Kick-off meeting summary

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Steve Maddison

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Jun 7, 2012, 7:31:33 AM6/7/12
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Hi all,

Our kick-off meeting yesterday evening was a great success. Thanks to
all of you took the time to drop by! Here's a quick round-up of what
we discussed:

Locations:
We are in the lucky situation that two organisations have offered
space for our Dojo: Competa IT (Rijswijk) and Revelation Space
(Binkchorst). Both are great locations with their own advantages and
disadvantages. Our next meeting will be at RevSpace, so we can all get
a good idea of both. No decision has yet been made where our first
session will take place.

Recruiting Mentors:
We have enough mentors to get started, but the more the better! We
should all be on the lookout for potential volunteers. Jim has offered
to concentrate on this area the coming weeks. Raymond is going to
shoot a mail out to the Dutch hackerspaces mailing list. Hopefully
when the Dojo gets going, publicity will increase attracting more
mentors.

Advertising/Marketing to Participants:
We've decided to initially focus around the 12-18 age range, so mainly
secondary school pupils. Hans has some contacts in this area who may
be able to help spread the word. Through colleagues at Competa IT we
also have contacts with a large number of primary schools. Steve is
going to seek contact with a PR person and knock up some
flyers/posters to hand out/hang up at schools, etc. Erwin is going to
work on a presentation (or was that for recruiting mentors?).

Subjects to Teach:
This will largely be determined by what the participants themselves
want to learn, but posibilities include:
* HTML/CSS/JavaScript
* Scratch (http://scratch.mit.edu/)
* Alice (http://alice.org/)
* Arduino
There are written tutorials for many subjects on kata.coderdojo.com
but these will probably need translating into Dutch.

Planning our First Session:
We're going to aim around the end of the school summer vacation for
our first session, probably the end of August. This means spreading
the word before the vacation starts in about a month.

Other Stuff:
Forum/website: Steve is going to look into setting up a forum for
general Dojo communictaion (the Google Group is more for
organisers/mentors).
PaaS: Maybe use PaaS services for development environments, e.g.
OpenShift (https://openshift.redhat.com/), Heroku
(http://www.heroku.com/)

Next Meeting:
The next meeting will be at 19:00 on 20th June at RevSpace
(https://revspace.nl/). No registration necessary this time.

Comments/questions/additions/corrections welcome, as ever. Until the
next time... Be cool!

Cheers,

Steve

PS. Those of you receiving this directly via email, please don't
forget to join the Google Groups mailing list:
http://groups.google.com/group/coderdojo-denhaag/

Hans de Goede

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Jun 10, 2012, 9:32:28 AM6/10/12
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Hi All,

On 06/07/2012 01:31 PM, Steve Maddison wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Advertising/Marketing to Participants:
> We've decided to initially focus around the 12-18 age range, so mainly
> secondary school pupils. Hans has some contacts in this area who may
> be able to help spread the word.

Right, so one of these contacts is my wife, who teaches mathematics at
a local secondary school, and I've talked to her about this.

The end result is that I think we should scrap our original plan
were we try to borrow 10 minutes from a scheduled class to present
ourselves to the pupils. The problem with this plan is that your
average secondary school in the Netherlands has many many classes, so
this way you either reach only a small percentage of the pupils on a
particular school, and/or you're spending a lot of time on this.

After some more discussion with her, I've come to the conclusion that
our best way forward before the summer holidays is to have a poster
+ some flyers, and hangup the poster on various secondary schools and
give the flyers to interested teachers for them to hand out to
potentially interested students.

My wife has volunteerd to hang up posters at a few locations of her
school, as well as to hand out flyers herself and find some other
math. teachers at her school to hand them out.

After the summer holiday, one option would be to organize an coderdojo
meet in a secondary school, rather then in our own location, to lower
the barrier to entry for pupils of *that* school. Most secondary schools
have one day of the week when there are no classes scheduled in the
afternoon, iow this afternoon is reserved for extracurricular activities.

###

Another possible way to reach potential pupils my wife mentioned is something
called hb015, which stands for Hoogbegaafdheid 015 (Delft), and is a platform
for parents of "highly gifted" children.

###

One thing which we did not discuss is at what time/day of the week the
coderdojo will have its "classes" nor with which frequency. I think it
would be good to have some idea of this, so that when people have
questions about this we have some answers to them.

Regards,

Hans

Jim

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Jun 11, 2012, 3:45:37 AM6/11/12
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I think it would be best for our mentors (certainly for me) to have the CoderDojo's on weekends, or at least outside working hours.
I frequently have to work in Amsterdam, and it is not possible for me to take time off in order to attend the Dojo.

