Codice Foundation, http://www.codice.org/

[John Scott]

Hi All:

We (Kit Plummer, Andy Goodson, Kelly Plummer and I) have setup a non profit foundation to hold open source software works, funded full or in part by the US Government.
here: http://www.codice.org/

Why?

The need was created due to the DDF codebase coming out of Lockheed Martin with support of the Government. LMCO wanted a neutral place to assign the copyright to so that people would feel comfortable donating their IP works to the project and not to one defense contractor. Big kudos to LMCO, Andy and Mike Menosek for doing this. (btw DDF is LGPL so Apache couldn't take it).
http://codice.github.io/ddf/

Our goal is to use what works and copy the Apache Foundation with some OSI thrown in. It is a non-profit focused on software developers and Government users/brethren. We have set up an incubation process and anticipate helping the government learn how to 'develop open' large technological systems.

We see this as a home for US Government technology projects that need one. Projects that have wider appeal should go to other groups like the Apache Foundation, Eclipse, etc. especially if there is an OSS group you can link up to.

We are working toward having the Government participate in some fashion with the board, as well.

FAQ:

- we're setup a google group here: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/codice-foundation

- These are early days: with only a few of us there is much left to do and welcome volunteers especially if you have projects you might like to bring into the fold.

- We have not settled on what a membership model will or could be, but will more than likely be tied to specific projects like Apache

- We are endeavoring to have a US government liaison appointed to the Codice Board.

- Neither Kit, Andy nor I, really enjoy setting up non-profits late at night.


Ultimately this is a Public-Private partnership for the purposes of simplifying how government funded works are managed in the open.

In Dans words time to "JFDI" - the f is silent (http://risacher.org/blog/)

js

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[Kit Plummer]

On 6/27/13 9:51 AM, Karl Fogel wrote:

> +1000
>
> When I clicked on "The Board", the resulting page didn't list the actual
> board members: http://www.codice.org/governance/the-board (I realize
> you're still adding some, as you said above, but still good to show the
> current ones).
>
> Is the expectation that usually by the time a project proposes itself
> for incubation, it's already got code and other materials, perhaps even
> in production-ready state, and it's going to transfer them to Codice?
> (I.e., Does Codice ever get involved at earlier stages, when the project
> is still just an idea?)
>
> Congratulations on launching!

Thanks Karl. It's been exciting so far...and we're lining up the next
few projects for incubation now.

+1 on the board list. Not sure why we've not updated that yet...will do.

Good question on the "incubation" thing. I'm a bit split on this.
Here's my take:

Codice doesn't have the overhead to "manage" ideas,
hacks/whacks/scratches, or projects that maybe can't sustain a
community. So, while I'd love to be able to support these things - it's
an absolute must that we adjudicate anything for its potential for
community. Obviously the intent for "incubation" is to get projects to
production-ready (which could include some level of
certification/testing). I do think we believe Codice provides the
advisers that could help projects get from idea state to incubation,
especially where IP is concerned. That said there's probably some give
where projects/ideas are related to existing Codice projects. I know
that Apache supports that too.

What's your take Karl?

Kit

>
> -K
>

[Hadrian Zbarcea]

 

We have set up an incubation process and anticipate helping the government learn how to 'develop open' large technological systems.

The ASF recognized early on that project governance and community building is paramount for developing high-quality projects. Therefore the role of the incubator at the ASF is to help the community grow and become self-sustained (attract new committers, go through the release process at least once, etc). One important criterion for graduation (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements) is diversity. If I understand it correctly the role of the incubator at Codice is different, correct?

 

- We have not settled on what a membership model will or could be, but will more than likely be tied to specific projects like Apache

At Apache each project operates independently and oversight for a project is provided by the member of the PMC (project management committee). Then there are the Apache members, who provide oversight for the foundation as a whole. The ASF members elect the board who appoints the officers among other things. Is the vision for Codice to have a similar structure, or it hasn't been decided yet?

[John Scott]

Hi Andy, 

Yes, we are working toward having a DoD rep assigned/involved with Codice since it will be shepherding taxpayer funded source code. 

Maybe a month out we'll be able to announce that 

js

On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:12 PM, andy e <virtu...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is pretty awesome.

A naive question on my part but maybe it'll help someone else out later on.

We (my team) would love to see one or two projects of ours released as open source. We don't always have enough push/tenacity within the gov't to succeed - at least we haven't so far. Various COTRs/directors have approved but we always hit a wall in security/contracts. 

Will Codice have any gov't advocates that can say "Yes, this is a good thing" and help make that happen? It looks like that is the case (re: the board membership note below) so maybe this question is moot for now.

Thanks,

andy

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[John Scott]

yes we are looking to have a very sillier structure to the ASF for Codice since it has worked so well!

thanks

js

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[John Scott]

ack, damn fingers and autocorrect
SIMILAR !!

On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Karl Fogel <kfo...@red-bean.com> wrote:

> John Scott <jms...@gmail.com> writes:

>> yes we are looking to have a very sillier structure to the ASF for
>> Codice since it has worked so well!
>

> If that's not a Freudian typo, I don't cigar what is!
>
> -K

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