Firefox sidebar

[Brian Phillips]

It would be neat to have a version of the UI that would work well in
the Firefox sidebar. I've already used it a little this way since the
direct logins are fairly narrow on the left side of the UI but it
looks a little odd when you're logging in and you have to scroll
around horizontally.

Just a suggestion

[Marco Barulli]

Hi Brian,
we never thought about using the Firefox sidebar, but we are thinking
about making the "direct login" pane "detachable", i.e. a small
floating windows to be kept always on top.

Using the Firefox sidebar could be a nice idea for a future add-on.
We have not really any experience in developing Firefox extensions:
any help is welcome!

Thanks for using Clipperz!
Marco

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[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Hi Brian,

we have already start discussing about the "direct login detachable window".

The main problem we are facing is that Firefox defines through a
preference if new windows should be opened in new windows or just in
new tabs.

It would be very nice if we could choose which behaviour to use from
JavaScript, but I don't think this is possible.

We will investigate this issue further, as we are also missing this feature.

Thanks for using Clipperz.

Giulio Cesare

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Hi Brian,

try to load the following address in your FireFox sidebar:
<https://www.clipperz.com/beta/?compact>

It also has a 60 seconds auto lock feature (not customizable at the moment).

Let me know if this is what your were looking for.

Giulio Cesare

[domestika]

Hi Giulio,

Just wanted to tell you that this Compact sidebar is exactly what
Clipperz needed to make it really convenient to use. Yes, it would be
nice to be able to customize the time on the auto lock, but it's just
really good to have the sidebar option!

Jen

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Hi Jen,

thanks for the feedback, and also for the lengthy review you have done! ;-)

I am going to remove the auto-lock feature for the first "public"
release of the compact sidebar as we fear that it could create some
confusion, as at the moment the user interface provides no clue on
what had happened nor why.

We are still thinking on how to balance the convenience of the
auto-lock feature (I was already addicted only after a single day of
testing) and the predictability of the interface.

As we are getting closer to the public release of this new compact
mode, does anybody know if there is a way to achieve the same result
also with IE, without having to write a full plug-in?

Ciao,

Giulio Cesare

[Jen / domestika]

You're very welcome, Guilio. I plan for one more post on this, when
the sidebar is officially released.

re Sidebar -- just a reminder about that little glitch with Firefox 2,
that I'd talked about with Marco about earlier -- that is, sidebar
works perfectly when I put in name/passphrase and just hit the
'return' key, but actually clicking the login button just opens
another login window in a full-size tab...

re Auto Lock -- after the initial "what the heck is this?" reaction, I
have come to appreciate it, too...
most of the time... ;-)

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Jen

On 5/17/07, Jen / domestika <worke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You're very welcome, Guilio. I plan for one more post on this, when
> the sidebar is officially released.

:-)

> re Sidebar -- just a reminder about that little glitch with Firefox 2,
> that I'd talked about with Marco about earlier -- that is, sidebar
> works perfectly when I put in name/passphrase and just hit the
> 'return' key, but actually clicking the login button just opens
> another login window in a full-size tab...

Just fixed. It almost caused me an headache, but I have managed to solve it.

> re Auto Lock -- after the initial "what the heck is this?" reaction, I
> have come to appreciate it, too...
> most of the time... ;-)

I have attached a screenshot of the lates development version; there
is a checkbox to activate the "auto" lock feature, while the "lock" is
a plain link that locks the data immediately.

I am not 100% satisfied with this solution, but at the moment I don't
know how to improve it. So at the moment I am just wandering through
the sites of the people visiting our site while waiting for a better
idea. :-)

Do you have any suggestion?

Giulio Cesare

[Brian Phillips]

That looks great.  I did have one issue where when you're first logging in, it tries to open a URL in the main window in addition to logging you in to the sidebar.  I don't know if that's something specific to my firefox setup or not.

Otherwise, it looks great -- I like the auto-lock feature :-)

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Brian,

the problem you are seeing is real, and it happens when you click on
the button. It is fixed in my development setup, but you can avoid it
simply hitting enter instead of clicking on the button.

