroshye, ibikorwa uvuga bikagira kigenga bigenderaho.

Dusangiye ijambo.

Nkiko Nsengimana

Le 30 juil. 2016 à 20:56, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collec...@googlegroups.com> a écrit :

Habyara ushatse wamufasha ahasi ugakora ibigushinzwe mu gihe Imana ikigutije ubuzima, aho guhora umwikoma. 

Habyara yarangije urwe; mureke rero yiruhukire. Kumuhoza mu majwi sibyo bizabohora u Rwanda. Biragaragara ko utazi neza uwo muhannganye uwo ari we. Si Habyara, si abakiga, si interahamwe, yewe si n'inkotanyi.

[Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA]

Impaka, Impaka et encore Impaka !!!!

Niba ntibeshye, mu mwanya hari aho nasomye murizi mpaka zurudaca ko ngo Munyabagisha yigeze kuvuga ko ibyiza  aruko amashyaka ya opposition yakubitwa hasi bakongera gutangira à zéro.

Il a raison.... L'opposition rwandaise a lamentablement échoué. Reconnaître ses échecs et chercher comment se repositionner pour mieux se tenir debout, nubutwari. 

- Aho gutera imbere, presque 20 ans après, amashyaka ya opposition yose yasubiye inyuma. Ntashobora kugira ingingo zingenzi yumvikanaho ngo afatanye mukuzishakira des stratégies de lutte appropriées, et ça c'est extrêmement grâve... 

- Ntibumva kimwe amakuba yatubayeho kandi ariyo yatumye twangara, iyo fact ikaba ari nayo yanatumye ayo mashyaka ashingwa, justement dans le but de stopper uko kwangara, maze tugataha iwacu tuhajyanye impinduka iboneye kuri buri munyarwanda nta vangura iryariryo ryose.  

Je pense que celui que nous combattons se s'est jamais autant délecté de sa victoire, quand, 22 ans après il voit où nous en sommes.

Oui, Il faut tout recommencer à zéro, bakiga no kudakorera mu rusaku. Gukomeza gukora gutya nuguha uwo turwanya mandat izageza muri 2064, ni ukwiha rubanda no nugutiza amenyo abasetsi gusa. Keretse niba hari abiyita les opposants baba babifitemo inyungu. You never know !

Mana tabara abanyarwanda...

Madochka - Bica

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Objet : Re: [AVM_Populi] Re: INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA.

 

 

Mureke nanjye nitere mu kiganiro cyanyu maze nibarize Nkiko Nsengimana n'abandi babyumva kumwe utubazo duke:

Ubu mubona Ibi mwirirwamo byo gushinjanya génocide aribyo bizatuma mubohoza abanyarwanda bati ku ngoyi? Ubundi muri droit la force de la preuve appartient à celui qui accuse!

Wowe Nkiko tugikorana ni kenshi wambwiye (hari n'abandi wabibwiye) ko B. Na Bagenzi Be bateguye génocide. Twagusabye turi benshi ikimenyetso urakibura uravuga ngo urabizi gusa (hic!). Ndetse une fois turi kumwe na 

Sixbert Musanhamfura yakubwiye ko nyuma y'intambara ubutegetsi bwa fpr kuri gouvernement ya Twagiramungu Faustin bwafashe ama documents officiels yose bushakamo préparation ya génocide burayibura, si niriwe mvuga ko n'urukiko rwa Arusha (tpir) rwabuze izo preuves! 

Kuba génocide yarabaye ntawe ubihakana ariko guhora utsindagira ngo ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana nibwo bwayokoze kandi nta preuve uzana, mu gihe kandi hari abakwereka n'abandi bayigizemo uruhare kandi batari mubo wita ab'ingoma ya Habyarimana mbona bigahwitse.

Byashiboka ko ubona uburyo bwiza bwo gukura icyaha ku bahutu bose ari ukucyegeka kuri abo wita ab'ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana, ariko jye nkeka ko wibeshya ko fpr izabyumva mwe ikabagira abere. Impamvu ni uko kuba fpr ishyira icyaha ku bahutu bose itarobanuye  si uko uyobewe ukuri ahubwo ni uko aribyo bayifite ye inyungu muri jeu ya pouvoir. Kwirirwa rero mushinjanya kandi nta système politique yemera ukuri kutabogamye ihari ni uguta igihe. Nimukore ku buryo système mbi ivaho maze twimakaze iyo recherche de la vérité ku byabaye byose naho ubundi tuzamara indi myaka 100 turi mubyo gushinjanya twizera ko twe tuzagirwa abere byaha byo kajya. Ntawe nkingira ikibaba ariko ushinja agomba no kuduha preuve kandi akabikorera muri  cadre nyayo. 

Umunsi mwiza. 

