Couch's Kingbird Feather Conditions - Arapahoe

[Jared Del Rosso]

I enjoy reading Birds of the World, but I don't understand plumages, molts, and the terminology used to describe them. So it's hard for me to understand what the Couch's Kingbird currently at Marjorie Perry Nature Preserve in Arapahoe County should look like. But the bird, who I visited for the first time this afternoon, looks to be really worn to me. Could someone out there who both has access to Birds of the World and understands the terms of molting, offer some perspective on this?

Here's a couple photos from this afternoon that show what I mean.

- Jared Del Rosso

Centennial, CO

[Paul Malinowski]

Jared, I noticed that too this afternoon. Look at the bare spots in this photo as well as the worn feathers.

Paul Malinowski

Littleton, CO

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[David Suddjian]

Jared, This BIRD BOMBS episode I'm Molting! offers a good primer on feather molt in our birds. 

David

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[Nathan Pieplow]

Hi all,

I got a spread-wing photo of the Couch's Kingbird that shows not all the flight feathers are worn:

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/666136706

The outermost two primaries, P10 and P9, are very worn, but the next few are fresh. Comparing their shapes with those at https://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/kingbirdsX.htm makes it clear that the Colorado Couch's must be a female. I suspect it is a juvenile female, based on molt pattern, primary shapes, and the bare patches in the underwing visible in Paul Malinowski's photo, but I am not great at ageing birds by molt, so I'd love to hear other opinions. Juveniles are not supposed to have the orange crown patch which many people (not me) reported seeing.

Nathan Pieplow

Boulder

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[Woodcreeper29]

Hi all just a quick comment on the reddish crown patch, I have several photos that show the patch on this bird.

Steve Larson

Northglenn 

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On Oct 12, 2026, at 6:05 PM, Nathan Pieplow <npie...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all,

I got a spread-wing photo of the Couch's Kingbird that shows not all the flight feathers are worn:

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/666136706

The outermost two primaries, P10 and P9, are very worn, but the next few are fresh. Comparing their shapes with those at https://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/kingbirdsX.htm makes it clear that the Colorado Couch's must be a female. I suspect it is a juvenile female, based on molt pattern, primary shapes, and the bare patches in the underwing visible in Paul Malinowski's photo, but I am not great at ageing birds by molt, so I'd love to hear other opinions. Juveniles are not supposed to have the orange crown patch which many people (not me) reported seeing.

Nathan Pieplow

Boulder

On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 8:45 AM David Suddjian <dsud...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jared, This BIRD BOMBS episode I'm Molting! offers a good primer on feather molt in our birds. 

David

On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 7:30 AM Paul Malinowski <pilla...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jared, I noticed that too this afternoon. Look at the bare spots in this photo as well as the worn feathers.

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Paul Malinowski

Littleton, CO

On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 6:49 PM Jared Del Rosso <jared.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

I enjoy reading Birds of the World, but I don't understand plumages, molts, and the terminology used to describe them. So it's hard for me to understand what the Couch's Kingbird currently at Marjorie Perry Nature Preserve in Arapahoe County should look like. But the bird, who I visited for the first time this afternoon, looks to be really worn to me. Could someone out there who both has access to Birds of the World and understands the terms of molting, offer some perspective on this?

Here's a couple photos from this afternoon that show what I mean.

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[T. Luke George]

A hatch year bird would not be molting wing feathers at this time of year so it must be an after hatch year.

Luke 

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[Paul Malinowski]

Interesting link, Nathan. Thank you. Here's a photo I got Friday showing the distinct orange crown patch on her.

Paul Malinowski

Littleton, CO 

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[Buzz Schaumberg]

Thank you.

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[Colin Woolley]

This looks like what we'd call a second-year bird (hatched in 2025 and now in its 2nd calendar year). Young kingbirds will often undergo an eccentric pre-formative molt, meaning they replace outer primaries and inner secondaries in their first fall. This is fairly unusual (but the norm for kingbirds) as for most species, young birds won't replace any flight feathers in their first fall. However, the eccentric molt pattern will start somewhere in the middle of the primaries and proceed outward, while also starting in the middle of the secondaries and proceed inwards, such that juvenile flight feathers (inner primaries and outer secondaries) are still retained through the first cycle. In this bird we see that the molt started with p1 and is going outward, and has made it as far as p8, with p9-p10 still retained but likely to drop soon. The secondaries have also started to molt, beginning with s1. This is the standard pre-basic molt pattern seen in adult birds, and not the eccentric pre-formative we'd see in a young bird. The cool part here is, because the outer p9-10 are clearly juvenile based on shape, we can say that this bird is undergoing its 2nd pre-basic molt (i.e. starting its 2nd cycle). If the p9-10 had already dropped and started growing in anew, we wouldn't be able to tell a second-year from any bird that could be older. This also means that this kingbird didn't molt outer primaries during its pre-formative molt last fall, which according to the Pyle Guide is not as common but may be seen more often in COKI in particular compared to other kingbirds. That also explains why the p9-10 are so very worn out; they are juvenile feathers and perhaps 16+ months old at this point and have more wear and tear than any feather this bird will have the rest of its life. Here's a diagram based on this photo from eBird.

Having so many photos of this individual bird in the Macauley Library is great, and shows how valuable this resource is for studying molt. Keep taking pictures of messy, molty birds!

Colin Woolley

Wheat Ridge

[Nathan Pieplow]

Thanks, Colin. This is precisely the analysis I hoped someone would provide!

Nathan Pieplow

Boulder

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[Jared Del Rosso]

Yes, same here. Thank you, Colin.

Will be interesting / revelatory to see if the bird persists here through the cold and rain weather -- and the forecast frost on Friday morning.

- Jared Del Rosso

Centennial, CO