Before you skip the rest of my post and start flinging words around in the comments, hear me out. I think Revit is a valuable tool and that soon (if not already) it and other BIM programs will become just part of the game and you'll have to learn it. It's either that or you can become an employer and just be out of touch with reality.
Right now the majority of the employers who are looking for and hiring interns with experience in Revit are only looking to hire people to work in Revit. You may get lucky and be tasked with teaching the old curmudgeons in the office about the fancy new software, but you don't want to do that anyway. You know better, and you don't want to be pigeonholed as a Revit monkey anymore than your forefathers and foremothers wanted to be pigeonholed as draftsmen and draftswomen. You understand that it takes more than a computer and a copy of Revit to create a building and you want to find a job that will guide and encourage you to learn about what happens outside your user interface.
Let's play around in the Job Board for a little bit. Search for jobs containing the keyword "Revit" and (at the time of this writing) you come up with no less than 157 matches. But wait, you're not an architect yet, you want to become one. Search instead for jobs with the keyword "intern" and you get 46 matches. Not too bad if you don't need to narrow your job search for a specific region. Of those 46 matches, add the keyword "Revit" once more and you'll see that now there are only 20 jobs that want you to be both an intern and know Revit. I can't say how many of those are in your region or even if they'll look at a candidate from out of the area.
20 jobs. Out of the 46 positions for interns, less than half want you to know Revit. Okay, you'll stand out if you learn Revit and the employer will want to hire you over the next candidate. But you're not really standing out with just knowing Revit. Pretend you're an employer looking in the talent finder for someone who knows Revit. There are 1312 talented job seekers vying for your future employer's attention. It gets better if you add "intern" to the search terms, now there is only 187 competing for 20 jobs. But remember, these are just the people that have created a profile with Archinect. There are plenty more who have made accounts and look at the job boards and even more than that who lurk around there without logging in.
The point is that Revit will not get you onto the short list. And if it did, rest assured that you would only be working in Revit, especially if you tout yourself as an expert in order to stand out. Why would an employer want to pay you, the Revit guru, to waste time working on obscure IDP hours when they need you cranking out drawings?
Revit may guarantee you a job, but it won't guarantee you a license. And you paid way to much for that fancy education to get stuck modeling and printing CD sets competing with people who can do the same after spending some time with a pirated version of the software and google.
what a great set of knowledge for some1 like me, a student of architecture graduating in next 2 years. as far the post goes recently for about last 6 months i m extremely into REVIT just because i think what i lacked was a way to put forward the idea in my mind the right way, i m very weak on the manual side and was desperate to have a tool to represent the idea in best possible way as always my teachers would appreciate the idea but not what was on paper. i hope i am moving in right direction and would extremely appreciate ur precious advices if any still comes by....
TBH I recently graduated, worked in a consultancy firm specializing on consulting every firm in the world in BIM then moved onto BIM for the surveying industry, every job I've had in the last several months have only been BIM Coordinator or BIM manager. People are finding it hard to even offer me entry level architecture jobs because of my specialization and what I'm already paid....
It took me 5 years to evolve from a BIM Chimp(Revit Specialist) to a project designer - once you get pigeon holed, it is real hard to get out - In order to get past the Revit Specialist slot, it was necessary to find good offices(that are not well known) that were willing to "trade" my Revit skills for their architecture assignments - that has worked for me - you can't get away with that at a big name firm - there is just too much competition from those who have the architecture design experience and Revit experience as well - try picking a small not as well known firm that needs your Revit experience and would be willing to "trade"
"And to be honest, I would MUCH rather have a new hire that knows how to put a building together than run Revit - even for production. A lack of the former cannot be overcome by any degree of the latter. IMHO, Revit makes this more grossly apparent than in firms producing CD's in 2D formats"
IDP = Intern Development Program. Administered by NCARB (National Council of Architectural Registration Boards) it is a program to categorize and document the experience portion necessary* to be eligible to become a licensed architect in the United States. Will be renamed at the end of June to the Architectural Experience Program (AXP).
ARE = Architect Registration Examination. Also administered by NCARB, a series of examinations that upon passing fulfills the examination portion necessary* to become a licensed architect in the United States.
*There are of course alternative paths to licensure in various jurisdictions within the United States, but the pathway relying on IDP and the ARE (as well as a NAAB-accredited degree) are accepted in all US jurisdictions.
i have been involved in the "real-A-state" apocalypse. and during this same time... it has seamed that 'revit' has became the new "thing" (autodesk has it's pull on the scheme of things - the profession)... although i believe that what others have said in this post... a 'pen' can not replace a head in getting a building built - let alone designed - because i have to think that it starts with a pen and ends with the contractor and ultimately with the client. i often joke about how i think the profession should go back to "hand drafting". because i believe the profession should be an art on all senses. but my situation is that most jobs "require" not only you know revit, but you have a few years under your belt with it. i suppose this is the modern day of a draftsmen? i'm not sure? and i suppose me getting a job at a warehouse for a few years during that transitional time did a lot of bad. but what i'm thinking is that these firms that have a pre-qual to a software are wanting a draftsmen (someone to do the grunt work of the contractual work to the contractor and client)... and that's not my goal. but it also seams that even getting into a firm these days all revolves around your experience (with software (BIM)) and not your mentality and goals / culture? so i guess my question is... i've been in the profession for several years... and i feel like i'm just getting back into it (i.e because of my lack of practice of revit i am like a graduate) because of software? or waiting for the right firm... which i guess is what the issue is and always has been...
i've interviewed very well with employers and when the discussion about Revit comes up it's the deal breaker. i have demonstrated through examples of CD's that i have used Revit in the past. But because those were done in my m.arch program it didn't seem to count.
"Design sensibility, critical thinking, and effective communication are essential. We also look for computer aptitude, but not necessarily specific software, as individuals with aptitude can typically pick up any necessary software.... Each new hire immediately joins a project team and is integrated into the office through their team. If employees need Revit training, we will provide them formal instruction. They will also be oriented to our office standards and resources."
Albeit this is just one firm, I believe good firms look first for a good cultural fit, and trust that capable, intelligent, and motivated people can learn skills quickly. Wouldn't most rather work for an organization that is willing to teach its employees? Shouldn't this be part of the responsibility of any good office?
If it still bothers you that much, you could replace the word "Revit" with whatever is the new buzz word that young aspiring architects think will make them employable (Grasshopper, Dynamo, killer renderings, etc.).
square - i'm calling bullshit on the CO Architects post. I guarantee if you go into an interview there and say, "oh I don't know Revit, but you guys said you train people so no problem." you will not get hired.
bottom line is that the industry is cutting out anyone who does not stay on top of technology. and the bar keeps getting raised higher and higher on how much tech you know and how much experience you have with it.
eventually there will be a chasm between people who just use cad and those who use Revit. the auto cad users will be designing chicken coops and stock house plans. Revit users will get all the good jobs.
I think the point is if you know enough software, you can conceivably pick up another pretty quickly. Of course you wouldn't get hired if you offered your response; there is a much more tactful way of saying you don't have much experience with one piece of software. There are plenty of firms who embrace this attitude. Like I said, I would be weary of a firm that expected a candidate to know everything as an entry level designer.. I guarantee that is a reflection on the office culture.
Revit is the new Autocadd, and it gives designers and architects a better idea of what they're doing. The lines and every snap to item stay on point everytime, no more disconnected lines, and no need to draw sections so BIM is here to stay.
This post is dated. The opposite is true now. Revit is the key skill set employers seek for junior and mid-level interns architects. A good design portfolio is the icing on the cake. A shame but true.
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