Survey About Buildings 16 and 17

[Pat Moss]

Dear Member,

As presented at the Annual Meeting, an information packet and a survey have been posted on the Members Corner of the website (https://www.clubcascadasdebaja.com) related to the possibility of adding two 4^th level Margarita C Villas atop buildings 16 and 17 during the renovations in 2023.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated and kindly request that the packet is reviewed prior to responding to the survey.

Responses will be accepted through Sunday July 17, 2022.

To access the information packet, CLICK HERE (https://vriresorts.com/eguest/ccdb/CCDB_Information_packet_for_potential_new_villas.pdf)

To access the survey, CLICK HERE (https://bit.ly/cascadas-survey)

We look forward to your participation and if you have any questions or problems signing into the Members Corner of the website, please email in...@clubcascadas.com

 

On behalf of your Board of Directors,

Pat

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Teresa Ziakas]

Any idea when meeting minutes will be distributed? I was unable to attend, but I would expect these would be distributed in less than 3 weeks after the meeting?

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[Kolleen Henderson]

Why are they try to make this so much less friendly. We would all appreciate some quiet. We would also like to keep the views we purchased. 

Kolleen Henderson

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[annie...@comcast.net]

You would think that after the building 6 fiasco, last year, they wouldn’t try another stunt like this.  Finish the remodel that has been ongoing for the last 10 years and give us peace and quiet for a while!  So simple.

 

Ann Dean

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[Carolyn&lorne]

Well said!! 

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[Timothy Yates]

Amen! We’ll said!!

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[Kim Curtsinger]

This is an entirely different animal. Building 6 is in the middle of the complex. Which would have restricted views from several villas. 

The buildings 

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[Kim Curtsinger]

Oops ! I wasn’t finished yet. Lol mother buildings 16 & 17 are on the Rose side. They will bring revenue to the club. Also allowing the convenience of an elevator & and and a grand villa!

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[annie...@comcast.net]

I think the point to remember is I’m sure we all have construction fatigue and have been affected, in one way or another, with all the building “projects” that seem to never end.  Is revenue a problem for the club?

 

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[Timothy Yates]

That may be so but we have been waiting for some years to have our unit renovated. Further construction can wait until the renos are done.

[Kolleen Henderson]

Totally agree. 

[Norskepike]

Not in favor of further building at this time at least, let us get the scheduled renovation done, and let us enjoy  for now , Toril Strand

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[Pat Moss]

Please use the survey if you want your voice heard.

Thanks!

Pat

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[FRANK BARONE]

My first concern would be the ability of the foundation to carry that much extra weight. The Luna did not collapse that building and the Bonita Rose is still there (I saw their foundations).

Secondly I wonder if the Sales office serves the needs of the Club or vice versa. Great new inventory to sell and with elevators! Interesting to see how they decide which present owners get to upgrade.

I do not think the extra guests matter. There are many outsiders in the restaurant now.

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[Jane Taylor]

Before people pop off and complain about views and noise, the Giddings had no obligation to update the property, they had already sold off enough legacy units to get out , but it was important to them to keep improving and updating an aging property , 16 and 17 construction will occur at the same time as the remodel and the only view it will block is the Pueblo Rosae, which we would all like blocked anyway, it’s been an eyesore for years, we have an Escondido in unit 16 and have no problems giving up  any time for improvements  maintenance fee or no fee. I assume that if you were to sell your own home you might have to update it match current market value or sell it at a discount which is exactly what we will be doing if continued improvements are not made . There are so many new luxury hotels and time shares that Cascadas cannot compete with in terms of style , age , and amenities that whatever upscale units can be devised would be a plus for future sales. We have brought no less than 15 couples in the last 12 years all under 60 ,  well , well above normal incomes, and not a single one has bought a unit.

