Re: [Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 103, Issue 10
Kathi Koester via Clayart
have one of the coasters with kyanite and glass center perfected in a
factory setting over 25 years by a professional….and i am pondering your
discussion as i sip my morning coffee…. yes the clear-blue glass fractals
and cracks have a differentiation about them from the beautiful cone 10
glazes that surround them… but glaze is also glass…. ever noticed when
copper red doesn’t turn red on one side that it, too, has that same
crackled look on the pots?
Decades ago i made 1 candle holder commission, then got sued because it
dripped onto the customers antique wood table when she used it. Not worth
the hassle.
The integrity to fit a clay with its ‘favorite’ glazes is the high road.
There is so much joy in sharing all good clay items with people new &
returning to buy.
Sincerely,
Kathi Koester
612-867-0829
MAKNART Ceramics
Author: Our Piano Teacher ISBN: 978-1-64416-853-0
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> 1. Re: Clayart Digest, Vol 103, Issue 9 (Thatpotteryguy)
> 2. kyonite (mel jacobson)
> 3. Re: Update on melted glass in pots (Dorothy Parshall)
> 4. Re: Update on melted glass in pots (David Woof)
> 5. Re: kyonite (ron...@ca.inter.net)
> 6. Re: Phil Poburka (russel...@gmail.com)
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> > Subject: [Clayart] Phil poburka
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> > Was his most recent address Herrington kansas 67449 at 12 north Street?
> > I?ve sent a peice of mail.
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> > Any other ideas on how to look in on Phil?
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> > Rox
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> > Phil's last active post on Facebook was May 30. There is something after
> that, but it's junk and could be the result of his account being hijacked.
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> There is mention earlier of a major injury, and recovery, but I didn't read
> deep enough for specifics.
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> Subject: [Clayart] kyonite
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> Kyonite is added to the clay mix and deaired pugged to perfection at
> Continental Clay. The batches my friend has made are in the many thousands
> of pounds and percentages are not accurate for home use.
>
> Basically it makes the surface of the pot fit the melting glass
> And solves her problem.
>
> No one cooks in them, they are not even the right shape for
> Cooking. People sure love them, and they are expensive.
> mel
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> website: www.melpots.com
> WWW.clayartarchives.com
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> From: Dorothy Parshall <doro...@whidbey.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Update on melted glass in pots
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> It just hit me on the head! Why are potters looking at doing something to
> their pots that have the possibility of doing harm? I remember an
> experienced potter saying to me, about 40 years ago, ?There is so much to
> learn about ceramics that it would take several lifetimes to get it all.?
> In my lifetime, I have barely scratched the surface. I delight in reading
> posts by those who have experienced so much more. I love seeing pics of
> unique pots, interesting surfaces and glazing techniques. The brain boggles
> and - ?gee I could try this, or that?!? I have yet to see any good reason
> to try glass, of any sort. All I have seen, on here, are good reasons not
> to bother. Certainly it will not help the world recycle glass. Let?s
> re-invent the wheel? Or re-read A Canticle for Leibowitz? Or am just old
> and crochety?
>
> Dorothy
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> > On Jun 13, 2024, at 12:30?AM, Robert L. Johnson via Clayart <
> cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:
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> > Thank you to those of you who sent warnings about using melted glass in
> > food vessels. I used a test inspired by astronomers who test the adhesion
> > of reflective mirror surfaces with pieces of duct tape. Sure enough, on a
> > small fraction of pots tiny glass granules came off on my duct tape test
> > strips!
> >
> > As a result, I'll sell these with the caution that they are not to be
> used
> > with food--particularly liquid foods. (Chips should be OK, I think.) I'm
> > doing further tests by putting them all through the diswasher and then
> > subjecting them to the duct tape again.
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> > Bob
> > in Southern Oregon
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> From: David Woof <woof...@hotmail.com>
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> Robert Johnson from Southern Oregon Said: <"As a result, I'll sell these
> with the caution that they are not to be used
> with food-">
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> Dear Robert, Everyone,
> Is it not true that If a compromised clay vessel appears created for
> utilitarian use it will likely be used as such for serving, eating, or
> drinking.
> And the "Dummying Down" of the American Public (the so called Educated
> included) makes it all the more certain.
>
> Why in "Human Created" Hell would one even consider selling what one
> considers compromised vessels with a duct taped warning that will most
> likely soon be lost and forgotten by the user? Or Passed on as a gift or
> as inherited....da..da..da
> Does that action absolve one from a responsibility one's conscience and
> perhaps degraded sense of ethics nudges one to perform?