Cheers,

Jim

10 June 2012 15:32
Hi All,
7 June 2012 13:31
Hi all,

Our kick-off meeting yesterday evening was a great success. Thanks to
all of you took the time to drop by! Here's a quick round-up of what
we discussed:

Locations:
We are in the lucky situation that two organisations have offered
space for our Dojo: Competa IT (Rijswijk) and Revelation Space
(Binkchorst). Both are great locations with their own advantages and
disadvantages. Our next meeting will be at RevSpace, so we can all get
a good idea of both. No decision has yet been made where our first
session will take place.

Recruiting Mentors:
We have enough mentors to get started, but the more the better! We
should all be on the lookout for potential volunteers. Jim has offered
to concentrate on this area the coming weeks. Raymond is going to
shoot a mail out to the Dutch hackerspaces mailing list. Hopefully
when the Dojo gets going, publicity will increase attracting more
mentors.

Advertising/Marketing to Participants:
We've decided to initially focus around the 12-18 age range, so mainly
secondary school pupils. Hans has some contacts in this area who may

Steve Maddison

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Jun 11, 2012, 4:06:47 AM6/11/12
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On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Hans de Goede <j.w.r....@gmail.com> wrote:
> After some more discussion with her, I've come to the conclusion that
> our best way forward before the summer holidays is to have a poster
> + some flyers, and hangup the poster on various secondary schools and
> give the flyers to interested teachers for them to hand out to
> potentially interested students.

OK! I've had a chat with our fabulous PR person in the office and
she's working on how we can best get our message across. Should hear
more this week, then I'll get started on the posters/flyers. Anyone
able to (easily) print off a few colour posters larger than A4 size?

> After the summer holiday, one option would be to organize an coderdojo
> meet in a secondary school, rather then in our own location, to lower
> the barrier to entry for pupils of *that* school. Most secondary schools
> have one day of the week when there are no classes scheduled in the
> afternoon, iow this afternoon is reserved for extracurricular activities.

I think this is worth looking into but lowering the barrier for one
school may effectively raise it for another, which I don't think we
want to do. It has also been mentioned by other dojos that it helps to
get kids out of thier normal learning environment.

> Another possible way to reach potential pupils my wife mentioned is
> something
> called hb015, which stands for Hoogbegaafdheid 015 (Delft), and is a
> platform
> for parents of "highly gifted" children.

Maybe we should get these guys mentoring ;-)

> One thing which we did not discuss is at what time/day of the week the
> coderdojo will have its "classes" nor with which frequency. I think it
> would be good to have some idea of this, so that when people have
> questions about this we have some answers to them.

Indeed - I think weekends are the best bet, maybe Saturdays. Evenings
are OK but the time between mentors being able to get there and coders
having to leave already is probably a bit limited. I guess the
frequency will depend on demand but maybe start off fortnightly of
even monthly and see how it goes?

Cheers,

Steve

Jim

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Jun 11, 2012, 4:12:29 AM6/11/12
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> It has also been mentioned by other dojos that it helps to get kids out of thier normal learning environment. 

I agree with this completely. Kids might be afraid to come out of their shells if they are in their daily school environment. Giving them a completely separate and safe place in which to try new things is they way to go imo. Also, having kids from different schools and towns working together could allow for cross polintation of ideas and ways of thinking.

> Maybe we should get these guys mentoring ;-) 

I am a HUGE fan of the idea of older / more advanced kids mentoring.


11 June 2012 10:06
10 June 2012 15:32
Hi All,



Right, so one of these contacts is my wife, who teaches mathematics at
a local secondary school, and I've talked to her about this.

The end result is that I think we should scrap our original plan
were we try to borrow 10 minutes from a scheduled class to present
ourselves to the pupils. The problem with this plan is that your
average secondary school in the Netherlands has many many classes, so
this way you either reach only a small percentage of the pupils on a
particular school, and/or you're spending a lot of time on this.

After some more discussion with her, I've come to the conclusion that
our best way forward before the summer holidays is to have a poster
+ some flyers, and hangup the poster on various secondary schools and
give the flyers to interested teachers for them to hand out to
potentially interested students.

My wife has volunteerd to hang up posters at a few locations of her
school, as well as to hand out flyers herself and find some other
math. teachers at her school to hand them out.

After the summer holiday, one option would be to organize an coderdojo
meet in a secondary school, rather then in our own location, to lower
the barrier to entry for pupils of *that* school. Most secondary schools
have one day of the week when there are no classes scheduled in the
afternoon, iow this afternoon is reserved for extracurricular activities.

###

Another possible way to reach potential pupils my wife mentioned is something
called hb015, which stands for Hoogbegaafdheid 015 (Delft), and is a platform
for parents of "highly gifted" children.

###

One thing which we did not discuss is at what time/day of the week the
coderdojo will have its "classes" nor with which frequency. I think it
would be good to have some idea of this, so that when people have
questions about this we have some answers to them.

