Introducing Seniors in ECE

[Neha]

Hi all,

I have invited a few seniors in ECE to join this group.
-Hemant is already there doing a great job and really helping us all.
Thanks a lot Hemant.
-Kshitiz a Phd student who as already told can answer Signals/Control
related course selection queries
-Shreyas a Phd student who can guide in Image, video, multimedia,
biometrics and Pattern recognition fields.
-Aveek a Phd student who can solve queries in broad area of Systems.

Thankx a lot guys.

Neha

[Arjun P Athreya]

Hey Neha,

Great work...Is there any senior who's specializing in Telecommunication/Wireless Networks domain??

That would be great if they come on board...

Arjun

[Hemant Agrawal]

that would be only me in my batch.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

[Arjun P Athreya]

Hi Hemanth,

Thanks, I have in previous thread mentioned about a couple of choices Ive made.

These are
1. 18202,Mathematical Foundations of Electrical Engineering (i feel a strong math foundation is necessary to what was taught here in my BE course..)
2. 18750 , Fundamentals of Telecommunications Networks

Now, I am contemplating on 18450 Digital Wireless Communication, 18650... and I also would want to take up Network Security related subjects as well like 18630, 18631.

Since am coming from Telecommunication Engineering stream, I do have good foundation in communication and NS subjects.

So, am quite stuck with the choice for the other 2 subjects.... How are my choices? Should I do a re-think on taking any other related subjects?

Regards,

Arjun

[Hemant Agrawal]

Arjun,

your choices are weird and dont make sense to me. why do you wanna take math? didnt u do 5 maths and 1 prp? isnt tht enough?
18750 is new so i cant comment. but 18756 is a great course if 750 turns out to be a disappointment.

18650 is a no brainer course. you can take it as a filler. nothing in this course is somehting you will learn. but earns you ece graduate units for degree.

18630 is good. no doubt abt it.

MS is not about foundation. thts wht BE does. think advanced arjun. dont stoop to the undergraduate level unless the course really is required.

you should register for 95-799 linux (6 unit mini) since unix is wht is goin to be ur life at cmu.

you should register for 18756,630,750,95799,18650 and u should thnk about programming skills for which you shold take 18243 crosslisted as 15213.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

[Arvind Gopalakrishnan]

HI Hemanth

I am interested in the areas if embedded systems and signal processing...

I was considering taking the courses

 

18798

Image, Video, and Multimedia (I have been working on video codecs at NXP for the last 2 years and this may be a good course to assimilate all the stuff i know 18-648 – Real-Time Embedded Systems  18-843 – Mobile and Pervasive Computing 18799E Special Topics in Signal Processing: Biometric Recognition I was thinking that all these courses would be too heavy to take in the frist semester... so what is your advice? are there some easy courses which will add value? Like 18650 and such? How are the profs for the above courses?  Sorry about the formatting... doing this in a hurry from work!! Thanks a lot in advance Regards Arvind

[Ramkumar Krishnan]

Hi Arvind, 

Just a small detail to bring to ur notice: 18798 is listed as section PP which means its only for portugal campus... not sure we can take it... 

Cheers

Ram

[Arjun P Athreya]

Hi Hemanth,

I did see that math course was a prerequisite in quite a few courses, so, i thought it was needed.

Okay, i shall look into a few programming courses as you mentioned. Il revert back soon on this..

Thanks on the guidance...

Regards,
Arjun

[Hemant Agrawal]

@Arvind: I am sorry to tell you this but I am not the right guy for DSP and systems inter-discipline. One thing I can see in your course selection is that the 18800 level courses are damn tough and more advanced in nature. So you might consider taking them in the last sem of your MS. For beginning, take some 600/700 level courses. 18650 isn't the course for you, since you will be wasting your tution on that 12 units.

@Arjun: If a course mentions any course below 18400 level or below, it is to be assumed that you qualify the pre-req, since you are graduate students. Also the courses may mention about graduate standing,, for example, the pre-req will be like : 18450 or graduate standing. in this case, you need not worry about 18450,the graduate standing is enough for you to qualify.

Cheers,

Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

[Renegade]

Hi Hemant,
I am planning to take up 4 subjects this semester. 3 of them are
18-243, 18-756 and 15-600.
For the fourth subject I am confused between 18-730-Intro to Security
and 15-857-Performance Modeling.
I wanna do 15-857 instead of some filler as I am interested in
systems. Btw, I am assuming tht 18-730 is a light subject. Please
correct me if I am wrong.
So is 15-857 a heavy or a light subject?
Any idea of any teacher/student who I can ask abt this?

Thanks in anticipation.

