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Leroy N. Soetoro

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May 22, 2012, 1:29:42 AM5/22/12
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ABC:

A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been
arrested after police determined they staged the incidents.

On Oct. 28, Aimee Whitchurch, 37, and Christel Conklin, 29, called
police and reported the words “Kill the Gay” were scrawled in red spray
paint on the garage door of their Parker, Colo., home.

The next day, the couple told deputies they found a noose hanging on the
handle of their front door.

The women told officers they believed the incidents were retaliation
from their neighbors and homeowner’s association, who had complained the
couple did not pick up after their dogs.

Due to the nature of the crimes, the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office
worked in tandem with the FBI to investigate. After reviewing witness
statements, authorities determined Whitchurch and Conklin had staged the
incidents.

Both women are charged with criminal mischief and false reporting.
Whitchurch faces an additional charge of forgery.

Comments:

STEVED95
Let me get this straight... if some scrawls "Kill the Gay" and turns out
to be a straight person then it is a hate crime. If a gay person scrawls
"Kill the Gay" to incite a certain type of behavior, then it is a local
matter and not a hate crime? No, they deserve to be charged with the same
crime that they were looking to pin on someone else-- justice for all.



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Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
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hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."

Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
York's million dollar tax evasion.

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deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
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deadrat

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May 22, 2012, 2:31:26 AM5/22/12
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On 5/22/12 12:29 AM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/05/20/Colorado-Lesbians-Face-F
> ake-Hate-Crimes-Charges
>
> ABC:
>
> A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been
> arrested after police determined they staged the incidents.
>
> On Oct. 28, Aimee Whitchurch, 37, and Christel Conklin, 29, called
> police and reported the words “Kill the Gay” were scrawled in red spray
> paint on the garage door of their Parker, Colo., home.
>
> The next day, the couple told deputies they found a noose hanging on the
> handle of their front door.
>
> The women told officers they believed the incidents were retaliation
> from their neighbors and homeowner’s association, who had complained the
> couple did not pick up after their dogs.
>
> Due to the nature of the crimes, the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office
> worked in tandem with the FBI to investigate. After reviewing witness
> statements, authorities determined Whitchurch and Conklin had staged the
> incidents.
>
> Both women are charged with criminal mischief and false reporting.
> Whitchurch faces an additional charge of forgery.
>
> Comments:
>
> STEVED95
> Let me get this straight....

Hey! Wait a minute. Is that a double entendre? Be that as it may, you
couldn't straighten a bent paperclip.

> if some scrawls "Kill the Gay" and turns out
> to be a straight person then it is a hate crime.
> If a gay person scrawls
> "Kill the Gay" to incite a certain type of behavior, then it is a local
> matter and not a hate crime?
> No, they deserve to be charged with the same
> crime that they were looking to pin on someone else-- justice for all.

It's hard to believe anyone can be this ignorant. Saying or writing
nasty things about gay people isn't usually a crime. If it were, half
the Republican party and most of their evangelical enablers would be in
jail. But the First Amendment won't allow that. If you say or write
nasty things about gay people while you're committing certain listed
crimes *and* the state can prove your crime was motivated by that
animus, then you may receive a harsher sentence upon conviction of the
listed crime. Intimidation (e.g., death threats) is usually one of the
listed crimes.

Now, pay attention here, Sparky. If the reports are correct, there was
no intimidation. What do you think -- that the two lesbians intimidated
themselves? No intimidation, no hate crime.

Note that the statute is neutral wrt sexual orientation. Let's take a
hypothetical that's no stretch. Let's say a closeted gay Republican or
closeted gay evangelical preacher -- I told you it was no stretch -- put
up the anti-gay signs. That would prosecutable even though the hate
directed at gay people was so directed by a gay person.

The feds recognize so-called hate crimes using the protected class of
sexual orientation. It turns out that Colorado does too, so chances are
it was always a local matter and would have stayed a local matter.
>
>
> -- Obama's black racist USAG appointee. Eric Holder, racist black United
> States Attorney General drops voter intimidation charges against the
> Black Panthers,

First of all, the charges were considered against the *New* Black
Panther Party, which has been disowned by the old (and at this point I
do mean old) Black Panther Party. There are about 3 people in the NBPP.
The charges were dropped by the Bush administration because the white
people complaining about being yelled at weren't voters. They were
Republican poll watchers who didn't live in or vote in the precinct.
Federal voter intimidation laws apply only when actual voters are
intimidated at the polls.