 

We have Concepcion 5 and unless you are disabled and will spend your entire vacation in the unit or on the patio, there is absolutely no view to obstruct, only the front units Arco, Perla, Sol, Cortez have a true view of the ocean and arches, even the ones facing the wash have to overlook and listen to the noise from the access road, public beach and public access.  The “ light “ is seasonal and extra height would have given more shade in the summer months. It’s an inner unit and would have given the same feel as the Sol which generates 3400 per week in maintenance fees,  170,000 per year. Remember these are not homes, they are only a place to sleep when you are at the beach.

 

To those who complain that additional people would be a burden, then lets lobby to have to adults only, exclude people from bringing their children and grandchildren who sleep on the sofas, take more seats at the restaurant , and need more than one palapa at the beach. Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it. We were there for two weeks in May, prime time , and the resort was at best 80% occupied we had no problems with beach, restaurant seating, but I worry that “ where is the revenue “ and this isn’t the summer months where the rate is even lower. Please think before you speak !!!!

 

I assume most are not using a rotary phone, typewriter, beehive hairdo, listen to 44 records of Frank Sinatra, or still have their  1973 Bonnevilles but now I’m not so sure. For those of you that are stuck in the 80’s good luck, because Biden is president, gas is $6 per gallon, your 401 Ks are shrinking daily, your wokeness doesn’t seem to include the most common element which is common sense. ..

 

Mark has done an incredible job of updating these units with a sense of style and décor that are natural, subtle , and totally in keeping with the character his father established. I don’t think you give him enough credit for his efforts to preserve this legacy , his concepts and ideas have been extremely thoughtful and well planned, the Sol and Delfin are just two examples and new construction could be equally as impressive. Let the lessons of the old Hacienda, Solmar, and Twin Dophins serve as a lesson for the future….quaint, picturesque, the best of their era, none survived , they have all been replaced by updated versions in toto.

 

These new construction proposals should be a no brainer, we’ve contacted no less than 10 owners who we know personally in a very short time who tend to be less involved in all these discussions, and I would argue that “ they have a life “, and rarely felt the need to be vocal , but were shocked the previous construction of 6 was halted because of the verbal few, when the rest of us assume the board will make these decisions for the well being of the many not the petty objections of a few. This is the first time we personally have been involved but going forward this will not be the last.

 

Walt and Jane Schell

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[Mark Johnson]

I always enjoy an email that seems to start out thoughtfully and well-reasoned, but then devolves into politics and personal attacks.  The delete button helps me get through my email faster.

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[james lambing]

I agree with you Mark, some just don’t know when to stop!

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[Claude Wise]

As always, I agree with Frank!

Claude 

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 My first concern would be the ability of the foundation to carry that much extra weight. The Luna did not collapse that building and the Bonita Rose is still there (I saw their foundations).

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[Vicki Wantke]

Why is Biden brought into your comments? 

I own Escondido 17 week 14. I am thinking over the pros and cons before doing the survey. I know it won’t block any views except the Rose. The elevator would be good as I age. But I’d like to know how much it would increase my maintenance fees. I own Margarita 10 as well and would love an elevator in that building. I also own 2 weeks at Ocho Cascadas. They put in elevators when the resort was renovated. They are wonderful and do not detract from the architecture. 

I would love to see access to one of the bathrooms from the living room in Escondidos and Margaritas.  It would be so nice for people sleeping on the couches to not have to walk through someone’s bedroom to access the bathroom. I’ve asked for this several times throughout the renovation process. 

Vicki

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[Teresa Ziakas]

I was going to agree with you until I got to your last paragraph  Can you explain what “being woke” means? Or how about the economic and world impact of the price of crude oil?

Stop with the political bullshit. Our beautiful resort has nothing to do with who’s POTUS, the price of oil, or anything else related to the US political cesspool. 

Peace,

Teresa Ziakas

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Why is Biden brought into your comments? 

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[Vicki Wantke]

Teresa, I wasn’t the one that wrote the paragraph you are talking about

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I was going to agree with you until I got to your last paragraph  Can you explain what “being woke” means? Or how about the economic and world impact of the price of crude oil?