Regards,
Karan

On Jun 3, 6:56 pm, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Arvind: I am sorry to tell you this but I am not the right guy for DSP and
> systems inter-discipline. One thing I can see in your course selection is
> that the 18800 level courses are damn tough and more advanced in nature. So
> you might consider taking them in the last sem of your MS. For beginning,
> take some 600/700 level courses. 18650 isn't the course for you, since you
> will be wasting your tution on that 12 units.
>
> @Arjun: If a course mentions any course below 18400 level or below, it is to
> be assumed that you qualify the pre-req, since you are graduate students.
> Also the courses may mention about graduate standing,, for example, the
> pre-req will be like : 18450 or graduate standing. in this case, you need
> not worry about 18450,the graduate standing is enough for you to qualify.
>
> Cheers,
> Hemant Agrawal.
> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> Carnegie Mellon University.
>

> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Arjun P Athreya <arjunp.athr...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi Hemanth,
>
> > I did see that math course was a prerequisite in quite a few courses, so, i
> > thought it was needed.
>
> > Okay, i shall look into a few programming courses as you mentioned. Il
> > revert back soon on this..
>
> > Thanks on the guidance...
>
> > Regards,
> > Arjun
>

> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Arjun,
>
> >> your choices are weird and dont make sense to me. why do you wanna take
> >> math? didnt u do 5 maths and 1 prp? isnt tht enough?
> >> 18750 is new so i cant comment. but 18756 is a great course if 750 turns
> >> out to be a disappointment.
>
> >> 18650 is a no brainer course. you can take it as a filler. nothing in this
> >> course is somehting you will learn. but earns you ece graduate units for
> >> degree.
>
> >> 18630 is good. no doubt abt it.
>
> >> MS is not about foundation. thts wht BE does. think advanced arjun. dont
> >> stoop to the undergraduate level unless the course really is required.
>
> >> you should register for 95-799 linux (6 unit mini) since unix is wht is
> >> goin to be ur life at cmu.
>
> >> you should register for 18756,630,750,95799,18650 and u should thnk about
> >> programming skills for which you shold take 18243 crosslisted as 15213.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hemant Agrawal.
> >> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> >> Carnegie Mellon University.
>

> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Arjun P Athreya <arjunp.athr...@gmail.com

> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> Hi Hemanth,
>
> >>> Thanks, I have in previous thread mentioned about a couple of choices Ive
> >>> made.
>
> >>> These are
> >>> 1. 18202,Mathematical Foundations of Electrical Engineering (i feel a
> >>> strong math foundation is necessary to what was taught here in my BE
> >>> course..)
> >>> 2. 18750 , Fundamentals of Telecommunications Networks
>
> >>> Now, I am contemplating on 18450 Digital Wireless Communication, 18650...
> >>> and I also would want to take up Network Security related subjects as well
> >>> like 18630, 18631.
>
> >>> Since am coming from Telecommunication Engineering stream, I do have good
> >>> foundation in communication and NS subjects.
>
> >>> So, am quite stuck with the choice for the other 2 subjects.... How are
> >>> my choices? Should I do a re-think on taking any other related subjects?
>
> >>> Regards,
>
> >>> Arjun
>

> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> that would be only me in my batch.
>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hemant Agrawal.
> >>>> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> >>>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Arjun P Athreya <
> >>>> arjunp.athr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hey Neha,
>
> >>>>> Great work...Is there any senior who's specializing in
> >>>>> Telecommunication/Wireless Networks domain??
>
> >>>>> That would be great if they come on board...
>
> >>>>> Arjun
>

[Mugdha]

Hi Hemant,
u had told me earlier that comp arch(18740) and embedded real-time
systems(18648) are good as courses but have no connection..So is it
advisable to take them up together?
I am actually more interested in hardware part of computer
engineering.
Also do these 2 courses alongwith Introduction to computer systems
(18243) make an okay combination or would the course load be too heavy
for the 1st sem?

> > >>>>>> Neha- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Hemant Agrawal]

@karan: i have not much idea about 15-857, but looking at the course description, i can assure you that a 800 level CS course is gonna take every drop of blood from your body. You might wanna take it in the last sem of your MS. 18730 is not as simple and manageable as you may think, 18630 is. anyhow, with 18243 and 18756, you wouldnt have any room for 4th course anyway, so you will have to be content with 3 if you take 15600,18243 and 18756.