Thanks for your initial suggestion, otherwise I would have not be
aware of the option to use common web pages as sidebar in FireFox.

Giulio Cesare

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Hello,

I have just uploaded the new version that fixes the main problems
found on the preview of the Clipperz "compact" interface: release 700.

Enjoy it! ;-)

Giulio Cesare

[Jen / domestika]

You've been very busy, Guilio! The 'login' button now works properly
in FF2 - problem solved. And I certainly appreciate having the option
to check 'auto' when working around other people, but to leave the
'auto' off when in the comfort & privacy of my home. It's been rather
fun, to watch this feature evolve... :-)

[Israel]

hi all
i wanna know ho to use this firefox feature..
and use the clipperz as my account manager for everything..
just like a bar with links that you just click and this automaticaly
log me in in my gmail accounts for example, i have 3,
i need to be loging out and relogin every time i need to acces a
different one...
i wanna help you guys to make this works..
clipperz could be a must have thing with this firefox extension.
my name is Israel, i'm 17 and i live in Brazil..
clipperz user...

cya

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Hello Israel,

I am very happy that you want to enjoy Clipperz, but I fear it would
not solve your problem 100%; at least for GMail.

The problem is that GMail set some relevant information on the session
cookie, and when you try to log to a GMail account while being already
logged with another account, this later account is automatically
disconnected. And this happens both using direct logins and regular
form login.

I am using two different GMail accounts now, but one is a regular
GMail account, while the other is an account of the Google for domain
service. This is the only condition that I am aware of where you can
have two instances of GMail set on two different accounts working
together.

Other than this, you should be able to setup Clipperz in your FireFox
sidebar following Marco's instructions:
<http://www.clipperz.com/support/user_guide/clipperz_compact>

The only point where you can miss what to do is this:
3 - Change the properties of the bookmark so that "load this bookmark
in the sidebar" is checked.

To "change the properties of the bookmark", you have to right-click on
it, and select the "Properties" item from the contextual menu. Once
selected this option, a small properity inspector shows-up, and you
can check the "Load this bookmark in the sidebar" checkbox.

Does this help you?

Thanks for using Clipperz.

Best regards,

Giulio Cesare

[Israel]

Thx..
This helps a lot..
i gonna install this ff sidebar..
i'm trying to find something that let me login in multi google acc.
i know something about IE tab extension..
i was thinking in some code or something in clipperz specific for
gmail
kind of unloging code..
thx for helping me..
lets make clipperz beter..

[Israel]

Working.. Thanks very much!!
Screen Shot:
http://picasaweb.google.com/israaraujo/LbumSemTTulo/photo#5068334258770174434

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Hello Israel,

from your screenshot il looks like you are using many different Google
service, probably with the same account.

If this is the case, then Clipperz can help you a lot.

In fact, you can (and really should) create a single Google card (name
it how you like, but it should contain your Google account
credential), and add to this card as many "direct login" configuration
as you like, one for each Google service you want to use.

The single card - multile direct login is not a Google specific
feature, and can be used also with other services.

Thanks for using Clipperz.

Giulio Cesare

[Israel]

in fact i really use a lot aof google feat..
and this gonna be useful for the 1º of my acc.
but i use in different accounts..
pisaca, group, mail and reader in one.. another with e-mail and
group.. and the last one there's another email...
probably i gonna need more one for another e-mail..
i haven't made the credentials for all my google feat yet.
i have other like this in yahoo..
what about a unlogin or cookie cleaner code that unlog one acc and
automatically log in another..
maybe something that activate the firefox cookie cleaner...
im searching for something like this..
but problably the best way now is clicking "logout" in the screen
corner.
thx for helping..

[Giulio Cesare Solaroli]

Israel,

if you want to "logout" from a Google account and login into another,
it should be enough to close the window you don't need anymore and
simply use the direct login of the account you need to use.

The problem I have seen happens when you try to use together two accounts.

If you use one at a time (and close the relative window when you are
done), you should not have any problem.
You don't need to close upfront, but if you try to use a window logged
in with an account after having logged in on another window with a
different account, the first window starts to missbehave.

Giulio Cesare

On 5/25/07, Israel <israa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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