Re: [Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 124, Issue 7

[Madeleine Hall-Arber via Clayart]

When making bird figures with tall skinny legs, I've used the wire, then post firing coated it with a clay epoxy (e.g., Fixit), then used acrylic inks for color. Good luck. Let us know if you find success!

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1. Re: Wire stamens (Cynosure -Arts)
2. Re: Nichrome/ kenthral wire (ron...@ca.inter.net)
3. Re: Nichrome/ kenthral wire (Terry Lazaroff)
4. Re: Nichrome/ kenthral wire (Kanika Sircar)


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Why not consider post-fire applications? Acrylic paint is quite durable (probably need to apply a primer first). If the sculpture is going outside, exterior house or boat paint.
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 12:21:44 -0400
From: ron...@ca.inter.net
To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum
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Subject: Re: [Clayart] Nichrome/ kenthral wire
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Hi Antoinette,

Sounds like you want to fire clay on metal. I can't imagine the
expansions would be close enough. Perhaps getting the metal powder
coated would work.


RR

Quoting Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>:

> Thanks Terry. Yes I did the AI thing. Once one know how to use and
> manipulate AI, you?ll also know it just do your searches much faster than
> you can. You still have to check the facts.
>
> Anyway, I think the biggest issue will be to make the clay stick to the
> wire and then there is also the matter of metal bleeding through the clay,
> which will not that easily happen to stoneware. I guess it is just one of
> those things that needs to be tested and tried. But I was hoping some of
> our old timers have experience to share.
>
> Best wishes,
> Antoinette Badenhorst
> www.porcelainbyantoinette.com<http://www.porcelainbyantoinette.com>
> www.teachinart.com<http://www.teachinart.com>
> MSClayworks.com
> arts.ms.gov/artist/antoinette-badenhorst
> www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst<http://www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 6:22?AM Terry Lazaroff via Clayart <
> cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:
>
>> I am going to give advice that some people may not like. I askied your
>> question in AI. Got some good advice especially using the wire as stamens
>> of the flow.
>>
>> Good luck
>> ________________________________
>> From: Clayart <clayart...@lists.clayartforum.com> on behalf of
>> Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2026 4:31 PM
>> To: clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
>> Cc: Antoinette Badenhorst <porcelainb...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Clayart] Nichrome/ kenthral wire
>>
>> Hi guys. Does anyone have any experience with coloring nichrome or central
>> wire in the fire? I am planning a project where I need "pollen threads" for
>> flowers. This is an architectural installation project, so I am trying to
>> use the most durable material I can.
>> My research online corresponds with my knowledge that these materials peels
>> off (shiver the kiln). I was wondering if I would coat it with a layer of
>> slip and color with stain, or maybe better, an engobe, how well it may
>> stick. I was also thinking of making it from paperclay, so that there may
>> be more room for shrinking. As I am writing this I thought since it does
>> not have to be translucent, I should consider stoneware clay, since it may
>> be shrinking less than porcelain.
>> Any thoughts out there will be appreciated.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Antoinette Badenhorst
>>
>>
>>
>> *PorcelainByAntoinette <https://www.porcelainbyantoinette.com/#/>*
>>
>> *TeachinArt* <https://www.teachinart.com/antoinette-badenhorst.html>
>>
>> *International Academy of Ceramics*
>> <https://www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst/>
>>
>> *Mississippi Arts Commission
>> <https://arts.ms.gov/artist/antoinette-badenhorst/>*
>>
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 14:07:57 -0400
From: Terry Lazaroff <terryl...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Clayart] Nichrome/ kenthral wire
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I remember a Canadian Leopold Foulem ( disceased )he did a series using wire coated in porcelain clay. I tried to find some photos of the series, without success. He had teapot forms. Along with other forms. Try a search, you might be able to find this series.
Terry

