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Marjorie Comtois
Bought an aftermarket graphite driver golf shaft via online from a reputable golf/clubmaker store. Gave all the specs that I wanted (floed, 45.25" playing length, grip logo 12 o'clock, adapter tip on neutral, etc.).
i get the shaft and all is well, except it's about 3/8" too long and grip logo is more at 11 o'clock along with it being stretch way to long, making it a bit thin feel. After some discussions with the online store (they promised to make it right, but were gonna just blow out the old grip & use it again (which I did not like, idea wise) after cutting shaft), I figured, just go to my known club maker at my local Golfsmith and just have him do it for the price of a new grip & 0.99 install (he never charges me for trimming shafts) & not having to worry about driver head & shaft being handled by carriers on this busy (holiday) schedule/season. 'Lo and behold, I get home and compare other grips (Golf Pride NDMC) that I have and it's still a bit too stretched out.
So, I decided to order an install kit from Golf Works with a new grip. After removing the old grip, I discover a 1/2" (more of less) crack from the end of the butt of shaft running upwards towards the tip, almost exactly at 12 o'clock position wise. I mean, it's only 1/2", so I just went ahead and installed the new grip to my preferred feel & length.
I do not know who to put the blame on the crack (can't be me, because I removed the old grip VERY CAREFULLY with a hook blade & I passed the blade on the opposite side of the crack), as it could be from the online store or from my clubmaker.
Go for "Plan B"
Cut it, no extension needed. I never saw a player who could handle a driver above 45 so the odds is very small that you will benefit from playing that length. its more likely you will benefit from a club shorter than 45
I like the last two options... epoxy reinforcement with an old shaft... trick is, I don't have an old graphite shaft to use for this fixer-upper... I guess I'll have to go "scavenger" hunting...
Thx again guys... keep the suggestions & thought coming... I'm always willing to learn & absorb advises...
P. S. (edit) - how would you guys cut up a nice piece of graphite shaft to be at the required 1" in height? I recently ordered the "tube" cutter w/the replacement graphite wheel from golfworks, but that cuts around/circumference wise, so how do you guys cut nice straight parallel on the long sides of a golf shaft?
Could you insert a graphite shaft extension and epoxy it in, then just cut it off at its current length? That will provide some interior reinforcement.
Or, cut it down 1/2" and play the driver shorter. You will enjoy better contact and more accuracy without a loss of distance. I'm 6' 1" and play mine at 44.5". There are many tour pros playing drivers at 44.5" or shorter.
[quote name='Hot Rod 71' timestamp='1419113222' post='10622073']
Could you insert a graphite shaft extension and epoxy it in, then just cut it off at its current length? That will provide some interior reinforcement.
Or, cut it down 1/2" and play the driver shorter. You will enjoy better contact and more accuracy without a loss of distance. I'm 6' 1" and play mine at 44.5". There are many tour pros playing drivers at 44.5" or shorter.
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Good though on the the shaft extension & just cut it off the the current length... I'm not thinking... man, I can't believe I can't think of stuff like this on my own... doo-ey!
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[quote name='Hot Rod 71' timestamp='1419113222' post='10622073']
Could you insert a graphite shaft extension and epoxy it in, then just cut it off at its current length? That will provide some interior reinforcement.
Or, cut it down 1/2" and play the driver shorter. You will enjoy better contact and more accuracy without a loss of distance. I'm 6' 1" and play mine at 44.5". There are many tour pros playing drivers at 44.5" or shorter.
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Good though on the the shaft extension & just cut it off the the current length... I'm not thinking... man, I can't believe I can't think of stuff like this on my own... doo-ey!
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Haha. No worries. I've had the same type of moments.
You could do the extension business, only most of them have a really sloppy fit inside the shaft and require a lot of epoxy to fill the gap. I'd see if your local golf shop has an old shattered pull or something cheap. You can cut the shaft with the edge of a bench grinder stone. Makes a lot of dust but it cuts clean, and you grind the end to dress it square.
Although I've never used it for your intended purpose, I would try JB KwikWeld, I have used it on multiple surfaces with very good results. Since you don't have easy access to a piece of graphite, this may be an option.
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1419116369' post='10622257']
You could do the extension business, only most of them have a really sloppy fit inside the shaft and require a lot of epoxy to fill the gap. I'd see if your local golf shop has an old shattered pull or something cheap. You can cut the shaft with the edge of a bench grinder stone. Makes a lot of dust but it cuts clean, and you grind the end to dress it square.
