CODE FOR FREEDOM 2008-09 COMPLAINT

[Flavio Pinto Monteiro]

I come in this manner to launch a complaint against the "Code For Freedom 2008-09 Contest" evaluation team, specifically against Mr. Tirthankar Das and Mr. Amit Saha.

Both names I could read several times while competing on CFF as both were my instructors.

My complaint is about the CFF participation certificates distribution process which I did not understand what parameters the evaluation team applied to select those teams which deserved or not a participation certificate.

I send a copy of this email to the Embassy of my Country in New Delhi as I am an International student. I will forward this email to other concerned institutions if required until I get my participation certificate.

I expect both institutions have legal ways and procedures to discuss this matter.

It's not only me who have the same feeling as I've discussed with some of my colleagues in this competition and they don't understand as well WHY WE DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT FOR A PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATE. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF A PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATE AFTER ALL? DOES IT MEAN I HAVE TO OIL MY INSTRUCTORS??? I HAVE PARTICIPATED FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS ON THIS COMPETITION AND I HAVE MADE MY PROJECT TO THE FINALS I JUST DID NOT GET THE PRIZE. THEN WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO PARTICIPATE?

I want to underline a fact, I don't believe it's Sun Microsystems' fault in this case but few people in-charge of this competition behaved quite improperly.

I'm taking this case to defend my rights and I want to let Sun knows what happened in the CFF 08-09.

Regards.
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Flavio Pinto Monteiro

[Rohan Anil]

Hello,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Flavio Pinto Monteiro <flaviopint...@gmail.com> wrote:

I come in this manner to launch a complaint against the "Code For Freedom 2008-09 Contest" evaluation team, specifically against Mr. Tirthankar Das and Mr. Amit Saha.

Both names I could read several times while competing on CFF as both were my instructors.

As you know its VERY hard for two people to manage A LOT of students, and i think SUN , had this competition to promote opensource . If the community reacts badly to the competition  ( like you are doing now ) sun might decide Not to continue this next year ...

 

My complaint is about the CFF participation certificates distribution process which I did not understand what parameters the evaluation team applied to select those teams which deserved or not a participation certificate.

I send a copy of this email to the Embassy of my Country in New Delhi as I am an International student. I will forward this email to other concerned institutions if required until I get my participation certificate.

I expect both institutions have legal ways and procedures to discuss this matter.

It's not only me who have the same feeling as I've discussed with some of my colleagues in this competition and they don't understand as well WHY WE DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT FOR A PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATE. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF A PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATE AFTER ALL? DOES IT MEAN I HAVE TO OIL MY INSTRUCTORS??? I HAVE PARTICIPATED FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS ON THIS COMPETITION AND I HAVE MADE MY PROJECT TO THE FINALS I JUST DID NOT GET THE PRIZE. THEN WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO PARTICIPATE?

Did you try talking to them ? personal mail ? Sending the mail on the entire list will do more bad than good.

 

I want to underline a fact, I don't believe it's Sun Microsystems' fault in this case but few people in-charge of this competition behaved quite improperly.

I'm taking this case to defend my rights and I want to let Sun knows what happened in the CFF 08-09.

Regards.
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Flavio Pinto Monteiro

regards
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Rohan Anil
IVth Year Information Systems
BITS Pilani Goa Campus

[sushant kumar]

Just talk to any one one them dear. They are such a nice people. 

Their might be communication gap/ delays. I am  sure, you wont complain anything, once you talk.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Flavio Pinto Monteiro <flaviopint...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[SheikhAman]

Yes Dear.
talk to them directly, talk to Amit, he's such a good person..i am
saying this since i have personal experiences talking to him.
he'll surely solve the matter.
and will be having an answer at least.

The competitions was to promote open source activity indeed..as Rohan
said..so its not about getting a certificate, at least fr me, i know i
have participated, and i know i couldn't submit the final
project..thats enough for me.

but dear, if u still feel bad, please question them directly before
going into legal consequences..

On Aug 27, 8:45 pm, Flavio Pinto Monteiro

[Balachandran Sivakumar]

Hi Flavio

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Flavio Pinto
Monteiro<flaviopint...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> My complaint is about the CFF participation certificates distribution
> process which I did not understand what parameters the evaluation team
> applied to select those teams which deserved or not a participation
> certificate.
>

You are making a complaint inspite of not understanding the
parameters that determine whether a participant deserves participation
or not. That is not a good sign of things.
>

But I wish to explain one thing. A contest in software is
different from other kinds of contests. The point that software is
different from other things is the center of all the drive against
software patents and free software. So, as in other contests, the
argument that mere participation and submission of code need not be
the only qualification for obtaining a participation certificate.

Anybody can submit anything and say s/he had completed the
project. But, for a contest of this level, there are a lot of other
things to be considered before issuing a certificate. Please
understand that, participation in these contests should not be for the
sake of certificates, but for the sake of learning. If you had at
least learnt one new concept in these six months, then you have got
something more valuable than a mere participation certificate. Thanks

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[Ashwin Bhat K S]

Flavio,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Flavio Pinto Monteiro <flaviopint...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

My complaint is about the CFF participation certificates distribution process which I did not understand what parameters the evaluation team applied to select those teams which deserved or not a participation certificate.

I send a copy of this email to the Embassy of my Country in New Delhi as I am an International student. I will forward this email to other concerned institutions if required until I get my participation certificate.

</snip>

My 1 cent -

1. Instead of writing all these mails you could have spent your time in writing a netbeans plugin or a javafx application or learning some technology of your interest. It would help you get more knowledge thereby making productive usage of your time and energy which in turn reduces spam ! Certificate will not take you anywhere. Knowledge and relevant experience will. Embassies have bigger worries like tackling swine flu pandemic. Its not a good time to spam them about CFF.

[Flavio Pinto Monteiro]

Hi mate, I see you don't want to understand what I mean by a PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATE, it's just part of my career as it marks a step on this career.

At this precise moment I'm working in a new project on Ruby On Rails, so my research keeps on going as reading and replying to the group emails just consumes 10 mins of my time.

We have more than 30 other Mozambicans students in Pune and we decided to take prevention instead of waiting for one to get sick so that we can think about the swine flu.

Regards.

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Flavio Pinto Monteiro