> On Mar 28, 2026, at 12:25?PM, ronroy--- via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:
>
> ?Hi Antoinette,
>
> Sounds like you want to fire clay on metal. I can't imagine the expansions would be close enough. Perhaps getting the metal powder coated would work.
>
>
> RR
>
> Quoting Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>:
>
>> Thanks Terry. Yes I did the AI thing. Once one know how to use and
>> manipulate AI, you?ll also know it just do your searches much faster than
>> you can. You still have to check the facts.
>>
>> Anyway, I think the biggest issue will be to make the clay stick to the
>> wire and then there is also the matter of metal bleeding through the clay,
>> which will not that easily happen to stoneware. I guess it is just one of
>> those things that needs to be tested and tried. But I was hoping some of
>> our old timers have experience to share.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Antoinette Badenhorst
>> www.porcelainbyantoinette.com<http://www.porcelainbyantoinette.com>
>> www.teachinart.com<http://www.teachinart.com>
>> MSClayworks.com
>> arts.ms.gov/artist/antoinette-badenhorst
>> www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst<http://www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 6:22?AM Terry Lazaroff via Clayart <
>>> cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am going to give advice that some people may not like. I askied your
>>> question in AI. Got some good advice especially using the wire as stamens
>>> of the flow.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Clayart <clayart...@lists.clayartforum.com> on behalf of
>>> Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2026 4:31 PM
>>> To: clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
>>> Cc: Antoinette Badenhorst <porcelainb...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Clayart] Nichrome/ kenthral wire
>>>
>>> Hi guys. Does anyone have any experience with coloring nichrome or central
>>> wire in the fire? I am planning a project where I need "pollen threads" for
>>> flowers. This is an architectural installation project, so I am trying to
>>> use the most durable material I can.
>>> My research online corresponds with my knowledge that these materials peels
>>> off (shiver the kiln). I was wondering if I would coat it with a layer of
>>> slip and color with stain, or maybe better, an engobe, how well it may
>>> stick. I was also thinking of making it from paperclay, so that there may
>>> be more room for shrinking. As I am writing this I thought since it does
>>> not have to be translucent, I should consider stoneware clay, since it may
>>> be shrinking less than porcelain.
>>> Any thoughts out there will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Antoinette Badenhorst
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *PorcelainByAntoinette <https://www.porcelainbyantoinette.com/#/>*
>>>
>>> *TeachinArt* <https://www.teachinart.com/antoinette-badenhorst.html>
>>>
>>> *International Academy of Ceramics*
>>> <https://www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst/>
>>>
>>> *Mississippi Arts Commission
>>> <https://arts.ms.gov/artist/antoinette-badenhorst/>*
>>>
>>> *MSClayworks <https://www.msclayworks.com/#/>*
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Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:00:55 -0400
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Found this via google. It won a Saidye Bronfman Award


Kanika Sircar
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2026 at 3:28?PM Terry Lazaroff via Clayart <
cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:

> I remember a Canadian Leopold Foulem ( disceased )he did a series using
> wire coated in porcelain clay. I tried to find some photos of the series,
> without success. He had teapot forms. Along with other forms. Try a
> search, you might be able to find this series.
> Terry
>
> > On Mar 28, 2026, at 12:25?PM, ronroy--- via Clayart <
> cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi Antoinette,
> >
> > Sounds like you want to fire clay on metal. I can't imagine the
> expansions would be close enough. Perhaps getting the metal powder coated
> would work.
> >
> >
> > RR
> >
> > Quoting Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart <
> cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>:
> >
> >> Thanks Terry. Yes I did the AI thing. Once one know how to use and
> >> manipulate AI, you?ll also know it just do your searches much faster
> than
> >> you can. You still have to check the facts.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I think the biggest issue will be to make the clay stick to the
> >> wire and then there is also the matter of metal bleeding through the
> clay,
> >> which will not that easily happen to stoneware. I guess it is just one
> of
> >> those things that needs to be tested and tried. But I was hoping some of
> >> our old timers have experience to share.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Antoinette Badenhorst
> >> www.porcelainbyantoinette.com<http://www.porcelainbyantoinette.com>
> >> www.teachinart.com<http://www.teachinart.com>
> >> MSClayworks.com
> >> arts.ms.gov/artist/antoinette-badenhorst
> >> www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst<http://www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 6:22?AM Terry Lazaroff via Clayart <
> >>> cla...@lists.clayartforum.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am going to give advice that some people may not like. I askied your
> >>> question in AI. Got some good advice especially using the wire as
> stamens
> >>> of the flow.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Clayart <clayart...@lists.clayartforum.com> on behalf of
> >>> Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2026 4:31 PM
> >>> To: clayart <cla...@lists.clayartforum.com>
> >>> Cc: Antoinette Badenhorst <porcelainb...@gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: [Clayart] Nichrome/ kenthral wire
> >>>
> >>> Hi guys. Does anyone have any experience with coloring nichrome or
> central
> >>> wire in the fire? I am planning a project where I need "pollen
> threads" for
> >>> flowers. This is an architectural installation project, so I am trying
> to
> >>> use the most durable material I can.
> >>> My research online corresponds with my knowledge that these materials
> peels
> >>> off (shiver the kiln). I was wondering if I would coat it with a layer
> of
> >>> slip and color with stain, or maybe better, an engobe, how well it may
> >>> stick. I was also thinking of making it from paperclay, so that there
> may
> >>> be more room for shrinking. As I am writing this I thought since it
> does
> >>> not have to be translucent, I should consider stoneware clay, since it
> may
> >>> be shrinking less than porcelain.
> >>> Any thoughts out there will be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> Antoinette Badenhorst
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *PorcelainByAntoinette <https://www.porcelainbyantoinette.com/#/>*
> >>>
> >>> *TeachinArt* <https://www.teachinart.com/antoinette-badenhorst.html>
> >>>
> >>> *International Academy of Ceramics*
> >>> <https://www.aic-iac.org/en/member/antoinette-badenhorst/>
> >>>
> >>> *Mississippi Arts Commission
> >>> <https://arts.ms.gov/artist/antoinette-badenhorst/>*
> >>>
> >>> *MSClayworks <https://www.msclayworks.com/#/>*
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[Antoinette Badenhorst via Clayart]

I’ve considered that. Will rethink the idea. Thanks.

Best wishes,
Antoinette Badenhorst
www.porcelainbyantoinette.com

www.teachinart.com
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