@mugdha: yeah why not. you should register and take the courses and see if they taste you well. 18648 is being offered for the first time, so i do not know how it would be on difficulty level, but if i know prof. rajkumar well, he will ask you to take 18243 anyway before any of his course. so going with 18740 and 18243 should be heavy enough for the first sem with a third filler course. also since you are interested in hardware part, lemme ask you if you have any inclination toward vlsi design/cad tools/verilog stuff? then the course selection has to be different.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

[Mugdha]

Not exactly.. I would like to pursue something in comp arch or
embedded only..not VLSI ..
Which courses would be filler courses?I mean alongwith Comp Arch n
18243, which ones would be lighter ?

> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

[Kshitiz]

Hi Arvind,

As Ram pointed, 18798 will be offered in Portugal campus. ECE Course
information does say that Pittsburgh campus students should not
register for section PP so mostly probably you cant register for it.
Then, towards your initial motivation in doing that course, you might
be interested in 18859D, Special Topics in Communication: Error
Control Coding. That course will not be an image specific course, it
will have more abstraction and cover basics of coding, its prof is too
good.

18799E is not offered this Fall, its an extremely interesting and
relatively easy-going course so you may be looking for it to be
offered next

Thanks,
--
Kshitiz Kumar
PhD Candidate
(Robust Speech Group)

On Jun 3, 3:08 am, Ramkumar Krishnan <ram.cool1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Arvind,
> Just a small detail to bring to ur notice: 18798 is listed as section PP
> which means its only for portugal campus... not sure we can take it...
>
> Cheers
> Ram
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Arvind Gopalakrishnan

> <arvind...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> > HI Hemanth
> > I am interested in the areas if embedded systems and signal processing...
>
> > I was considering taking the courses
>

> > 18798Image, Video, and Multimedia (I have been working on video codecs

> > at NXP for the last 2 years and this may be a good course to assimilate all
> > the stuff i know
>
> > 18-648 – Real-Time Embedded Systems
>
> > 18-843 – Mobile and Pervasive Computing
>
> > 18799E Special Topics in Signal Processing: Biometric Recognition
>
> > I was thinking that all these courses would be too heavy to take in the
> > frist semester... so what is your advice? are there some easy courses which
> > will add value? Like 18650 and such? How are the profs for the above
> > courses?
>
> > Sorry about the formatting... doing this in a hurry from work!!
>
> > Thanks a lot in advance
> > Regards
> > Arvind
>

> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Arjun,
>
> >> your choices are weird and dont make sense to me. why do you wanna take
> >> math? didnt u do 5 maths and 1 prp? isnt tht enough?
> >> 18750 is new so i cant comment. but 18756 is a great course if 750 turns
> >> out to be a disappointment.
>
> >> 18650 is a no brainer course. you can take it as a filler. nothing in this
> >> course is somehting you will learn. but earns you ece graduate units for
> >> degree.
>
> >> 18630 is good. no doubt abt it.
>
> >> MS is not about foundation. thts wht BE does. think advanced arjun. dont
> >> stoop to the undergraduate level unless the course really is required.
>
> >> you should register for 95-799 linux (6 unit mini) since unix is wht is
> >> goin to be ur life at cmu.
>
> >> you should register for 18756,630,750,95799,18650 and u should thnk about
> >> programming skills for which you shold take 18243 crosslisted as 15213.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hemant Agrawal.
> >> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> >> Carnegie Mellon University.
>

> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Arjun P Athreya <arjunp.athr...@gmail.com

> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> Hi Hemanth,
>
> >>> Thanks, I have in previous thread mentioned about a couple of choices Ive
> >>> made.
>
> >>> These are
> >>> 1. 18202,Mathematical Foundations of Electrical Engineering (i feel a
> >>> strong math foundation is necessary to what was taught here in my BE
> >>> course..)
> >>> 2. 18750 , Fundamentals of Telecommunications Networks
>
> >>> Now, I am contemplating on 18450 Digital Wireless Communication, 18650...
> >>> and I also would want to take up Network Security related subjects as well
> >>> like 18630, 18631.
>
> >>> Since am coming from Telecommunication Engineering stream, I do have good
> >>> foundation in communication and NS subjects.
>
> >>> So, am quite stuck with the choice for the other 2 subjects.... How are
> >>> my choices? Should I do a re-think on taking any other related subjects?
>
> >>> Regards,
>
> >>> Arjun
>

> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> that would be only me in my batch.
>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hemant Agrawal.
> >>>> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> >>>> Carnegie Mellon University.
>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Arjun P Athreya <
> >>>> arjunp.athr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hey Neha,
>
> >>>>> Great work...Is there any senior who's specializing in
> >>>>> Telecommunication/Wireless Networks domain??
>
> >>>>> That would be great if they come on board...
>
> >>>>> Arjun
>

[Arvind Gopalakrishnan]

Thanks for the info Hemanth and Ksitiz.