[Dave Schultz]

Let me be clear; my wife and I own weeks 16 & 17 for Perlita 16P.  We also own weeks 14 & 15 for Cascades 208.  We set up our retirement for 4 continuous weeks at Cascades about 20 years ago.

 

I get it, those stairs up to the upper units are tough.  But, you purchased them – stairs were there when you bought.   My Perlita – always on the ground floor.  A one bedroom, met our needs and especially after we moved into our 70’s.

 

We will be forwarding our thoughts on the survey questions regarding the addition of a 4^th floor to building 16.  Some questions we may have now have not been answered by the renderings forwarded to us thus far.  Given that, the rendering do not answer the questions we know have and our deadline is July 17?  Answers coming when?  Prior to the 17^th?  Decisions when?

 

I would ask, any owners now (or in the near future) at Cascades walk by our unit.  Observe the privacy, the spacious patio, the hammock.  Unit 16P is a gem.  Close to the pool, large patio, the use of vegetation to give us privacy from the probably the most walked path from the street to the beach.  We spend almost each evening on that patio either having a late dinner or nitecap.  We love it.

 

We have waited for the renovations, knowing we were going to be last.  Seeing the updated Perlitas – we just waited and anticipated the updates.

 

And now.  Taking away the vegation, possible taking away out a comfortable hammock, an elimination of our privacy by putting an entrance directly from the pool, and an underdetermined entrance to the added elevator from the obscure drawing relating to building 16.

 

We are crushed. Our little Perlita P16 will never be the same.

Dave Schultz

 

 

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[Vicki Wantke]

Good points. It may depend on the placement of the elevator. I currently have a small view of the pool from my deck, Escondido 17. The renderings show the elevator in that area so that view may be gone. As far as buying a unit with retirement in mind was great insight on your part. I co-own a Margarita with my Mom. She bought it pre construction years ago. Stairs are still doable but an elevator would be nice.

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[barbaraly...@gmail.com]

To Dave Schultz,

Thank you for your excellent feedback about the impact to Perlita 16P.  Is Cascadas going to compensate us for the loss of our private patios and the fact that the elevator will be right next to the bedroom?  I am incensed that people don't understand this.  How about all those FOR this new proposal have it added to their building and see how they respond then?  And plus, our ground floor Perlita 16P has to participate in the cost of the elevator when we are on the ground floor.  Utter nonsense!

Barbara Samarati

[Teresa Ziakas]

I am only in my 50s but would LOVE an elevator. With every year brings new aches and pains unfortunately. When we bought our first villa I didn’t think that stairs would bother me, but now I hate it. 

I personally wouldn’t look at it as “no one cares about MY feelings” because the overall objective is to keep Cascadas thriving.  It’s not about one Villa. It’s not about one week. 

I am all for adding on to buildings that will help us in our later years. If you don’t own a Villa that is front and center, your view is pretty limited anyway. One of our weeks is in Cortez and the elevator for Luna is right next to our bedroom. I hear the pool from Perla 4 more than I do the elevator. 

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[Timothy Yates]

Again, well-said!

We have 3 weeks in quiet, little Perlita 17S. 

With the proposed construction, elevator noise, increased traffic flow, and, at least partial, blockage of the sunny couple of hours on our hammock around noon will make it significantly less congenial.

I hope other owners of our unit and of other units in buildings 16 and 17 will oppose this proposal

TY

 

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[Gary Lee]

Well, this is how I responded.  I love the Giddings, but in reality this is no longer a family business.

 

I have been going to Cascadas since before all the buildings were complete, and own three weeks. This is another example of proposing changes to the complex that are just not necessary. Like the previous building 6 proposal, it seems to be on a bizarre wish list. Also,  many units still have not been upgraded.  The is no need to continually alter Cascadas to keep Mark's construction company in business for perpetuity.