Regards,

Hans

7 June 2012 13:31
Hi all,

Our kick-off meeting yesterday evening was a great success. Thanks to
all of you took the time to drop by! Here's a quick round-up of what
we discussed:

Locations:
We are in the lucky situation that two organisations have offered
space for our Dojo: Competa IT (Rijswijk) and Revelation Space
(Binkchorst). Both are great locations with their own advantages and
disadvantages. Our next meeting will be at RevSpace, so we can all get
a good idea of both. No decision has yet been made where our first
session will take place.

Recruiting Mentors:
We have enough mentors to get started, but the more the better! We
should all be on the lookout for potential volunteers. Jim has offered
to concentrate on this area the coming weeks. Raymond is going to
shoot a mail out to the Dutch hackerspaces mailing list. Hopefully
when the Dojo gets going, publicity will increase attracting more
mentors.

Advertising/Marketing to Participants:
We've decided to initially focus around the 12-18 age range, so mainly
secondary school pupils. Hans has some contacts in this area who may

Erwin van der Koogh

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Jun 20, 2012, 5:52:59 AM6/20/12
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Guys,

I am afraid I am going to have to pull out. I have just decided that I am going to really go for my startup instead of treating it just like a little side project. And one of the things that means is I am going to need to focus to prevent me from doing all of the things I am doing badly. I am really excited to have made this decision, cause I think it can make a slight dent in the universe and sad that I won't be able to get CoderDojo off the ground with you.

I'll keep lurking on the list just in case there is something I can easily contribute and I'll see if I have time to show up at the CoderDojos, but I am afraid I won't be able to help get this off the ground.
Sorry.

Erwin

Hans de Goede

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Jun 20, 2012, 6:35:49 AM6/20/12
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Hi,

2 things for the mentor meet tonight:

1) 2 revspace members are interested in maybe becoming mentors too, neither
one was sure if he could make it tonight, but we may have 2 guest tonight

2) Food / dinner. What are people planning doing for dinner? I plan to eat
at the space myself, ordering some chinese food from here:
http://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/allways-wok

If you want some too, let me know I plan to order around 18:00, then the food
is usually there around 19:00 . Note unlike our meet at competa, the food is
not sponsored here (but quite cheap).

Regards,

Hans

Steve Maddison

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Jun 20, 2012, 7:29:22 AM6/20/12
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> 1) 2 revspace members are interested in maybe becoming mentors too, neither
> one was sure if he could make it tonight, but we may have 2 guest tonight

Great stuff!

> 2) Food / dinner. What are people planning doing for dinner? I plan to eat
> at the space myself, ordering some chinese food from here:
> http://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/allways-wok
>
> If you want some too, let me know I plan to order around 18:00, then the
> food
> is usually there around 19:00 . Note unlike our meet at competa, the food is
> not sponsored here (but quite cheap).

I'd be up for chinese food too.

Cheers,

Steve

Steve Maddison

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Jun 20, 2012, 7:34:24 AM6/20/12
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Raymond Kuiper wrote:
> Ik ben er waarschijnlijk tussen 18.00 en 18.30 :)

Ik kan makkelijk 18.00 aanwezig zijn, Jim ook. Misschien dat we wat
eerder dan 19.00 kunnen beginnen?

-Steve

Steve Maddison

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Jun 20, 2012, 7:49:03 AM6/20/12
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Erwin van der Koogh <er...@koogh.com> wrote:
Guys,

I am afraid I am going to have to pull out. I have just decided that I am going to really go for my startup instead of treating it just like a little side project. And one of the things that means is I am going to need to focus to prevent me from doing all of the things I am doing badly. I am really excited to have made this decision, cause I think it can make a slight dent in the universe and sad that I won't be able to get CoderDojo off the ground with you.

Too bad we'll be losing you Erwin, but totally understandable. Best of luck with your new venture!
 
I'll keep lurking on the list just in case there is something I can easily contribute and I'll see if I have time to show up at the CoderDojos, but I am afraid I won't be able to help get this off the ground.
Sorry.

Thanks - hope to see you at a session now and again. Even if it's only occasional, it's a great help.

Cheers,

Steve

Hans de Goede

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Jun 20, 2012, 9:11:50 AM6/20/12
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Hoi,
Prima, aub wel even doorgeven wat exact je wilt (de wok gerechten zijn 1
persoons porties), voor opties zie:
http://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/allways-wok

MvG,

Hans

Hans de Goede

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Jun 20, 2012, 9:15:16 AM6/20/12
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Hoi,
Laten we even kijken hoe het loopt, als we er allemaal eerder
zijn kunnen we inderdaad eerder beginnen.

Groet,

Hans

Steve Maddison

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Jun 20, 2012, 9:45:00 AM6/20/12
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Wil de eerste die aankomt bij de space dan even mailen/sms-en? Dan komen we eraan!

-Steve

Hans de Goede

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Jun 20, 2012, 12:05:38 PM6/20/12
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Hoi,
Ik ben nu op de space.

MvG,

Hans
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