Clojure on the tiobe index

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BerlinBrown

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Jun 4, 2010, 10:11:06 AM6/4/10
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Nice.

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

It is number 16.

...combined with Lisp and Scheme.

Luke VanderHart

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Jun 4, 2010, 10:24:44 AM6/4/10
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Tiobes rankings always seems a little dubious to me.

Delphi more popular than Javascript? Really? Google Go more popular
than Lisp/Scheme/Clojure?

Ranking those three together is an atrocity, by the way. Just because
they all have paren's doesn't make them the same.

Anyway, I'm sure Tiobe measures something. But I'm not sure it's
anything useful.

lprefo...@softaddicts.ca

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Jun 4, 2010, 1:51:03 PM6/4/10
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I read the explanation on how they compute their charts.

I do not see why a Cobol or Fortran programmer would query the Web for
references on a regular basis.
What can be the significance of computing references on the Web about older
languages that do not evolve too much but that have a large application base ?

There's still a few hundred millions of Cobol lines out there in all these
bank processing centers and surely they are maintained somehow by human brains.
Seeing Cobol at the 24th rank does not make sense to me.

The popularity they say they measure here must be taken in the same way
as gossip tabloids... ephemeral and by no way reflecting real life :)))

It's not because the sales of cokes, chips and alike are blooming that it makes
them the best choice health wise. Beurk...


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BerlinBrown

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Jun 4, 2010, 2:59:46 PM6/4/10
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I don't think tiobe is all accurate index of anything. But when you
look at the actual rankings, they seem to line up, especially for the
mainstream languages.

I could see where Delphi ranks high on the list. "Go" is a little
odd.

But I was glad to see Clojure get a little recognition.

And I am still one of those guys that still considers Clojure as a JVM
language.

On Jun 4, 1:51 pm, lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca wrote:
> I read the explanation on how they compute their charts.
>
> I do not see why a Cobol or Fortran programmer would query the Web for
> references on a regular basis.
> What can be the significance of computing references on the Web about older
> languages that do not evolve too much but that have a large application base ?
>
> There's still a few hundred millions of Cobol lines out there in all these
> bank processing centers and surely they are maintained somehow by human brains.
> Seeing Cobol at the 24th rank does not make sense to me.
>
> The popularity they say they measure here must be taken in the same way
> as gossip tabloids... ephemeral and by no way reflecting real life :)))
>
> It's not because the sales of cokes, chips and alike are blooming that it makes
> them the best choice health wise. Beurk...
>
> Luc P.
>
> Luke VanderHart <luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> wrote ..

Mike Meyer

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Jun 4, 2010, 4:02:12 PM6/4/10
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
BerlinBrown <berlin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think tiobe is all accurate index of anything. But when you
> look at the actual rankings, they seem to line up, especially for the
> mainstream languages.
>
> I could see where Delphi ranks high on the list. "Go" is a little
> odd.

I suspect Go is getting interest because of Google's success. Compare
it to D or similar. If Google were pushing it as the tool for Android,
I'd expect it to be just a bit behind Objective-C.

I'm not sure what you mean about Delphi. But the definition says this
includes a slew of Pascal variants that picked up Delphi features as
well as some other Delphi tools. The grouping seems odd, but if you
think of it as "all OO Pascal variants", the rank makes a bit more
sense.

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