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Ugomba kuba wibeshya. Sinavuze ko ingoma ya Habyarimana yakoze planification ya jenoside. Mu buhamya nakoreye TPIR narabihamije, mvuga n'impamvu nta planification. Inyandiko irahari kugeza n'ubu nta expert, ni de la défense, ni du procureur barwanije expertise natanze. Nta n'undi wanyomoje nzi. Ariko ko jenoside yayobowe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana, byo ndabahihamya kandi nzakomeza kubihamya. Nanditse inyandiko nyinshi kuri ibyo. Icyo mbona kindi ntibeshyeho cyo ni uko FDU Inkingi igikingiye ikibaba ingoma ya Habyarimana ko itayoboye cyangwa itakoze jenoside. Aha turahatandukaniye bikomeye. Nkongeraho ko nta mpinduka y'ubutegetsi dushobora kugeraho, igihe cyose dukomeje kuzika ukuri. Ntitwanahindura système mbi kandi dukomeza gukikira indi système mbi, nayo yakoze amahano. Hakozwe itsembabwoko, si ibyo gukinisha. Turarwanya ingoma ya Kagame ku mpamvu nk'izi. Aha tutahashinze agati, ntacyo twaba duharanira gifatika.

Kabeho.

Nkiko Nsengimana
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Objet : Re: [AVM_Populi] Re: INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA.

 

Mureke nanjye nitere mu kiganiro cyanyu maze nibarize Nkiko Nsengimana n'abandi babyumva kumwe utubazo duke:

Ubu mubona Ibi mwirirwamo byo gushinjanya génocide aribyo bizatuma mubohoza abanyarwanda bati ku ngoyi? Ubundi muri droit la force de la preuve appartient à celui qui accuse!

Wowe Nkiko tugikorana ni kenshi wambwiye (hari n'abandi wabibwiye) ko B. Na Bagenzi Be bateguye génocide. Twagusabye turi benshi ikimenyetso urakibura uravuga ngo urabizi gusa (hic!). Ndetse une fois turi kumwe na 

Sixbert Musanhamfura yakubwiye ko nyuma y'intambara ubutegetsi bwa fpr kuri gouvernement ya Twagiramungu Faustin bwafashe ama documents officiels yose bushakamo préparation ya génocide burayibura, si niriwe mvuga ko n'urukiko rwa Arusha (tpir) rwabuze izo preuves! 

Kuba génocide yarabaye ntawe ubihakana ariko guhora utsindagira ngo ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana nibwo bwayokoze kandi nta preuve uzana, mu gihe kandi hari abakwereka n'abandi bayigizemo uruhare kandi batari mubo wita ab'ingoma ya Habyarimana mbona bigahwitse.

Byashiboka ko ubona uburyo bwiza bwo gukura icyaha ku bahutu bose ari ukucyegeka kuri abo wita ab'ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana, ariko jye nkeka ko wibeshya ko fpr izabyumva mwe ikabagira abere. Impamvu ni uko kuba fpr ishyira icyaha ku bahutu bose itarobanuye  si uko uyobewe ukuri ahubwo ni uko aribyo bayifite ye inyungu muri jeu ya pouvoir. Kwirirwa rero mushinjanya kandi nta système politique yemera ukuri kutabogamye ihari ni uguta igihe. Nimukore ku buryo système mbi ivaho maze twimakaze iyo recherche de la vérité ku byabaye byose naho ubundi tuzamara indi myaka 100 turi mubyo gushinjanya twizera ko twe tuzagirwa abere byaha byo kajya. Ntawe nkingira ikibaba ariko ushinja agomba no kuduha preuve kandi akabikorera muri  cadre nyayo. 

Umunsi mwiza. 

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Mais njye ibyo navuze, ni za faits concrets, vérifiables.

Naho za interprétations zo, byose biterwa n'uzitanga, akaba ari nabyo nagarutseho muri inforamtions natanze.

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Bwana Nzinik, Mado n'abandi mutekereza kimwe mulibeshya cyane! 

Umuliro uteranya kiga-nduga ntabwo ali umukino ushaje ahubwo ni umuvuno-muvumo, iturufu likomeye (Jockeri) likoreshwa kuva republika yashingwa kugeza uyu munsi, akaba ali nalyo liroha Rwanda mu bibi byose yali yajugunye, ligasenya amajyambere republika yifulizaga abanyarwanda burundu. Bilibutsa bimwe by'Abaframa n'Abawalo mu Bubiligi bagera naho bapfa inzuki za hamwe zijya gutara ahandi.

Muzasome Guichaoua, Butare la prefecture rebelle 2004, muzatangazwa n'ukuntu ubwo buliganya bugera naho bugereka ku baturuka ahandi ibyo banyili-prefegitura bakoze, bitashoboraga gukorwa cyangwa se gutegurwa n'abali aho nk'abashyitsi, aliko bugahatana bushaka ubulyo bwose ngo bubigereke ku batagira aho bahuliye nabyo. 

Ibi kandi duhora tubivuga, yemwe twanabiganiyeho n'inyangamugayo ambassador Jean Marie Vianey! 

Tubatuye kandi n'ibili muli iyi link ngo mwiyunvire, abashaka kubura imanza-mahugu bunve ko bazazitsinda biruhanije. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2016/07/31/rwandapres-dominique-mbonyumutwa-yari-muntu-ki-yaranzwe-niki-mubuzima-bwe

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Objet:Re: [Collectif CRES], Re: INZITIZI ZO KWIBOHORA.