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[Jane Taylor]

 

You’re totally missing the point and many of the comments show a frank lack of insight…..nothing stays the same our maintenance fees… will inevitably go up but the sales of these units will bring revenue into the reserve accounts to help offset future emergencies as well as generate more maintenance fees, We’re lucky to have Mark to do the construction, and repairs…  remember all the hurricane damage ( there will be more ) he lives here, knows all the locals and can get things done in a timely fashion, we simply can’t compete with the Four Seasons or Westin for pricing and immediacy. To suggest he needs the money is petty and short sighted.

 

The cost of management ,labor, food, security will all be increasing with inflation and time , all I hear are people complaining about how this impacts their own narrow sphere for a brief period of time not what would help all of us over a much longer duration, and we have Escondido 16  and it’s not the big deal people are making it out to be.

 

if you want to talk about the singular most negative construction of the resort its all the palapas , which block the view from the pool.  the view walking to the beach was the most dynamic aspect of Cascadas, a huge marketing and sales tool for any new visitor and is featured in almost every photo, that no longer exists because people were too lazy to use umbrellas and fought over the existing ones like children, go to Rio all the umbrellas are taken down every evening and only put up as needed during the day,  preserving the beauty of the beach and the view. Even when you’re on the beach you cant see the view, and we ‘ve noticed more people taking their own umbrellas or towels to the public beach.

 

To consider changes to only two units isn’t a big push ,nor will it have any change on the imprint of the club. Please consider what will benefit all the members!!!!

 

Walt and Jane Schell

[Teresa Ziakas]

A-FRICKING-MEN!!!

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[Robert King]

Finally a voice of sanity!

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[Timothy Yates]

I'm not sure how many of the responders so far actually have time in buildings 16 or 17.

It's easy to dismiss the concerns of those directly affected if one is not going to be inconvenienced by the proposed construction.

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[Kim Curtsinger]

The construction, is happening regardless of the outcome of the survey. We survived our building 6 being under construction. Trading places offered us a very comparable villa during our usual week. We went on to enjoy our time at Cascadas. Next year we will get to stay in our updated villa. Can’t wait. 

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[Teresa Ziakas]

We’ve already lived through construction in 2 of our 3 units. You will survive. 

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[kelly bull-tomer]

Great points. Could not agree more 

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[Rod A]

It appears as if it is another project to keep Giddings Construction alive.  Was there ever any competing bid on any of this.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:16 PM Pat Moss <pat....@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Member,

As presented at the Annual Meeting, an information packet and a survey have been posted on the Members Corner of the website (https://www.clubcascadasdebaja.com) related to the possibility of adding two 4^th level Margarita C Villas atop buildings 16 and 17 during the renovations in 2023.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated and kindly request that the packet is reviewed prior to responding to the survey.

Responses will be accepted through Sunday July 17, 2022.

To access the information packet, CLICK HERE (https://vriresorts.com/eguest/ccdb/CCDB_Information_packet_for_potential_new_villas.pdf)

To access the survey, CLICK HERE (https://bit.ly/cascadas-survey)

We look forward to your participation and if you have any questions or problems signing into the Members Corner of the website, please email in...@clubcascadas.com

 

On behalf of your Board of Directors,

Pat

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Julie Santen]

Aren't these buildings still on the original remodel schedule? I believe they are set to be torn down and redone already.  Although adding the top floor seems like a bad idea (for many personal reasons many have expressed and adds more people to the resort), I dont see how adding one floor on top of an already planned remodel is really going to get Mark Giddings tons of extra money or take much more time? 

If it ends up happening I feel the owners  that own those buildings on top floor now should have FIRST rights to take the top floor in exchange for their 3rd floor for no more $.  

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[Esta Zettel]

We have Escondido 16 and support the proposed 2nd Margarita as a 4th level addition.  The view will be good with no obstruction of other's views, there is a demand for more 2 bedroom units, and the addition of 12 people max per week with the buildout of 16 and 17 will not overcrowd the Club.  Developing a new income stream will benefit the Club with sales and yearly dues.  We have to look forward and not remain static.  Mark does a great job and continues with the Giddings architectural concept, but he can't please everybody.  I too have remodel/construction fatigue, but we have to stay current.