>
> Is each one of our works so desperately precious and saleable in our minds
> that we forget the quality control hammer and shard pile.
>
> Just a curious Question, no Judgments here. Just asking, heh?
>
> The minute shards and slivers of glass or tramp manufacturing metals may
> only pose a problem in our minds,....but not thinking about our thinking is
> usually the real and lasting threat to our health and survival.
>
> Trolls, please feel free to express your opinions.
> AS it's often said about opinions, "everyone has one and most of them
> stink."
>
> Love to all,
>
> Woof..................................................................................................................................................................
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> From: Clayart <clayart...@lists.clayartforum.com> on behalf of
> Robert L. Johnson via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:30 PM
> To: cla...@lists.clayartforum.com <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
> Cc: Robert L. Johnson <impal...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Clayart] Update on melted glass in pots
>
> Thank you to those of you who sent warnings about using melted glass in
> food vessels. I used a test inspired by astronomers who test the adhesion
> of reflective mirror surfaces with pieces of duct tape. Sure enough, on a
> small fraction of pots tiny glass granules came off on my duct tape test
> strips!
>
> As a result, I'll sell these with the caution that they are not to be used
> with food--particularly liquid foods. (Chips should be OK, I think.) I'm
> doing further tests by putting them all through the diswasher and then
> subjecting them to the duct tape again.
>
> Bob
> in Southern Oregon
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> From: ron...@ca.inter.net
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> Subject: Re: [Clayart] kyonite
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> Hi Mel,
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> Perhaps you could inquire, does she have liability insurance or has
> she explored what would happen if any glass got into food?
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> RR
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> Quoting mel jacobson via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>:
>
> > Kyonite is added to the clay mix and deaired pugged to perfection at
> > Continental Clay. The batches my friend has made are in the many
> > thousands of pounds and percentages are not accurate for home use.
> >
> > Basically it makes the surface of the pot fit the melting glass
> > And solves her problem.
> >
> > No one cooks in them, they are not even the right shape for
> > Cooking. People sure love them, and they are expensive.
> > mel
> >
> > website: www.melpots.com
> > WWW.clayartarchives.com
> >
> >
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> Ron Roy
> ron...@ca.inter.net
> Web page ronroy.net
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 19:53:06 +0200
> From: <russel...@gmail.com>
> To: <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
> Cc: "'Roxanne Hunnicutt'" <rox...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Phil Poburka
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> All,
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> I?m just dipping in (hope this works) to say that Phil is alive and well.
> You can find and friend him on facebook.
>
>
>
> He just posted 3hrs ago about his other love Pigeons! ?
>
>
>
> He?s said recently that he?s very, very,very behind on fulfilling orders
> for his tools. He was sick for a while, that put him even further behind.
> He?s stopped taking orders at one time, which also became unpopular.
>
>
>
> There is a lot of frustration among people who have ordered tools and not
> received them yet. His friends and defenders remind people how consciences
> he is and that it?s really a one man show for every hand made part.
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> Missing you all. ?
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> Russel
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ronroy--- via Clayart
Thanks for all that!
Just a few words about clay and glass. We are in the business of
bonding two (and sometimes many) materials together that have
different CTE's (coefficient of thermal expansion). When we get it
right it's a great result. When we get it wrong it's most times
dismissed as good enough. We can now usually predict when there is a
problem and even make adjustments in most cases using calculation. The
problem with using random glass is we don't know the constituents so
we cannot predict or correct.
When I was a student at art college in the 60's I used to make ash
trays with glass bottoms - almost flat. A friend to had a coffee house
decided he wanted some and I sold him a few dozen. There was no 2nd
order - they were all stolen by his customers.
RR
Quoting Kathi Koester via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>:
> Thank you David Woof, Ron and all, for reiterating that safety is first. I
> have one of the coasters with kyanite and glass center perfected in a
> discussion as i sip my morning coffee?. yes the clear-blue glass fractals
> copper red doesn?t turn red on one side that it, too, has that same
> Decades ago i made 1 candle holder commission, then got sued because it
> dripped onto the customers antique wood table when she used it. Not worth
> the hassle.
> returning to buy.
>
> Sincerely,
> Kathi Koester
> 612-867-0829
> MAKNART Ceramics
>
> Author: Our Piano Teacher ISBN: 978-1-64416-853-0
>
>