FreeBSD/BSDI Merger
David Greenman
>been getting submissions that Jordan announced a merger of BSDI and
>FreeBSD last night, but I can't seem to find confirmation.
>
> Naturally, of course, I don't want to put up something that I have
>no confirmation of. Would someone be so kind as to clue myself, and
>perhaps Nik (n...@slashdot.org) as well as to what's actually happening?
FreeBSD is an independant open-source project and can't really merge with
BSDI in the corporate sense. WC CDROM and BSDI, however, have been in merger
talks. I'm not at liberty to discuss what I know about this and suggest that
you ask the people more directly involved such as Bob Bruce <r...@cdrom.com>,
the President of Walnut Creek CDROM.
-DG
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Alfred Perlstein
> >I expect many people would like to see a merger of the best features
> >from both. What would be the point of merging without having that as
> >an objective?
>
> Well, if this were say, a Microsoft merger, the point would be to kill-off
> the (free) competition so the commercial product could flourish
> unhindered.
>
> Let's hope the BSD world is a little more honorable...
This concern is almost totally unneeded, the code is free and there
would be nothing stopping a few wounded individuals from starting
thier own distro should "the worse" happen.
All you'd have to do is point your cvsup clients somewhere else. :)
You may be able to kill the name "FreeBSD" but you can't kill the code
that it's made of.
Finally, let's not get ahead of ourselves spreading... oh god, i'm going
to say it... FUD.
The sky isn't falling in fact it looks like the clouds may part and
bring us some really interesting and exciting technology.
-Alfred
Arthur Kelly
wrote:
>> FreeBSD is an independant open-source project and can't really merge with
>> BSDI in the corporate sense. WC CDROM and BSDI, however, have been in merger
>> talks. I'm not at liberty to discuss what I know about this and suggest that
>> you ask the people more directly involved such as Bob Bruce <r...@cdrom.com>,
>> the President of Walnut Creek CDROM.
>>
>> -DG
>
> Thanks to all those who e-mailed me - I'm ok from here. Then
>notion of FreeBSD and BSDI merging seemed an odd event, and thank you for
>confirming my suspicions.
He did _not_ say the code or features won't merge though. Since
Walnut Creek provides much of the funding for FreeBSD development, it
seems that David simply deflected further questions.
I expect many people would like to see a merger of the best features
from both. What would be the point of merging without having that as
an objective?
hemos
> BSDI in the corporate sense. WC CDROM and BSDI, however, have been in merger
> talks. I'm not at liberty to discuss what I know about this and suggest that
> you ask the people more directly involved such as Bob Bruce <r...@cdrom.com>,
> the President of Walnut Creek CDROM.
>
> -DG
Thanks to all those who e-mailed me - I'm ok from here. Then
notion of FreeBSD and BSDI merging seemed an odd event, and thank you for
confirming my suspicions.
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John Baldwin
On 06-Mar-00 Danny wrote:
> I don't see why FreeBSD needs to merge with BSDI when FreeBSD is clearly so much
> better than BSDI.
Not entirely. For example, BSD/OS's -current has much better SMP support than
FreeBSD does. Each side would benefit if something like this did happen, but
I suggest you just wait until Jordan gets back into the states where he can get
to his e-mail and respond with actual facts before making all sorts of conjectures
and wild claims.
>> >I expect many people would like to see a merger of the best features
>> >from both. What would be the point of merging without having that as
>> >an objective?
>>
>> Well, if this were say, a Microsoft merger, the point would be to kill-off
>> the (free) competition so the commercial product could flourish
>> unhindered.
>>
>> Let's hope the BSD world is a little more honorable...
Rest assured that FreeBSD will always be free.
>> --Dan
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hemos
I sent a mail to Jordan, but got the Vacat-o-Mail Program. We've
been getting submissions that Jordan announced a merger of BSDI and
FreeBSD last night, but I can't seem to find confirmation.
Naturally, of course, I don't want to put up something that I have
no confirmation of. Would someone be so kind as to clue myself, and
perhaps Nik (n...@slashdot.org) as well as to what's actually happening?
Thanks,
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Marc Veldman
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:31:53 -0500 (EST), hemos <he...@slashdot.org>
> wrote:
>
> >> FreeBSD is an independant open-source project and can't really merge with
> >> BSDI in the corporate sense. WC CDROM and BSDI, however, have been in merger
> >> talks. I'm not at liberty to discuss what I know about this and suggest that
> >> you ask the people more directly involved such as Bob Bruce <r...@cdrom.com>,
> >> the President of Walnut Creek CDROM.
> >
> > Thanks to all those who e-mailed me - I'm ok from here. Then
> >notion of FreeBSD and BSDI merging seemed an odd event, and thank you for
> >confirming my suspicions.
>
> He did _not_ say the code or features won't merge though. Since
> Walnut Creek provides much of the funding for FreeBSD development, it
> seems that David simply deflected further questions.
>
> I expect many people would like to see a merger of the best features
> from both. What would be the point of merging without having that as
> an objective?
I was at a meeting today, (the kick-off for the Dutch FreeBSD user group)
where Jordan talked at some length about the upcoming WC/BSDI merger.
Jordan confirmed there that at least a number of features will
merge. (Better Java Support, better kernel threads.)
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Dan O'Connor
>from both. What would be the point of merging without having that as
>an objective?
Well, if this were say, a Microsoft merger, the point would be to kill-off
the (free) competition so the commercial product could flourish
unhindered.
Let's hope the BSD world is a little more honorable...
--Dan
wellsian
I heard several months ago that BSDI was going to start incorporating more
of FreeBSD's code into their own base. That's good for them; they had
fallen behind for years. But that makes me wonder what FreeBSD gets from
BSDI? Is there a discussion on this somewhere, with people who better
understand the differences?
Dave
Danny
better than BSDI.
On Sun, 05 Mar 2000, Dan O'Connor wrote:
> >I expect many people would like to see a merger of the best features
> >from both. What would be the point of merging without having that as
> >an objective?
>
> Well, if this were say, a Microsoft merger, the point would be to kill-off
> the (free) competition so the commercial product could flourish
> unhindered.
>
> Let's hope the BSD world is a little more honorable...
>
> --Dan
>
>
>
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Arthur Kelly
<well...@caffeine.com> wrote:
>I heard several months ago that BSDI was going to start incorporating more
>of FreeBSD's code into their own base. That's good for them; they had
>fallen behind for years.
That depends on your perspective.
If you're comfortable installing your own tarballs and don't need the
help from a ports collection, I would not call BSD/OS "behind." In my
experience, the BSD/OS core is more robust and faster.
There are numerous features in BSD/OS not found in FreeBSD. Multilink
PPP, token-ring drivers, SDL T1 card support (which is excellent), and
others I'm probably forgetting at the moment.
And softupdates have been very stable in BSD/OS for some time now.