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I get the "oversize" graphite extensions and then sand them down to fit snugly inside the shaft. Works like a charm.
Cut an old shaft up....Epoxy it in the end of your shaft and cut it a the same length as your shaft now. Use like 4" of shaft...wont take much. Be careful how hard you jam it in the end so you dont make the crack longer.
Basically option c, but adding a bunch of strength to it.
Definitely some great ideas here.
I'm not a club pro club builder put in my thinking if you don't get rid of the crack it will eventually over time get worse. I have no data or stats to back this up. It just seems the force from the swing would help splinter the shaft more, regardless of if there's something a extension or old shaft installed in the butt.
To make sure, I'm not knocking anybody's ideas for fixing the solution, but merely commenting on what was posted throughout the thread. These are just my guesses on what could happen.
Just curious what shaft it is?
[quote name='Howard Jones' timestamp='1419105936' post='10621635']
Go for "Plan B"
Cut it, no extension needed. I never saw a player who could handle a driver above 45 so the odds is very small that you will benefit from playing that length. its more likely you will benefit from a club shorter than 45
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HA! Really?
[quote name='rymail00' timestamp='1419139062' post='10623369']
Definitely some great ideas here.
I'm not a club pro club builder put in my thinking if you don't get rid of the crack it will eventually over time get worse. I have no data or stats to back this up. It just seems the force from the swing would help splinter the shaft more, regardless of if there's something a extension or old shaft installed in the butt.
To make sure, I'm not knocking anybody's ideas for fixing the solution, but merely commenting on what was posted throughout the thread. These are just my guesses on what could happen.
Just curious what shaft it is?
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Miyazaki B. Asha 4R (regular flex, 51 grams)...
Was really contemplating either the epoxy or epoxy w/reinforcement, but concerned that down the line either pieces of epoxy would loosen up & cause "rattleing" or like you mention, it will eventually get worse no matter what. Maybe I'll play it as is for a bit & see how dispersion is. If bad, then I will "cut" it & hopefully at that time the "crack" hasn't gotten worse. Still haven't 100% committed to what to do...
[quote name='alfie' timestamp='1419146029' post='10623555']
[quote name='rymail00' timestamp='1419139062' post='10623369']
Definitely some great ideas here.
I'm not a club pro club builder put in my thinking if you don't get rid of the crack it will eventually over time get worse. I have no data or stats to back this up. It just seems the force from the swing would help splinter the shaft more, regardless of if there's something a extension or old shaft installed in the butt.
To make sure, I'm not knocking anybody's ideas for fixing the solution, but merely commenting on what was posted throughout the thread. These are just my guesses on what could happen.
Just curious what shaft it is?
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Miyazaki B. Asha 4R (regular flex, 51 grams)...
Was really contemplating either the epoxy or epoxy w/reinforcement, but concerned that down the line either pieces of epoxy would loosen up & cause "rattleing" or like you mention, it will eventually get worse no matter what. Maybe I'll play it as is for a bit & see how dispersion is. If bad, then I will "cut" it & hopefully at that time the "crack" hasn't gotten worse. Still haven't 100% committed to what to do...
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What lenght do you play your irons and 3W
A lightweight shaft like that will have thin walls and susceptibility to the crack getting bigger. I would go the cut off and extend if need be.
With walls that thin, do it correctly and go to a good clubbuilder. I did a DIY with a Fuji Six awhile back and didn't seat the cut off graphite shafts well. The butt eventually cracked from torquing of extension during the swing. It was a 1" extension though.
I would also try using grips that have longer-bigger grip caps. There are some older grips that actually extend actual measurement by 1/4".
If it was me I would foce the crack open just a teey weeny bit apply super glue and let it set before doing any of the other stuff. Thinking about where it is crackedhow in normal play are you going to make the crack worse, surely it's sticking out of your left hand in play.
How many of you guys that are relly into the club making / tweaking / customising have a background in engineering? I'm just curious my background was as a maintainence fitter, Job description if it's broken fix it, if it needs parts to fix it make them, this applied to the heavy machinery that made the product either hot or cold forged down to the machine that stapled the boxes that the finished products were shipped in. I don't know what you call this job in the States but you get the picture. My long dead now old mentor had a saying "If someone else has made it we can make it better" That little saying has stood me in good stead for 50 years.