What is your opinion on 18549? its offered in spring...hsould i prefer that over 18648? Its sounds more interesting? How come there are no image and video processing courses in pitts?? Am i missing anything? what abt 18551 and 18492? are they good courses for masters students or only under grads take the courses?

Cheers 

aRVIND

[prashanth]

Hi Hemanth,planning to specialize in communications as well...could
you pen down what you think a typical 1st sem course schedule would
look like,just as an opinion?like what subjects and all.

[Renegade]

Hi seniors,

My friend has an admit in MISM course in Heinz..... and he has been
certain specifications that his laptop should meet..... With respect
to RAm, processor etc. So he has to buy a new one.

Are there any particular required specifications for laptops in ECE or
CS department???? Do I need to buy a new laptop or I can use my old
one???

Regards,
Karan

[Hemant Agrawal]

Hi Karan,

ECE is a dept which is more open than any other. Please tell me the config of your RAM and CPU to make a comment.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

2009/6/5 Renegade <kar...@gmail.com>

[Hemant Agrawal]

Hi Prashanth,

I am not sure about this, since the courses have changed this time, so it would be better if you pen down a few that you like and ask my opinion if the choice is balanced and correct for your taste.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

2009/6/5 prashanth <prashan...@gmail.com>

[Renegade]

It's a Toshiba Laptop
Processor: Intel Centrino Duo 1.6 GHz
RAM: 1 GB (Can be increased)
Hard Disk: 80 GB
Operating Systems: Windows XP and Linux (Fedora)
Graphics Card: none

On Jun 5, 11:53 pm, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Karan,
>
> ECE is a dept which is more open than any other. Please tell me the config
> of your RAM and CPU to make a comment.
>
> Regards,
> Hemant Agrawal.
> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> Carnegie Mellon University.
>

> 2009/6/5 Renegade <kara...@gmail.com>

[prashanth]

Ok,im kind off confused though.
are we expected to understand all the math in an ieee paper?...because
i cant,not in under 2 hours anyway.if we are ill need a 1st sem math
course.

A basic communication course,
either fundamentals of telecomm/information theory and coding/wireless
comm.If i dont need a math course ill take 2 from here.

18650-which is apparently policies and an easy course.do people
usually take one easier course in 1st sem (because we obviously dont
want to kill ourselves right?)

On Jun 5, 11:55 pm, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Prashanth,
>
> I am not sure about this, since the courses have changed this time, so it
> would be better if you pen down a few that you like and ask my opinion if
> the choice is balanced and correct for your taste.
>
> Regards,
> Hemant Agrawal.
> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> Carnegie Mellon University.
>

> 2009/6/5 prashanth <prashanthse...@gmail.com>

[Hemant Agrawal]

Hi Karan,

Your laptop specs look good. I think you should up the RAM by atleast 1 more GB. And, if possible, get a universal charger from India, coz chargers tend to get screwed up or lost, and are minimum 70-80$ here.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

2009/6/5 Renegade <kar...@gmail.com>

[Hemant Agrawal]

Hi Prashanth,

Even I wasn't comfortable with the paper-reading stuff and the deep explanation inside the algorithm implementation. Now, I am not going to explain how to read and what to read in a paper here. But the point is, you do not have to take course for that!!! And 18650 is a stupidly easy course (at least at my time it was, against my expectations), so it depends on the other courses you take that will affect the decision to take such a useless course toward your MS degree. You guys are entering Masters' coursework guys, please look at graduate courses, look at undergraduate courses only if their syllabus has something that you never in your life have done before, not for practice.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

2009/6/5 prashanth <prashan...@gmail.com>

[Renegade]

Thanx for the advice Hemant.

I was myself gonna ask u abt 18-650. I am thinking of taking up 18-650
instead of 18-730.( As it seems to be a hell of a lot easier). I don't
care what it teaches. I just care about how light it is.

Despite ur warning, I am still sticking to my plan of taking up 4
subjects in the 1st semester. I am doing this because I want to take
15410 (Operating System Design and Implementation) as one of the three
subjects in the Spring sem.

As 18-650 clashes with 15-600, I shall take up 15-637 (Web Application
Development)

So how's this combo?

18-243 Intro to Comp. Systems
18-756 Packet Switching and Comp. Networks --OR-- 15-744 Computer
Networks
15-637 Web Application Development
18-650 Policies of Wireless Sys and the Internet

How manageable or maddening will this be? Also, if I start going
insane, when is the last date when I can drop a course? Will it be
wiser to do the 4th subject in Spring with 15410?

