Official Response from CPW About Use of State Wildlife Areas

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Jul 10, 2020, 10:47:07 PM7/10/20
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Hello Fellow Birders,

I have received an official response from CPW concerning use of SWAs for birding, hiking, etc.  This came from their Communication Center in response to my inquiry about being allowed onto properties that do not allow fishing, if all I have is a fishing license.  I have pasted below what I believe to be the salient portion of their reply:

You are correct, a valid hunting or fishing license will be required for everyone 18 or older attempting to access any State Wildlife Area or State Trust Land leased by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, beginning July 1. This does not apply to State Parks. (SWA FAQ)

Even if the property doesn't have fishing opportunities, a license is still required.

SWAs are intended for wildlife habitat and wildlife-related recreation (hunting and fishing). Unlike national forests or local government parks, SWAs are not “public lands” that provide for multi-use recreation. Most SWAs provide important resting, feeding, birthing, or breeding areas for Colorado wildlife. In that way, year ‘round outdoor recreation may have negative impacts on the wildlife populations in those areas. The license requirement is an effort to limit multi-use recreation on these properties, not encourage it. While hikers, photographers, birders, and others may in fact be recreating by watching wildlife, only those with a hunting or fishing license are contributing to the purchase and maintenance of these properties.

...I'm hoping this response from CPW answers everyone's questions and concerns about SWA access.

Keep Smilin',
Kevin Corwin, west Centennial, Arapahoe

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Ira Sanders

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Jul 11, 2020, 1:54:28 PM7/11/20
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Birders,
Tammy bought a fishing license so she could fish on SWA lands and of course birdwatch.  She was forced to buy a habitat stamp at the same time. For those of you who don't know what that is, it covers you for the cost of search and rescue if they have to come and find you if you get lost or injured and search and rescue has to come and get you out there. I don't believe I have seen that mentioned anywhere in any of the discussions of the issue that has been discussed in this thread.
Ira Sanders
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Pam Piombino

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Jul 11, 2020, 2:08:07 PM7/11/20
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I stopped in Poudre Canyon to buy my senior fishing license to legally enter to SWAs on my way to North Park.  I tried to buy a habitat stamp at the same time, but the clerk had no idea how to sell me one.  I am surprised that Tammy was forced to purchase one at the same time.  I always thought it was optional; am I mistaken?

Do chime in to the CPW that you want to be counted as a wildlife watcher rather than a fisherperson or hunter if you don't fit into those categories.  Polly Reetz sent an email today with contacts.

Pam Piombino

Charles Hundertmark

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Jul 11, 2020, 2:23:35 PM7/11/20
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My understanding is the habitat stamp is required in addition to the hunting or fishing license for those between ages 18-65. If you are over 65, the habitat stamp is not required. Good article on the situation in the June issue of DFO’s The Lark Bunting https://dfobirds.org/News/Archives/2020-2029/2020/06_Jun_2020_LB.pdf

Chuck Hundertmark
Lafayette, CO

Rachel Kolokoff Hopper

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:04:12 PM7/11/20
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If you are under 65 you must buy a habitat stamp with your fishing/hunting license. 65 and over it is not required. If you buy a license online it is automatically added to your purchase.

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Ira Sanders

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:45:02 PM7/11/20
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So, if you are over 65 and don't have a habitat stamp and search and rescue services comes to your aid, are you covered or do you have to reimburse for those services?
Ira Sanders

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:54:42 PM7/11/20
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I have never heard or read that the Habitat Stamp has anything to do with search & rescue. However, it is my understanding that some of the money from hunting/fishing licenses and the Habitat Stamp go to Colorado Search & Rescue as financial support. Here is information about Colorado Search & Rescue:  https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Boating/SearchAndRescueFAQ.pdf

Habitat Stamp

The purchase of a Habitat Stamp ($10) provides the core funding for the Colorado Wildlife Habitat Protection Program (CWHP). Anyone applying for, or buying a hunting and fishing license in the state of Colorado, must also purchase a Habitat Stamp. The Habitat Stamp provides the means for CPW to work with private landowners, local governments, and conservation organizations to protect important fish and wildlife habitat and provide outdoor spaces.