The Obama DoJ got a restraining order against the NBPP.

> "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"
> Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
> hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."

It's in quotes, but there's no source. Not likely from Holder, who's
actually a lawyer and knows that hate crime laws are race neutral.

> Nancy
> > Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
> former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
> York's million dollar tax evasion.

How would Nancy Pelosi know anything about Charlie Rangel's tax problems
before the fact? And she's not obligated to turn in Rangel after the
fact even if she found out. Could you be any more ignorant?

> Barack Obama and Eric Holder,
> committed treason by knowingly and deliberately arming enemies of the
> United States of America through Operation Fast and Furious.

Mexican drug cartels are not "enemies" of the US in the sense the
Constitution means. They're just criminals. The DEA under Bush did the
same thing, and I didn't hear you squealing about trying the WPE for
treason.

> Complicit
> in the murder of Federal employees during the execution of their duties.

You'll have to show intent for the deaths, Sparky.

<snip/>

Greegor

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May 22, 2012, 3:14:51 AM5/22/12
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This was their way to try to weasel
out of cleaning up their dog poop??

This is a new wrinkle on an old behavior.
Once in awhile a black person spray paints
a hackencruz or n-word on the side of
their OWN car and runs this same scam.
I heard of one that got found out at the
University of Minnesota and years later
another got found out at the University
of Iowa. There have been MANY others.

That it's a different "protected group"
and on a garage door instead of the car
itself are minor variations.

I agree that false accusers should get
more severe punishments.

V. Ermin

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May 22, 2012, 2:52:44 PM5/22/12
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On 22 May 2012, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> posted some news:4bea15ce-
3343-4ef1-a85...@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
Tawana Brawley, Al Sharpton, Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason come to
mind.

Brawley is a Muslim now.

deadrat

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May 22, 2012, 3:20:33 PM5/22/12
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On 5/22/12 1:52 PM, V. Ermin wrote:
> On 22 May 2012, Greegor<gree...@gmail.com> posted some news:4bea15ce-
> 3343-4ef1-a85...@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> This was their way to try to weasel
>> out of cleaning up their dog poop??
>>
>> This is a new wrinkle on an old behavior.
>> Once in awhile a black person spray paints
>> a hackencruz or n-word on the side of
>> their OWN car and runs this same scam.
>> I heard of one that got found out at the
>> University of Minnesota and years later
>> another got found out at the University
>> of Iowa. There have been MANY others.
>>
>> That it's a different "protected group"
>> and on a garage door instead of the car
>> itself are minor variations.
>>
>> I agree that false accusers should get
>> more severe punishments.
>>
>
> Tawana Brawley,

was a 15-year old girl trying to invent an excuse that would get her out
of beating by parents said to be abusive.

> Al Sharpton, Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason come to mind.

Since these people weren't the filers of police reports, they can't be
"false accusers" under the law. That's the price we pay for the 1st
Amendment. All were sued for defamatory statements about the ADA in the
case, and all were found liable. Maddox had his law license suspended.
Sharpton paid the judgment against him.
>
> Brawley is a Muslim now.

Well, damn! Why hasn't she been arrested for that?


BTR1701

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May 22, 2012, 6:06:48 PM5/22/12
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In article <cYudnTCAt7aceibS...@giganews.com>,
deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:

> Sharpton paid the judgment against him.

No, he didn't.

deadrat

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May 22, 2012, 6:08:46 PM5/22/12
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He paid the judgment with money his friends gave him. Sorry if that's
not good enough for you.

BTR1701

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May 22, 2012, 6:38:31 PM5/22/12
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In article <OP2dna_NSbXzkyHS...@giganews.com>,
deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:

> On 5/22/12 5:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article<cYudnTCAt7aceibS...@giganews.com>,
> > deadrat<a...@b.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sharpton paid the judgment against him.
> >
> > No, he didn't.
>
> He paid the judgment with money his friends gave him.

So his friends paid the judgement, he didn't.