Komera.

Uragira uti: "Akarusho kacu mu Nkubiri ni uko tuyemera [jenoside yakorewe abatutdi bari mu Rda], tukanavuga tudakikira abagomba kuyiryozwa : ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame ifitemo uruhare kuva yahanura indege ikubura intambara. Niba muri FDU Inkingi nabo babivuga uko nta kuzigura, yaba ari intambwe ikomeye cyane mwateye twaba duhuriyeho. Umpaye gihamya waba ukoze".

Ibi nta gishya kitimo.  Muri FDU-Inkingi icyo tubarusha ni uko tutavangura abicanyi, tukavuga ko "umuntu wese" wagize uruhare muri iriya jenoside agomba kubiryozwa. Reba gihamya hano hasi.

Ntabwo rero ari interahamwe n'inkotanyi gusa zigomba kuyiryozwa kubera ko inkuba, amajyogi, abakombozi, etc. nabo bayigizemo uruhare rukomeye.

Ariko kandi nk'uko nabivuze mu yindi nyandiko ubutabera bugamije kwihorera (justice retributive) ntaho buzatugeza. 

Niyo mpamvu twe muri FDU-Inkingi twemera ko byose bigomba kuzacocerwa mu nama ngoboka gihugu, tukumvikana ku kigomba gukorwa, mu nyungu nyamukuru z'abanyarwanda bose.

Guhora twikoma kanaka na kanaka byagombye gufashwa hasi tukarebera hamwe impamvu nyamukuru yatumye ariya mahano agwira uRda, tugafata ingamba zo kuyakumira burundu bityo ntidukomeze kuba imbohe z'ayo mateka yacu mabi.

Birabaje kwumva ko kuba mu Nkubiri mwemera "jenoside yakorewe abatutsi bari mu Rda" ngo mwabitewe n'uko mwasanze Kagame ariyo arisha ngo bityo rero ntacyo mwakwigezaho mudahereye kuri iyo jenoside....!

Pour votre info....

Address of Victoire Ingabire in captivity to Rwandans and Friends of Rwanda

We recognize the genocide

I and the political party I chair, UDF-Inkingi, which was created in 2006, we recognize that in 1994, in Rwanda, there has been genocide against the Tutsis.

We also recognize that during that time, before and after, there have been crimes against humanity committed against other groups of the Rwandan population.

These are facts we witnessed but also recognized by the United Nations, Resolution No 955 of November 08, 1994.

We also believe that anyone who has responsibility in those unspeakable killings against humanity should be held accountable.

This is what the current regime calls harboring genocide ideology or genocide denial", Victoire Ingabire Umuhoza, FDU-INKINGI, Chair, Kigali, May 3, 2010.

http://rwandinfo.com/eng/address-of-victoire-ingabire-in-captivity-to-rwandans-and-friends-of-rwanda/

On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Umunsi <umu...@bluewin.ch> wrote:

Oya rwose nakwumvise neza. Ibikorwa uvuga ni umuvuno (strategy). Nkakubwira ko ikiwubanziriza opposition itarageraho ari umushinga remezo usumbye uwa Kagame duhanganye nawe. Kagame yubakiye kuri jenoside y'abatutsi. Gushaka kumurwanya utayemera, uba usibye inzira yawe burundu. Akarusho kacu mu Nkubiri ni uko tuyemera, tukanavuga tudakikira abagomba kuyiryozwa : ingoma ya Habyarimana n'iya Kagame ifitemo uruhare kuva yahanura indege ikubura intambara. Niba muri FDU Inkingi nabo babivuga uko nta kuzigura, yaba ari intambwe ikomeye cyane mwateye twaba duhuriyeho. Umpaye gihamya waba ukoze.

Icya kabiri. Nkeka mu Nkubiri turi aba mbere twemeza ko ibyaha byibasiye inyokomuntu bikamara impunzi z'abahutu muri Kongo ari jenoside. Abayiryozwa bakaba ari ingoma ya Kagame. Hari abandi babitangaje nka twe, wabambwira nkabimenya, baba ari abandi duhuje.

Icya gatatu. Kubyerekeye ubwicanyi bw'ingabo za FPR bwahitanye imbaga y'abanyabyumba, bugakomeza Kibungo, Kigali, Gitarama, Butare, na byo ni ibyaha birenze imyumvire byo mu bwoko bw'ibyaha byibasiye inyokomuntu (crimes contre l'humanité). Erega bifite uburemere bukomeye nk'ubwa jenoside, kuko jenoside nayo ari icyaha cyibasira inyokomuntu. Ibi na byo turabivuga mu mushingaremezo wa politiki yacu (projet de société) yatangajwe.

Ntabwo nabishyize mu nyandiko y'ejo bundi kuko navuzemo gusa ibyaha bya jenoside ubu bitera impaka. Naho kuvuga ko mu karere nkomokamo nta bwicanyi bwahabaye ugasa n'uvuga ko mbupfobya, ntabuha agaciro kabwo, kubera njye ntakozwe mu nda, byihorere wa munyarwanda we.

Urabona se noneho, uhereye kubyo wa

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