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Dec 23, 2009, 11:23:04 AM12/23/09
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Hi everyone,
a few months ago, I posted a mail regarding the professional thesis I
was writing...
Well now, this the end and I promised that I would let everyone take a
look at it.

The subject is : "Cloud Computing in France - A model that will
transform companies: decision mechanisms and impacts". The perimeter
is: PaaS/IaaS and SME/Early adopters.

Any feedback would be great! (I'm sure there could be some
mistakes...)

Download it on Slideshare:
http://www.slideshare.net/cedricmora/cloud-computing-in-france

and read it like a book on Yudu:
http://www.yudu.com/item/details/114300/

Well,
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Cédric Mora

Adomas Svirskas

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:33:21 PM12/23/09
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It looks like an interesting and useful study, will take a closer
look. Best regards, happy holidays!
Adomas

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Alejandro Espinoza

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:09:53 PM12/23/09
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Cédric,

Thank you for sharing it. It looks very interesting.

Happy holidays,
Alex.

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:19:46 AM12/24/09
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I've noticed that you focus your work on Pass/IaaS, is there any reason for that? Why not to talk also about SaaS?

Sorry if have responded to this on your text, but I've only the opportunity to read a small part.

Paulo

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Stephan

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:43:45 AM12/24/09
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definitely interesting and relevant worlwide ... will help to spread the joy :)

stephan

Gabor Fulop

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Dec 24, 2009, 8:22:40 PM12/24/09
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Please also consider looking at BPaaS Business Platform-as-a Service. Let
me know if you need some info.

Regards,
Gabor
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Dec 26, 2009, 6:02:58 AM12/26/09
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Hi everybody, thank you for your comments!

I've had great reactions from everyone and I'm really touched.

To answer some of your questions, I did choose to focus on the PaaS/
IaaS perimeter because those are services that allow more specific
developments and it is already a big perimeter to work on. Adding SaaS
to it was not relevant for me because the services are a little more
mature and many people have already worked on the subject. I wanted to
limit the subject to a narrow perimeter...

Once again, happy holydays,
and don't hesitate to tell me what you think of the thesis!

Best regards,
Cédric

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Cedric, this is a pioneering work in France. In your conclusions you say that all economic advantages are not sufficient for French companies to bring Cloud Computing. You should have stressed out these economic advantages with a powerful real life example, with numbers and real life achievements. But this information was not readily accessible to you. Or maybe it is burried deep into the 165 pages I perused on the screen. Just point it out to me if I missed it.

You say the main reason clouds are admired from the distance is the security threat.You simply quote Forreste on that. The security threat,  is just a pretext we hear a lot and it is not insurmountable today. It is not the real reason. The real reason is that the employees of the IT  organizations in France are not tasked and paid to take risks.They stick mostly to their job descriptions. They will keep their jobs easier by maintaining the status quo.  I will be surprised if France will take leadership and implement the cloud computing in IT ahead of the rest of the world.

The French establishment is liberal in arts and "savoir-vivre"  defined in the dictionary as "the ability to live life well and with intelligent enjoyment, meeting every situation with poise, good manners, and elegance". Yet on the business level, France and Europe are extremely conservative. US must lead the transformational process to cloud computing, and we have a battle going on right now, We are ahead, but not by much.

All we need is a reputable provider of transformational Cloud Services for the IT. They will provide the entire solution for persistent applications. "The "no-one was fired because of IBM" mentality is predominant. The key to the adoption of something so compellingly good and new is the ability to blame and make pay others in case of failure. These "others" are the very rich, global providers.

This dumping of responsibility is the main reason why IBM and the IBM-like can charge their exhorbitant prices for Data Centers re-engineering. We should see a process of consolidations of cloud technologies via acquisitions (a small example among many is Sun Microsystems acquiring Belgian-based Q-Layer, a cloud computing company that automates the deployment and management of clouds).

This thesis will qualify you as consultant and contributor to the process of cloud adoption that has not even started on a significant scale.

Miha

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:01:35 AM12/29/09
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Thank you Miha for your comments!

Regarding the economic advantage, I confirm that for a majority of
French organizations the perceived risks are still bigger than the
economic and operational advantages. When you add on top of that the
fact an application may not create significant cost savings when
hosted in the cloud, we can understand why companies are still
experimenting. There is a simple example in my thesis (p 35) but
clearly, it would require a more detailed analysis.
I entered in contact recently with Srini Chari who made a great
presentation on this economic subject (Confronting the Data Center
Crisis: A Cost - Benefit Analysis of the IBM Computing on Demand (CoD)
Cloud Offering Reducing TCO and Enabling New Capability, Faster Time
to Results, and New Business Models).

Regarding the security threat, the conclusion I wrote may not clearly
sum up what I say in the thesis (p 64-65 & 101-102). I think the
security will be resolved very soon because this is the biggest risk
perceived by organizations and the investment made by all providers is
so large that these investors will have two get good answers. In the
end, organizations will face issues that are pretty basic in
outsourcing and are still unknown in the cloud computng environment
(change management, vendor management, maturity issues, etc.). When
you say that France will not take the leadership, you may be right
but, for example, we thought that French companies would not do
offshoring and now this is something quite usual like in the rest of
the world. Let's see how it will happen for Cloud Computing... (any
other French individual having an opinion on this?)