And they only did it after years of Sharpton trying every trick in the
book to avoid paying-- hiding his money behind companies and
partnerships, which paid his bills so he could technically claim to be
penniless.

The man is a vile, opportunistic sociopath who recently said in an
interview that if he had to do the Brawley thing all over again, he'd do
the same thing. Apparently Al doesn't believe that making vile
accusations and attempting to ruin an innocent man's career over a hoax
is a bad thing.

deadrat

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May 22, 2012, 7:58:49 PM5/22/12
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On 5/22/12 5:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article<OP2dna_NSbXzkyHS...@giganews.com>,
> deadrat<a...@b.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/12 5:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article<cYudnTCAt7aceibS...@giganews.com>,
>>> deadrat<a...@b.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sharpton paid the judgment against him.
>>>
>>> No, he didn't.
>>
>> He paid the judgment with money his friends gave him.
>
> So his friends paid the judgement, he didn't.

It was a gift to him.

> And they only did it after years of Sharpton trying every trick in the
> book to avoid paying-- hiding his money behind companies and
> partnerships, which paid his bills so he could technically claim to be
> penniless.

Could you provide evidence for these claims?

> The man is a vile, opportunistic sociopath who recently said in an
> interview that if he had to do the Brawley thing all over again, he'd do
> the same thing. Apparently Al doesn't believe that making vile
> accusations and attempting to ruin an innocent man's career over a hoax
> is a bad thing.

I'm not defending Al's actions in the Brawley case. He has much to
answer for. But he's not responsible for making false complaints. The
evidence says that was Tawana. He was responsible for defamatory
statements, and however it happened, the civil judgment against him has
been paid.

Greegor

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May 22, 2012, 8:04:29 PM5/22/12
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On this Colorado case, I'd like to know how the
FORGERY charge came up in connection with this incident.

If it was an attempt to FRAME somebody
then the charges so far are insufficient.

deadrat

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May 22, 2012, 10:38:23 PM5/22/12
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God! What an ignoramus you are! Do you suppose that because you
capitalize all the letters in a word, that gives your thoughts some weight?

Colorado's forgery statute could cover filing false documents with a
prosecutor's office. The annotations give an example of a defendant in
a criminal case who forges his victim's name on a letter recanting
initial statements to the police.

News reports don't say what the forgery charge entails, but nobody so
far claims there was an attempt to frame somebody, let alone FRAME somebody.

For what it's worth, the two women blame a third and disgruntled
roommate of theirs.

trotsky

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May 23, 2012, 8:18:18 AM5/23/12
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On 5/22/12 5:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
The horror!

trotsky

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May 23, 2012, 8:19:12 AM5/23/12
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On 5/22/12 5:38 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article<OP2dna_NSbXzkyHS...@giganews.com>,
> deadrat<a...@b.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/12 5:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article<cYudnTCAt7aceibS...@giganews.com>,
>>> deadrat<a...@b.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sharpton paid the judgment against him.
>>>
>>> No, he didn't.
>>
>> He paid the judgment with money his friends gave him.
>
> So his friends paid the judgement, he didn't.


Excellent straw man argument, Thanny!

Oh, and teabagger alert.

Bill Steele

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May 24, 2012, 2:38:26 PM5/24/12
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I'd like to know how this differes from the thousands of other crimes
committed every day.

Bill Steele

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May 24, 2012, 2:41:52 PM5/24/12
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On 5/22/12 10:38 PM, deadrat wrote:
Hate crime law is a flawed approach to a real problem. Juries can't read
people's minds.

Greegor

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May 24, 2012, 11:54:07 PM5/24/12
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Why are they offering two different explanations?
1. disgruntled roomate explanation
2. longstanding problem with HOA

http://unfinishedlivesblog.com/2011/11/01/lives-of-colorado-lesbian-couple-threatened-in-hate-crime/

Lives of Colorado Lesbian Couple Threatened in Hate Crime

Lesbian couple threatened with death
Parker, Colorado – A lesbian couple were tagged by a death threat on
two consecutive days last week in Parker, a town southeast of Denver.
On Friday, Aimee Whitchurch and Christel Conklin found a target symbol
spray painted on their condo door and the phrase, “KILL THE GAYS,”
tagged on their garage door in bright red paint for all the neighbors
to see. The next morning, they opened their front door to find a noose
laid on their door mat. Whitchurch said that when they discovered the
noose, they knew their lives really were at risk.

