Fw: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

[Miha Ahronovitz]

@Jim S.

MySQL, for example, had a low end product that
couldn't have succeeded in traditional business models, but had superb
management, intelligent and long sighted investors, and a colossal
amount of luck (right time, right place, a marginally adequate product,
but one they couldn't sell).

Constriction breeds constriction.
A small-mind breeds small-thinking.
If you don't see enough room, or if you don't see enough opportunity, you're not going to try too hard, if at all.

From outside it seems luck.
Sure there is one way to call it.
Luck rarely comes if one doesn't believe in it.
Being cynical is a result of chronic skepticism,  because we can not see and believe in the opportunities others see.
We must have faith in what we do.This faith is what made  MySQL management "superb".


Miha

[Jim Starkey]

Miha Ahronovitz wrote:
>
> @Jim S.
>> MySQL, for example, had a low end product that
>> couldn't have succeeded in traditional business models, but had superb
>> management, intelligent and long sighted investors, and a colossal
>> amount of luck (right time, right place, a marginally adequate product,
>> but one they couldn't sell).
>
> Constriction breeds constriction.
> A small-mind breeds small-thinking.
> If you don't see enough room, or if you don't see enough opportunity,
> you're not going to try too hard, if at all.

Excuse me? Who's lecturing whom on what? Do remember that I'm the guy
who found Sun intolerably stifling, quit, and launched a new technology
and company. I've had two companies acquired and one wiped out by
Microsoft, so I do know a little about startups.

>
> From outside it seems luck.
> Sure there is one way to call it.
> Luck rarely comes if one doesn't believe in it.
> Being cynical is a result of chronic skepticism, because we can not
> see and believe in the opportunities others see.
> We must have faith in what we do.This faith is what made MySQL
> management "superb".
>

On the contrary, it was flexibility and experimentation, not faith.
Faith is "build it and they will come". Flexibility was required to
recognize those who were coming were coming without money and come up
with plans B then C to leverage the skinflint masses to reach the deep
pockets. It also requires a profound understanding of your own
strengths and weaknesses and an appreciation of the difference between
theory and practice (in theory, there is no difference). Monty, the
founder, couldn't get anywhere with MySQL. Marten, the CEO, made it fly.

--
Jim Starkey
Founder, NimbusDB, Inc.
978 526-1376

[Michael Fehse]

...and not to forget....it was "good enough".

The whole story of the "high end" and the "good enough" in http://www.amazon.com/Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Business-Essentials/dp/0060521996/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1

Best regards,

Michael Fehse

http://www.i-c-s-t.eu

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[Miha Ahronovitz]

@Jim,

Sure you have impressive credentials. (so do I, and many others on list) Your credential does not define what "luck" and "superb execution" is. These are platitudes to justify past successes, that are history. They do not to predict the future and give tangible advice:

Imagine telling a budding entrepreneur:

 "Do you have Luck? If not forget even starting"
"You need a superb execution"
"What is a superb execution?
" Superb execution is... "

My definitions;
Luck is when someone who has a meaningful life, where one loves every moments of it
Superb Execution is what people say about you when your company sold for ten millions dollars at least

Miha

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From: Jim Starkey <jsta...@nimbusdb.com>
To: cloud-c...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 8:37:56 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

[Erik Sliman]

I'm with you on this one, Miha.  With all the talk about MySQL and profits, it seemed to me that their sale for $1 billion was being overlooked in the discussion.  Clearly, they did something right, or perhaps they just unexpectedly landed in the right place at the right time!   

Looking back at JBoss, which sold for nearly half a billion, having been a fan of their effort since 2001, I'd say they had superb execution.