Best regards,
Cedric


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> Cedric, this is a pioneering work in France. In your conclusions you say that all economic advantages are not sufficient for French companies to bring Cloud Computing. You should have stressed out these economic advantages with a powerful real life example, with numbers and real life achievements. But this information was not readily accessible to you. Or maybe it is burried deep into the 165 pages I perused on the screen. Just point it out to me if I missed it.
>
> You say the main reason clouds are admired from the distance is the security threat.You simply quote Forreste on that. The security threat,  is just a pretext we hear a lot and it is not insurmountable today. It is not the real reason. The real reason is that the employees of the IT  organizations in France are not tasked and paid to take risks.They stick mostly to their job descriptions. They will keep their jobs easier by maintaining the status quo.  I will be surprised if France will take leadership and implement the cloud computing in IT ahead of the rest of the world.
>
> The French establishment is liberal in arts and "savoir-vivre"  defined in the dictionary as "the ability to live life well and with intelligent enjoyment, meeting every situation with poise, good manners, and elegance". Yet on the business level, France and Europe are extremely conservative. US must lead the transformational process to cloud computing, and we have a battle going on right now, We are ahead, but not by much.
>
> All we need is a reputable provider of transformational Cloud Services for the IT. They will provide the entire solution for persistent applications. "The "no-one was fired because of IBM" mentality is predominant. The key to the adoption of something so compellingly good and new is the ability to blame and make pay others in case of failure. These "others" are the very rich, global providers.
>
> This dumping of responsibility is the main reason why IBM and the IBM-like can charge their exhorbitant prices for Data Centers re-engineering. We should see a process of consolidations of cloud technologies via acquisitions (a small example among many is Sun Microsystems acquiring Belgian-based Q-Layer, a
> cloud computing company that automates the deployment and management of
> clouds).
>
> This thesis will qualify you as consultant and contributor to the process of cloud adoption that has not even started on a significant scale.
>
> Miha
>
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Cedric, the main point I made is that any of the French IT managers and IT decision makers are not paid to be Entrepreneurs. The mentality of "employee" is stronger in Europe than in US, yet it is universal.
As CIO of say Societe Generale or similar large account, can you tell me what incentive I have to start implementing the applications as services, buy cycles or IaaS or PaaS from outside providers and keep a pay-per-use exact data that might be used for invoicing?  Sure, I will know exactly every moment how much it costs to offer these services , at the level of each service.  I will transform the ubiquitous claim parrotted by every enterprise product "we reduce costs" of "we  reduce the TCO drastically" in real, easy, instant reports. I may even transform the Data Center in a profit point... I may even stop of talking "reducing costs" and replace with "increasing profits".

However, what happens if I fail? As an employee of such conservative financial institution, the word "failure" is synonym with "Dracula", "Frankenstein", "Gambler"  "Russian roulette"...  Innovation,  can not be implemented with zero risks, and no top manager in France, I read in between the lines, will ever take such a step. Will he say the truth? No, S/he will claim, oh, security (this is standard word everyone closes the mouth when told of the sacrosanct security), oh, not enough "proof", or maybe this year is too much solar activity. Or maybe the horoscopes are not favorable...

The only way to make the change , I repeat, is when a highly credible provider assumes the risks. This is why "Large Systems houses" can charge colossal fees. BECAUSE THEY ASSUAGE THE FEARS AND ASSUME THE  RISKS  the employees of large companies are unable, unwilling, and not paid or motivated to take them, however minimal.

One IBM executive in Italy defined what his job was. He said he was paid to give people the illusion that the world is predictable and controllable. This is why we have politicians and insurance companies. They sell exactly the same illusion.

Cedric, I think your thesis qualifies  you to join a team like that and start making happen the cloud computing in France or elsewhere. You should join an American global company :-) Your work so far is a door opener. If is used wisely and if you are lucky. Luck is very important ingredient, just as risk.

Happy New Year,

Miha



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One more data point from Forrester. The internal IT, and Enterprise Architects are des-intermediated by the Business Leaders when deciding to move to the cloud models. This is a threat internal IT should be aware .

http://www.forrester.com/rb/Research/eas_are_seeing_beginning_of_clouds_impact/q/id/55938/t/2?src=Alert

"Cloud-based IT deployments are accelerating what Forrester refers to as the IT-to-BT transition: Business leaders have an increased interest in technology to enhance business capabilities, but they are not necessarily relying on internal IT to provide that technology. When the enterprise architects in the Forrester Leadership Boards program met to discuss cloud computing's impact on IT and examine early-stage trends, we learned that enterprises are beginning to enjoy the benefits of the cloud but — as expected — are not necessarily engaging internal architects to provide guidance for when cloud deployments are appropriate. This is not a healthy pattern for EA, IT, or the business. The onus falls on EA to proactively take on an advisory role to guide the enterprise to the right use of cloud resources to enable the best possible enterprise architecture."

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It appears that EA’s role has been redefined to Enterprise Adversory (to CC)J

 

But do you really blame them?...Who wants to get rid of their job voluntarily?....

 

Even the big wig companies like IBM, HP, MS, Oracle/Sun etc etc are pushing private clouds because they do not want to loose their established business/empires.

 

So an interesting strategy for an EA would be to join the big wigs and promote private clouds. This way they can appear to support & promote CC at the same time keep his/her job or play the security card!.:-)

 


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