Regards,
Karan

On Jun 7, 2:07 am, Hemant Agrawal <hemanta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Prashanth,
>

> Even I wasn't comfortable with the paper-reading stuff and the deep
> explanation inside the algorithm implementation. Now, I am not going to
> explain how to read and what to read in a paper here. But the point is, you
> do not have to take course for that!!! And 18650 is a stupidly easy course
> (at least at my time it was, against my expectations), so it depends on the
> other courses you take that will affect the decision to take such a useless
> course toward your MS degree. You guys are entering Masters' coursework
> guys, please look at graduate courses, look at undergraduate courses only if
> their syllabus has something that you never in your life have done before,
> not for practice.
>
> Regards,
> Hemant Agrawal.
> (MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
> Carnegie Mellon University.
>

> 2009/6/5 prashanth <prashanthse...@gmail.com>

[prashanth]

Thanks a lot Hemanth.
heres my problem, for which I have a bunch of questions.you must be
very busy...so take all the time you want to answer,no real hurry.

Most importantly,which is the department better for: networks,crypto/
comp-sec,optical
is 'applies stochastic processes'(18751) worth taking in the first
sem?

because my problem is this:
ideally i would like to do fundamentals of telecomm,applied
stoc,packet switching.
but the third class clashes with the first two.

so i can take the first 2+an optical course (18712)
or third+optical +crypto (18730)

an additional problem is:
in the next sem,2 networking courses will probably be offered.
1.Wireless networks (18759)- no packet switching prerequisite
2.Network management and control (18757)- requires packet switching

have you taken either?if they're roughly the same,content wise,i might
as well ditch packet switching in the first sem.

[Mugdha]

Hi Hemant,
Actually i'd like to go with computer architecture n embedded real
time systems for sure. But as u said , Prof Rajkumar will insist on
taking up 18243(Intro to computer systems) as well..They have these
sections A,B,C,D,E,F etc.What are they exactly?Do i need to register
for all of them or only for the main lecture? Because registering for
all sections is clashing with the embedded sys course..In that case i
dont know which courses to drop.If i go with only the main course of
18243 then its not a problem..

Please help..I'm at a loss what to do..

Thanks.

[Hemant Agrawal]

@mugdha: you just have to register for one section, which suits your scheduling.

@prashanth: one point, 18750 is a precursor to 18756 and both are not supposed to be taken together. so, that should solve some entaglements in your schemes. one more point for 18757, it is a phd quality course in which only 3 took the class this spring. and please dont wory about spring courses from now :-)

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

2009/6/7 Mugdha <mugdha...@gmail.com>

[prashanth]

Thanks a lot Hemant,that helped a lot

[Parth]

Hey guys, this is Parth. I am an ECE Master's student here at CMU.
Great to see Hemant putting in time to help out so many of you. I
might not visit here often, but you can mail me your questions at
pa...@cmu.edu. I'd be happy to answer them.

All the best and welcome to ECE. Hope to catch everyone at the ECE
Master's suites in Porter Hall :)

Parth

[Neha Agrawal]

@ Parth : Thanks a lot Parth for joining this group.

Neha

[Ramkumar Krishnan]

Hello Seniors,

I am just very confused with regard to the Medical form.. I know many of u submitted it when u went there last year.. but this time there are all sorts of information from everywhere... dunno what to believe, and what not to... I thght it is best to seek advice of ECE ppl , since what applies to us may not necessarily apply to others... Pls advice and guide me... 

Thanks

Ram

[Hemant Agrawal]

Hi Ram,

I understand the confusion. I recommend (strongly) that you get all the vaccines written in the form (MMR Hepatitis influenza for being safe at the airports) and any other that I may have missed and are mentioned in the form. Other lame option that some of us ended up with and I am pretty sire some of you will also end up with is, take no vaccine and lie onthe form and submit it anyway. This saves money and holes in you but believe me, you do not want to get sick in any smallest possible way here away from home.

Regarding submitting the form, don't worry, you will have plenty of time once you land here. In fact your health insurance doesn't start unless your fees is paid, so if some of you will pay after coming here, thats risky too.

Take care and be safe than sorry.

Regards,
Hemant Agrawal.
(MS Electrical & Computer Engineering)
Carnegie Mellon University.

[Ramkumar Krishnan]

Thanks Hemant... 

Dont worry abt the vaccines, I have and am taking all possible ones I can think of... I just wanted to know WHEN to submit it... Thanks for the info.. Once I am done with the one or so left, I am planning to Fax it to the health department as a start and bring along the original with me. 

Thanks 

Ram