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[Mark Johnson]

My guess is people who invested in a Margarita likely feel a bit differently about the idea of a unit above them.   I know I certainly would if they ever decide to look at building 12 for this.  I’m surprised those in that boat aren’t guaranteed to move to the new unit that may go above them. 

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[Perry Rebitt]

Maybe that’s the way this should have been proposed. I’m indifferent to another level on those buildings as it really only affects the current Margarita owners. Maybe they should be given the new unit and their current Margaritas are what goes to open market?  They would be getting the upper unit as they have now with elevator access….what’s not to like??

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[Jody Thomas]

As an owner of 2 weeks in Margarita 16 - I’d be ALL FOR this scenario!  As it is however - it’s a HUGE LOSER situation for us!! 

Jody H Thomas

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Maybe that’s the way this should have been proposed. I’m indifferent to another level on those buildings as it really only affects the current Margarita owners. Maybe they should be given the new unit and their current Margaritas are what goes to open market?  They would be getting the upper unit as they have now with elevator access….what’s not to like??

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[Jason H]

We're with you Jody, one of our weeks is in Margarita 17 which we love as is. Main reason we went that route was because we wanted a top floor unit. There is clearly a good amount of support for this idea, so if this goes through and anyone wants a unit with an elevator we will have Week 30 for sale. 

Jason Hayes

[Steve Crawford]

Hi all

I have read all the responses so far. We own Escondido 16 and have been looking forward to the remodel, however,. I think there are so many people that have owned units for years and would really benefit from having the opportunity to purchase units with elevators. There won’ be that big of an impact on the facility as it only adds up to 12 people per week. 

In regards to the Margarita owners, i hope the committee gives them the first opportunity to move to the top floor. (If the proposal goes through).    

I see Any upgrade to Cascadas as an upgrade for us all. And the increased revenue is a benefit to us all as well. 

I know change is hard for many people but this seems like a small change and a positive one. 

The construction will take a bit longer but we’ve endured this long, hopefully a couple more months won’t be the end of the world 

Respectfully

Penny 


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[Daniel Minnis]

To be fair.  There is no Gidding’s Construction. Currently most construction is done by Tenoco Construction a Mexico based company.  Mark Giddings is a board member who get paid a salary in the $130,000 range for providing his expertise, ideas, and acting as a contractor in hopes of preserving the culture and ambiance of Club Cascadas which was designed and built by his father Ed Giddings architect and artist.

Topping off buildings with forth floors:

1.  Provides Mark Job Security 

2.  Increases sales and number KC members

3.  Increases revenues to our already financially healthy Association 

Some are for, most are against.  This is not a voteable project and the Board of Directors are entirely within their power to proceed without input from members.  If the Board proceeds against majority opinion you can exercise your vote during the next election to change the power.

Dan Minnis

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The increased revenue from sales of the new units and their maintenance fees will help continue the Club's terrific record of small to no increases in the annual fees.

 

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Subject: Re: Survey About Buildings 16 and 17

 

Hi all

 

Amen! We’ll said!!

 

 

On Jun 30, 2022, at 7:15 PM, Pat Moss <pat....@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Dear Member,

As presented at the Annual Meeting, an information packet and a survey have been posted on the Members Corner of the website (https://www.clubcascadasdebaja.com) related to the possibility of adding two 4^th level Margarita C Villas atop buildings 16 and 17 during the renovations in 2023.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated and kindly request that the packet is reviewed prior to responding to the survey.

Responses will be accepted through Sunday July 17, 2022.

To access the information packet, CLICK HERE (https://vriresorts.com/eguest/ccdb/CCDB_Information_packet_for_potential_new_villas.pdf)

To access the survey, CLICK HERE (https://bit.ly/cascadas-survey)

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