REASONS TO SUPPORT THE HABITAT STAMP

Since 2007, the Colorado Wildlife Habitat Stamp has grown into one of our state’s most important conservation programs and has:

  • Conserved 253,000 acres of key wildlife habitat
  • Secured 121,500 acres of public access
  • Protected approximately 36 miles of fishing access

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Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
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Norm Lewis

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As soon as this policy was announced, I purchased my (senior) fishing license online.  On the license it breaks down the cost (which at $9.85 is a bargain), and there is a small charge noted for Search and Rescue.  So if you are of a certain age and purchase a senior pass, you have paid for the S&R function in the price of the license.

Norm Lewis
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Jul 11, 2020, 6:33:39 PM7/11/20
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A common misconception among some anglers and hunters is that fishing and hunting licenses come with a free rescue from Colorado Search and Rescue in the event that one is needed. While it is true that a basic search and rescue operation is delivered at no charge, any operation requiring a helicopter or ambulance evacuation would incur charges from the operator, for which the victim is responsible.

The origin of the misconception is perhaps because 25 cents of the cost of hunting and fishing licenses goes into a Colorado Outdoor Recreation Search and Rescue (CORSAR) fund, leading some to believe that this is a kind of insurance card. And while the CORSAR fund reimburses search and rescue volunteers for things like fuel or food used during a rescue operation, or for equipment that is damaged or needs replacing, the fund does not pay for ambulance or helicopter services. The rescued individual must cover those costs.

“Through CORSAR fund grants, search and rescue teams and sheriffs can purchase equipment or send team members to search and rescue training courses,” according to the SAR website. “The CORSAR card is not ‘insurance’ nor is ‘insurance’ needed. When Colorado’s SAR carry out a search and rescue mission, they won’t bill you but you may incur costs such as ground or air ambulance.”

Hikers and bikers who use the backcountry but do not buy hunting or fishing licenses have the option to purchase a Colorado Outdoor Recreation Search and Rescue Card, known as the “CORSAR Card.”

Purchasing a CORSAR card is not necessary to receive search and rescue services. “But if a financially strapped county or SAR team accrues extraordinary costs over time, it may be difficult for them to properly respond to your emergency,” states the website.”

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Jan G

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So if I already have a CORSAR card do I also have to purchase a Habitat Stamp as well as a fishing license to bird at SWAs if I'm under 65??

Jan Gorski
Highlands Ranch, CO

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Jul 13, 2020, 9:26:06 PM7/13/20
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YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REIMBURSE SEARCH & RESCUE IN COLORADO AT ANY TIME!         

 

Colorado and the vast majority of states do not charge for search and rescue services.  Only New Hampshire can and does charge for Search & Rescue.  For more information on this see: https://www.facebook.com/NoChargeforRescue

 

Colorado’s CORSAR card is NOT insurance.  It allows people to think they are covering their rescue costs. At the end of the year each SAR group sends a bill to the state on how much they spent on SAR’s that year and they are partially reimbursed by the CORSAR fund. There is no guaranty that you will not get billed if you have a CORSAR card, but again, counties don’t charge for SAR.  SAR in Colorado and most states is controlled by the County sheriff.

 

There is NO CHARGE for helicopter operations either.  If the helicopter is a military helicopter it comes out of their training budget.  If it is a medical helicopter, then it can be billed under your medical insurance. However all of the medical helicopters in Colorado are extremely limited in what they can do not days and ONLY pick up medical cases, not rescues.  In the extremely rare instance now days that a medical chopper does assist in a rescue, they do not charge for it.

 

I’m the former attorney for the Mountain Rescue Association and a lot of the local SAR groups.  I’m also one of the admins of the Facebook page mentioned above. 

 

We/Sheriffs/SAR groups have learned that when people think that SAR costs they wait and do not request help, putting everyone at greater risk. Please get the word out to everyone to keep everyone safer that SAR in all states but New Hampshire is free.  #BoycottNH

 

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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Official Response from CPW About Use of State Wildlife Areas

 

So, if you are over 65 and don't have a habitat stamp and search and rescue services comes to your aid, are you covered or do you have to reimburse for those services?

Ira Sanders

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