Not the types to let such serious matters go, the couple responded by
complaining to the Home Owners Association of their condo complex,
whose president haphazardly splashed white paint over the red spray
paint Saturday. His less-than-professional job barely covered the
graffiti, and exacerbated the problem. Whitchurch and Conklin
responded by taping a sign to the garage door that read, “Solve the
problem; don’t paint over it.” The couple told Channel 9 News that
they were sure their sexual orientation was the reason for the hateful
graffiti attack and the noose. Whitchurch said the neighbors figured
out they were not “roommates,” and took homophobic action against
them. As Conklin said in the same interview, “Being lesbians is okay,
until you start living together,” in Douglas County. “This is where we
live. We should feel safe. I am afraid to walk outside my place now,”
Whitchurch said. The couple have lived in the condo for nearly six
months.

A feud had been brewing between the neighbors and the lesbian couple,
according to the women. The Advocate reported that the HOA had
complained that they were not picking up the feces after walking their
dogs. Conklin answered the charges in detail to Channel 9: “It
ridiculous. We have a Mastiff and a Great-Dane, two of the largest
breed dogs, if we didn’t pick up after them this entire place would be
covered. It’s completely invalid. That’s just common sense,” she said.
The couple also own an English Bulldog puppy. Since the initial
attack, the lesbians’ car has been keyed, and dog feces has been
scattered on their property. Channel 9 reporters have repeatedly
tried to contact the HOA officers for a statement, but no one has
returned the calls.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Office investigators have been on the case,
but have surfaced no persons of interest. Detective Ron Hanovan said
to Channel 9: “Right now, we don’t have any leads and no one is in
custody.” Two offenses are involved in this attack, Hanovan went on to
say, criminal mischief over $1,000, and anti-LGBT crime. Conklin and
Whitchurch say they are taking this case to the FBI.

The HOA finally sent a reputable painter to cover the slipshod work
the HOA president did on the couple’s garage door. In the meanwhile,
Whitchurch and Conklin are not going anywhere. They still walk their
adult dogs, and their little bulldog, Ellie May. On electric green
and pink poster board, they have put up new signs the neighbors cannot
miss. One of them declares, “We are not the gay couple! We are Aimee
and Christal!”

Ubiquitous

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May 25, 2012, 6:13:54 AM5/25/12
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gree...@gmail.com wrote:

>Lives of Colorado Lesbian Couple Threatened in Hate Crime

And you posted this off-topic article here because?

--
"If Barack Obama isn't careful, he will become the Jimmy Carter of the
21st century."

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May 25, 2012, 3:20:58 PM5/25/12
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On 24 May 2012, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> posted some
news:20d64887-98d8-4843...@s5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:

> Why are they offering two different explanations?
> 1. disgruntled roomate explanation
> 2. longstanding problem with HOA
>
> http://unfinishedlivesblog.com/2011/11/01/lives-of-colorado-lesbian-cou
> ple-threatened-in-hate-crime/
>
> Lives of Colorado Lesbian Couple Threatened in Hate Crime
>
> Lesbian couple threatened with death
> Parker, Colorado – A lesbian couple were tagged by a death threat on
> two consecutive days last week in Parker, a town southeast of Denver.
> On Friday, Aimee Whitchurch and Christel Conklin found a target symbol
> spray painted on their condo door and the phrase, “KILL THE GAYS,”
> tagged on their garage door in bright red paint for all the neighbors
> to see. The next morning, they opened their front door to find a noose
> laid on their door mat. Whitchurch said that when they discovered the
> noose, they knew their lives really were at risk.

The clam bumpers staged it all.

Put them in jail for hate crimes against heterosexuals. The law works
both ways.

Greegor

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May 25, 2012, 4:17:08 PM5/25/12
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Why are they offering two different explanations?
1. disgruntled roomate explanation
2. longstanding problem with HOA

[...]

US > The clam bumpers staged it all.

The two alternate explanations do kind of imply that.

US > Put them in jail for hate crimes against
US > heterosexuals.  The law works both ways.

I doubt that it does, but it probably should.
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