Chucker in El Paso county

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Matt

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Nov 6, 2020, 4:42:20 PM11/6/20
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Hey there?
Is there any contact or visitor information for going to see the Chucker in the Springs?

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Matt Newport
Aurora

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linda hodges

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Nov 6, 2020, 5:35:17 PM11/6/20
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Matt,

The person reporting the Chukar isn't known by the general Colorado Springs birding community, so we've no way of contacting her.

Also, it's my understanding that the only wild Chukars are on the Western Slope, so this bird is likely one that was to be used for hunting purposes. For that reason, it's not officially considered "countable." (Similar to the Bobwhites that are seen at Chico Basin Ranch from time to time. Again, brought in to be hunted.)

Just my 2 cents.

Linda Hodges
Colorado Springs

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Edward Jurkouich

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Nov 7, 2020, 9:27:50 AM11/7/20
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I'm thinking the vast majority of Ring-necked Pheasants shouldn't be countable either. How many generations away from the released ancestor does it have to be to be countable?
Count it and enjoy the bird. The strict science is taking all the fun out of this pastime.


Cinnamon Bergeron

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Nov 7, 2020, 9:27:50 AM11/7/20
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Matt, 

I went to see the Chukar. I can get you the lady’s name and contact info if you want to go see it. It has been hanging around her back yard. It’s a beautiful bird.   Call me at 719-639-1613

Cinnamon Bergeron 

Dave Cameron

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Nov 8, 2020, 11:36:25 AM11/8/20
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The science isn't really all that strict.  A self-sustaining (ie, breeding on their own in the wild, and that being where they came from) population becomes countable.  This gives us Purple Swamphen after a couple of generations, Rosy-faced Lovebird in Phx, and certainly Ring-necked Pheasants.  Escaped Parrots, on the other hand, that might be living outdoors for years because they live for years, doesn't make them wild, if they're not an established breeding population.  Birds that were raised in a box and let loose in a field for hunters are not wild.  


Dave Cameron
Denver

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