touching the past

[James Kelly]

Today's scripture reading cites Jesus calling Andrew from his boat  Can someone help this octogenarian know why our novitiate was called ST ANDREW's.  And please be simple. Remember, I was in Bermingham's B class Gratefully, still, in so many ways,  a novice, jim kelly

[David Stump,Sj]

Dear Jim, 

My recollection is that St. Andrew on Hudson was named after Sant'Andrea al Quirinale in Rome, the first Jesuit novitiate.  Which, BTW was where Stan Kostka learned to peel tubra.  Why Iggy named the place after Sant'Andrea I do not know and Wikipedia does not say.

I also have a vague reflection of some kind of a scavenger hunt at STA where one of the clews was, "Great white ghost, Itchy belly.  Someone stole his staff, J. Kelly?"

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:55 AM James Kelly <jkjr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Today's scripture reading cites Jesus calling Andrew from his boat  Can someone help this octogenarian know why our novitiate was called ST ANDREW's.  And please be simple. Remember, I was in Bermingham's B class Gratefully, still, in so many ways,  a novice, jim kelly

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[Bob Goger]

Dave:  This is literally monumental.  Well done, Brother.

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[Jack Hogan]

Wow, Dave well done.

I would’ve guessed it was named after a golf course in Scotland.

On a trip that Renee and I took to Mykenos Island in Greece, in 2001, we sat down for dinner at a table with a British couple. As we shared our life stories, I mentioned that, after high school I entered a seminary called St. Andrew’s. The British gentleman’s face lit up and he interrupted me and beamed, “So you are an Episcopalian priest? I never would have guessed”.

STA179

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[Gerry Drummond]

I video-Vibered with Bill Kreutz last night Sunday c 9PM NJ time 10AM next day Philippine time for at least an hour. He was in his Loyola House room; I was in my stuffed den. He asked me if I knew what tomorrow was in USA?  And I correctly said “St Andrew’s Day”.

BTW. Bill said he understood the “HAUSTUS “ had a more thorough email list and asked me get it for  him. 

I said I’d ask around. But Cody’s was the one I used. 

(BOY DO WE MISS BOB CURTIS THESE DAYS!)

Bill also said his STA number was 249. I couldn’t remember mine, though a number did pop into my head. If Mike Egan remembers his, mine may be the one before his?

STA ALL DAY TODAY!  CELEBRATE! 

While We defend the truth and the facts from the conspiracy cultists and the conmen and conwomen who still spread their lies. 

You have to see 60 Minutes Interview with TRUMP’S  FIRED CYBER SECURITY CHIEF CHRIS KREBS from Homeland Security on Sunday Nov 29,2020. 

The damage continues. . . 70% of Republicans —thanks to  Trump’s continued tweeted lies— falsely believe the  2020 presidential election was rigged.

Meantime, pray to St Andrew to help me find my sister to continue our bi-weekly phone calls and end the elderly abuse she now faces isolated and hidden from family and the world by her controlling and non-communicating daughters who sold her house two months ago and, as NJ Ombudsman just told me, snatched her from her nursing home with no forwarding address. (the home sale proceeds should be going towards her healthcare. )

COVID-19 HAS INCREASED DOMESTIC AND ELDERLY ABUSE.

BTW-My first grandchild is “ANDREW GERARD.”

Peace,

Gerry

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On Monday, November 30, 2020, 9:55 AM, James Kelly <jkjr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Today's scripture reading cites Jesus calling Andrew from his boat  Can someone help this octogenarian know why our novitiate was called ST ANDREW's.  And please be simple. Remember, I was in Bermingham's B class Gratefully, still, in so many ways,  a novice, jim kelly

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[Christopher Conroy]

Unfortunately for all of you I can never miss an opportunity to remind you that the greatest honor ever accorded me in the Society was being designated laundry

Number One  at St Andrew. The Masier told me they kept adding new laundry
numbers without going back to One until I came along. 

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On Nov 30, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Gerry Drummond <gerryd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

 I video-Vibered with Bill Kreutz last night Sunday c 9PM NJ time 10AM next day Philippine time for at least an hour. He was in his Loyola House room; I was in my stuffed den. He asked me if I knew what tomorrow was in USA?  And I correctly said “St Andrew’s Day”.

[jack podsiadlo]

Happy feast of St. Andrew to all. 

Today's gospel tells us that Andrew, along with brother Peter and neighbors Jamees and John were fishermen in first century Galilee - essential workers and bottom rung of the economy of the Roman empire. Theirs  was backbreaking work, done at night and not always successful, as the gospels tell us. Rome controlled the rights of who could fish and where. Perhaps that's why we read today that Andrew and Peter were casting a net from the shore while James and John were in a boat with their father Zebedee and some day laborers. The Galilean fishermen didn't sell their catch on the open market, but rather to the fish processors in nearby towns like Magdela where Mary of Magdala lived. In John's gospel, when Jesus asks where they could get bread to feed all the people who spent the day listening to Jesus preach, Andrew responds that he found a boy in the crowd with five loaves of barley bread and two fish - processed, dried and smoked, These Galilean fishermen, essential workers for the Roman Empire, follow Jesus and become the essential workers in the early church. Not a bad advancement.

With respect to Sant' Andrea al Quirinale, our beloved history profession, Billy Bangert has three citation in the revised edition of The History of the Society of Jesus: one concerning the church and two about the novitiate but no information pertinent to this conversation - just architects and style of the church and famous novices like Stan. In his book, The First Jesuits, John O'Malley has no reference to Sant' Andrea but under "novices and novitiates" presents a history of the development of novitiate formation from a rather fluid period of time to the codification for all novitiates at the First Congregation. It was basically what we went through sixty some years ago.But nothing like it is today. Who will take up the task of further research on Sant' Andra al Quirinale? But we zoom. 

Jack

 

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[Bob Goger]

Jack:  could be the table-setting of a sparkling homily.  

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[James Kelly]

Hi Brian -  Wow!! Good memory.. So it wasn't anything Ignatian-deep but simply the contingency of time.. Well, maybe that is Ignatian - finding God in all things, even the quotidian.. And thanks for all your good commentary. I read each and every one of them. pax, jim

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:27 AM Smith, Brian <smi...@ripon.edu> wrote:

JR, was it that the cornerstone was laid on Nov. 30th? (1903??) -- feast of St. Andrew.

Something in back of my mind tells me this might be it.

Brian Smith

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 8:55 AM James Kelly <jkjr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Today's scripture reading cites Jesus calling Andrew from his boat  Can someone help this octogenarian know why our novitiate was called ST ANDREW's.  And please be simple. Remember, I was in Bermingham's B class Gratefully, still, in so many ways,  a novice, jim kelly

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