An interesting question arose on the CF-Talk list today … I thought I’d ask the same question here too – might get a more educated response about it …
Here’s Dean Lawrence’s question:
[quote]
I've been using ColdSpring for a good number of years and it is pretty much
a part of almost every site that I have developed. When trying to access
http://coldspringframework.org/ to look at the docs, I get a service
unavailable error. It was like this when I tried to access it about a month
ago as well. Is the site defunct?
I know that the project has not been worked on for some time, so my
question is, should I consider migrating my sites to another dependency
injection solution? If so, which would you suggest? I've briefly looked at
Wirebox and DI/1, but have never put either one into play. Also, what kind
of work am I looking at to convert my existing sites? The thought of doing
this gives me heartburn, but I don't want to have to scramble if some
future CF or Java update breaks ColdSpring.
[/quote]
I’m in the same boat. I have Coldspring on almost all of my sites, and I’d rather not have a sudden problem with a future upgrade force me to have to scramble to get all my sites working – if I’m going to have to change the basic architecture of my sites, I’d rather do it on an orderly basis.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:09 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, Mark. That is -much- more of a complicated answer than I was expecting. :)-Nolan
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Mark Mandel <mark....@gmail.com> wrote:
So the site is actually on a server run by Adam Lehman :) It's a CF10 server that never had a serial, so for whatever reason it crashes all the time. I can log in at any time and get the cfml files.The docs for CS2 where on a trac site that SourceForge shut down without any prior notification (yay!) I have that as a backup (sql + attachments), but that's about it.To make things even more fun, the domain is owned by a guy named Jacob Reider, and I have no direct control over it.Does that help?Mark
On 21 March 2015 at 11:09, Nolan Erck <nolan...@gmail.com> wrote:
-NolanMark Mandel was hosting the docs on his server, last I recall. He used to jokingly complain about that server being temperamental and that he'd have to reboot it periodically.I just shot Mark a msg on Twitter to see if he has any updated info. (Not that I have any problem with Dan hosting the files -- I too am invested in ColdSpring and would like the docs/project to have a good home.)
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Dan Wilson <sipa...@gmail.com> wrote:
The docs are down? Interesting. If someone would be able to get me in touch with whomever has the docs, I would be glad to host them.
I'm heavily invested in ColdSpring and it suits my purposes just fine. So I see no need to transition away to another engine just because the docs are down.
DW
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Friday, March 20, 2015 9:33 PM
Thanks for the clarification, Mark. That is -much- more of a complicated answer than I was expecting. :)-Nolan
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Friday, March 20, 2015 9:02 PM
So the site is actually on a server run by Adam Lehman :) It's a CF10 server that never had a serial, so for whatever reason it crashes all the time. I can log in at any time and get the cfml files.The docs for CS2 where on a trac site that SourceForge shut down without any prior notification (yay!) I have that as a backup (sql + attachments), but that's about it.To make things even more fun, the domain is owned by a guy named Jacob Reider, and I have no direct control over it.Does that help?Mark
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Friday, March 20, 2015 8:09 PM
-NolanMark Mandel was hosting the docs on his server, last I recall. He used to jokingly complain about that server being temperamental and that he'd have to reboot it periodically.I just shot Mark a msg on Twitter to see if he has any updated info. (Not that I have any problem with Dan hosting the files -- I too am invested in ColdSpring and would like the docs/project to have a good home.)
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Saturday, March 21, 2015 7:18 PM
So there is CS2 on Github here:But that doesn't really help.Probably makes sense to have a coldspring organisation (happy to set that up), and add those people who are keep to be involved. We can then move the CS2 repo over there, and potentially have a repo for CS 1.2 if that's what people want as well.I can reboot the CS server if we want to take a html mirror of the site and get that up on a github page somewhere.I have the email of the domain owner from whois (and I think I've been in contact with him in the past, so I can look that up too).Happy to take direction from those invested in it however - I'm not doing anything with it these days.Mark
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Saturday, March 21, 2015 7:13 PM
I think it would be best to move CS 1.2 to Github so we can put it in the hands of the community. That way, the repo will be on GitHub, and can be forked as appropriate.
Is there a straightforward way to crawling the HTML on coldspringframework.org to move it to github?
Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:09 PM
Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:40 AM
I think it would be best to move CS 1.2 to Github so we can put it in the hands of the community. That way, the repo will be on GitHub, and can be forked as appropriate.
Is there a straightforward way to crawling the HTML on coldspringframework.org to move it to github?
DW
This thread makes me kinda sad (even if I haven't touched CF code in years). Hope everyone is well.
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Me please :)
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JThanks,I can do that tonight...Can I get the email addresses from people who want to be on the Trello board? Or I can take the email addies from here, but I need to know who wants to be added.
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8 July 2015 00:32
Jared,You had the idea of a trello board to manage these tasks - did you want to set one up, and take the list I posted before and get it all entered?Mark
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5 July 2015 19:42
I'm open to suggestions still, if someone thinks there is a better way :)Mark
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4 July 2015 18:19
I can live with it. :)
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A new repo per version doesn't make sense to me, if we no longer need to do a rewrite, so having a new repo for CS3 seems like overkill. No other project does this - unless you can find an example?I get what you are saying with the community understanding the different. Again I refer to what happened with Angular, since it's a similar scenario. They clearly mark in the README which repository is for version 2 and which is the older version, so there is little confusion. I feel we could do the same.
Now I'm leaning more towards a "coldspring1" repository for the previous version and a "coldspring" repository for future work.How does that work for you?Mark
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